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16.09.02, 19:20
We live in Poland so why is it that you people want to speak english ? I
noticed that many people like in the pub or dance clubs speak english to
eachother even thoug they are polish ! It's very shocking to me becouse we're
polish after all 1 So tell me why is it are you guys ashamed of polish it is
such a beautiful laungage??
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  • magbak 16.09.02, 20:55
    because the world is bigger than Poland ...
    It's about widening horizons and the like! And also kind of fun.
  • sandrunia1 16.09.02, 22:01
    magbak napisała:

    > because the world is bigger than Poland ...
    > It's about widening horizons and the like! And also kind of fun.


    Well so what ?? The world is bigger than Poland in dosen't even make sense
    you're polish and in Poland you should speak polish and when you're trying to
    speak other language than your own in your own country you're making complete
    fool of yourself . Think for second !!
  • Gość: erwas IP: 12.96.204.* 17.09.02, 00:55
    sandrunia1 napisała:
    Think for second !!

    first think,then have a good second think (or have second thoughts), sardynko

    erwas
  • Gość: krecha IP: *.hwr.Arizona.EDU 17.09.02, 04:11
    Everyone should do as they please, unless their actions offend someone else.
    I cannot see how people (presumably strangers) can offend anyone by just
    speaking English in a pub. If you don't like it, just ignore them. But don't try to
    tell others what is right and what is wrong because these are rights and wrongs
    in your mind only, not necessarily in my mind, or that of anyone else.

    Greetings,

    krecha
  • nyo 17.09.02, 15:51
    FREEDOM
  • mouchi 17.09.02, 16:45
    SO why learn any languages?
    and speaking English is practising it. you practise through lessons with
    teacher, reading books and magazines you like, watching movies, tv eng.
    channels, AND SPEAKING also with Polish friends.
    is that so odd?
  • Gość: sylnyc IP: 207.127.204.* 28.09.02, 17:28
    If you you live in a country and speak lounguage other than the the official
    language, it's either you are a foreigner, or know a foreign language, in
    either way you are more educated than the people who speak only the official
    language (one: foreigner: has a background in other culture-language, two:
    foreign language speaker: had to learn other language other than official).

    Speaking a foreign language in a club could also mean, that you dont want
    certain people to understand you, or, their friends in that club speak only
    that language, or you prefer to hang out with the "smarter crowd", or simply
    you're showing off. Either way, it all allows to practice the skill of
    communication, and in English it's much different than in Polish.

    So, bump into me in a club and we'll talk some heavy American Idioms... how
    about that?

    syl
  • Gość: erwas IP: 12.96.204.* 28.09.02, 17:44
    Gość portalu: sylnyc napisał(a):

    > If you you live in a country and speak lounguage other than the the official
    > language, it's either you are a foreigner, or know a foreign language

    or you're one of the couple million Native Americans who still speak their
    languages in defiance of the American "melting pot" culture.

    erwas
  • Gość: Prezes IP: *.ces.clemson.edu 17.09.02, 18:12
    sandrunia1 napisała:

    > We live in Poland so why is it that you people want to
    speak english ? I
    > noticed that many people like in the pub or dance clubs
    speak english to
    > eachother even thoug they are polish ! It's very
    shocking to me becouse we're
    > polish after all 1 So tell me why is it are you guys
    ashamed of polish it is
    > such a beautiful laungage??

    I do not think it is a matter of shame.
    As far as people in pubs speaking English concerned,
    perhaps they just wanted to impress someone
    a girlfriend, or a boyfriend, or maybe you ?
    So it is the same reason some people smoke cigarettes.
    I am sure they will grow up one day...



  • sandrunia1 17.09.02, 20:29
    Gość portalu: Prezes napisał(a):

    > sandrunia1 napisała:
    >
    > > We live in Poland so why is it that you people want to
    > speak english ? I
    > > noticed that many people like in the pub or dance clubs
    > speak english to
    > > eachother even thoug they are polish ! It's very
    > shocking to me becouse we're
    > > polish after all 1 So tell me why is it are you guys
    > ashamed of polish it is
    > > such a beautiful laungage??
    >
    > I do not think it is a matter of shame.
    > As far as people in pubs speaking English concerned,
    > perhaps they just wanted to impress someone
    > a girlfriend, or a boyfriend, or maybe you ?
    > So it is the same reason some people smoke cigarettes.
    > I am sure they will grow up one day...
    >
    >
    > I do think they will grow up finally becouse I must tell you when i hear
    people talking english in they own country with their POLISH friends not only
    it makes me sick it just ridicuolus !!! It is the matter of freedom and I'm
    not saying it's wrong it's just stupid and they are making fools of themselfs.
    Now if you want to practice you're english you go to school or go to a country
    where people speak english otherwise you're just making fool of yourself.
  • nyo 17.09.02, 21:32
    sandrunia1 napisała:

    > > I do think they will grow up finally becouse I must tell you when i hear
    > people talking english in they own country with their POLISH friends not only
    > it makes me sick it just ridicuolus !!! It is the matter of freedom and I'm
    > not saying it's wrong it's just stupid and they are making fools of
    themselfs.
    >
    > Now if you want to practice you're english you go to school or go to a
    country
    > where people speak english otherwise you're just making fool of yourself.

