Kwasniewski on Kerry

IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 15.10.04, 01:08


Wall Street Journal



Kwasniewski on Kerry
October 13, 2004 ; Page A16

Regarding John Kerry's claim that he can do a better job of building
alliances, the Senator may want to have a chat with the Poles. After he
listened to the first U.S. Presidential debate, Polish President Aleksander
Kwasniewski had this to say to an interviewer from the Polish network TVN on
October 1:

"It is really sad that a Senator with 20 years of experience does not notice
the Polish input into the coalition and the Polish sacrifice. It is immoral.

"I don't think it's because of the lack of knowledge. But we have to set the
record straight. The coalition consists not only of the United States , Great
Britain and Australia . It is also about the participation of Polish,
Ukrainian, Bulgarian and Spanish troops who died in Iraq . It is something
immoral not to note the commitment which we embarked upon. We accepted this
challenge convinced that terrorism had to be fought, that we had to show
international solidarity and that Saddam Hussein was a threat to the world.

"In this sense we can talk about our disillusionment with the fact that the
attitude and sacrifice of these soldiers is being marginalized to such an
extent. But I think it is all due to the campaign and the certain message
that Senator Kerry, although not officially, tries to convey that he thinks
of a coalition locating the U.S. alongside Germany and France . That is to
say, countries opposing the current American stance on Iraq ."

Mr. Kwasniewski's anger suggests that maybe the issue in this U.S.
Presidential election isn't whether we'll have allies, but which ones they'll
be. As the Polish President says, Mr. Kerry seems to prize above all "
Germany and France ." Frankly, we prefer friends who act like friends, namely
the Poles and British.
    • Gość: !d Nov. 2 IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 15.10.04, 01:55
      From Terrorism to Tolerance

      By JIM HOAGLAND
      The Washington Post
      October 8, 2004

      The struggle that most Americans call the war on terrorism will be won by
      Muslims and lost by Muslims at its now-distant end. The U.S. role must
      progressively shrink to shaping the battlefield for that contest rather than
      waging the war as an American-run enterprise.

      This will be true whether Nov. 2 brings victory to George W. Bush or to John
      Kerry.

      The next administration will need to pursue a revised strategy that puts Muslim
      governments and institutions on the front line of a civil war within Islam that
      the United States was drawn into on Sept. 11, 2001.

      The mobilizing utility of the "war on terrorism" label has run its course. To
      continue to use it for rhetorical or organizational purposes would obscure the
      moral, political and social responsibilities that Muslim societies must now
      assume to cleanse themselves of fanatical fringe groups and ideologies.

      Terrorism, it has been widely argued, is a tactic rather than an actual enemy.

      Such sophistry obscures this essential point: Terrorism is a graphic expression
      of the intolerance that the Islamist fanatics preach, practice and
      • Gość: n0str0m0 trzecia wojna wirtualna IP: 202.172.58.* 15.10.04, 04:06
        "Launching a war against al Qaeda and other terrorism groups and their
        supporters was necessary"

        gdzie lezy alkaida?

        nostromo
        • pan.chuligan Gdzie lezy Al Quaida? 15.10.04, 05:29
          Jeszcze nie calkiem lezy, ale niedlugo bedzie. Wtedy sie zaznaczy dokladne
          polozenie.

          I tym optymistycznym akcentem koncze i pozostaje (etc., etc...)

          • Gość: n0str0m0 w latach 70' kapitalizm sie rozkladal IP: 202.172.58.* 15.10.04, 06:36
            a jakie to pozytywne objawy rozkladu alkajdy pan znalazl?

            nostromo
            • pan.chuligan Al Quaida - gdzie lezy, rozklad 15.10.04, 07:53
              Moim zdaniem jest tych objawow coraz wiecej, jesli chce sie szukac i analizowac
              sytuacje. Problem oczywiscie w interpretacji faktow, oraz generalnym punkcie
              spojrzenie na sprawe.

              Pozostaje...


              • Gość: n0str0m0 a bedzie objawow wiecej... IP: 202.172.58.* 15.10.04, 08:12
                tylko zaplute karly nie chca czekac na nie!

                a to co dzis widac
                to sa przejsciowe trudnosci
                w drodze do swietlanego dobrobytu

                powyzsze wykuc na pamiec
                na lata wystarczy

                nostromo
                • pan.chuligan Re: a bedzie objawow wiecej... 15.10.04, 08:34
                  Pic czy nie pic
                  jesli pic to do czego
                  lub do kogo
                  albo z kim...KIM...
                  JONG!!!
                  IL... ill?
                  SLONCE, NASZE...
                  slepi

                  jak bimber...

                  Na izust'!

                  P.S. Ale co to ma wspolnego z wypowiedzia Kwasniewskiego o Kerrym?

                  • Gość: n0str0m0 ma wspolnego wszystko IP: 202.172.58.* 15.10.04, 09:00
                    nie po to docent poslal tam zolnierzy
                    by mu sie kery w pijacki ryj smial
                    faktem jest ze busz tez mu pluje
                    ale kwach "zwyczajny takim rzeczom jest"

                    jak to w gieszeftach - to tylko mzawka

                    niepojete jest zas
                    jak latwo motloch zaakceptowal
                    neokolonializm usa

                    hasla
                    "lebensraum"
                    "alkajda"
                    sa z jednego slownika
                    taniej propagandy

                    nostromo
                    • pan.chuligan Re: ma wspolnego wszystko 15.10.04, 20:27
                      Ach, ten brak spostrzegawczosci i bezmyslnosc motlochu...

                      Ciezkie czasy, westchnal czerwonoarmista...

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