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      • Gość: Marek Re: audi to... IP: *.atlanta.ga.us 26.12.02, 18:28
        Gość portalu: marek75 napisał(a):
        > calkiem dobra niemiecka maszyna

        Oj, tu juz weszlismy na sliski temat... O jakosci Audi w
        ostatnim czasie slyszalem wiele zlego, o ile pamietam A6
        zostalo wybrane na najbardziej zawodny samochod
        luksusowy. Do tego Audi TT mialo zwyczaj odlatywania przy
        wiekszych predkosciach.

    • Gość: jr Re: audi to... IP: *.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 26.12.02, 20:10
      August Horch (1868 - 1951) founded A Horch & Cie in Germany on 14 November,
      1899. They started in Cologne, before moving to Saxony and then Zwickau. Their
      first car (with an engine that gave less than 5hp1) was produced in 1901, and
      shares in the company were issued in 1902. However by 1909, Horch was at odds
      with the shareholders, and by 1910 he left and (after losing the legal rights
      to his company name) set up Audiwerk as a separate company. Horch is German
      for 'hark', so he chose the Latin word Audi, which has a similar meaning.

      Horch (the company) meanwhile was taken over by Dr Moritz Strauss, who signed
      Paul Daimler as a designer, and set about making their eight-cylinder engines
      synonymous with reliability and luxury.

      In 1911, Herr Horch won the International Alpine Run in an Audi. This was a
      highly prestigious racing event. A full Audi team was entered in 1912, 1913 and
      1914 and won on every occasion. In 1921, Audi produced the first German left-
      hand drive production car, and in 1923 they introduced four-wheel hydraulic
      braking. Horst himself designed their torpedo-like bodywork, which increased
      top speeds markedly.

      JS Rasmussen - who also owned DKW cars3 - acquired a majority holding of the
      Audi company in August 1928, and began producing DKW cars in their plant.
      Effectively, DKW had taken over Audi. Rasmussen decreed that Audi's design
      ethos should change to concentrate on small, light cars and that their first
      design should be ready in six weeks; remarkably, it was. This design introduced
      front-wheel drive in 1931 - it would be the 1970s before this became standard
      in other marques - and was one of the most successful German cars of the
      period, selling 250,000 units.

      This left DKW free to concentrate on motorbikes, becoming the leading global
      brand by 1928.

      Elsewhere in the German automobile world, Wanderer sold its motorbikes arm to
      NSU4 in 1929 (in order to concentrate on its faltering car business) and signed
      Ferdinand Porsche's design consultancy. NSU only re-enter this story much
      later, but Porsche and Wanderer would soon become very important to Audi.

      The Depression hit Germany particularly hard, and many firms found themselves
      struggling. In 1932, Audi, Horch, Wanderer and DKW combined to form the Auto
      Union (AU). They adopted four rings as their logo, one for each of the founder
      companies. All four companies were based in Saxony, and together they could
      cover the whole motor-vehicle market from motorbikes to luxury cars. Audi
      concentrated on the sports side, Horch on producing luxury vehicles, Wanderer
      (whose auto division had been bought in a hostile take over) on small to medium
      cars, and DKW on small cars. DKW was the main brand, producing around 80% of
      the conglomerate's cars, and only narrowly being beaten by VW (Volkswagen) to
      producing Hitler's 'people's car'.

      From 1940 onwards, the company switched exclusively to the production of
      military vehicles. Auto Union, along with many other German industrial
      companies, took advantage of the German government's policy of using prisoners
      as slave labour. These slave labourers were worked to death. On 17 August,
      1948, with its assets (including the hidden cars and its factories) seized
      without compensation and dismantled by the Soviet occupying authorities as war
      reparations, Auto Union AG was deleted from the commercial register. AKW and
      Audi later had their works managers executed by the Russians.

      Barely a year later, on 3 September, 1949, Auto Union GmbH was established by
      former directors of the old company, using aid from the Bavarian government and
      the Marshall Plan. The Audi and DKW brands were retained, but Horch and
      Wanderer fell by the wayside. The new company was based in Ingolstadt (in West
      Germany). Going back to the DKW designs, production of vans and motorbikes
      recommenced. By 1950, and for the next 11 years, AU was outsourcing road-car
      production to Rhein-metall-Borsig AG in Dusseldorf. The DKW Meisterklasse F89P
      was their first post-war passenger car.

      At the instigation of leading entrepreneur Friedrich Karl Flick, Daimler-Benz
      AG acquired the majority of shares in Auto Union GmbH on 24 April, 1958. They
      subsequently purchased the remaining shares. From this date until the end of
      1965, Auto Union was a subsidiary of the Stuttgart-based Daimler Group.