    Have you ever heard the term 'redneck' - maybe it also applies to some people
    in Poland ...
  • Gość: Prezes IP: *.ces.clemson.edu 18.09.02, 00:21
    nyo napisał:

    > sandrunia1 napisała:
    >
    > > > I do think they will grow up finally becouse I must tell you when i h
    > ear
    > > people talking english in they own country with their POLISH friends not o
    > nly
    > > it makes me sick it just ridicuolus !!! It is the matter of freedom and I
    > 'm
    > > not saying it's wrong it's just stupid and they are making fools of
    > themselfs.
    > >
    > > Now if you want to practice you're english you go to school or go to a
    > country
    > > where people speak english otherwise you're just making fool of yourself.
    >
    > Have you ever heard the term 'redneck' - maybe it also applies to some people
    > in Poland ...

    well, I do not see any similarities between some Polish guys
    in a Polish pub having a conversation in English and rednecks...
    For starters, rednecks do not speak any foreign language,
    nor do they like anyone ho does.
  • magbak 18.09.02, 00:46


    > nyo napisał:
    >

    > >
    > > Have you ever heard the term 'redneck' - maybe it also applies to some peo
    > ple
    > > in Poland ...
    >
    > well, I do not see any similarities between some Polish guys
    > in a Polish pub having a conversation in English and rednecks...
    > For starters, rednecks do not speak any foreign language,
    > nor do they like anyone how does.

    I think that's what nyo was getting at. That the view that people should only
    speak Polish is somewhat 'redneck'.
  • sandrunia1 18.09.02, 12:04
    magbak napisała:

    >
    >
    > > nyo napisał:
    > >
    >
    > > >
    > > > Have you ever heard the term 'redneck' - maybe it also applies to som
    > e peo
    > > ple
    > > > in Poland ...
    > >
    > > well, I do not see any similarities between some Polish guys
    > > in a Polish pub having a conversation in English and rednecks...
    > > For starters, rednecks do not speak any foreign language,
    > > nor do they like anyone how does.
    >
    > I think that's what nyo was getting at. That the view that people should only
    > speak Polish is somewhat 'redneck'.

    Well you've just learn a new word redneck now probably you would liketo know
    what does it mean right?? Besides it's not lijke I think that people should
    speak only polish it's just that it's some kind of really weird trend inPoland .
    I've been to diffrent countries and I have a lot of friends that are for
    example Americans they too learn other languages but I've never heard them
    talking like french or something .Oh I know maybe i'ts becouse they speak
    english language that 80%poles think it's their language and that they have to
    speak it.
  • Gość: belferka IP: *.gdynia.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 22.09.02, 13:00

    > .
    > I've been to diffrent countries and I have a lot of friends that are for
    > example Americans they too learn other languages but I've never heard them
    > talking like french or something .Oh I know maybe i'ts becouse they speak
    > english language that 80%poles think it's their language and that they have
    to
    > speak it.

    Maybe that's why Americsns don't speak foreign languages fluently,and with a
    strong accent. I don't see what's wrong with practicing your language
    whereever you feel like.
    Your argument that they make a complete fool of themselves is absurd. This is
    nobody else's business.
    Why do you care? Diddn't youa have sex for a long time or what that youy're
    such a pain in the ass?
  • sandrunia1 22.09.02, 16:05
    Gość portalu: belferka napisał(a):

    >
    > > .
    > > I've been to diffrent countries and I have a lot of friends that are for
    > > example Americans they too learn other languages but I've never heard them
    >
    > > talking like french or something .Oh I know maybe i'ts becouse they speak
    > > english language that 80%poles think it's their language and that they hav
    > e
    > to
    > > speak it.
    >
    > Maybe that's why Americsns don't speak foreign languages fluently,and with a
    > strong accent. I don't see what's wrong with practicing your language
    > whereever you feel like.
    > Your argument that they make a complete fool of themselves is absurd. This is
    > nobody else's business.
    > Why do you care? Diddn't youa have sex for a long time or what that youy're
    > such a pain in the ass?

    It seems to me that you didn't have sex for a long time 'couse that thats the
    only thing that's into your mind .Anyway I'm notgoing to disscus it with you .
  • sandrunia1 22.09.02, 16:08
    sandrunia1 napisała:

    > Gość portalu: belferka napisał(a):
    >
    > >
    > > > .
    > > > I've been to diffrent countries and I have a lot of friends that are
    > for
    > > > example Americans they too learn other languages but I've never heard
    > them
    > >
    > > > talking like french or something .Oh I know maybe i'ts becouse they s
    > peak
    > > > english language that 80%poles think it's their language and that the
    > y hav
    > > e
    > > to
    > > > speak it.
    > >
    > > Maybe that's why Americsns don't speak foreign languages fluently,and with
    > a
    > > strong accent. I don't see what's wrong with practicing your language
    > > whereever you feel like.
    > > Your argument that they make a complete fool of themselves is absurd. This
    > is
    > > nobody else's business.
    > > Why do you care? Diddn't youa have sex for a long time or what that youy'r
    > e
    > > such a pain in the ass?
    >
    > It seems to me that you didn't have sex for a long time 'couse that thats the
    > only thing that's into your mind .Anyway I'm notgoing to disscus it with you .


