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Amerykanie nie powiini odwiedzac Europy ?

IP: *.nyc.biz.rr.com 20.07.07, 18:33
Co to za wakacje, jak trzeba liczyc kazdy grosz :))

Americans Still Flock to Europe as Dollar Drops The New York Times
HEIDELBERG, Germany — A day after Michael Kingsley arrived in this romantic
university town, he was in no mood to savor the cobblestone streets, the half-
timbered houses, or the flower-bedecked windows — to say nothing of the
camera-ready castle on the hill.

Mr. Kingsley had left his camera battery and charger in a hotel room in
London, and he knew that as an American tourist, buying replacements here was
going to sting. The damage: $143. Back home in Falls Church, Va., he said,
the same purchase would have set him back no more than $100.

For Americans visiting Europe this summer, the steep decline of the dollar
against the euro and the British pound has made eye-popping prices a
lamentable part of the traveler’s tale. (The Kingsley family’s hotel room in
London was $500 a night; five bite-sized chocolates at Harrods cost $10.)

“It’s O.K.,” said Mr. Kingsley, 59, with a resigned laugh. “I’ll just have to
work a few extra years to pay off this vacation.” His wife, Laura, did her
best to soothe him. “It’s just play money,” she said.

By now, five summers after the dollar began its long swoon against the euro
and the pound, American travelers are used to $5 cups of coffee and triple-
digit dinner checks in Europe’s great capitals. But the dollar’s latest
plunge — to record lows of 72 cents to the euro and 49 pence to the pound —
has turned mere sticker shock into a form of disbelief for many tourists.

For Kaelon Kroft, a custodian from San Bernardino, Calif., it was the cost of
Coke that shocked him most in Paris. “We just paid 9.50 euros for a can of
Coke at a cafe,” he said. “At our hotel, the bar was serving a glass of Coke
for four euros.”

“That’s over five bucks,” his wife Kristi added. Actually, at the current
exchange rate, it is a fizzy bubble or two over $5.50.

The Krofts and the Kingsleys both scaled back their European holidays to
limit the pain of the currency pinch. But neither family seriously thought of
canceling their vacation, and their glass-is-half-full determination to make
the best of things was echoed in interviews with American tourists from
Ireland to Italy.

It is also reflected in the tourism statistics in France, Germany, Spain and
other countries, which show that the number of Americans visiting Europe has
increased this year, even as the value of the dollar has eroded. Travel
experts say this speaks both to the resilience and rising affluence of
American tourists, as well as to the perennial appeal of Europe as a
destination.

“Americans who visit Europe tend to be more educated, with higher incomes, so
they are less affected by the exchange rate,” said Joachim Scholz, a
researcher at the German National Tourist Board. “Even backpackers have more
money than they used to, if you look at the price of hostels.”

Americans purchased $3.8 billion worth of travel-related services from
European countries in the first quarter of this year, a 5.5 percent increase
from the same quarter last year, according to the Bureau of Economic
Analysis. They bought $22.8 billion of travel services in 2006, nearly 10
percent more than in 2002, when the dollar was close to parity with the euro.

That should be a relief to innkeepers and restaurateurs here, since many
currency experts say the dollar — pulled down by the combination of a
persistent trade deficit with the rest of the world, a slower American
economy and an unexpectedly vigorous Europe — has not reached bottom against
the euro.

Ashraf Laidi, chief currency strategist at CMC Markets in New York, described
the dollar’s decline as “pervasive.” He predicts that it will trade at 70
cents to the euro by the end of 2007. The outlook for Americans in Britain is
better: Mr. Laidi thinks the dollar is close to its nadir against the pound.

Across the Atlantic, the weaker dollar has encouraged a European travel boom
to the United States. And the currency changes are spurring a shift in trade,
with American exports to the rest of the world picking up even as European
officials are becoming louder in their complaints that the cheaper dollar is
undermining the global competitiveness of their manufacturers.

In the last 12 months, the dollar has declined 8.9 percent against the euro
and 9.9 percent against the pound. But the erosion has been most dramatic
over the last few weeks, after many Americans had already booked their
European trips. Most appear to have held on to their bookings.

“A lot of Americans purchase their packages in the U.S., and pay in dollars,
so they don’t even notice,” said Thierry Baudier, the chief executive of
Maison de la France, the French tourism board. “Once they arrive, it’s too
late.”

