Torturowanie dzieci - specjalność iracka

26.01.03, 21:24


Sunday June 23, 2002
The Observer

The witness against the government of Iraq walked stiffly into the room,
metal
callipers buckled to heavy medical shoes. They had tortured her two years
ago.
She is now four.
Her father had been suspected of involvement in a plot to kill Saddam
Hussein's
psychopathic son, Uday. He fled to the north of Iraq, but the secret police,
the mukhabarat, came for his wife, still in Baghdad, and tortured her. When
she
wouldn't break, they tortured 'Anna' in front of her.

Her father, 'Ali', is a thick-set Iraqi who worked in Saddam's privileged
inner
circle. He described what they did to her: 'They had a wooden stick. They
would
squeeze her feet and ask "Has Daddy called you?" - she understood - "Does
Daddy
contact you?"'

She is a victim of Saddam's brutality, proof that he is prepared to dispense
violence against even his country's children. By a cruel irony, her father is
also witness to Saddam's efforts to portray those same children as victims of
Western sanctions, which he claims have cost hundreds of thousands of young
lives.

Ali, outraged that Saddam's torturers may have crippled his daughter for
life,
spoke openly about how the regime's propaganda has faked mass baby funerals -
'evidence' of the 7,000 children under five the regime claims are being
killed
each month by sanctions.

Small coffins, decorated with grisly photographs of dead babies and their
ages -
'three days', 'four days', written usefully for the English-speaking media -
are paraded through the streets of Baghdad on the roofs of taxis, the
procession led by a throng of official mourners.

There is only one problem. Because there are not enough dead babies around,
the
regime prevents parents from burying infants immediately, in the Muslim
tradition, to create more powerful propaganda.

Anna was the youngest witness to child torture by the Iraqi government in an
investigation, The Mother of All Ironies, to be broadcast by BBC2's
Correspondent today. It found six other adult witnesses in the Kurdish safe
haven in the north - the only part of Iraq where people are free to speak.

The most chilling witness was one of Saddam's torturers, who was captured
spying against the Kurds this year. 'Kamal' told us: 'They would bring the
son
in front of his parents, who were handcuffed or tied, and would start off
with
simple methods of torture, such as cigarette burns. Then they started using
other methods of torture, more serious ones.

'They would tell the father that they'd slaughter his son, and they'd bring a
bayonet out, and if the parents didn't confess they'd kill the child. 'The
interrogator has the right to kill the child, or perform any other butchery,
whatever's necessary.' And then Kamal chuckled.



· John Sweeney's report will be shown in Correspondent on BBC2 at 7.15pm
today

    • Gość: bolek przestan powtarzac pierd...y amerykanow IP: *.kat.forthnet.gr 26.01.03, 21:57
      bo nikt w to nie wierzy ty przydupasko jedna.
      masz jeszczeokazje puki jest ta czarna malpa w europie
      skocz i szarpnij mu laske i spelnij sie.
      • Gość: . Re: przestan powtarzac pierd...y amerykanow IP: *.acn.waw.pl 26.01.03, 23:47
        Gość portalu: bolek napisał(a):

        > bo nikt w to nie wierzy ty przydupasko jedna.
        > masz jeszczeokazje puki jest ta czarna malpa w europie
        > skocz i szarpnij mu laske i spelnij sie.


        Znów się tu przywlokłeś czerwona obszczana pijaczyno z Grecji .
    • Gość: wikul Re: Torturowanie dzieci - specjalność iracka IP: *.acn.waw.pl 29.01.03, 01:44
      TVP nadała dzisiaj (ok.22.00) reportaż Milewicza z cyklu "Dziwny jest ten
      świat" . Pokazano m.in. zwłoki kurdyjskich dzieci zagazowanych przez wojska
      irackie przy pomocy bronii chemicznej . Coś potwornego .