    Ok i have to correct myself . I meant taht sex is only thing on your
    mind .Maybe i should join some " english practicing group in the pub " Any
    sugestions????
  • Gość: belferka IP: *.gdansk.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 22.09.02, 20:05
    .
    >
    >
    > Ok i have to correct myself . I meant taht sex is only thing on your
    > mind .Maybe i should join some " english practicing group in the pub " Any
    > sugestions????


    So, I was right, desperately looking for an opportunity of a wild orgy??? I
    bet you're still a virgin.
    I feel soooooo sorry for yuo.

  • mamosz 23.09.02, 13:46
    Gość portalu: belferka napisał(a):

    > .
    > >
    > >
    > > Ok i have to correct myself . I meant taht sex is only thing on your
    > > mind .Maybe i should join some " english practicing group in the pub " Any
    >
    > > sugestions????
    >
    >
    > So, I was right, desperately looking for an opportunity of a wild orgy??? I
    > bet you're still a virgin.
    > I feel soooooo sorry for yuo.
    >
    > How about a glass of water instead....?
  • Gość: belferka IP: *.gdansk.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 22.09.02, 20:00

    >
    > It seems to me that you didn't have sex for a long time 'couse that thats
    the
    > only thing that's into your mind .Anyway I'm notgoing to disscus it with
    you .

    You're right I haven't had sex for a pretty long time, since a quicky in the
    morning.

    Good luck in yuor sexlife.
  • Gość: cracovian IP: 9FBA5E* / *.bankofamerica.com 27.09.02, 23:37
    How about two of you and I take care of some business together and then we can
    practice some English in the pub somewhere?
  • Gość: sandrunia IP: *.gdynia.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 30.09.02, 00:37
    Gość portalu: cracovian napisał(a):

    > How about two of you and I take care of some business together and then we
    can
    > practice some English in the pub somewhere?
    Interesting offer. With pleasure. Are you a hanfsome guy? I want to have sex
    with someone attractive .
  • Gość: erwas IP: 12.96.204.* 30.09.02, 01:08
    Gość portalu: sandrunia napisał(a):

    > Gość portalu: cracovian napisał(a):
    >
    > > How about two of you and I take care of some business together and then we
    >
    > can
    > > practice some English in the pub somewhere?
    > Interesting offer. With pleasure. Are you a hanfsome guy? I want to have sex
    > with someone attractive.

    a match made in heaven
  • Gość: Prezes IP: *.ces.clemson.edu 23.09.02, 17:25
    sandrunia1 napisała:

    > magbak napisała:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > > nyo napisał:
    > > >
    > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Have you ever heard the term 'redneck' - maybe it
    also applies t
    > o som
    > > e peo
    > > > ple
    > > > > in Poland ...
    > > >
    > > > well, I do not see any similarities between some
    Polish guys
    > > > in a Polish pub having a conversation in English
    and rednecks...
    > > > For starters, rednecks do not speak any foreign
    language,
    > > > nor do they like anyone how does.
    > >
    > > I think that's what nyo was getting at. That the view
    that people should o
    > nly
    > > speak Polish is somewhat 'redneck'.
    >
    > Well you've just learn a new word redneck now probably
    you would liketo know
    > what does it mean right?? Besides it's not lijke I
    think that people should
    > speak only polish it's just that it's some kind of
    really weird trend inPoland
    > .
    > I've been to diffrent countries and I have a lot of
    friends that are for
    > example Americans they too learn other languages but
    I've never heard them
    > talking like french or something .

    Because they can't !!!
    True, there are Americans who learn other languages
    (mostly Spanish, since this is the second most popular
    language here), but very few of them, really can
    speak any foreign language very well.
    I met perhaps only a couple of Americans (of English
    descent, not immigrants or children of immigrants)who
    were really proficient in a foreign language (and this is
    only because they were married to a foreigner).


    >Oh I know maybe i'ts becouse they speak
    > english language that 80%poles think it's their
    language and that they have to
    > speak it.
  • mouchi 18.09.02, 11:39
    sandrunia1 napisała:

    > Gość portalu: Prezes napisał(a):
    >
    > > sandrunia1 napisała:
    > >
    > > > We live in Poland so why is it that you people want to
    > > speak english ? I
    > > > noticed that many people like in the pub or dance clubs
    > > speak english to
    > > > eachother even thoug they are polish ! It's very
    > > shocking to me becouse we're
    > > > polish after all 1 So tell me why is it are you guys
    > > ashamed of polish it is
    > > > such a beautiful laungage??
    > >
    > > I do not think it is a matter of shame.
    > > As far as people in pubs speaking English concerned,
    > > perhaps they just wanted to impress someone
    > > a girlfriend, or a boyfriend, or maybe you ?
    > > So it is the same reason some people smoke cigarettes.
    > > I am sure they will grow up one day...
    > >
    > >
    > > I do think they will grow up finally becouse I must tell you when i hear
    > people talking english in they own country with their POLISH friends not only
    > it makes me sick it just ridicuolus !!! It is the matter of freedom and I'm
    > not saying it's wrong it's just stupid and they are making fools of
    themselfs.
    >
    > Now if you want to practice you're english you go to school or go to a
    country
    > where people speak english otherwise you're just making fool of yourself.

