Dzień Gdyni w tv KinoPolska

02.02.06, 10:54
Moze juz wiecie, a jak nie to wam polecam: 10 lutego czyli w 80.rocznice
nadania Gdyni praw miejskich, w telewizji KinoPolska (mozna ogladać w
kablowych telewizjach np. Multimedia oraz na platformie Canal+)od rana do
wieczora emitowane beda filmy dokumentalne i fabularne od czasów
przedwojennych po współczesność, a w szystko przeplatana wypowiedziami osób
znanych i klochajacych nasze miasteczko. Dokładny program tutaj:

www.gdynia.pl/?co=mieszkancy/dziengdyni
I tylko mały dylemat: czy tego dnia wziąć urlop czy iść na wagary, he,he.
    • krunhol Re: Dzień Gdyni w tv KinoPolska 02.02.06, 19:22
      I szkoda, że tylko w multimediach.
      Klienci UPC też powinni mieć możliwość obejrzenia w swojej kablówce film o
      Gdyni. Technicznie jest to możliwe, decyzja nalezy do UPC.
      Proponuję sprzedaż tego filmu na płycie do odtworzenia w komputerze.
      I jeszcze jedna sprawa. Przydałoby się parę starych fotek w galerii na stronie
      Gdyni, jeżeli nie na stałe to chociaż w czasie jubileuszu.
      Gdynię należy reklamować w każdy możliwy sposób, a jubileusz temu sprzyja i
      trzeba taką okazję wykorzystać.
      Pozdrowienia dla pani rzecznik
      • windyga Re: Dzień Gdyni w tv KinoPolska 02.02.06, 19:35
        To nie będzie film!!!! To bedzie cały dzień filmów fabularnych i dokumentalnych
        oraz rozmowy z róznymi osobami, w sumie ok. 14 godzin!!!. KinoPolska na razie
        ma ograniczony zasieg do kablówki Muultimediów i chyba jeszcze jakichś oraz na
        platformie Canal +. Nie sadze by było takie proste to, co sugerujesz. Prosciej
        będzie tego dnia odwiedzic znajomych którzy dysponuja odbiorem KinoPolska...
        • windyga Re: Dzień Gdyni w tv KinoPolska 02.02.06, 19:38
          I jeszcze jedno. Na stronie www.gdynia.pl faktycznie nie ma galerii zdjęć
          historycznych choc cosik tam jest...na kolejnych stronach:
          www.gdynia.pl/?co=inf_miejski/historia
          • krunhol Re: Dzień Gdyni w tv KinoPolska 02.02.06, 19:45
            w galerii brak, są w księdze gdynian
        • krunhol Re: Dzień Gdyni w tv KinoPolska 02.02.06, 19:44
          Wiem, że będzie długo dlatego sugerowałam "wyproszenie" u UPC. Jeżeli inne
          głupawe programy można wcisnąć na kanał informacyjny , to jednorazowo Gdynie
          też dałoby radę wcisnąć. A rada ze znajomymi i urlopem to rada urzędnika
          budżetowego i dziękuję
          • windyga Re: Dzień Gdyni w tv KinoPolska 04.02.06, 08:50
            Daruj sobie takie uwagi... Pisz raczej protest do UPC. A najlepiej żeby to
            zrobiło wiecej osób. Co z tego, że pojeczysz na forum? Wiecej bowiem zdziała
            wola ludu niz jakikolwiek dekret urzedniczy. Tu w gre wchodza interesy kablówek
            a nie miłośc UPC czy Multimediów do naszego miasteczka.
            • krunhol Re: Dzień Gdyni w tv KinoPolska 10.02.06, 12:27
              A jednak można było jednorazowo "wcisnąć" KP, a za miłą odpowiedź dziękuję.
              Myślałam, że miejski urzędnik ma inne podejscie do podatnika, z którego żyje
        • narysuj.mi.baranka Re: Dzień Gdyni w tv KinoPolska 03.02.06, 10:54
          Tak w ogole to UPC jest bezczelne: nie dość, że Kino Polska nie ma w Pakiecie
          to mozna je sobie wykupic wykupujac przedtem HBO albo Canal+.
    • doda-elektroda zwłaszcza ten Titanic zapowiada się czadersko 04.02.06, 11:38
      jakby komuś nie chciało się szukać co to jest:

