Niepelna lista ,...

20.11.08, 19:37

Minelo 10 miesiecy od otwarcia archiwum a w Yad Vashem nadal
bez zmian co znaczy ze dalej nie moga sie doszukac prawie 3
milionow ofiar do uzupelnienia 6-ciu i tu chcialbym zapytac ,
co im teraz stoi na drodze ??? ,...
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US researchers open up world's largest Holocaust archive
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US News - Jan 17, 2008

Washington - Millions of documents from a long-restricted Holocaust
archive in Germany opened to the public Thursday at a Washington
museum, marking a victory for Nazi-era survivors after years of
tense international negotiations ,...

www.monstersandcritics.com/news/usa/news/article_1387369.php/US_researchers_open_up_worlds_largest_Holocaust_archive
    • dana33 Re: Niepelna lista ,... 20.11.08, 20:17
      ty jak zwykle, splitowski.... i wiadomosc sprzed roku praktycznie i
      link sie nie otwiera...
      tu masz nowsze wiadomosci i link, ktory ci sie otworzy:

      Documenting death. So far, two thirds of the archive has been
      scanned. Yet genealogists and historians hoping for quick answers
      may be in for a letdown. Though the Nazis were enthusiastic
      recordkeepers, their crimes took place in more than a dozen
      countries, and victims spoke every language on the continent.

      Belzec, a German concentration camp in what is now southeastern
      Poland, was one of the Nazis' most efficient killing machines.
      Between March 17, 1942, and December 1942, at least half a million
      Jews were gassed and incinerated there, usually within hours of
      their arrivals.
      www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070513/21archives_4.htm
      nie wiem, jak ty z matematyka.... mozliwe ze tak samo slabo, jak z
      dokopywaniem zydom... ale jesli niemcom udalo sie tylko z belzcu
      zamordowac conajmniej pol miliona zydow w ciagu 10 miesiecy, to
      postaraj sie zrobic gruby rachunek, ilu zydow mogli zamordowac we
      wszystkich obozach razem.
      nu, a jak ci sie nie uda, to bedziesz musial poczekac jeszcze na
      koncowe wyniki badan dokumentow w bad arolsen.
      a potem jak sie okaze, ze wyniki beda dla ciebie za wysokie i bedzie
      tam np 6 000 003,75 zyda, to zawsze mozesz jeszcze podliczyc sam...
      moze jednak ktos tam sprobowal ciebie nabic w butelke...
      • oleg3 Do licha 20.11.08, 20:37
        musiałem coś przegapić.

        dana33 napisała:
        > a potem jak sie okaze, ze wyniki beda dla ciebie za wysokie i
        > bedzie tam np 6 000 003,75 zyda,

        Od kiedy wolno liczyć ofiary Holokaustu?
        Ile to ja się naczytałem jaki to antysemityzm taka matematyka. Już nie jest?
        • dana33 Re: Do licha 20.11.08, 21:13
          ty przewazniesz przegapiasz, olegu.
          to byla odpowiedz dla splitowskiego, ktory wlasnie liczy i doliczyc
          sie nie moze.
      • spitt Re: Niepelna lista ,... 20.11.08, 21:16

        Masz cala ,...

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        Washington - Millions of documents from a long-restricted Holocaust
        archive in Germany opened to the public Thursday at a Washington
        museum, marking a victory for Nazi-era survivors after years of
        tense international negotiations.

        Nearly 70 million scanned copies of camp, transport, ghetto, arrest
        and name records are now available to victims, family members and
        researchers at the US Holocaust Memorial Museum. The remaining 30
        million images, on slave labour and Allied displaced-person camps,
        are to be transferred in stages by 2010.

        In all, the now-opened International Tracing Service (ITS) in Bad
        Arolsen, Germany, has records on some 17.5 million Nazi victims,
        Jews and non-Jews.

        Pressed by Jewish groups and the US government, countries overseeing
        the collection agreed last year to give copies to institutions in
        the US, Israel and Poland.