    ------- the only person making fool og herself is YOU
  • Gość: anula IP: 2.4.STABLE* / 158.2.8.* 18.09.02, 11:45
    The reason could be to practice language skills.
    I am a member of International Training in Communication Club (if you want know
    more about this organisation visit: www.itc-europe.org )and speak English with
    Polish people (usually only Polish) because I want to improve my English. We
    also meet in pubs or somewhere and speak English as well. So, for me this kind
    of conversation is not odd.
    I am happy I DO NOT have to attend any language school and despite it I have a
    chance to speak English.
  • sandrunia1 18.09.02, 12:07
    Gość portalu: anula napisał(a):

    > The reason could be to practice language skills.
    > I am a member of International Training in Communication Club (if you want
    know
    >
    > more about this organisation visit: www.itc-europe.org )and speak English
    with
    > Polish people (usually only Polish) because I want to improve my English. We
    > also meet in pubs or somewhere and speak English as well. So, for me this
    kind
    > of conversation is not odd.
    > I am happy I DO NOT have to attend any language school and despite it I have
    a
    > chance to speak English.

    As I wrote already I know bunch of people from other countries and they too
    learn other languages but only in Poland I've see weird
    things like this!
  • Gość: anula IP: 2.4.STABLE* / 158.2.8.* 18.09.02, 13:23
    I know nothing about any pubs abroad. But there are many English speaking clubs
    in a lot of countries where people speak English. If they are lucky they have a
    foreigner to talk to.
    Anyway, even if it is just a snobbish behaviour, it is better than to be
    ashamed or be afraid to speak English. If you have not any possibility to go
    abroad or to meet a foreigner it could be great to meet regularly someone who
    speaks English. I was looking for this chance for a few years.
    Is it very popular? I did it only a couple of times and never meet others who
    would speak English in public places(only foreigners). But I go to the pubs
    very, very rarely.
  • sandrunia1 22.09.02, 13:29
    Gość portalu: anula napisał(a):

    > I know nothing about any pubs abroad. But there are many English speaking
    clubs
    >
    > in a lot of countries where people speak English. If they are lucky they have
    a
    >
    > foreigner to talk to.
    > Anyway, even if it is just a snobbish behaviour, it is better than to be
    > ashamed or be afraid to speak English. If you have not any possibility to go
    > abroad or to meet a foreigner it could be great to meet regularly someone who
    > speaks English. I was looking for this chance for a few years.
    > Is it very popular? I did it only a couple of times and never meet others who
    > would speak English in public places(only foreigners). But I go to the pubs
    > very, very rarely.

    I'm not really afraid or ashamed of speaking english but many Poles should be
    Anyway I think speaking english with foreginers is ok .
  • mamosz 22.09.02, 19:08
    sardunia1 If I were you I`d join this forum as it is a very good way to
    develop your language skills and you seem to need it badly. Regards
  • Gość: dunno IP: *.unregistered.media-com.com.pl 22.09.02, 22:31
    I myself use some English expressions in plain, everyday conversations, not
    that starting with "f" only :P They sometimes express my thoughts better or
    faster than those in my mother language. My point is that unnecessary speaking
    in English may sound somewhat odd, but it is good to improve one's language, if
    desired. Needless to say it's a great and natural opportunity to have a
    foreigner here to talk to. As to going abroad, it sometimes gives more than
    attending school; specific accent for instance, what we all know. But speaking
    English in public in Poland for mere show off is for mentioned rednecks and I
    don't like it.
  • sandrunia1 24.09.02, 12:16
    mamosz napisała:

    > sardunia1 If I were you I`d join this forum as it is a very good way to
    > develop your language skills and you seem to need it badly. Regards


    you maight be right I will join this sick forum and most of all I'll come to
    visit Poland again and I'll speak only english in every pub I'll go to .Ok
    yes ?? ( poles favorite saying)
  • Gość: Nemo IP: *.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 23.09.02, 15:04
    sandrunia1 napisała:
    > As I wrote already I know bunch of people from other countries and they too
    > learn other languages but only in Poland I've see weird
    > things like this!

    You haven't seen much my dear puppet and that goes for your foreign friends as
    well. It might be that these people speaking English are trying to show off a
    bit. So what? Let them be. We have a saying here: it's a free country :)
    Perhaps you should adopted in Poland as well.
  • sandrunia1 24.09.02, 12:13
    Gość portalu: Nemo napisał(a):

    > sandrunia1 napisała:
    > > As I wrote already I know bunch of people from other countries and they to
    > o
    > > learn other languages but only in Poland I've see weird
    > > things like this!
    >
    > You haven't seen much my dear puppet and that goes for your foreign friends
    as
    > well. It might be that these people speaking English are trying to show off a
    > bit. So what? Let them be. We have a saying here: it's a free country :)
    > Perhaps you should adopted in Poland as well

