Gratualcje dla Subaru, informacja dla wszystkich

05.03.05, 20:17
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"Subaru, the Japanese automaker known for its all-wheel-drive vehicles, won
the top spot for the highest-quality brand among new cars in Consumer
Reports' annual automotive issue.

The magazine's annual survey of product quality and performance, which hits
newsstands Tuesday but has already gone to subscribers, ranks Japanese and
South Korean automakers tops for quality. U.S. brands are second but fall
below the industry average, and Europeans rank a distant third.

Subaru jumped 16 places to become the most reliable automotive brand overall
for 2004 models. It's the first time Subaru finished in the top spot in the
26 years Consumer Reports has conducted the survey.

Subaru owners reported eight problems per 100 cars and SUVs sold — an 8%
problem rate. Honda was the second-highest-rated brand at 9%, and Toyota took
third at 10%. Lexus, last year's leader, fell to fourth with an 11% rate.

In another surprise, the magazine found South Korean automaker Hyundai Motor
Co.'s mid-size Sonata sedan to be the most reliable car in the U.S. last
year, with just two problems reported for every 100 cars sold.

"That's quite dramatic and shows that Hyundai has really made a big effort,"
said David Champion, Consumer Reports' auto testing director. "It used to be
a joke to have Hyundai and reliability in the same sentence."

Last year's reliability champ was Toyota Motor Corp.'s Lexus GS sedan.

"With Subaru and Hyundai doing so well, we have two newcomers pushing the
others to do even better," Champion said.

The magazine's quality ratings are based on surveys from 810,000 vehicle
owners. Subscribers were asked to report problems in 17 areas, such as engine
or bodywork troubles, for vehicles up to 8 years old.

As for the U.S. automakers, they keep drawing closer to their Asian rivals
but never quite catch up. The best U.S. brands — Ford, which ranked ninth,
and Pontiac, 10th — had 15 problems per 100 vehicles for 2004 models, more
than twice Subaru's rate. Audi was the best from Europe, with a 12% problem
rate.

The industry average for 2004 model vehicles was a 16% problem rate, compared
with 17% a year earlier.

As a group, Asian brands averaged 12 problems per 100 vehicles, a score
unchanged for three years. It wasn't all glory, though. Nissan Motor Co.,
hobbled by glitches with the Titan pickup, the Armada SUV and the Quest
minivan built at its new Mississippi plant, fell well below the average with
a 19% problem rate.

Several brands were not rated because of insufficient responses, the magazine
said.

Domestic brands fell just below the industry mean, averaging 17 problems per
100 vehicles sold, an improvement from 18 last year. "They've been getting a
little more reliable year after year," Champion said.

European passenger vehicle brands continued dragging the bottom with a 21%
problem rate, slightly worse than the previous survey's 20%.

Of about 160 models surveyed, the worst reliability scores, with 49 problems
per 100 vehicles, were tallied by two behemoth vehicles: Ford Motor Co.'s
Lincoln Navigator SUV and the Nissan Quest minivan.

This is the second consecutive year U.S. brands outscored European makes. The
European automakers, long plagued by problems with complex electrical
systems, have been further hurt by quality problems with their SUVs, Champion
said.

Volkswagen's Touareg, for instance, had one of the worst results in the
survey, with 48 problems reported per 100 vehicles. Porsche's Cayenne, which
shares the same vehicle platform, had 41 problems per 100. BMW's X5 and
DaimlerChrysler's Mercedes-Benz M-Class SUV, the Mercedes E-Class sedan and
Volkswagen's New Beetle also scored far below average in reliability.

In a separate satisfaction survey, Consumer Reports asked subscribers whether
they would buy the same car or truck again. The magazine said it received
more than 250,000 responses.

In this category, the Toyota Prius gas-electric hybrid topped the list — a
first for a hybrid — with 94% of owners saying they would repeat. Last year's
leader, the Lexus LS430 sedan, dropped into second place with a 92% positive
response.

Of 32 vehicles on the magazine's "most satisfying" list, 25 are Japanese
models, six are European, and only one, General Motors Corp.'s Chevrolet
Corvette, is a domestic model.

The survey shows that satisfaction and quality don't always mesh: The
reliable Hyundai Sonata doesn't appear on the list of most satisfying
vehicles, but the Nissan Titan pickup, which received poor reliability
scores, does.

In another first for hybrids, Consumer Reports named the 2005 Honda Accord
Hybrid as its best pick for a family sedan. The hybrid uses a V-6 engine and
an electric drive system to provide enhanced performance with the fuel
economy of a four-cylinder car."

Z mojej strony jedna uwaga - od przeszło 8 lat jeżdzę produkcją niemiecką
średniej klasy (5 samochodów (VW, Audi) ale trzy jednego typu) i każdy
kolejny coraz gorszy. Przy następnym aucie naprawdę się zastanowię.
    • franek-b Re: Gratualcje dla Subaru, informacja dla wszystk 05.03.05, 21:41
      > Subaru owners reported eight problems per 100 cars and SUVs sold — an 8%
      > problem rate. Honda was the second-highest-rated brand at 9%, and Toyota took
      > third at 10%. Lexus, last year's leader, fell to fourth with an 11% rate.

      Japonce sa niesamowici!

      > In another surprise, the magazine found South Korean automaker Hyundai Motor
      > Co.'s mid-size Sonata sedan to be the most reliable car in the U.S. last
      > year, with just two problems reported for every 100 cars sold.

