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14.11.05, 11:28
uk.news.yahoo.com/14112005/140/chavs-force-tourists-exotic.html
Holidaymakers are seeking ever-more exotic locations to avoid "chavellers", a
World Travel Market report has revealed.Chavs, typically seen as working
class and jewellery-loving, are frightening off the middle-class traveller,
the report found.Julian Rolfe, of research company Synovate, said: "The
prospect of going somewhere the chavs favour is too awful to contemplate for
the middle classes."

"For the middle classes, going somewhere like Chile, Libya or Mozambique has
real bragging appeal and sets them apart from the crowd.

"You could say the more affluent are seeking a road less chavelled."

The report also found that low-cost airlines were dictating how European
countries performed as tourist destinations.

Low-fare flights now make up 40% of the total UK air journey market to Europe.

Estonia has reported British visitor numbers were up 77% on last year after
EasyJet started weekly trips to its capital city Tallinn.

Similar booms were seen in Poland, Slovakia, Lithuania and Slovenia.

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To be honest I haven't seen an invasion of Chavs in Warsawsmile Maybe you guys
have a different opinion? Do you think Central Europe is their next
destination after Ibiza and Mallorca? Is the british yob culture about to
descend upon us?smile))

A little bit about 'Chavs' :
www.chavscum.co.uk/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
I think the closest thing in Poland you get to a 'Chav' is a 'dresiarz' (?)



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  • usenetposts 14.11.05, 12:19
    I have seen a surprising amount of their beige pseudo-tartan coming into
    fashion among Poles, who don't realise how dreadful it is.

    I have noticed quite a few lower class British tourists about, but earlier in
    the year. There is less tourism going on here.

    Warsaw could be a reasonable destination for the less culturally aspiring
    traveller, since the lazy musicians and dancers close all the main theatres
    over the main tourist period, museums have too many closed days and too short
    opening hours, and there are too few of them, and there is almost no original
    architecture. For those who just want to go clubbing and drinking and eating
    and not spend too much, and who don't mind being sent home to bed at ten
    o'clock, this could be the ideal resort.

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  • waldek1610 14.11.05, 12:46
    but you agree that bigos is still better than eggs with beens- usual breakfast
    fare in UK....?

    Plus I heard those poor english ladies crying quite loudly about "competition"
    flying into Britain in a form of the high-chic bone, round faced cute slav
    ladies from Poland....Why are you in Poland anyways?
  • nasza_maggie 14.11.05, 20:11
    usenetposts napisał:

    > I have seen a surprising amount of their beige pseudo-tartan coming into
    > fashion among Poles, who don't realise how dreadful it is.
    You mean Burberry's? Iv'e seen a few billboards around town myselfsmile

    >
    > I have noticed quite a few lower class British tourists about, but earlier in
    > the year. There is less tourism going on here.

    Mmmmm, I've seen quite a few old people on their Wallace Arnold holidays, don't
    know about the 'lower class' part though...
    >
    > Warsaw could be a reasonable destination for the less culturally aspiring
    > traveller, since the lazy musicians and dancers close all the main theatres
    > over the main tourist period, museums have too many closed days and too short
    > opening hours, and there are too few of them, and there is almost no original
    > architecture. For those who just want to go clubbing and drinking and eating
    > and not spend too much, and who don't mind being sent home to bed at ten
    > o'clock, this could be the ideal resort.

    You think it is that bad? I guess it is a little surprising that
    theatres/actors etc. have a long summer holiday break, like teachers. Part of
    the socialist dogma.
    But most of Poland is closed during summer?smile

    Original architecture? Well, okay so the commies pulled most of it down - what
    there was left of Warsaw, but I think socialist architecture fo MDM and PKiN is
    quite interesing to tourists. Although a shame that Poles do not look after it,
    like the Germans. On Karl Marx Alle in Berlin, most of the buildings are under
    protection.

    Maybe it is Krakow that is more interesting for tourists. I agree that Warsaw
    seems to have no tourist agenda. Other cities are better at advertising
    themselves. Maybe Warsaw has lost it's character because of the post war influx
    of outsiders, as well as lack of style in architecture.
    It's a shame. I think that if Warsaw and Varsovians weren't so baldy done by
    during the war, we may have had a chance to still be the Paris of this part of
    Europe, as Warsaw was once called smile

    www.stalus.iq.pl/
    www.starawarszawa.pl/

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  • ianek70 15.11.05, 14:44
    nasza_maggie napisała:

    > usenetposts napisał:
    >
    > > I have seen a surprising amount of their beige pseudo-tartan coming into
    > > fashion among Poles, who don't realise how dreadful it is.
    > You mean Burberry's? Iv'e seen a few billboards around town myselfsmile

    I've tried to explain to Poles that Burberry's just moving into the East
    European market because nobody in Britain takes it seriously any more.
    Maybe in 2 years Poland'll look like this:

    www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/belters/burbned.jpg
    www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/pictures/burbMobile.jpg
    www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/belters/burberryboy.jpg
    There's more crap burberry to be found on www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk but
    it was making me homesick...
  • waldek1610 14.11.05, 12:39
    Then stay home and leave that necklace in your drawer, this way you will lower
    the risk of scaring poor....rich folks who just want to enjoy golden cost of
    Tunisia without seeing your artificial smile and fake golden teeth.

    But seriously you lost me here, at first as I started reading this article I
    was willing to simpathise with you, but then you imply that those "chavellers"
    are actually folks from the west.... No wonder, you the "new-richie" consider
    yourself a superior, sensing from your unreleanting strain of selv-compliments
    and your obnoxcious deceited attitiude of yours.
  • waldek1610 14.11.05, 13:06
    I meant to say "conceited" attitude of yours...
  • bartis_ervin 14.11.05, 19:41

    This is getting too much. Take a rest or get a life! Maybe this will stop you
    polluting.