    First of all I'm not your puppet and I'm not going to be . Second of all I'm
    not going to adopt in Poland and thank God I don't have to live here .I Gave up
    on that topic and after all it is a free country and you and rest of those
    people can make complete idiots of themselfs it's actually their own
    buissnes.Oh if we're talking about showing off a little first you have to have
    something to show off and most poles has a really bad accent to it's really not
    showing off .
  • Gość: erwas IP: 12.96.204.* 24.09.02, 16:39
    sandrunia1 napisała:
    > Oh if we're talking about showing off a little first you have to have
    > something to show off

    so what you got there sardunia1? you're going to show us? go on! show off!
    let's take a little peek.

    erwas
  • sandrunia1 25.09.02, 16:12
    Gość portalu: erwas napisał(a):

    > sandrunia1 napisała:
    > > Oh if we're talking about showing off a little first you have to have
    > > something to show off
    >
    > so what you got there sardunia1? you're going to show us? go on! show off!
    > let's take a little peek.
    >
    > erwas


    You knnow what go give yourself a hand job ok !! Anyway I'm not some polish
    people that are trying to impress others with their skills I know what I learn
    and I also know That you're are going to have study english a least 10 more
    years to impress me .
  • sandrunia1 25.09.02, 16:13
    Gość portalu: erwas napisał(a):

    > sandrunia1 napisała:
    > > Oh if we're talking about showing off a little first you have to have
    > > something to show off
    >
    > so what you got there sardunia1? you're going to show us? go on! show off!
    > let's take a little peek.
    >
    > erwas


    Just to let you know you actually can't peek at somebodys skills in english .
  • Gość: Prezes IP: *.ces.clemson.edu 24.09.02, 18:56
    sandrunia1 napisała:

    > Gość portalu: Nemo napisał(a):
    >
    > > sandrunia1 napisała:
    > > > As I wrote already I know bunch of people from other countries and th
    > ey to
    > > o
    > > > learn other languages but only in Poland I've see weird
    > > > things like this!
    > >
    > > You haven't seen much my dear puppet and that goes for your foreign friend
    > s
    > as
    > > well. It might be that these people speaking English are trying to show of
    > f a
    > > bit. So what? Let them be. We have a saying here: it's a free country :)
    > > Perhaps you should adopted in Poland as well
    >
    > First of all I'm not your puppet and I'm not going to be . Second of all I'm
    > not going to adopt in Poland and thank God I don't have to live here .I Gave up
    >
    > on that topic and after all it is a free country and you and rest of those
    > people can make complete idiots of themselfs it's actually their own
    > buissnes.



    >Oh if we're talking about showing off a little first you have to have
    > something to show off and most poles has a really bad accent to it's really not
    >
    > showing off .

    Well, people who show off usually make fools of themselves,
    because they do not have anything of real importance to impress
    others (girls, friends, etc.) so they act to be (at least in their perception) cool,
    even though they really look foolish.


    Why is it bothering you so much ? What do you care what other people do ?
    Especially if it does not encroach on your territory.
  • sandrunia1 25.09.02, 16:08
    Gość portalu: Prezes napisał(a):

    > sandrunia1 napisała:
    >
    > > Gość portalu: Nemo napisał(a):
    > >
    > > > sandrunia1 napisała:
    > > > > As I wrote already I know bunch of people from other countries a
    > nd th
    > > ey to
    > > > o
    > > > > learn other languages but only in Poland I've see weird
    > > > > things like this!
    > > >
    > > > You haven't seen much my dear puppet and that goes for your foreign f
    > riend
    > > s
    > > as
    > > > well. It might be that these people speaking English are trying to sh
    > ow of
    > > f a
    > > > bit. So what? Let them be. We have a saying here: it's a free country
    > :)
    > > > Perhaps you should adopted in Poland as well
    > >
    > > First of all I'm not your puppet and I'm not going to be . Second of all I
    > 'm
    > > not going to adopt in Poland and thank God I don't have to live here .I Ga
    > ve up
    > >
    > > on that topic and after all it is a free country and you and rest of those
    >
    > > people can make complete idiots of themselfs it's actually their own
    > > buissnes.
    >
    >
    >
    > >Oh if we're talking about showing off a little first you have to have
    > > something to show off and most poles has a really bad accent to it's reall
    > y not
    > >
    > > showing off .
    >
    > Well, people who show off usually make fools of themselves,
    > because they do not have anything of real importance to impress
    > others (girls, friends, etc.) so they act to be (at least in their
    perception)
    > cool,
    > even though they really look foolish.
    >
    >
    > Why is it bothering you so much ? What do you care what other people do ?
    > Especially if it does not encroach on your territory.




    Well actually it does .And it bothers me really badly but as I said it's a free
    country and people can do whatever they want to .
  • Gość: ala IP: *.otenet.gr 27.09.02, 09:13
    Hi!

    I do not really understand what problem you people have!!!
    Does it matter what language we speak???
    The most important thing is communication. I believe it would be much easier to
    have one common language (for instance English since so many people speak).
    It surprises me that so many people are so small, but think so much about
    themselves at the same time.Communication is the first step that will allow our
    civilization to move forward. The sooner we understand it the better it will be.
    Regards,
  • Gość: ula IP: *.borland.pl 27.09.02, 09:38
    What more, you have the debate about "stupid Polish people" speaking English
    in.....English!!
    Ha, ha, ha! All of you are POLISH! So what is the excuse for writting in
    English??
    The same as about speaking! Just practicing..!
  • sandrunia1 27.09.02, 17:20
    Gość portalu: ula napisał(a):

    > What more, you have the debate about "stupid Polish people" speaking English
    > in.....English!!
    > Ha, ha, ha! All of you are POLISH! So what is the excuse for writting in
    > English??
    > The same as about speaking! Just practicing..!


