Dzisiaj w USA święto dziękczynienia

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W związku z tym świętem symbolizującym wytrwałość i długowieczność tego tak
wspaniałego narodu życzę naszym sojusznikom wszystkiego najlepszego i wiele,
wiele lat w roli tak ważnego i rozważnego przywódcy świata.

Smacznego indyka

    • Gość: Józef Zawadzki Historia "Thanksgiving"- IP: *.pld.com 27.11.03, 14:49
      www.theholidayspot.com/thanksgiving/history.htm
      The story of Thanksgiving is basically the story of the Pilgrims and their
      thankful community feast at Plymouth, Massachusetts.
      The Pilgrims, who set sail from Plymouth, England on a ship called the
      Mayflower on September 6, 1620, were fortune hunters, bound for the
      resourceful 'New World'. The Mayflower was a small ship crowded with men, women
      and children, besides the sailors on board. Aboard were passengers comprising
      the 'separatists', who called themselves the "Saints", and others, whom the
      separatists called the "Strangers".
      After land was sighted in November following 66 days of a lethal voyage, a
      meeting was held and an agreement of truce was worked out. It was called the
      Mayflower Compact. The agreement guaranteed equality among the members of the
      two groups. They merged together to be recognized as the "Pilgrims." They
      elected John Carver as their first governor.
      Although Pilgrims had first sighted the land off Cape Cod, Massachusetts, they
      did not settle until they arrived at a place called Plymouth. It was Captain
      John Smith who named the place after the English port-city in 1614 and had
      already settled there for over five years. And it was there that the Pilgrims
      finally decided to settle. Plymouth offered an excellent harbor and plenty of
      resources. The local Indians were also non-hostile.

      But their happiness was short-lived. Ill-equipped to face the winter on this
      estranged place they were ravaged thoroughly.

      Somehow they were saved by a group of local Native Americans who befriended
      them and helped them with food. Soon the natives taught the settlers the
      technique to cultivate corns and grow native vegetables, and store them for
      hard days. By the next winter they had raised enough crops to keep them alive.
      The winter came and passed by without much harm. The settlers knew they had
      beaten the odds and it was time to celebrate.

      They celebrated it with a grand community feast wherein the friendly native
      Americans were also invited. It was kind of a harvest feast, the Pilgrims used
      to have in England. The recipes entail "corn" (wheat, by the Pilgrims usage of
      the word), Indian corn, barley, pumpkins and peas, "fowl"
      (specially "waterfowl"), deer, fish. And yes, of course the yummy wild turkey.
      However, the third year was real bad when the corns got damaged. Pilgrim
      Governor William Bradford ordered a day of fasting and prayer, and rain
      happened to follow soon. To celebrate - November 29th of that year was
      proclaimed a day of thanksgiving. This date is believed to be the real
      beginning of the present Thanksgiving Day.
      Though the Thanksgiving Day is presently celebrated on the fourth Thursday of
      every November. This date was set by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1939
      (approved by Congress in 1941). Earlier it was the last Thursday in November as
      was designated by the former President Abraham Lincoln. But sometimes the last
      Thursday would turn out to be the fifth Thursday of the month. This falls too
      close to the Christmas, leaving the businesses even less than a month's time to
      cope up with the two big festivals. Hence the change.

    • Gość: Indyk Re: Dzisiaj w USA święto dziękczynienia IP: *.vnet.pl / *.waw.cdp.pl 27.11.03, 14:50
      Dziękuję
      • Gość: Jozef Zawadzki Re: Dzisiaj w USA święto dziękczynienia IP: *.pld.com 27.11.03, 14:52
        Nie ma za co. To bylo szczere od serca!
    • o.rany Smcznego indyka:-) 27.11.03, 15:57
    • Gość: cv Re: Prawda o "święcie" dziękczynienia IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 27.11.03, 18:11
      The Truth About Thanksgiving

      The year was 1637.....700 men, women and children of the Pequot Tribe,
      gathered for their "Annual Green Corn Dance" in the area that is now known as
      Groton, Conn. While they were gathered in this place of meeting, they were
      surrounded and attacked by mercernaries of the English and Dutch. The Indians
      were ordered from the building and as they came forth, they were shot down.
      The rest were burned alive in the building. The next day, the Governor of the
      Massachusetts Bay Colony declared : "A Day of Thanksgiving", thanking God that
      they had eliminited over 700 men, women and children. For the next 100 years,
      every "Thanksgiving Day" ordained by a Governor or President was to honor that
      victory, thanking God that the battle had been won.
      www.angelfire.com/ny/RedBird/ThanksTruth.html