        'These millions of documents open a new window on the daily fate of
        people who were targeted by the Nazis and their allies,' said Paul
        Shapiro, the museum's head of research.

        'Often they reveal not grand strategy ... but the grinding routine
        of man's inhumanity to man, of a prisoner's effort to survive just
        one more day,' he said.

        On Thursday, the Washington museum said it was ready to begin
        providing information from the archive.

        Set up by the victorious Allies after World War II and formally
        administered by 11 Western nations since 1955, the ITS was virtually
        off-limits for more than five decades.

        Even today, piecing together a victim's fate under the Nazis
        requires painstaking, time-consuming searches through name records,
        file cards and German documents.

        In a key breakthrough, the German government in April 2006 dropped
        objections on privacy grounds to opening the archive. A month later,
        the other 10 countries followed suit.

        'Opening the archive wasn't easy. It required convincing governments
        that were not inclined to act that they had to act,' Shapiro told
        reporters.

        Privacy grounds were cited as a prime reason for restricting access
        to Bad Arolsen. But critics blamed indifference by European
        governments and alleged fears by some of them that the documents
        could expose Nazi collaborators.

        The new ITS material will also add to the collection at Yad Vashem,
        Israel's national Holocaust memorial, which has had microfilmed
        copies of part of the tracing archive since the 1950s.

        Since the ITS documents are not machine-searchable, people who want
        to see them have to fill out an online form. Victims of Nazi slave
        and forced labour will be among those whose requests will get
        priority, Shapiro said.

        Jewish representatives and US members of Congress say opening the
        archive was important also to combat resurgent anti-Semitism and
        Holocaust denial, including statements by Iranian President Mahmoud
        Ahmadinejad.

        'With the rise of Holocaust denial in recent years, we really
        determined to do an all-out effort to open this archive and to give
        to survivors and their families what had been so long overdue,' said
        Sara Bloomfield, head of the US Holocaust museum.


        © 2008 dpa - Deutsche Presse-Agentur
        • dana33 Re: Niepelna lista ,... 20.11.08, 22:07
          nie krec, splitowski... linku nie dales, no i wiadomosc sprzed roku..
          ja mam nowsza i dokladniejsza.... poczytaj sobie...
          wode lejesz dzisiaj w nie wiem ilu watkach... biegunke zydowska
          dostales, czy co?
          • g-48 Re: Niepelna lista ,...Dana farbowana. 20.11.08, 22:23
            A ty farbowana masz dane zsprzed 60lat.Ale jak chcesz to ciebie i
            twoj orszak dopisze tez do holoklajstru.
          • spitt Re: Niepelna lista ,... 20.11.08, 23:09

            Toz o to chodzi ze sprzed roku , durna - Do innych materialow macie
            dostep przez ponad 2 lata i co z tego ??? ,...

            Darliscie mordy ze lista Yad Vashem niepelna bo wam wzbraniaja
            dostepu do materialow , nu teraz juz wam nie wzbraniaja od prawie
            roku (do wszystkich) i dalej nie mozecie sie doliczyc prawie polowy
            tych 6-ciu milionow ,...
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            nie krec, splitowski... linku nie dales, no i wiadomosc sprzed
            roku.. ja mam nowsza i dokladniejsza.... poczytaj sobie...
            • dana33 Re: Niepelna lista ,... 20.11.08, 23:39
              gdziesmy to darli mordy, splitowski?
              duza czesc aktow z bad arolsen sa w yad vashem od lat...
              bywam tam dosc czesto.... w zeszlym roku dostalismy reszte i albo
              juz jest dostepna, albo bedzie wkrotce.
              a te, co juz sa od dawna to przegladalam osobiscie wiele razy.

              Yad Vashem received many of the Bad Arolsen files decades ago in the
              absence of any cross-national legislation
              www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=289&pageid=&pagename=


              szurniety jestes niezle, splitowski....
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