    You actually are right .I give up it's a free country and you guys can do
    whatever you want to. I'll try caming back to that forum just to practice my
    writing in English.
  • magbak 27.09.02, 18:39
    Why is some people find other people speaking in English such a fucking
    problem!

    I put it down to jealousy.
  • Gość: sylnyc IP: 207.127.204.* 28.09.02, 17:30
    agree... as i said in other message... jelous is one reason. what's so hard
    about picking up an english-language magazine or newspaper and read some, or
    simply watch some tv without dubbing or subtitles, and TRY to understand what
    the characters are saying. A lot of people learn this way, and it's very
    effective. There are many solutions to learn languages... but being lazy, and
    jelous is not one.
  • awalk 14.11.02, 13:25
    sandrunia1 napisała:

    > Gość portalu: ula napisał(a):
    >
    > > What more, you have the debate about "stupid Polish people" speaking Engli
    > sh
    > > in.....English!!
    > > Ha, ha, ha! All of you are POLISH! So what is the excuse for writting in
    > > English??
    > > The same as about speaking! Just practicing..!
    >
    >
    > You actually are right .I give up it's a free country and you guys can do
    > whatever you want to. I'll try caming back to that forum just to practice my
    > writing in English.

    At last, you have learned something. I think it is an excellent idea. You
    should practise your English written and spoken, wherever you just happen to
    be. Almost every place is appropriate. I agree that it is much better to
    practise with a native speaker, but then I don't mind speaking to a lamp post
    if it's going to help me. It might look weird to a passerby, but who cares? To
    sum it up, I don't think the people you talk about make fools of themselves, on
    the contrary it is you who has been trying very hard to earn yourself the right
    to be called a stuffed shirt, which means a pompous, and self-opinionated
    person.
  • Gość: . IP: proxy / *.chimpanzee.dialup.pol.co.uk 17.11.02, 01:41
    not
    excuse?
    perhaps can't show off in Polish
  • Gość: erwas IP: 12.96.204.* 17.11.02, 05:18
    Gość portalu: . napisał(a):

    > not
    > excuse?
    > perhaps can't show off in Polish

    no, I think.
  • Gość: Prezes IP: *.ces.clemson.edu 27.09.02, 18:32
    Gość portalu: ala napisał(a):

    > Hi!
    >
    > I do not really understand what problem you people have!!!
    > Does it matter what language we speak???
    > The most important thing is communication. I believe it
    would be much easier to
    >
    > have one common language (for instance English since so
    many people speak).

    Even more people speak Mandarine Chineese,
    so why not Chineese ? why not Arabic ? Spanish ?
    Russian ? So many people use these languages...

    Certainly having a common language would be easy,
    especially for doing business, but it would be also
    boring. Language is an intrinsic part of our culture,
    it shapes our mind, it makes us who we are.
    Humankind is so rich, because of the variety
    of cultures, languages and customs.

    > It surprises me that so many people are so small, but
    think so much about
    > themselves at the same time.Communication is the first
    step that will allow our
    >
    > civilization to move forward. The sooner we understand
    it the better it will be
    > .
    > Regards,

  • Gość: Wojtek IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 27.09.02, 18:42
    Hear, hear...!!!Prezes, don't you start. Sandrunia's just seen the light!
  • Gość: ala IP: *.otenet.gr 07.10.02, 11:03
    Hi!

    I mentioned English as a common language because it is the most widely spoken
    language in the world and nobody can deny it.
    I can assure you that most of the mandarin chinese speaking people speak
    English as well. And same goes for whatever else you have mentioned.
    At the same time I want to tell you that I do not have anything against
    national languages, I just consider the existence of a common language an
    absolute necessity.
    As for our rich culture I totally disagree with you. I do not see any culture
    in fact. From my observation people are savages, and nothing more than that.
    History is full of examples that prove it, but unfortunately we do not learn
    anything from it. I strongly believe that it will not do us any good if we
    concentrate on diffrences instead of seeing what we have in common.
    Regards
  • Gość: Prezes IP: *.ces.clemson.edu 07.10.02, 17:52
    Gość portalu: ala napisał(a):

    > Hi!
    >
    > I mentioned English as a common language because it is
    the most widely spoken
    > language in the world and nobody can deny it.

    It depends how you define "most widely spoken"
    If it is the number of people who speak the language,
    than Chineese would beat any other language
    on the globe.

    If it is the territory "covered" by a certain language
    than it might be English, but both Spanish and Arabic are
    pretty widespread too.

    If you consider global influence, than certainly
    English is number one. It is mostly due to
    the leading position of the US in world's affairs since
    the end of WWII.

    > I can assure you that most of the mandarin chinese
    speaking people speak
    > English as well.