Mark Trotter, a high school teacher from Fresno, Calif., taking 27 students
on a tour of Madrid and Barcelona, said he watched with alarm as the dollar
sank in the last two weeks. But nobody pulled out of the trip, which he leads
each summer, and he said this was his largest group ever.

“I remember doing this trip for $2,100 as recently as 2003,” Mr. Trotter
said, standing beneath the stone columns in Madrid’s main square. “This year
it cost $2,800. But in all honesty, parents don’t even blink.”

To be sure, tourists are making some adjustments to their itineraries or
their spending habits. Paris has increasingly become a weekend destination
for American tourists, Mr. Baudier said, reflecting a trend toward shorter
European vacations.

In Ireland, a group of students from Virginia opted to skip a visit to the
Waterford crystal factory, 100 miles south of Dublin. They are also cutting
back on casual purchases like snacks or coffee.

“I have to be much more aware of looking at the price of everything,” said
Erin Rogers, 21, still marveling at a $22 plate of Irish stew she ordered the
previous evening. “I didn’t have a clear compass of just how weak the dollar
was. It was a crash course in global economics.”

The Krofts decided not to extend their stay in Paris, as they had hoped,
because of the cost. Next year, Kristi Kroft said, their family of four would
probably go to Hawaii or the Virgin Islands, where a dollar is worth 100
cents.

Mr. Kingsley, a strategic planner with the Army Corps of Engineers, had
plotted a grand tour of Europe that would have taken him, his wife, and their
33-year-old son, Josh, to London, Paris, Rome and Vienna, before ending up in
Germany, to attend the wedding of a family friend.

As the dollar wilted in recent weeks, Mr. Kingsley crossed off one city after
another, eventually leaving only London and Germany. “I would have loved to
go to Vienna,” Mrs. Kingsley said sadly.

The currency squeeze is toughest on Americans who live in Europe and are paid
in dollars. They suffer from erosion in their real income that, in many
cases, is not fully compensated by their employers.

Jennifer Aquino, who lives in Madrid and manages international alumni
relations for Bentley College in Waltham, Mass., said she felt the pinch
shopping for groceries, paying her rent, or going out to dinner.

“It’s scary,” Ms. Aquino said. “It makes you think twice about if you want to
keep building a life in Europe.”

Maddine Insalaco, who runs a landscape-painting workshop in Tuscany with her
husband, Joe Vinson, said business had been crippled because their costs were
in euros while their revenue was in dollars. &#
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  • Gość: Kadi-lak IP: *.nyc.biz.rr.com 20.07.07, 18:38
    “It’s a mom and pop operation,” she said. “We’re too small to hedge our risks
    in terms of foreign exchange.”

    Worse, most of their clients are American, and as the euro has spiked,
    enrollment has dwindled. The dollar has lost about half its value since they
    first started teaching more than a decade ago, but “we can’t increase our
    prices by 50 percent,” she said, because they would lose even more business.

    Still, Ms. Insalaco and other Americans are philosophical about the vagaries of
    currency markets. “When the dollar was strong, no one was complaining,” she
    said. “We cashed in then.”

    Among some, there is even a sense that turnabout is fair play. Linda Miller, a
    frequent visitor to Europe from Honolulu, was browsing the other day in the
    gift shop at the National Gallery of Ireland in Dublin.

    Recalling how she and her husband Stephen, an eye surgeon, had lived large on
    earlier trips to Europe, Ms. Miller said, “We have always thought that America
    got away with something.”

    Apparently not, sweetie :)))


  • wowo5 20.07.07, 22:54
    Amerykanie narzekaja, ze drogo ale przyjechalo ich wiecej niz kiedykolwiek i
    wydali wiecej pieniedzy. O czym to swiadczy? O tym, ze jak kogos bylo stac na
    taka podroz to jest dalej stac. Sam znam Amerykanow, ktorzy wybrali sie na
    wakacje do Europy.
    --
    The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at
    expense of everybody else. (Frederic Bastiat)
  • Gość: kadi-lak IP: *.nycmny.east.verizon.net 21.07.07, 00:53
    Glupi nie sa, widza tendencje i rozumieja, ze za rok taka wycieczka moze byc o
    kolejne 25% drozsza.
  • wowo5 21.07.07, 18:03
    Powinienes byc maklerem gieldowym. Nie ma wielu ludzi, ktorzy wiedza jaki w
    przyszlym roku bedzie kurs dolara w stosunku do euro.
    --
    The state is the great fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at
    expense of everybody else. (Frederic Bastiat)
  • Gość: LastBoyScout IP: 71.167.135.* 22.07.07, 03:09
    > Powinienes byc maklerem gieldowym. Nie ma wielu ludzi, ktorzy wiedza jaki w <
    > przyszlym roku bedzie kurs dolara w stosunku do euro.<