      ***

      www.videobusines.com:

      Story Line: The colorful characters awaiting their date with destiny aboard
      the "unsinkable" ocean liner Titanic include a Balkan millionaire (Schmitz), a
      rich couple "keeping up appearances" and the president of the White Star Line
      (Fürbringer), who commands the captain to maintain top speed despite an iceberg
      sighting.

      Bottom Line: Produced in 1943 under the Third Reich, this melodramatic artifact
      is a great deal of fun to watch, if only because its agenda is so crystal
      clear. The Brits running the ship are dull-witted, greedy boors that refuse to
      listen to the sole German officer onboard who, naturally enough, is the only
      one who understands the dangerous course the ship is on. The picture is similar
      to James Cameron's later blockbuster in that the ship serves as a floating soap
      opera: two of the ship's workers fall madly in love, a dancing girl does a
      shimmy for the steerage passengers and the jewels of the rich "Mrs. Astor" are
      nearly stolen. The film may seem like a bit of wartime fluff, but its images of
      panicked individuals running for their lives caused it's ban by Goebbels until
      after the war. Kino is releasing Titanic along with another German wartime
      production--the imaginative 1943 "super-production" Munchausen. --Ed Grant

      ***

      www.kino.com:

      Before James Cameron's 1997 blockbuster Titanic, the Hollywood Titanic of 1953,
      the 1958 British film A Night to Remember, and the 1997 Broadway musical
      Titanic, there was the Nazi German film Titanic. A Tobis production begun in
      1942, this production nearly sank as decisively as the doomed ocean liner. The
      filmï¿1/2s director, Herbert Selpin, infuriated with the slow second-unit
      shooting in the port of Gdynia, was overheard making remarks damning the German
      army. Reported to the Gestapo, Selpin was arrested and later found hanging in
      his prison cell, the victim of an arranged ï¿1/2suicide.ï¿1/2
      In April, 1943, the film was banned by the Berlin censors for German release
      because of its terrifying scenes of panic, all too familiar to German civilians
      undergoing nightly Allied bombing raids. After extensive cutting, Titanic was
      released in occupied Paris and a few army installations. The film was seen in
      Germany finally in late 1949, but banned a few months later in the Western
      sectors (though not in the Soviet zone, because of its unmistakable anti-
      British-capitalist theme).
      Technically, this Titanic is an excellent catastrophe film; its shots of the
      ship sinking were later used by the 1958 British film without credit. Somewhat
      true to the factsï¿1/2though peppered with fictional good Germans both on and
      below deck, in steerageï¿1/2the film ends with a trial scene that aquits the
      White Star Line management, followed by a final slide denouncing Englandï¿1/2s
      ï¿1/2eternal quest for profit.ï¿1/2 These packed a powerful propaganda punch;
      cut from the postwar prints, they have been restored for this Kino on Video
      version.

      ***

      www.filmdb.de:

      This 1943 version of "Titanic" made in Nazi Germany is not the first sound film
      of the Titanic story, let alone the first movie devoted to the famous
      disaster. "Atlantic" (1929) was a fictionalized account (changing the name of
      the ship) directed by Ewald André Dupont in England. In the silent era Pier
      Angelo Mazzolotti made an Italian "Titanic" in 1915 and in Germany "In Nacht
      und Eis" ("In Night and Ice") was made by Mime Misu and released a few days
      after the sinking of the ship in 1912. The 1943 version was begun by director
      Herbert Selpin, who made the mistake of criticizing its writer and the Germany
      navy, so Joseph Goebbels had him arrested by the Gestapo and the next day
      Selpin was found hung in his cell. The film was then finished by Werner Klinger
      but was never released as Goebbels ordered the negative locked up. Speculation
      is that the scenes of mass death would considered too upsetting to show German
      audiences, but I am not sure if that ironic explanation rings true.