    And I can assure you that you could not be further from
    the truth. Have you ever been to China ?
    How many people on the streets understood English ???


    And same goes for whatever else you have mentioned.
    > At the same time I want to tell you that I do not have
    anything against
    > national languages, I just consider the existence of a
    common language an
    > absolute necessity.

    Well, somehow human civilization survived for
    several thousand years without a common language,
    so apparently it is NOT a necessity.
    We CAN live without a common language.
    Would it be easier if everyone spoke the same
    language. You bet !!
    Would it make us better. I have no illusions,
    that it would not.



    > As for our rich culture I totally disagree with you. I
    do not see any culture
    > in fact.

    What about literature, music, theater, visual art,
    etc. Do you discard all of it indiscriminately ?

    >From my observation people are savages, and nothing more
    than that.

    Yes, some people are. You must be very naive
    to think that having a common language would change it.

    > History is full of examples that prove it, but
    unfortunately we do not learn
    > anything from it. I strongly believe that it will not
    do us any good if we
    > concentrate on diffrences instead of seeing what we
    have >in common.

    I agree, we should emphasize what we have in common,
    but we ought to respect individual rights of every human
    being. Cultural, linguistic and genetic diversity is
    what makes us, people, great.



    > Regards
  • Gość: ala IP: *.otenet.gr 08.10.02, 11:32
    Hi,

    All I ment by saying that English is the most widely spoken language is that no
    matter where you go, you can somehow manage to communicate in English. But that
    is not the main point. English or not, common language would definitely make it
    easier for people to communicate.

    Of course existance of a common language would not make us better people and
    would not change the current situation in the world, but how can we improve or
    change sth without being able to communicate with each other?


    As for the culture -of course literature, music, theater ect. all this is
    wonderful, provided that you have means to enjoy it. In my undersaning culture
    is something more than that. Considering it as ideals, beliefs and customs
    that are shared and accepted by people in a society I would have a great
    difficulty to describe what is our culture based on.


    It is very nice to know that there are still individuals who consider us -
    people to be great.
    I want to tell you that I do not see anything positive about developments on
    our planet. Power and money are two evil things that people are ready to kill
    for and they are in hands of very few, who do not care about avarage human
    being. Most of the Earth's population live on income below poverty level, our
    life is limited to the struggle for survival.

    As for the individual rights of every human being I agree, they have to be
    respected for as long as they are fair and equal.


    This whole discussion about common language started from a totally wrong place.
    To make you understand what exactly I had in mind I should perhaps explain a
    little bit about my beliefs, but I am not sure if you are interested in
    starting a discussion that may involve sharing different opinions about current
    and future developments in the world.
    Please let me know.

    Regards,
  • Gość: cracovian IP: 9FBA5E* / *.bankofamerica.com 27.09.02, 23:56
    Sandrunia - I thought you were cool and all at first but I didn't realize that
    you lived abroad! If you do then, for god's sake, take this opportunity to
    learn English a bit more and come back here then.

    You think you're such a hot item, you come visit Poland and you're shocked with
    how Poles behave out of the sudden... After reading a few of your posts here
    the only thing that I can picture now is YOU sitting in the pub somewhere and
    telling some stranger about your adventures overseas in your broken English.
    You are TRULY a pain in the ass but let it be known that you're not alone
    here...

    You people (and you know who you are) need to relax a little bit, find yourself
    a nice looking foreign boy/girlfriend, and practice your tongue skills till the
    morning dawn. Then you won't have time to post bullshit here and give a hard
    time to normal people...
  • Gość: nat IP: *.in-addr.btopenworld.com 08.10.02, 13:25
    Not a great animal lover myself but feel I have to speak up in defence of
    donkeys worldwide. The pain, like the one you dish out so freely, is actually
    felt in one's ARSE. 'Morning dawn' must be some fascinating phenomenon as
    compared to the 'evening dawn' perhaps?
    People in glass houses should not be throwing stones.
  • tfuj_aniou_strusz 08.10.02, 12:59
    so if you want to speak polish ,do so. and if it bothers you, do not write
    that it does, in english.
    peace sister
    --
    Tfuj Aniou Strusz .
  • Gość: Angel G. IP: *.sympatico.ca 08.10.02, 15:39
    C'mon, bro, didn't you get it? She just wants to blow and suck at the same
    time. That's what puts her into "silly" category.
    Love'n'kisses
  • Gość: missy5 IP: *.nowyport.pl / 192.168.1.* 14.11.02, 15:54
    That really sounds strange when two Poles talk in English in their country,it's
    just funny:)And don't even tell me that that's a way of practising a language,I
    won't believe it.Among so many opportunities to practise english (this forum
    for example),this one is rather rotten...;)
    As far as I'm concerned,we forgot a bit of the role of English,it's not a way
    of life but an ability,useful(soemtimes neccesary though)at work or in
    communication with other native speakers.It's a shame for us as a Polish
    nation,remember the words?"...Polacy nie gesi,iz swoj jezyk maja."
  • Gość: chickenShorts IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 14.11.02, 16:51
    Gość portalu: missy5 napisał(a):

    > That really sounds strange when two Poles talk in English in their
    country,it's
    >
    > just funny:)And don't even tell me that that's a way of practising a
    language,I
    >
    > won't believe it.Among so many opportunities to practise english (this forum
    > for example),this one is rather rotten...;)
    > As far as I'm concerned,we forgot a bit of the role of English,it's not a way
    > of life but an ability,useful(soemtimes neccesary though)at work or in
    > communication with other native speakers.It's a shame for us as a Polish
    > nation,remember the words?"...Polacy nie gesi,iz swoj jezyk maja."