    • Gość: U Re: Torturowanie dzieci - specjalność iracka IP: *.214.98.166.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net 29.01.03, 02:51
      Jakie to okrutne.W jedynej demokracji na Bl.Wsch.-harecu
      robia to bardziej humanitarnie.Odpalaja z merkavy pocisk
      wiekszy od dziecka.Szybko,bezbolesnie...
    • zwyczajny Nie tylko iracka, o podobnych metodach 30.01.03, 02:30
      w Syrii, Libii i Sudanie nieraz donosiła prasa juz kilka lat temu. Ale
      zawsze arabska propaganda za naftowe pieniądze szybko zakrzykiwali
      niezależnych reporterów.
    • Gość: Piort Re: Torturowanie dzieci - specjalność iracka IP: *.man.polbox.pl 30.01.03, 09:52
      Spędziłem kilka lat w krajach arabskich, w tym dwa w Iraku i byłem zaskoczony
      ich wyrozumiałością dla dzieci. Nie widziałem ani nie słyszałem aby ktoś
      uderzył dziecko, choć nieraz zachowują się równie okropnie jak europejskie. W
      każdej społeczności znajdą się osobniki o skłonnosciach sadystycznych, można
      sobie poczytać i w polskiej prasie o troturowaniu dzieci, można i o mordercach.
      Irakijczycy nie mogą odpowiadać za Sadama, a karanie tego biednego narodu za
      jego przywódcę jest skrajną niesprawiedliwością.
      • zwyczajny Re: Torturowanie dzieci - specjalność iracka 15.03.03, 01:49
        Gość portalu: Piort napisał(a):

        > Spędziłem kilka lat w krajach arabskich, w tym dwa w Iraku i byłem zaskoczony
        > ich wyrozumiałością dla dzieci. Nie widziałem ani nie słyszałem aby ktoś
        > uderzył dziecko, choć nieraz zachowują się równie okropnie jak europejskie.

        Polecam prace socjologow na temat traktowania dzieci, szczegolnie dziewczynek
        w krajach arabskich, a nie fantazjowanie.

        >W
        > każdej społeczności znajdą się osobniki o skłonnosciach sadystycznych, można
        > sobie poczytać i w polskiej prasie o troturowaniu dzieci, można i o
        mordercach.
        > Irakijczycy nie mogą odpowiadać za Sadama, a karanie tego biednego narodu za
        > jego przywódcę jest skrajną niesprawiedliwością.
        Ja też wierzę, ze Irak (ani zaden inny kraj) nie zasluzył na takiego sadystę i
        dlatego trzeba go obalic. Nie mówię juz o Kurdach i ich dzieciach mordowanych
        przez irackie wojska.

    • Gość: anty Mosiek zydziakom brak argumentow i nik im nie wierzy IP: *.rasserver.net 15.03.03, 02:27
      to wymyslaja bzdury - tak jak i coraz to nowe wersje przyczyny
      ataku na Iraq. Szmaty nowojorskie dzialaja.
    • Gość: babariba a pamiętacie taką wstrząsającą relację IP: *.sokolka.sdi.tpnet.pl 15.03.03, 02:53
      jednej kuwejckiej panienki o bezeceństwach, jaki z nią wyprawiali saddamowi siepacze podczas najazdu na Kuwejt???
      Czegoś potem okazało się, że "maltretowana" panienka była córką ambasadora Kuwejtu w USA, czy gdzieś tam, a opowieść powstała wyłącznie na użytek "niezależnych" mediów... smile))
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      bogumilka napisała:

      >
      >
      > Sunday June 23, 2002
      > The Observer
      >
      > The witness against the government of Iraq walked stiffly into the room,
      > metal
      > callipers buckled to heavy medical shoes. They had tortured her two years
      > ago.
      > She is now four.
      > Her father had been suspected of involvement in a plot to kill Saddam
      > Hussein's
      > psychopathic son, Uday. He fled to the north of Iraq, but the secret police,
      > the mukhabarat, came for his wife, still in Baghdad, and tortured her. When
      > she
      > wouldn't break, they tortured 'Anna' in front of her.
      >
      > Her father, 'Ali', is a thick-set Iraqi who worked in Saddam's privileged
      > inner
      > circle. He described what they did to her: 'They had a wooden stick. They
      > would
      > squeeze her feet and ask "Has Daddy called you?" - she understood - "Does
      > Daddy
      > contact you?"'
      >
      > She is a victim of Saddam's brutality, proof that he is prepared to dispense
      > violence against even his country's children. By a cruel irony, her father is
      > also witness to Saddam's efforts to portray those same children as victims of
      > Western sanctions, which he claims have cost hundreds of thousands of young
      > lives.
      >
      > Ali, outraged that Saddam's torturers may have crippled his daughter for
      > life,
      > spoke openly about how the regime's propaganda has faked mass baby funerals -
      > 'evidence' of the 7,000 children under five the regime claims are being
      > killed
      > each month by sanctions.
      >
      > Small coffins, decorated with grisly photographs of dead babies and their
      > ages -
      > 'three days', 'four days', written usefully for the English-speaking media -
      > are paraded through the streets of Baghdad on the roofs of taxis, the
      > procession led by a throng of official mourners.
      >
      > There is only one problem. Because there are not enough dead babies around,
      > the
      > regime prevents parents from burying infants immediately, in the Muslim
      > tradition, to create more powerful propaganda.
      >
      > Anna was the youngest witness to child torture by the Iraqi government in an
      > investigation, The Mother of All Ironies, to be broadcast by BBC2's
      > Correspondent today. It found six other adult witnesses in the Kurdish safe
      > haven in the north - the only part of Iraq where people are free to speak.
      >
      > The most chilling witness was one of Saddam's torturers, who was captured
      > spying against the Kurds this year. 'Kamal' told us: 'They would bring the
      > son
      > in front of his parents, who were handcuffed or tied, and would start off
      > with
      > simple methods of torture, such as cigarette burns. Then they started using
      > other methods of torture, more serious ones.
      >
      > 'They would tell the father that they'd slaughter his son, and they'd bring a
      > bayonet out, and if the parents didn't confess they'd kill the child. 'The
      > interrogator has the right to kill the child, or perform any other butchery,
      > whatever's necessary.' And then Kamal chuckled.
      >
      >
      >
      > ? John Sweeney's report will be shown in Correspondent on BBC2 at 7.15pm
      >
      > today
      >
    • Gość: O.B. Leaden Re: Torturowanie dzieci - specjalność iracka IP: *.telia.com 15.03.03, 10:21
      Skad te rewelacyjne wiadomosci? ,z CNN & BBC ?
      ________________________________________________________________________________
      • zwyczajny Zdaje się, ze to ogólnoarabska specjalność 23.03.03, 10:04
        jak wynika z ponizszego postu:

        Do miłośników kultury arabskiej
        Autor: Gość: lieutenant IP: *.poznan.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl
        Data: 19-03-2003 20:52 + odpowiedz na list

        Z relacji austriackich lekarzy w ramach ONZ
        Opowiadali o licznych przypadkach poparzonych dzieci.Gdy zainteresowali sie
        bliżej problemem okazało się ,że podczas kłotni,gdy Arab jest wskciekły na
        żonę to karał ją oblewając najstarszą córkę wrzątkiem.W Polsce też zdarzaja
        sie okrucieństwa wobec dzieci,ale jest to margines.Tam zas jest to czyn
        powszechnie stosowany i uznawany
    • Gość: Hansi Prymitywna propaganda, specjalność amerykańska! IP: *.dipool.highway.telekom.at 15.03.03, 18:21
      Podczas wojny o Kuwejt, media całego świata podawały, ze iraccy żołnierze
      wyrzucali niemowlęta w szpitalu z inkubatorów. Później wydało się ze
      informacja była zamówiona w jednej z agencji reklamowych.
      Pozdr. Hansi
    • zbik Re: Torturowanie dzieci - specjalność iracka 24.03.03, 04:59
      bogumilka napisała:

      >
      >
      > Sunday June 23, 2002
      > The Observer
      >
      > The witness against the government of Iraq walked stiffly into the room,
      > metal
      > callipers buckled to heavy medical shoes. They had tortured her two years
      > ago.
      > She is now four.
      > Her father had been suspected of involvement in a plot to kill Saddam
      > Hussein's
      > psychopathic son, Uday. He fled to the north of Iraq, but the secret police,
      > the mukhabarat, came for his wife, still in Baghdad, and tortured her. When
      > she
      > wouldn't break, they tortured 'Anna' in front of her.
      >
      > Her father, 'Ali', is a thick-set Iraqi who worked in Saddam's privileged
      > inner
      > circle. He described what they did to her: 'They had a wooden stick. They
      > would
      > squeeze her feet and ask "Has Daddy called you?" - she understood - "Does
      > Daddy
      > contact you?"'
      >
      > She is a victim of Saddam's brutality, proof that he is prepared to dispense
      > violence against even his country's children. By a cruel irony, her father
      is
      > also witness to Saddam's efforts to portray those same children as victims
      of
      > Western sanctions, which he claims have cost hundreds of thousands of young
      > lives.
      >
      > Ali, outraged that Saddam's torturers may have crippled his daughter for
      > life,
      > spoke openly about how the regime's propaganda has faked mass baby funerals -
      > 'evidence' of the 7,000 children under five the regime claims are being
      > killed
      > each month by sanctions.
      >
      > Small coffins, decorated with grisly photographs of dead babies and their
      > ages -
      > 'three days', 'four days', written usefully for the English-speaking media -
      > are paraded through the streets of Baghdad on the roofs of taxis, the
      > procession led by a throng of official mourners.
      >
      > There is only one problem. Because there are not enough dead babies around,
      > the
      > regime prevents parents from burying infants immediately, in the Muslim
      > tradition, to create more powerful propaganda.
      >
      > Anna was the youngest witness to child torture by the Iraqi government in an
      > investigation, The Mother of All Ironies, to be broadcast by BBC2's
      > Correspondent today. It found six other adult witnesses in the Kurdish safe
      > haven in the north - the only part of Iraq where people are free to speak.
      >
      > The most chilling witness was one of Saddam's torturers, who was captured
      > spying against the Kurds this year. 'Kamal' told us: 'They would bring the
      > son
      > in front of his parents, who were handcuffed or tied, and would start off
      > with
      > simple methods of torture, such as cigarette burns. Then they started using
      > other methods of torture, more serious ones.
      >
      > 'They would tell the father that they'd slaughter his son, and they'd bring
      a
      > bayonet out, and if the parents didn't confess they'd kill the child. 'The
      > interrogator has the right to kill the child, or perform any other butchery,
      > whatever's necessary.' And then Kamal chuckled.
      >
      >
      >
      > · John Sweeney's report will be shown in Correspondent on BBC2 at 7.15pm
      >
      > today
      >
      Ale to podoba sie polsko mowiacym wypierdkom z USA tym qres.kim polskim
      szynkom i arabkom z Krakowa.
    • bogumilka Teraz prawda o irackiej bezpiece wychodzi na jaw 04.04.03, 23:19
      Na wyzwolonych prze koalicje terenach Iraku, znajduja miejsca
      gdzie przeciwnicy reżimu byli torturowani
      • Gość: bogumilka Re: Teraz prawda o irackiej bezpiece wychodzi na IP: *.acn.waw.pl 05.04.03, 03:11
    • Gość: i Juz sa w Bagdadzie ,aj waj Allach miezyczliwy . IP: 80.230.75.* 05.04.03, 11:31
      Dla Sadama i spolki.
      • zwyczajny Ale hitlerka-huSSajna już w Bagdadzie nie ma, 06.04.03, 18:10
        ale islamskie naiwniaki jeszcze się biją. Pewnie bardzo chcą do raju?
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