      This Nazi version of the story of the "Titanic" can be reduced to two key
      elements. First, in an attempt to drive up the price of the stock of the White
      Star Line by Sir Bruce Ismay (Ernst Fritz Fürbringer), who invites the
      company's board on the Titanic's maiden voyage. Titanic assumes a record speed
      of 26 1/2 knots, which gets many of the rich men on board to buy stock, but the
      price is being driven down. Apparently Ismay is not as smart as John Jacob
      Astor (Karl Schönböck), whose wife is referred to as Lady Astor (Charlotte
      Thiele) even though she is American. Second, as the ship heads towards its
      fatal encounter with an iceberg, the only person on board who thinks this is a
      bad idea and tries to do something about it is 1st Office Petersen (Hans
      Nielsen), who happens to be the only German officer on board. Ismay dismisses
      Petersen's concerns, saying the German simply does not want England to win the
      blue ribbon (apparently the prize for being the fastest ship on earth).
      Petersen even tries to convince Ismay's mistress, Sigrid Olinsky (Sybille
      Schmitz, technically the star of the movie since her name comes first, plus she
      starred in "Vampyre") to persuade him to slow down the vessel, but that does
      not happen. When the ship hits the iceberg and starts sinking, Petersen blames
      Sigrid as much as Ismay, and consumed by guilt she gives up her seat in the
      lifeboat to a woman from steerage. Petersen is moved and gives her his coat.


      Obviously there are some interesting aspects to this version of the familiar
      story. After hitting the iceberg the ship stops and the passengers down in
      steerage notice, so they all decide to march up to the big party that is going
      on above them and demand an explanation from the captain. A ship is sighted and
      they try to contact it by radio, but apparently it is an old ship without a
      radio. A recurring theme here is that for all the opulence of the ship's
      massive ballroom, Ismay did not spend money on spare filaments for the
      searchlights or the right colored rockets for an S.O.S. The flares are seen,
      but it is assumed the Titanic is celebrating since they are the wrong color (an
      interesting twist on what really happened to be sure). Oh, and the band on the
      Titanic? This time it is a virtual marching band with a tuba and xylophone who
      are still playing "Nearer My God to Me" as the ship goes down. But the oddest
      sight has to be when the Titanic goes down by the stern.

      This "Titanic" is certainly interesting, although its inherent propaganda value
      is more interesting than its dramatic impact. The latter is conveyed more by
      the screams of the panicking passengers than anything in terms of the limited
      special effects. After all, we are talking a model of the ship and a luxury
      liner that is clearly not sinking; all of the lifeboats are away before
      suddenly the camera tilts to indicate what is happening. Besides, while the
      panic might have been intended to show the English as being cowardly, the fact
      that most of those screaming passengers are from steerage and going to die
      takes away notions of racial superiority. I assume that the couple John and
      Anna are German, which explains why they are calm and compassionate while the
      non-Aryan passengers are trampling each other to death. The fate of John and
      Anna is one of the key attempts at pathos here, along with the radio operator's
      pet bird, but the tacked on melodrama in the final scene undoes what had been
      effective with the couple up to that point.

      Meanwhile, the ship is going down and Ismay is trying to make a deal to save
      his job, because this guy is really scum, which is certainly an indictment of
      the capitalists. No wonder C
      • doda-elektroda i jeszcze to 04.02.06, 11:40
        Meanwhile, the ship is going down and Ismay is trying to make a deal to save
        his job, because this guy is really scum, which is certainly an indictment of
        the capitalists. No wonder Captain Smith (Otto Wernicke) refuses to do anything
        to save him. Fortunately Petersen is too good of a guy to let Sigrid go down
        with him and the ship; their parting is the one point in the film that tries to
        do something artistic, along with the capsizing of one of the lifeboats. Again,
        the desperate fight for survival, as those who are in the water try to climb
        aboard a overflowing lifeboat only to be beaten off by those already safe, can
        be read either way: as the inherent baseness of the English or as what happens
        to all human beings when they are reduced to simply trying to stay alive. But
        if you have any doubt about what the point of "Titanic" was, that is settled by
        the declaration at the end of the film that, "The deaths of 1,500 people remain
        unatoned for an eternal condemnation of England's quest for profit."