      The Following text was taken from Russel Means' autobiography entitled :

      "Where White Men Fear To Tread"

      "When we met with the Wampanoag people, they told us that in researching the
      history of Thanksgiving, they had confirmed the oral history passed down
      through their generations. Most Americans know that Massasoit, Chief of the
      Wampanoag, had welcomed the so-called Pilgrim Fathers-and the seldom mentioned
      Pilgrim Mothers-to the shores where his people had lived for millennia. The
      Wampanoag taught the European colonists how to live in our hemisphere by
      showing them what wild foods they could gather, how, where, and what crops to
      plant, and how to harvest, dry, and preserve them.

      The Wampanoag now wanted to remind white America of what had happened after
      Massasoit's death. Massasoit was succeeded by his son, Metacomet, whom the
      colonists called "King" Philip. In 1675-1676, to show "gratitude" for what
      Massasoit's people had done for their fathers and grandfathers, the Pilgrims
      manufactured an incident as a pretext to justify disarming the Wampanoag.

      The whites went after the Wampanoag with guns, swords, cannons, and torches.
      Most, including Metacomet, were butchered. His wife and son were sold into
      slavery in the West Indies. His body was hideously drawn and quartered.

      For twenty-five years afterward, Metacomet's skull was displayed on a pike
      above the whites' village. The real legacy of the Pilgrim Fathers is
      treachery. Most Americans today believe that Thanksgiving celebrates a boar
      harvest, but that is not so.

      By 1970, the Wampanoag had turned up a copy of a Thanksgiving proclamation
      made by the governor of the colony, the text revealed the ugly truth: After a
      colonial militia had returned from murdering the men, women, and children of
      an Indian village, the governor proclaimed a holiday and feast to give thanks
      for the massacre. He encouraged other colonies to do likewise-in other words,
      every autumn the crops are in, go kill Indians and celebrate your murders with
      a feast.

      The Wampanoag we met at Plymouth came from everywhere in Massachusetts. Like
      many other eastern nations, theirs had been all but wipe out. The survivors
      found refuge in other Indian nations that had not succumbed to European
      diseases or to violence. The Wampanoag went into hiding or joined the Six
      Nations or found homes among the Delaware Shawnee nations, to name a few. Some
      also sought refuge in one of the two hundred eastern-seaboard nations that
      were later exterminated.

      Nothing remains of those nations but their names, and even some of those have
      been lost. Other Wampanoag, who couldn't reach another Indian nation, survived
      by intermarriage with black slaves or freedmen. It is hard to imagine a life
      terrible enough that people would choose instead, with all their progeny, to
      become slaves, but that is exactly what some Indians did."

      www.btigerlily.net/BTTheTruthAboutThanksgiving.html

      Is Thanksgiving A Satanic Ritual?

      If you observe carefully the progression of events from the establishing of
      the United States until the war in Iraq, moving into the future devastation -
      as yet unseen - it is evident that the same events are being played out again
      and again. Unknown and hidden from you, the events you are celebrating today
      are no different from Satanic Rites performed by secret organizations planning
      your demise.

      "Those Indians who were not shot down were burned alive in the building." The
      next day - to celebrate this brutal murder - a day of Thanksgiving was
      declared! All of America bases its psychological and emotional existence on
      events in which the white Christian colonisers murder people of "lesser
      races". Today in Iraq, US citizens, with the official title of "Soldiers", are
      now slaughtering and burning Iraqi women and children. Have a nice
      Thanksgiving holiday!

      P.S. World history is a reptillian ritual lasting over many millennia. The
      question is - and you can ponder it over your Turkey dinner - If the Chinese
      will celebrate a new form of Thanksgiving after they will have invaded the USA
      one day?

      StC.

      • Gość: Jozef Zawadzki Spadaj z tymi klamstwami IP: *.ip.mcleodusa.net 27.11.03, 19:25
        Kazdy wie ze Amerykanie zaopiekowali sie Induanami.