      Calkiem zasluzenie, dlugo pracuja na ten wynik.

      > Volkswagen's Touareg, for instance, had one of the worst results in the
      > survey, with 48 problems reported per 100 vehicles. Porsche's Cayenne, which
      > shares the same vehicle platform, had 41 problems per 100. BMW's X5 and
      > DaimlerChrysler's Mercedes-Benz M-Class SUV, the Mercedes E-Class sedan and
      > Volkswagen's New Beetle also scored far below average in reliability.

      To jest zdumiewajace... zwlaszcza rozczarowuje porsche, raz im romans z vw
      odbijal sie dlugo czkawka (944). Jestem ciekawy jak dlugo jeszcze merc bedzie
      jechal na swojej renomie.

      > Z mojej strony jedna uwaga - od przeszło 8 lat jeżdzę produkcją niemiecką
      > średniej klasy (5 samochodów (VW, Audi) ale trzy jednego typu) i każdy
      > kolejny coraz gorszy. Przy następnym aucie naprawdę się zastanowię.

      A nad czym sie tu zastanawiac?
    • chris62 Re: Gratualcje dla Subaru, informacja dla wszystk 07.03.05, 10:19
      Doświadczenia sportowe procentują ot co.
      Sprawdziło sie w warunkach ekstremalnych to sprawdzi się tym lepiej w wersji
      cywilnej. Dlatego takie auta co nie startują w rajdach, wyścigach dla mnie nie
      istnieją.
      W przypadku Subaru szkoda tylko, że nie ma nic ciekawego w segmencie aut
      popularnych bo na codzienny użytek niewielu potrzebuje wersję WRX, której wadą
      jest cena.
      • niknejm Re: Gratualcje dla Subaru, informacja dla wszystk 07.03.05, 20:04
        chris62 napisał:

        > W przypadku Subaru szkoda tylko, że nie ma nic ciekawego w segmencie aut
        > popularnych bo na codzienny użytek niewielu potrzebuje wersję WRX, której wadą
        > jest cena.

        No jak nie ma? A np. wersje Imprezy z silnikiem 2.0 bez turbo?

        Pzdr
        Niknejm
        • paul_78 Re: Gratualcje dla Subaru, informacja dla wszystk 08.03.05, 09:45
          Akurat Impreza GX nie jest zbyt ciekawa z tego względu, że za tę cenę jest spory
          wybór innych autek. Poza tym to Impreza bez turbo to nie to samo. Ale jest
          przecież Forester 2.0 w całkiem dostępnej cenie.
          Ja na razie odkładam na Legacy 2.5.. Ech, nie ma to jak prawdziwy samochód,
          zwłaszcza na ten pieprzony śnieg.
        • chris62 Re: Gratualcje dla Subaru, informacja dla wszystk 08.03.05, 19:26
          Wersja 2.0 byłaby atrakcyjna gdyby zamiast 125 KM miała jakieś 160 jak Honda np.
          zwłaszcza, że napęd 4x4 potrzebuje mocy żeby wykorzystać jego zalety.
          No a cena tego auta dorównuje Accordowi z segmentu wyżej więc trudno uznać tą
          ofertę za ciekawą w mojej subiektywnej ocenie.
          • gtrfreak Re: Gratualcje dla Subaru, informacja dla wszystk 08.03.05, 20:04
            Standardowy silnik Imprezy na rynek USDM 2.5 165 HP.
            • swoboda_t My Polacy to jednak mało wiemy o motorach Subaru 08.03.05, 21:18
              www.subaru-glyfadas.gr/prices-imp.html Polecam wizytę, klikając na
              poszczególne modele można zobaczyć dane techniczne. Ceny jednakże wysokie. W
              Niemczech (z reimportu UE,znalezione na autoscout24.de) można mieć nową Imprezę
              1,6 TS za 15 tysięcy euro i to z klimą!
          • niknejm Re: Gratualcje dla Subaru, informacja dla wszystk 08.03.05, 20:09
            Zgadzam się całkowicie, zresztą już o tym pisałem. Coś za coś... Albo samochód
            z segmentu wyżej i o lepszej dynamice (Accord) albo napęd 4X4 (Impreza).

            Pzdr
            Niknejm
    • x-darekk-x Re: Gratualcje dla Subaru, informacja dla wszystk 07.03.05, 10:31
      wcale nie jestem zaskoczony. moj ojciec przez pare lat jezdzil subaru i o jego
      trwalosci nadal opowiadamy legendy przy rodzinnym stole. :)

      uwazam, ze na duze gratulacje zasluguje hyundai, ktory na prawde robi juz
      wyjatkowo niezawodne samochody. koreanska motoryzacja to kalka japonii sprzed
      dekady lub dwoch. skromne stylistycznie, malo odwazne technologicznie, ale
      najwyzszej jakosci w kategorii niezawodnosci. obawiam sie, ze japonia ze swoimi
      fabrykami np. w turcji moze utracic palme pierwszenstwa w tej dziedzinie.
      • wowo5 Re: Gratualcje dla Subaru, informacja dla wszystk 09.03.05, 03:52
        Cieszy mnie pozycja Subaru. To firma z charakterem. Przymierzam sie juz od
        jakiegos czasu do Legacy GT (silnik od STI 2,5L turbo o nieco mniejszym stopniu
        sprezania).
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