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Poles blamed for wartime massacres


As many as 1,600 Jews were killed in Jedwabne

At least 30 organised massacres of Jews in Poland during World War II were
carried out by local people rather than occupying German Nazis, a new report
has revealed.


It [report] brings to light information that was so far buried in the
archives and puts the facts in a broad perspective

Pawel Machcewicz, editor of the report
The investigation by Poland's Institute for National Remembrance (IPN) was
carried out after allegations made two years ago that Poles killed 1,600
Jews in the north-eastern village of Jedwabne in 1941.

The report - due to be published on Monday - says the Jedwabne pogrom was
not an isolated incident, and that hundreds of Jews were murdered in similar
attacks by Poles in more than 20 towns in the same region.

The evidence about the Jedwabne pogrom has shaken many Poles' view that they
were only victims during the war, as all the massacres had previously been
blamed on Nazi troops.

Buried information

The 1,500-page report "Around Jedwabne" lists the names of more than 100
murdered Jews and at least as many of suspected killers, according to
Rzechzpospolita newspaper, which saw a preview of the report.


About three million Polish Jews died in the Holocaust


IPN researchers dug out records from 1946-1958 investigations and trials and
translated written testimonies which survivors had given to a regional
Jewish history commission.

"It brings to light information that was so far buried in the archives and
puts the facts in a broad perspective," Pawel Machcewicz, editor of the
report, told the Associated Press news agency.

But Mr Machcewicz said it was hard to establish figures for the exact number
of Jews killed by Poles because of conflicting testimony and lack of other
evidence.

Cover-up

For decades, Polish communist authorities covered up the role of Poles in
the Jedwabne massacre, blaming Nazi killing squads for the murders.

But a book by Polish emigre historian Jan Gross "The Neighbours", published
in 2000, challenged the official version of events.

Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski made a historic apology for the
killings at a 60th anniversary ceremony in Jedwabne last year, but insisted
Germans were behind the pogrom.

After World War II, 12 people were convicted by a Polish communist court in
1949 for having helped the Germans carry out the killings.

They received sentences varying from 30 months to life in prison. One person
was executed.

    • Gość: +++Ignorant Wsadź se w dupę te żydowskie pomówienia i kalumnie IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 03.11.02, 05:11
      • Gość: baba Historia Oskarza IP: *.rdu.bellsouth.net 03.11.02, 05:19
        To IPN udokumentowal. Teraz trudno bedzie, nawet mnie, wsadzic to w dupe.
        Sorry. Maybe, its time for you to learn your nation's history too, eh?
        • jojo.tulacz Glupek ZYX oskarza, czyli klamie 03.11.02, 09:43
          Dlaczego oszuscie klamiesz, ze IPN udokumentowal mord 1600 Zydow?
          A jedno klamstwo pociaga inne.
          Nie z toba glupolu o tym dyskutowac, jak nie umiesz czytac.
          • =kapral= Ewidentnie kłamie, w tych sprawach 03.11.02, 15:06
            jojo.tulacz napisał:

            > Dlaczego oszuscie klamiesz, ze IPN udokumentowal mord 1600 Zydow?


            konieczna jest dokładność. Już od niemal dwu lat wiadomo, że ofiar w Jedwabnem było nie 1600, tylko 1640.

            Por. hasło "antysemityzm" opublikowane w I tomie Encyklopedii Religii PWN (2001).

            Na str.272 czytamy: "10 VII 1941 w Jedwabnem Polacy wymordowali 1640 żyd. sąsiadów".

            To hańba, że niby-specjaliści z IPN-u nie zechcieli zapoznać się z tym tak istotnym źródłem. Uniknęli by w swoich raportach żałosnych, tchnących na milę antysemityzmem prób relatywizacji zbrodni przez pomniejszanie liczby jej ofiar.

            To samo zastrzeżenie odnosi się też do materiału przytoczonego w pierwszym liście tego wątku.