    KADZI-TAK posiada specyficzny rodzaj geniuszu przypisany jedynie bolszewikom
    (Lenin, Stalin, Bierut, Castro itp.)
    Wie (JAK ONI!) co sie stanie z Ameryka.
    Wie co sie stanie z Polska.
    Wie co sie stanie z dolarem chociaz nie ma zielonego pojecia jakie PODSTAWOWE
    czynniki wplywaja na jego wartosc! ;)

    forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=30&w=65956956&a=66005242
    KADZI-tak zapewnia nas, ze jak juz sie dorobi na swoim inwestycyjnym geniuszu
    to sila przyzwyczajenia pozostanie na Greenpoincie czy Rigdewood, z tym ze
    wtedy juz nie bedzie mieszkal w piwnicy a bedzie ta piwnice wynajmowal innym,
    jak kazdy PRAWDZIWY milioner ;)
    Tegi leb ten KADZI-tak !!!

    forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=30&w=59115582&a=61966499
  • Gość: kadi-lak IP: *.nycmny.east.verizon.net 22.07.07, 03:44
    w dol.
    Zawsze tak bylo. Czasowe skoko w gore? Hehe :)
    Wystarcza podtawy arytmetyki( 4 klasa szkoly podstawowej?) i oczy :))
  • Gość: LastBoyScout IP: 71.167.135.* 22.07.07, 04:05
    A dlaczego w dol?
    Jezeli w dol to zle czy dobrze i dlaczego ?
    Jezeli w gore to zle czy dobrze i dlaczego ?

    No KADZI-tak, geniuszu dosyc kadzenia, WYTLUMACZ wreszcie swoje odkrywcze tezy
    albo s.....j !
  • felusiak1 22.07.07, 05:29
    On juz wie wszystko. I wiecej mu nie trzeba.
    Dolar spada bo lezy na krzywym stole i co go podniosa to on spada.
    Stol jest sliski i wieje wiatr.... z klimatyzatora.
    --
    felusiakjeden
  • Gość: hubert100 IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 22.07.07, 08:42
    Zielona makulatura zniknie i ma byc Amero "podparte" ekonomia meksykanska
    wypracowana "twardymi" rekami.Bzdety wieja na dolara i dlatego obslizglo zpada.
  • Gość: LastBoyScout IP: 71.167.135.* 22.07.07, 12:32
    > Przestan ty zesz go okladac<

    No fakt, straszny lotr jestem dla stwierdzen niepopartych jakakolwiek
    argumentacja czy dowodem.

    Hmmm...myslisz, ze im za to placa czy oni tak orginalnie sobie i nam tlumacza
    dlaczego im tu nie wyszlo? ;)


    P.S. Swoja droga zadane przeze mnie pytania to naprawde watek to bardzo
    ciekawej dyskusji ....
  • Gość: kadi IP: *.nycmny.east.verizon.net 22.07.07, 15:55
    Ale jakich Ty bys dowodow chcial? Przeczytales zadana lekture? No to wypisz
    liczby- o ile % spadl dolar do przejmujacego pomlau rynek euro?
    Sprawdz dane historyczne, ot, wez chocby jena , siegnij po dane sprzed 30 lat.
    Ile jenow kupowal jeden dolar? Ile dzis?
    Do Polski zapewne nie jezdzisz, ten typ nie jezdzi. Ja jezdze.Piec lat temu za
    dolara dostawalem w kantorze 4.5 zlotegoprzy spot w granicach 4.5, dzis jak
    dostane 2.8 to sie upije z radosci. Aha, rok temu wymienialem duza ilosc , to
    utargowalem 3.10 za dolara. piekne czasy, szkoda ze juz nie wroca.Szczescie od
    Boga, ze niedlugo bede wymienial w druga strone :))
  • felusiak1 22.07.07, 20:32
    W 1977 za dolara można było kupić 265 yenów, 2.30 DM i 0.58 Brytyjskiego Funta.
    W 1987 za dolara można było kupić 265 yenów, 1.83 DM i 0.58 Brytyjskiego Funta.
    W 1997 za dolara można było kupić 115 yenów, 1.82 DM i 0.59 Brytyjskiego Funta.
    Wczoraj za dolara można było kupić 122 yeny, 1.41 DM i 0.49 Brytyjskiego Funta.