    • Gość: Zielony Kapturek God Bless USA panie Jozefie:-) IP: 5.5.* / 80.58.5.* 27.11.03, 20:49
    • Gość: cv Re: Dzisiaj w USA święto dziękczynienia IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 28.11.03, 12:25
      ????
    • Gość: U Re: Dzisiaj w USA święto dziękczynienia IP: *.75.50.42.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net 28.11.03, 17:11
      Najwiecej radochy sprawil mi busharon,kiedy ulaskawial turka.Turek byl
      niewinny,ale wzial i ulaskawil.Chyba krewniak.Zupelnie,jak z Irakiem.Wyzwala
      narod,ktory moze wyzwolic przez odpier...nie sie od niego i zapowiedzial,ze ta
      akcja nie ma konca.
      Potem przelecial ocean,zeby dokonac aktu kanibalizmu i wcial innego turka,ktory
      chyba nie zasluzyl na ulaskawienie.Usilowalem sie dopatrzec obecnosci choc
      jednego thanksgiving Irakijczyka,ale bez sukcesu.
      Jakie to wszysto jest poj...ne....Sztuczna historia,sztuczna demokracja,glupawy
      caudillo wycinajacy sztuczki jak blazen cyrkowy.....
    • Gość: Jozef Zawadzki Mam nadzieje ze wszyscy rodacy w USA mieli IP: *.hltw13.local / 193.171.250.* 28.11.03, 18:01
      Wspaniale swieto w tym wspanialym kraju naszego sojusznika
      • Gość: patolog Re: Mam nadzieje ze wszyscy rodacy w USA mieli IP: *.wbrmfd01.mi.comcast.net 29.11.03, 01:04
        To ,ze Yossif Za- wacki to moron , zadna nowian. Ale ty "U" na cholere siedzisz
        w Bostonie, jak ci sie tu nie podoba. Przelec przez W-wa do Pheniajnu i tam
        ciesz sie zyciem. Zwiewaj z tej Hameryki , bo cie jeszcze INS " nakryje" i
        odstawi na Guantanamo.
    • perk JUNE 20, 1676 29.11.03, 02:46
      Harvest in summer, shithead?

      ...It certainly bespeaks our positive Thankfulness, ...the present Warr with
      the Heathen Natives of this land...reserving many of our Towns from Desolation
      Threatened, and attempted by the Enemy,...The Council has thought meet to
      appoint and set apart the 29th day of this instant June, as a day of Solemn
      Thanksgiving and praise to God for such his Goodness and Favour...


      THE FIRST THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATION
      JUNE 20, 1676

      "The Holy God having by a long and Continual Series of his Afflictive
      dispensations in and by the present Warr with the Heathen Natives of this land,
      written and brought to pass bitter things against his own Covenant people in
      this wilderness, yet so that we evidently discern that in the midst of his
      judgements he hath remembered mercy, having remembered his Footstool in the day
      of his sore displeasure against us for our sins, with many singular Intimations
      of his Fatherly Compassion, and regard; reserving many of our Towns from
      Desolation Threatened, and attempted by the Enemy, and giving us especially of
      late with many of our Confederates many signal Advantages against them, without
      such Disadvantage to ourselves as formerly we have been sensible of, if it be
      the Lord's mercy that we are not consumed, It certainly bespeaks our positive
      Thankfulness, when our Enemies are in any measure disappointed or destroyed;
      and fearing the Lord should take notice under so many Intimations of his
      returning mercy, we should be found an Insensible people, as not standing
      before Him with Thanksgiving, as well as lading him with our Complaints in the
      time of pressing Afflictions:
      The Council has thought meet to appoint and set apart the 29th day of this
      instant June, as a day of Solemn Thanksgiving and praise to God for such his
      Goodness and Favour, many Particulars of which mercy might be Instanced, but we
      doubt not those who are sensible of God's Afflictions, have been as diligent to
      espy him returning to us; and that the Lord may behold us as a People offering
      Praise and thereby glorifying Him; the Council doth commend it to the
      Respective Ministers, Elders and people of this Jurisdiction; Solemnly and
      seriously to keep the same Beseeching that being perswaded by the mercies of
      God we may all, even this whole people offer up our bodies and soulds as a
      living and acceptable Service unto God by Jesus Christ."


    • Gość: Tomson [...] IP: *.ds.pg.gda.pl / *.ds.pg.gda.pl 29.11.03, 02:56
      Wiadomość została usunięta ze względu na złamanie prawa lub regulaminu.
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