    Do you really know to what Mr Rej alluded when he said that? To omnipresent
    Latin (Latin = language of geese, at that time), official language in medieval
    Poland.
    Finding it strange that Poles practice English openly is your right, to
    proclaim it weired is rather silly but to quote Rej in the context smacks of
    nationalistic rant.
    In few years Euro! In few decades English! Babel rebuilt and then we knock
    Him down, eh?! Just jocking with the last one.
  • Gość: des IP: *.mckinn1.vic.optusnet.com.au 17.11.02, 08:01
    So they can communicate in a different lingo , you fuckhead
  • Gość: . IP: webcacheH* / *.elephant.dialup.pol.co.uk 19.11.02, 02:47
    Where is she anyway?

    Why don't you take your pretty little English-speaking mouth and the rest of
    the luvelee self down a pub or club somewhere to practise your
    numerous skills there, where you may also find a handsome stranger to
    satisfy your patriotic as well as linguistic needs and maybe desires and
    cravings of other nature too , thus keeping you from causing a mess of
    this scale on this friendly little board.

    truly concerned

    your best mate
  • Gość: chickenShorts IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 20.11.02, 13:51
    Gość portalu: des napisał(a):
    > So they can communicate in a different lingo , you fuckhead<

    Yeah, I must be to respond to you... But then, I made a point of responding to
    any post directed at me. So, what exactly were you trying to say? No, not by
    the last bit, as thid was clear to me, but by "So they could communicate in a
    different lingo"... or, maybe, different lingos?
  • charissa 20.11.02, 21:44
    popracuj nad gramatyka angielska!!
  • Gość: chickenShorts IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 20.11.02, 22:00
    charissa napisała:

    > popracuj nad gramatyka angielska!!<

    I will!
  • Gość: erwas IP: 12.96.204.* 21.11.02, 04:27
    Gość portalu: chickenShorts napisał(a):

    > charissa napisała:
    >
    > > popracuj nad gramatyka angielska!!<

    you're one lucky guy chickenShorts. charissa came along at just the right
    moment for you.
    now I don't want to seem overly picky mind, but: "Yes, I must be to respond to
    you" is an akward phrase, you must admit.

    > I will!

    your cheerful enthusiasm in the face of this challenge should be an example for
    all others on this forum. it will be interesting to note what progress you make.
    erwas
  • Gość: chickenShorts IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 21.11.02, 10:27
    erwas,
    how are you? long time, no slap, eh? even if only reflected...

    Gość portalu: erwas napisał(a):
    > you're one lucky guy chickenShorts. charissa came along at just the right
    > moment for you.<

    ...before you did, you mean?...

    > now I don't want to seem overly picky mind, but: "Yes, I must be to respond
    to you" is an akward phrase, you must admit.<

    Yes, I did clearly* admit that it was a very a w k w a r d phrase.
    Well, had I been less of a chicken and more like you, I would've argued
    (unsuccessfuly, no doubt) that as a transcript of a conversation, it only
    lacked punctuation... -

    the gentleman from Down Under - "... you fuckhead!"
    me - "I must be!... to respond to you..."

    - but it would have been more in character with cockBoxers, not me...

    > I will!*> your cheerful enthusiasm in the face of this challenge <

    How to react otherwise, when in the presence of a great learning coupled with
    great modesty ,the aforementioned lady displayed...

    > should be an example for all others on this forum.<

    I agree.

    >it will be interesting to note what progress you make<
    > erwas

    I have no doubt you'll keep me posted, on that score,at keast.

    Yours,
    chickenShorts
  • charissa 21.11.02, 11:23
    Sandrunia was supposed to read this, not you ;-))) I often use Polish here because I know I may do some
    mistake, and I hate it (my mistakes).
    Thanks for ansewring my question yesterday night ;-)

  • Gość: chickenShorts IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 21.11.02, 13:12
    Charissa!
    Oooh, charissa, charissa... I love your nick. Comes from Charity, no doubt.


    erwas,
    oooh, erwas, you are the reason I come to this forum so often. Shalom!
  • charissa 21.11.02, 13:31
    Go?? portalu: chickenShorts napisa?(a):

    > Charissa!
    > Oooh, charissa, charissa... I love your nick. Comes
    from Charity, no doubt.

    :-*
  • Gość: chickenShorts IP: *.abo.wanadoo.fr 21.11.02, 13:43
    Oh, dear, that's personal, in'it?!
    (let's say I was a girl-chicken for the first two or three weeks of my
    existence and then...)
  • Gość: erwas IP: 12.96.204.* 21.11.02, 18:23
    and to me this 'ere seems to be be an ideal place to run into you, also.
    I do get swept up in the turmoil of life around me which explains my writing
    lapses.
    erwas

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