        ***

        www.hsse.nie.edu.sg:

        THE NAZI 1943 MOVIE OF THE TITANIC

        Context: The Titanic was conceived like much anti-British German propaganda of
        the Nazi period. It was designed to reinforce existing German prejudice that
        the British were ruled by a wicked and greedy upper class.
        The Nazi Titanic followed a similar theme found in was Soldaten von Morgen or
        Soldiers of Tomorrow (1941), which reinforced the German stereotypes of the
        English upper class as decadent. That film was a comedy showing bad school
        English school boys at upper class schools growing into Britain’s wartime
        leaders.

        Director of the Titanic
        Herbert Selpin was the director of the film. He had made several good quality
        German films in the 1930s. Selpin got into trouble with Goebbels because his
        unfavourable remarks on the set about the extras from the German armed forces.
        He was asked to apologise for his remarks about the German armed forces before
        Goebbels, Selpin refused and was later straggled by the SS in a prison cell.
        The film was completed by another director, Werner Klinger.

        Propaganda in the German 1943 Titanic
        The Ship Sails
        The film opens with scenes showing how expensive project the Titanic was. Sir
        Bruce Ismay, the President of the White Star Lines, wants to make sure that the
        ship’s first crossing is done in record time and is big news.
        American and British businessmen financing the Titanic, Bruce Ismay and Jacob
        Astor are shown as unscruplous selfish individuals placing the passengers of
        the ship at risk in order to make money on the ship crossing the Atlantic in
        record speed.
        Among the crew, the only officer objecting to the order of the Ismay, President
        of the liner, to go full speed despite the risks of running into an iceberg
        flow is the German officer. The captain is offered a cash bonus for going as
        fast as he can.
        The opening scenes on ship show the opulence of the British upper class.
        The “wickedness” and “deceitfulness” of the social life of British upper class
        is implicit in the film as the journey progresses.
        Titanic Sinks
        When the ship hits the iceberg and starts to sink many crew and passenger on
        board behave badly. Those who behave bravely are one German couple, a German
        officer in the crew and his Russian ex-lover. Many of the English passengers
        are shown as panicking and stampeding and trampling people to death, and
        swamping lifeboats.
        When the ship’s officers come down to the third class passengers or steerage
        passengers to get the women and children to leave the ship by lifeboats they
        shoot several of the men who try want to immediately flee the ship. The
        steerage passengers panic and stampede up the steps to the deck.
        Interestingly, there is no depiction of the British ship's officers stopping
        steerage passengers leaving the ship, as in the James Cameron 1998 version.
        However, that the poor are trapped below while the rich escape has become part
        of the film has became a myth about the film. It is not clear why the Nazi
        propagandists did not include such material, which would have made good
        propaganda.
        The Inquiry
        In the original version there is an inquiry into the sinking. Both the captain
        and the financers of shipping firm are not blamed. The film describes this as
        a ‘travesty of justice”. It ends with the words: “The death of 1500 remained
        untoned. An everlasting condemnation of England’s Greed”. Interestingly, the
        propaganda message is overtly stated. This was removed from the versions shown
        after the war because the Allies occupied Germany for a while and they censored
        many of the films shown, and the Titanic was shown in postwar Germany as
        entertainment.

        Was the Titanic Propaganda?
        Robert Peck, film historian, has described the end titles as being crucial to
        evaluating the film as propaganda.
        You can find Robert Peck's article "The Banning of Titanic: a study of British
        postwar film censorship in Germany" on the web journal "Historical Journal of
        Film, Radio and Television".