    Ervin

    thebartiski.blogspot.com
  • russh 14.11.05, 21:24
    Hey Waldek, get a hang of yourself!

    If you want to do no more than put people down, then go somewhere else. You're
    getting very irritating to say the least.

    First the ignorant tirade against Maggie (your thread) which had no basis
    whatsoever, and now this.

    I'd suggest that you get yourself a girlfriend, and do what most people do
    together. If you can't, then there is a DIY alternative.

    I think you are already there though!

    Now that's a polite way of telling someone they are a ******.
  • waldek1610 17.11.05, 07:01
    Maggie, please stop spamming. Do you seriously think people need someone to
    tell them which articles they should read on the net? Why don't you find some
    usefull reading for yourself instead; for exapmle on the subject of
    humility...you desperately need some.
  • ianek70 18.11.05, 11:05
    nasza_maggie napisała:

    > I think the closest thing in Poland you get to a 'Chav' is a 'dresiarz' (?)

    The Scottish equivalent "ned" is more general. "Ned Culture" in newspaper
    headlines corresponds to "Yob Culture" in the English papers. "Ya wee ned"
    = "ty mały gówniarzu".
    www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/tv/chewinthefat/neds/index.shtml
    smile
  • ianek70 18.11.05, 11:19
    I put some Polish politicians names into the ned name generator on the Chewin
    the Fat site.
    Roman Giertych is Sad Case, which everyone already knows, Lech Kaczyński gets
    the ironic tag Big Man, and Andrzej Lepper, worryingly, is Stoater.
    A stoater is something great (a brilliant joke or goal) or, when used of a
    person, beautiful.
    Hmmm...
  • ianek70 19.11.05, 18:49
    nasza_maggie napisała:

    > Ian, are you from Scotland then? smile
    > I was there this year and loved itsmile)

    Where were you?
    I'm from here:
    www.paisley.org.uk
  • nasza_maggie 21.11.05, 01:09
    Why in Edinburgh ofcoursesmile))
    AND we had great weathersmile)))))))))))

    I'd love some IRN BRUsmile)))) Eh....
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  • usenetposts 22.11.05, 12:06
    nasza_maggie napisała:

    > seriously?!
    > when!?!

    There are 80 shops in Warsaw stocking the product right now. Barrs, the
    producer of Irn Bru, has done a deal with Optimum Distribution. This is not a
    fully publicized fact, but I just got off the phone with Joe Flynn, who is in
    charge of bringing this product to this country, and who also is responsible
    for the tremendous success of the product in Russia, and he said it was alright
    to let this Group know the good news.

    If you want to know which of the Warsaw stores are carrying Irn Bru already,
    the people to ask would be Optimum. I will follow this up if I get time.

    This is a trial ball right now, the full launch is not expected until next
    year, and they will then have a country wide launch with appropriate
    advertising. As you know the correct time to launch a CSD is at the opening of
    the season, which is around April, so my expectation would be that they will do
    it then.

    I'm very excited about seeing this product coming over to this country. It is
    actually Scotland's Number One Grocery Product, not only the number one
    Carbonated Soft Drink in that country.

    I hope it strengthens the already very strong cultural links between Poland and
    Scotland even more.

    >
    > I didn't knowsmile To me, it's just fantastic with chipssmile

    It certainly is. And it goes down a treat with deep-fried Mars bars too.

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  • nasza_maggie 22.11.05, 12:16
    well, that's made my day!
    hope i can make it to the launch party wink
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  • ianek70 22.11.05, 14:08
    nasza_maggie napisała:

    > Why in Edinburgh ofcoursesmile))

    Edinburgh's cool, shame the people there are weird sad

    > I'd love some IRN BRUsmile)))) Eh....

    I always stock up on Carmel Logs when I'm across there smile
  • ianek70 23.11.05, 14:16
    nasza_maggie napisała:

    > weird in what sense?smile)

    They tend to be really suspicious of anybody from the west coast.
    They're nice to tourists from whatever corner of the globe, they're as tolerant
    of immigrants as in other Scottish cities, but a lot of them seem to
    automatically assume that anyone from the Glasgow area is going to punch them
    and steal their scones.
    I hate asking for directions in Edinburgh.

    This is a spoof Glasgow version of Windows, but written by somebody from
    Edinburgh:
    www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/belters/windies.doc
    You see what I mean?

    And a spoof of the H-Grade maths exam, with the three main regional stereotypes:
    www.glasgowsurvival.co.uk/belters/MathsPaper.doc
  • nasza_maggie 23.11.05, 15:56
    stereotypes, eh?
    What would culture be without them?smile

    I see what you mean. That happens all the time though, no?
    North - South.
    East - West.

    Is there a great difference between the accent in Edinburgh and Glasgow?

    The only accent I ever had to really think about when in conversation, was
    Gerodiesmile)) Others never caused me any trouble.
    I love reading in dialect. Especially creolesmile
    And reading Trainspotting was fantastic toosmile

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  • ianek70 23.11.05, 16:15
    nasza_maggie napisała:

    > Is there a great difference between the accent in Edinburgh and Glasgow?

    The dialect's quite similar, but the accent's completely different.

    > I love reading in dialect.

    There's a funny sketch in Dundonian on
    www.theweehowff.com/downloads.htm
    "Taysiders in Space" smile
  • ianek70 25.11.05, 09:47
    nasza_maggie napisała:

    > the links brukenuncertain

    No it's not, I just wrote it wrong:

    www.weehowff.com/downloads.htm
  • russh 25.11.05, 10:44
    Wonderful!

    I even understood a few words. Do you give lessons?
  • nasza_maggie 27.11.05, 23:41
    bugger...

    "Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
    The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner
    reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later. "
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