            =
      • Gość: baba Historia Oskarza IP: *.rdu.bellsouth.net 03.11.02, 05:19
        To IPN udokumentowal. Teraz trudno bedzie, nawet mnie, wsadzic to w dupe.
        Sorry. Maybe, its time for you to learn your nation's history too, eh?
      • Gość: baba. Historia Oskarza IP: *.rdu.bellsouth.net 03.11.02, 05:20
        To IPN udokumentowal. Teraz trudno bedzie, nawet mnie, wsadzic to w dupe.
        Sorry. Maybe, its time for you to learn about your nation's history too, eh?
      • Gość: baba. Historia Oskarza IP: *.rdu.bellsouth.net 03.11.02, 05:20
        To IPN udokumentowal. Teraz trudno bedzie, nawet mnie, wsadzic to w dupe.
        Sorry. Maybe, its time for you to learn about your nation's history too, eh?
      • Gość: baba Historia Oskarza IP: *.rdu.bellsouth.net 03.11.02, 05:21
        To IPN udokumentowal. Teraz trudno bedzie, nawet mnie, wsadzic to w dupe.
        Sorry. Maybe, its time for you to learn your nation's history too, eh?
      • Gość: baba Historia Oskarza IP: *.rdu.bellsouth.net 03.11.02, 05:21
        To IPN udokumentowal. Teraz trudno bedzie, nawet mnie, wsadzic to w dupe.
        Sorry. Maybe, its time for you to learn your nation's history too, eh?
      • Gość: baba Historia Oskarza IP: *.rdu.bellsouth.net 03.11.02, 05:22
        To IPN udokumentowal. Teraz trudno bedzie, nawet mnie, wsadzic to w dupe.
        Sorry. Maybe, its time for you to learn your nation's history too, eh?
        • Gość: pollak Re: Historia Oskarza IP: *.jgora.dialog.net.pl 03.11.02, 15:10
          Gość portalu: baba napisał(a):

          > To IPN udokumentowal.

          Zyksior, ależ pierniczysz.

          > Teraz trudno bedzie, nawet mnie, wsadzic to w dupe.
          > Sorry. Maybe, its time for you to learn your nation's history too, eh?

          Fak ju men.
          smile
    • Gość: pollak Re: Swiat oskarza! IP: *.jgora.dialog.net.pl 03.11.02, 15:16
      Gość portalu: baba napisał(a):

      > Poles blamed for wartime massacres

      Bzdura!

      > As many as 1,600 Jews were killed in Jedwabne

      Co za kłamstwo.

      > At least 30 organised massacres of Jews in Poland during World War II were
      > carried out by local people rather than occupying German Nazis, a new report
      > has revealed.
      >
      >
      > It [report] brings to light information that was so far buried in the
      > archives and puts the facts in a broad perspective
      >
      > Pawel Machcewicz, editor of the report
      > The investigation by Poland's Institute for National Remembrance (IPN) was
      > carried out after allegations made two years ago that Poles killed 1,600
      > Jews in the north-eastern village of Jedwabne in 1941.

      Coś się komuś popieprzyło.

      [....]
      > For decades, Polish communist authorities covered up the role of Poles in
      > the Jedwabne massacre, blaming Nazi killing squads for the murders.
      >
      > But a book by Polish emigre historian Jan Gross "The Neighbours", published
      > in 2000, challenged the official version of events.

      Hahaha! No to już wiemy na czym ci idioci się opierają. Na kłamstwach
      tego Grossa. Do Grossa Gross i pełny trzos.
      • Gość: +++Ignorant Re: Swiat oskarza! IP: *.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl 04.11.02, 00:05
        Gość portalu: pollak napisał(a):

        > Gość portalu: baba napisał(a):
        >
        > > Poles blamed for wartime massacres
        >
        > Bzdura!
        >
        > > As many as 1,600 Jews were killed in Jedwabne
        >
        > Co za kłamstwo.
        >
        > > At least 30 organised massacres of Jews in Poland during World War II were
        >
        > > carried out by local people rather than occupying German Nazis, a new repo
        > rt
        > > has revealed.
        > >
        > >
        > > It [report] brings to light information that was so far buried in the
        > > archives and puts the facts in a broad perspective
        > >
        > > Pawel Machcewicz, editor of the report
        > > The investigation by Poland's Institute for National Remembrance (IPN) was
        >
        > > carried out after allegations made two years ago that Poles killed 1,600
        > > Jews in the north-eastern village of Jedwabne in 1941.
        >
        > Coś się komuś popieprzyło.
        >
        > [....]
        > > For decades, Polish communist authorities covered up the role of Poles in
        > > the Jedwabne massacre, blaming Nazi killing squads for the murders.
        > >
        > > But a book by Polish emigre historian Jan Gross "The Neighbours", publishe
        > d
        > > in 2000, challenged the official version of events.
        >
        > Hahaha! No to już wiemy na czym ci idioci się opierają. Na kłamstwach
        > tego Grossa. Do Grossa Gross i pełny trzos.

        Sława!

        A przytem posługują się metodą tego drugiego żyda specjalisty od kłamastwa
        Goebbelsa: "kłamstwo powtarzane wiele razy staje się prawdą"

        Pozdrawiam!

        Ignorant
        +++
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