      Once again at the instigation of leading industrialist Friedrich Karl Flick,
      Volkswagenwerk AG acquired the majority of shares (50.3%) in Auto Union GmbH in
      December 1964. The DKW F9 had been one of VWs biggest post-war competitors. The
      Ingolstadt-based company became a fully owned VW subsidiary from the end of
      1966. It was only at this point that their dogged insistence on clunky old 2-
      stroke engine technology (a hangover from the DKW motorbike days) was
      abandoned, on the insistence of VW, in favour of a more efficient design.

      In 1965, a car was released under the Audi name, using an engine developed
      under Daimler. In 1968, the Audi 100 was launched. This car, and subsequent
      developments of it, became a major success and was largely responsible for the
      survival of the Audi name. Up until this point, spare capacity at the Audi
      plant had been taken up by the production of VW Beetles; now, Audi were working
      flat out just to keep up with demand for their own-brand product. The DKW name
      was slowly dropped.

      In March 1969, NSU Motorenwerke AG (remember them?), which had just been taken
      over by VW, and the Ingolstadt-based Auto Union GmbH merged to form Audi NSU
      Auto Union AG, which had its head office in Neckarsulm. This remained a
      subsidiary of VW, but the Audi name was being used as part of the company title
      for the first time since 1932, 37 years previously. NSU had built the lowest-
      ever-drag motorbike (capable of 400km/hour on a 100cc engine) and was once the
      world's largest motorbike manufacturer. They had also developed the rotary
      piston engine in 1959.

      In 1971, the first advert to feature the slogan 'Vorsprung durch Technik' -
      'The Technological Edge' - appeared. This was to advertise the 1972 Audi 80,
      which became Audi's biggest hit to date. Its engine was adopted wholesale by
      the VW group. By now, five-cylinder engines had been developed for use across
      the Audi range, offering a compromise between efficiency and power.

      1974 saw the release of the Audi 50, a return to the small-car market and
      progenitor of the lower-spec VW Polo.

      In 1980 the Audi Quattro was launched. This was the first four-wheel drive (4-
      WD) system for use in a high-performance car; previously, 4-WD had been used in
      commercial vehicles and off-roaders only. In 1981, the Quattro won three times.
      In 1982 it took the Constructors title and second place in the Drivers. Hannu
      Mikkola reversed that in 1983 by taking the Drivers title in a Quattro but
      being runner-up in the Constructors championship.

      In 1984, the Audi Quattro and Stig Blomqvist won World Rally Constructors and
      Drivers Championships.

      With effect from 1 January, 1985, Audi NSU Auto Union AG was renamed AUDI AG.
      At the same time the company moved its head office from Neckarsulm to
      Ingolstadt. It remained part of the VW-Audi Group, but the Auto Union name
      disappeared forever.
      • Gość: lesio Re: audi to... IP: *.luminet.pl / 10.0.0.* 27.12.02, 15:02
        Gość portalu: jr napisał(a):