        Peck’s analysis suggests that the film is not as unequivocally anti-British as
        the myth of the film suggests, except in that last titles at the end.
        The ships crew are shown at times behaving professionally, distributing life-
        jackets and making sure that the women and children are safely away in the
        lifeboats. The women from the steerage are treated as equally as the British
        upper class by the crew when placing them in the lifeboats while male
        passengers are excluded.
        However, there is an argument that most of the Nazi films had subtle propaganda
        in them because Goebbels preferred this way of presenting propaganda. The
        portrayal of the greedy financiers of the Titanic who are members of the
        British upper class forcing the ship to speed across the Atlantic into an
        iceberg flow because they wanted the Titanic to beat the record and make lots
        of money for them can be interpreted as subtle propaganda.
        You can find the 1943 Nazi Titanic listed in the website of history of Titanic
        Movies and information about the Titanic by using the Media Awareness Network.
        Just type in Titanic in the search of its own site and a series of interesting
        articles will come up.
        See material in the course notes from The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Titanic
        (1998).

        There is an excellent summary of the Nazi 1943 movie The Titanic in the chapter
        called "Goebbel's Folly" in Simon Mills, The Titanic in Pictures (1995). This
        book gives a very good summary of all the Titanic films up to 1995 (thus the
        James Cameron 1997 film is not included). It is available in the redspot
        collection of the NIE library.
        Some Highlights in the 1943 Titanic
        1-13 minutes:
        The film opens in the board room of White Star Lines with Bruce Ismay, the
        President, telling the board that the Titanic is the greatest ship in the
        world. Some board members raise concerns over the expensive costs of building
        the ship.
        At the stock market, White Star Lines shares finish lower than expected because
        of the costs building the Titanic are seen as a drain upon the company. Ismay,
        who is the constant focus of the film as the major villain, says that the
        shares will rebound and they will make a big profits because he plans to have
        the Titanic run full speed across the Atlantic so that it will get the Blue
        Ribbon and they will reap enormous profits because it will have the reputation
        as the fastest ocean liner on the commercially lucrative Atlantic route.
        [In other Titanic movies Ismay does figure, but no where near as much as this
        1943 version, in which the story is mainly about his greed in running the
        Titanic too fast through the iceberg flows of the Atlantic. James Cameron's
        1998 version shows him telling the captain to spee
        • doda-elektroda itd 04.02.06, 11:41
          ale to już sami sobie znajdziecie
      • doda-elektroda szkoda że nie puszczą Nacht Fiel Uber Gotenhafen 04.02.06, 12:19
        z 1960 Wisbara. Może nie dokument, ale powiedzmy że para. No i byłoby a propos
        tego egipskiego promu.
        • valllia Re: szkoda że nie puszczą Nacht Fiel Uber Gotenha 05.02.06, 13:14
          Ja mysle, że rózne sugestie warto wrzucać do realizatorów programu KinoPolska.
          To bardzio otwarta na nowinki stacja. I na przykład dzień filmów i rozmów o
          katastrofach morskich - czemu by nie zasugesrować?....
          • sealion Re: szkoda że nie puszczą Nacht Fiel Uber Gotenha 09.02.06, 15:46
            Fajna rzecz ten blok programów o Gdyni. Szkoda że obejrzy go garstka ludzi.
            • binka jasny szlag!!!! 10.02.06, 10:06
              chciałam nagrać te filmy (część - te dokumentalne z komenatrzami), żeby potem
              mieć do pracy i okazało się, że wideo nie mam podłączone i nie umiem:-(((
              jakby kto to nagrywał - ja bardzo prosze o kontakt!
              • windyga Re: jasny szlag!!!! 10.02.06, 13:35
                nie zamartwiaj sie binko. Mam dobre wiesci. Ale jeszcze nie dziś;))
                • windyga Re: jasny szlag!!!! 10.02.06, 13:36
                  Wiecie juz, że UPC pod presja próśb widzów odblokowało na dziś w 3miescie kanał
                  dla wszystkich i KinoPolska może obejrzeć kazdy!!! No, to na wagary!
                  • sealion Re: jasny szlag!!!! 10.02.06, 14:06
                    Jakby ktoś nagrywał te programy na dvd niech da znać. Warto zrobić sobie kopie
                    na pamiątkę.
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