    Rzecz w tym, ze to nie ma nic do rzeczy i jest próznym biciem piany.
    W październiku 1995 dolar kupował tylko 2.40 zł.

    Bzdurzysz kadilak jak nakrecony. Widocznie masz takie hobby.
    --
    felusiakjeden
  • Gość: kadi IP: *.nycmny.east.verizon.net 22.07.07, 15:51
    No wiesz..Idiota w temacie nie jestes, natomiast troche boje sie o stan Twej
    ogolnego zdrowia psychicznego. Wyraznie masz reality check- dobrze wiedzac ze
    mam racje probujesz mi dowodzic ze jej nie mam i ze jest inaczej niez naprawde
    jest.Metody pokretne, czasowe utraty kontrloli nad nerwami. Na razie probuj
    lepiej spac ( walnij koniak przed snem) , duzo spacerow i plicz do 10 przed
    kazdym nowym postem.
  • hubert100 22.07.07, 16:01
    To nie reality check. Dwoch "Pancernych" zakadzialo w Kadzilandzie.Smrod idzie
    z tamtad jak z "chinskich jaj" i rozchodzi sie po swiecie ,ale
    przyjdzie "wiatr" co przewieje smrodziarza na zawsze!
  • Gość: LastBoyScout IP: 71.167.135.* 23.07.07, 01:31
    Zadalem PROSTE pytania na ktore ty NIE POTRAFISZ odpowiedziec:
    A DLACZEGO w dol?
    Jezeli w dol to ZLE czy DOBRZE i DLACZEGO ?
    Jezeli w gore to ZLE czy DOBRZE i DLACZEGO ?

    Nie mam zamiaru dyskutowac z wybiorczymi, lewackimi przypadkowo wynalezionych
    na necie. Zreszta Felusiak1 nokautuje cie w tym KONKRETAMI.

    Odpowiesz na pytania, zaczynamy dyskusje o wyscigu zadluzania, wyscigu
    dewaluacji wlasnej waluty, wyscigu zbrojen oraz zwyciezcach tych konkurencji...

    P.S.
    >Na razie probuj lepiej spac ( walnij koniak przed snem) , duzo spacerow i >

    Cale dnie spedzam na plazy grajac w siatkowke (zapraszam wszystkich chetnych:
    KochajmySie@excite.com), na lodce i w ogrodzie, mam znakomity seks i znakomite
    porto. Spie jak dziecko, czemu zyczyliby sobie wszyscy slustrowani, powracajacy
    bolszewicy ...
  • Gość: hubert100 IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 24.07.07, 07:24
    Co sie stalo z zona? Czy poszla na rog zarobic na benzyne? Jeszcze
    lepszy "szambonurek"! That guy is full of shit.
  • Gość: Kadi-lak IP: *.nyc.biz.rr.com 23.07.07, 15:25
    hehe, Ty mi bedziesz dyktowal, kiedy ja moge pisac a kiedy mam sp...ac:)

    Gość portalu: LastBoyScout napisał(a):

    > No KADZI-tak, geniuszu dosyc kadzenia, WYTLUMACZ wreszcie swoje odkrywcze
    tezy
    > albo s.....j !

    Zadziwiajace, jak wielu z tych co kiedys do "wolnosci i demokracji" zwiewali
    nadal prezentuje zakuty, komuszy styl myslenia. Czego oczywiscie sami wszystkim
    innym nie omieszkuja zarzucac przy kazdej okazji.
    Wbij sobie w leb- ja nie musze odpowiadac na twoje pytania ani z toba rozmwiac
    a pisac moge co chce, dopoki nie lamie Regulaminu foruma. W POLSCE jest dzis
    wolnosc slowa. A to polski portal.
    A teraz idz, donies na mnie w typowo amerykanskim stylu :) za telefon ( e-
    maila) i 911 :)
  • Gość: hubert100 IP: *.bchsia.telus.net 22.07.07, 09:00
    Optymista, pesymisci twierdza ze o 50% drozsza.

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