        ) August Horch (1868 - 1951) founded A Horch & Cie in Germany on 14 November,
        ) 1899. They started in Cologne, before moving to Saxony and then Zwickau.
        Their
        ) first car (with an engine that gave less than 5hp1) was produced in 1901,
        and
        ) shares in the company were issued in 1902. However by 1909, Horch was at
        odds
        ) with the shareholders, and by 1910 he left and (after losing the legal
        rights
        ) to his company name) set up Audiwerk as a separate company. Horch is German
        ) for 'hark', so he chose the Latin word Audi, which has a similar meaning.
        )
        ) Horch (the company) meanwhile was taken over by Dr Moritz Strauss, who
        signed
        ) Paul Daimler as a designer, and set about making their eight-cylinder
        engines
        ) synonymous with reliability and luxury.
        )
        ) In 1911, Herr Horch won the International Alpine Run in an Audi. This was a
        ) highly prestigious racing event. A full Audi team was entered in 1912, 1913
        and
        )
        ) 1914 and won on every occasion. In 1921, Audi produced the first German left-
        ) hand drive production car, and in 1923 they introduced four-wheel hydraulic
        ) braking. Horst himself designed their torpedo-like bodywork, which increased
        ) top speeds markedly.
        )
        ) JS Rasmussen - who also owned DKW cars3 - acquired a majority holding of the
        ) Audi company in August 1928, and began producing DKW cars in their plant.
        ) Effectively, DKW had taken over Audi. Rasmussen decreed that Audi's design
        ) ethos should change to concentrate on small, light cars and that their first
        ) design should be ready in six weeks; remarkably, it was. This design
        introduced
        )
        ) front-wheel drive in 1931 - it would be the 1970s before this became
        standard
        ) in other marques - and was one of the most successful German cars of the
        ) period, selling 250,000 units.
        )
        ) This left DKW free to concentrate on motorbikes, becoming the leading global
        ) brand by 1928.
        )
        ) Elsewhere in the German automobile world, Wanderer sold its motorbikes arm
        to
        ) NSU4 in 1929 (in order to concentrate on its faltering car business) and
        signed
        )
        ) Ferdinand Porsche's design consultancy. NSU only re-enter this story much
        ) later, but Porsche and Wanderer would soon become very important to Audi.
        )
        ) The Depression hit Germany particularly hard, and many firms found
        themselves
        ) struggling. In 1932, Audi, Horch, Wanderer and DKW combined to form the Auto
        ) Union (AU). They adopted four rings as their logo, one for each of the
        founder
        ) companies. All four companies were based in Saxony, and together they could
        ) cover the whole motor-vehicle market from motorbikes to luxury cars. Audi
        ) concentrated on the sports side, Horch on producing luxury vehicles,
        Wanderer
        ) (whose auto division had been bought in a hostile take over) on small to
        medium
        )
        ) cars, and DKW on small cars. DKW was the main brand, producing around 80% of
        ) the conglomerate's cars, and only narrowly being beaten by VW (Volkswagen)
        to
        ) producing Hitler's 'people's car'.
        )
        ) From 1940 onwards, the company switched exclusively to the production of
        ) military vehicles. Auto Union, along with many other German industrial
        ) companies, took advantage of the German government's policy of using
        prisoners
        ) as slave labour. These slave labourers were worked to death. On 17 August,
        ) 1948, with its assets (including the hidden cars and its factories) seized
        ) without compensation and dismantled by the Soviet occupying authorities as
        war
        ) reparations, Auto Union AG was deleted from the commercial register. AKW and
        ) Audi later had their works managers executed by the Russians.
        )
        ) Barely a year later, on 3 September, 1949, Auto Union GmbH was established
        by
        ) former directors of the old company, using aid from the Bavarian government
        and
        )
        ) the Marshall Plan. The Audi and DKW brands were retained, but Horch and
        ) Wanderer fell by the wayside. The new company was based in Ingolstadt (in
        West
        ) Germany). Going back to the DKW designs, production of vans and motorbikes
        ) recommenced. By 1950, and for the next 11 years, AU was outsourcing road-car
        ) production to Rhein-metall-Borsig AG in Dusseldorf. The DKW Meisterklasse
        F89P
        ) was their first post-war passenger car.
        )
        ) At the instigation of leading entrepreneur Friedrich Karl Flick, Daimler-
        Benz
        ) AG acquired the majority of shares in Auto Union GmbH on 24 April, 1958.
        They
        ) subsequently purchased the remaining shares. From this date until the end of
        ) 1965, Auto Union was a subsidiary of the Stuttgart-based Daimler Group.
        )
        ) Once again at the instigation of leading industrialist Friedrich Karl Flick,
        ) Volkswagenwerk AG acquired the majority of shares (50.3%) in Auto Union GmbH
        in
        )
        ) December 1964. The DKW F9 had been one of VWs biggest post-war competitors.
        The
        )
        ) Ingolstadt-based company became a fully owned VW subsidiary from the end of
        ) 1966. It was only at this point that their dogged insistence on clunky old 2-
        ) stroke engine technology (a hangover from the DKW motorbike days) was
        ) abandoned, on the insistence of VW, in favour of a more efficient design.
        )
        ) In 1965, a car was released under the Audi name, using an engine developed
        ) under Daimler. In 1968, the Audi 100 was launched. This car, and subsequent
        ) developments of it, became a major success and was largely responsible for
        the
        ) survival of the Audi name. Up until this point, spare capacity at the Audi
        ) plant had been taken up by the production of VW Beetles; now, Audi were
        working
        )
        ) flat out just to keep up with demand for their own-brand product. The DKW
        name
        ) was slowly dropped.
        )
        ) In March 1969, NSU Motorenwerke AG (remember them?), which had just been
        taken
        ) over by VW, and the Ingolstadt-based Auto Union GmbH merged to form Audi NSU
        ) Auto Union AG, which had its head office in Neckarsulm. This remained a
        ) subsidiary of VW, but the Audi name was being used as part of the company
        title
        )
        ) for the first time since 1932, 37 years previously. NSU had built the lowest-
        ) ever-drag motorbike (capable of 400km/hour on a 100cc engine) and was once
        the
        ) world's largest motorbike manufacturer. They had also developed the rotary
        ) piston engine in 1959.
        )
        ) In 1971, the first advert to feature the slogan 'Vorsprung durch Technik' -
        ) 'The Technological Edge' - appeared. This was to advertise the 1972 Audi
        80,
        ) which became Audi's biggest hit to date. Its engine was adopted wholesale by
        ) the VW group. By now, five-cylinder engines had been developed for use
        across
        ) the Audi range, offering a compromise between efficiency and power.
        )
        ) 1974 saw the release of the Audi 50, a return to the small-car market and
        ) progenitor of the lower-spec VW Polo.
        )
        ) In 1980 the Audi Quattro was launched. This was the first four-wheel drive
        (4-
        ) WD) system for use in a high-performance car; previously, 4-WD had been used
        in
        )
        ) commercial vehicles and off-roaders only. In 1981, the Quattro won three
        times.
        )
        ) In 1982 it took the Constructors title and second place in the Drivers.
        Hannu
        ) Mikkola reversed that in 1983 by taking the Drivers title in a Quattro but
        ) being runner-up in the Constructors championship.
        )
        ) In 1984, the Audi Quattro and Stig Blomqvist won World Rally Constructors
        and
        ) Drivers Championships.
        )
        ) With effect from 1 January, 1985, Audi NSU Auto Union AG was renamed AUDI
        AG.
        ) At the same time the company moved its head office from Neckarsulm to
        ) Ingolstadt. It remained part of the VW-Audi Group, but the Auto Union name
        ) disappeared forever.


        Co u diabła chcesz jr przez to powiedzieć?
    • Gość: Janek Re: audi to... IP: *.dip.t-dialin.net 26.12.02, 22:46
      Dla Audi fanow.
      1.Planowane inwestycje w latach 2002-2007 11,4 mld.euro (80 % w RFN)
      2.Siostra Lamborgini sprzedala w tym roku juz 430 samochodow.
      3.Udzial Audi A8 w grupie sam.S-Klasse wzrosnie w RFN z 16 na 21 % a MB spadnie z 53 % do 37%.
      4.Samochody,ktore by najchetniej Niemcy mieli,to wprawdzie dalej MB - 18%,VW - 15%,ale potem BMW,AUDI,Opel i Porsche.( mimo ze wszyscy wiedza,ze japonce najbardziej niezawodne)
      4.Rekordowy rok 2001 ze sprzedanymi 725.000 samochodami
      i zyskiem 1,322mld.euro ma zostac w 2002 przekroczony.
      5.Udzial Audi w ogolnej sprzedazy sam.w RFN jest w 2002
      najwyzszy od 20 lat i wynosi 7,4 %.
      6.W czasie styczen-pazdziernik Audi sprzedalo w USA 63 658 sam.tyle samo co w rekordowym 2001 roku a
      w listopadzie sprzedaz wzrosla o ponad 14 %.
      AUDI - nieduza firma,a daje sobie swietnie rady na dzisiejszym trudnym rynku samochodowym.
    • greenblack Re: Audi to... 27.12.02, 11:39
      + quattro(Torsen w większości modeli)
      + wnętrza o bardzo wysokiej jakości
      + nieliczne na rynku w pełni aluminiowe samochody - A2 i A8
      + FSI technika z przyszłością, ale nie tak świetlaną, jak zakładano
      + Tiptronic i przede wszystkim Multitronic - automaty szybsze niż ręczne
      + DSG - prawdziwa rewolucja w skrzyniach biegów - chyba przyszłość
      - TDI - technika bez przyszłości
      - pseudoquattro dla ubogich(Haldex w A3, TT)
      - A3 i przede wszystkim A2 - rozmienianie się na drobne i kłopoty z jakością
      tych modeli
      - W12 - wymysł Piecha - dwa "posklejane" VR6 z Golfa+wałki wyrównoważające
      mające w założeniu stanowić konkurencję dla klasycznych V12
      - deprecjonowanie marki przez Volkswagena - konkurencja ze strony Phaetona
      (można jeszcze ścierpieć) i zabranie Audi SUVa - Volkswagen Touareg - paradoks
      dziejów w firmie, która wynalazła quattro.

      Pozdrawiam
      • dreaded88 Nie biadaj tak - będzie i SUV 28.12.02, 16:52
        greenblack napisał:


        > - deprecjonowanie marki przez Volkswagena - konkurencja ze strony Phaetona
        > (można jeszcze ścierpieć) i zabranie Audi SUVa - Volkswagen Touareg -
        paradoks
        > dziejów w firmie, która wynalazła quattro.

        Zdaje się że pod nazwą Magellan, koło 2005, brat bliźniak Touarega.

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