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Gość: XYZ Re: Polish American Congress wyjasnia Jedwabne IP: *.HAWI.splitrock.net 15.07.01, 17:35 REPORT OF REV. FR. EDWARD ORLOWSKI Pastor of the Parish of Jedwabne, Dean of the Jedwabne Deanery Jedwabne, June 10, 2001 After completing the seminary, for 14 years I was an associate pastor in various parishes, including 3 years in Lipsk on the Biebrza River, where I served together with Fr. Jozef Keblinski, who throughout the entire period of Soviet and German occupation fulfilled pastoral duties in Jedwabne. Every day at dinner, at supper, Fr. Jozef Keblinski would tell me about what happened in Jedwabne; among other things, he spoke about the burning of the Jews. From his reports, which he repeated many times, I know the exact sequence of those events. From July 1 1998 I became the Dean and Pastor of the Parish in Jedwabne. (…) Why do I feel entitled to speak out in the matter of the murder of Jews in Jedwabne? Because I had very detailed information about the events of this murder of the Jews from Fr. Jozef Keblinski, who told me about it many times. Thanks to that, I consider myself an indirect witness. The roots of the matter go back to 1939, when the Germans came to Jedwabne, but on the basis of the Ribbentrop – Molotov Pact they yielded the place to the Soviets. When the Soviets arrived, the Jews greeted them with flowers, they took over positions in the city government, they formed from the Jewish youth a Soviet militia and they began cooperating with the NKVD. The cooperation consisted giving the NKVD detailed information, and because in October of 1939 a resistance movement had been formed, there was a facility for training in guerilla warfare for three counties: Lomza, Bialystok and Augustow. At this facility there gathered a group of people from military schools in Warsaw and its environs. They lived and conducted activities in Jedwabne, but the Jews were spying on them, so they relocated to the neighboring village of Kubrzany, but there also they were spied upon. Then they relocated across the Biebrza River, to a swampy region, to the forest of Kobielno, where there was a forester’s station that they made their base. But there too they were spied out, due in large part to the participation of Jews from Jedwabne. On Pentecost in 1941, the NKVD came with units of the Red Army, and a battle was fought there in which some partisans were killed, but many more soldiers of the NKVD. After this event, there began the most cruel deportations. The Jews prepared lists of patriots, of the most valuable people, the educated, who were to be deported as quickly as possible. The Jews participated actively in the arrests, they would lead the NKVD people to the dwellings of the deportees, and together with the NKVD, they drove them off in horse-drawn wagons to the rail station in Lomza. The wagons were escorted by Jews armed with rifles. The mothers and wives of those arrested pleaded with the Jews, their neighbors, to allow their husbands and sons to escape on the way to the station. The Jews allowed no one to escape – there is no known instance of assistance in anyone’s escape. The most tragic was the last convoy, just before the entrance of Germans into Lomza, just before the outbreak of the German-Soviet war. There was not enough time to load all of the people on the huge train of cattle cars. The remaining ones were put into a prison, awaiting the next transport. On June 22 1941, the Germans entered Lomza. The prisoners forced the doors, got out of the prison and returned to Jedwabne, where they met the Jews who had escorted their convoy. The homes of the Poles had been taken over, families had been deported into the depths of Russia, the returning Poles had no place to go. On July 10 1941, the Germans organized the liquidation of the Jews in Jedwabne. For a few days preceding this liquidation they gathered the Jews to work in the town square, for the purpose of pulling up the grass from the square; after that work they would let them return home. The second day they repeated this experiment, and it was only on the third day they decided to murder them. So it was that in the third day the Jews were burned. Fr. Keblinski lived in the rectory which the Germans had handed back from the "Selsoviet." The Germans had their headquarters in the Old Pharmacy. The Germans returned the rectory to Fr. Keblinski. For a short time, the German chaplain lived there together with the priest. Because Fr. Keblinski knew German, by necessity he acted as interpreted between the Poles and the Germans, the Jews and the Germans. Fr. Keblinski found out from the Germans that the Jews were to be destroyed, because one of the gendarmes passed along the information that a unit of 240 German commandos had arrived in Bialystok, for the purpose of ending the Jewish problem. Fr. Keblinski tried to argue that perhaps these Jews could be saved. The Jews even wanted to collect valuables for the purpose of bribing the Germans. But the Germans declared that was impossible, they said that wherever a German soldier sets foot, no Jew has a right to live. Fr. Keblinski warned some of the prominent Jews. He could tell only those whom he considered capable of being discreet, otherwise he himself would have been shot. On the day when not only the men, but also women and children were gathered in the town square, Fr. Keblinski went to the headquarters of the high officer who was directing the entire action and tried to reason with him: if you consider the men guilty because of their sympathy for Communism, surely the women and children are not guilty. And he heard in response: "Do you know who’s in charge here? Don’t meddle, if you don’t want to lose your head and want to stay alive." He opened the door and yelled in a loud voice: "Raus!" Fr. Keblinski left the post, he felt totally powerless. On posts there were signs warning that anyone who hides a Jew, or allows one to escape, is subject to being shot, along with three generations of his family. He saw how the Poles were forced, herded out into the town square, for the purpose of guarding and leading the Jews to the barn. But nobody, not the Jews, not the Poles, suspected what would be the final outcome. The Jews went with their everyday articles, calmly, without suspecting what awaited them. Fr. Keblinski estimated that there could have been 150 to 200 Jews. About the moment itself we know only that there was an explosion, then cries; I know that the Jews attempted to escape from the barn, but the barn was tightly surrounded by armed Germans. Only the Germans were armed; certainly, they did not agree to give arms even to Karolak, a German agent whom the Germans named as mayor. The action of the final killing of the Jews was solely and exclusively the action of the Germans; Poles were forced to stand guard under threat of loss of life. From the testimony of a Jew in a legal case before a regional court in Lomza, it is unequivocally apparent that the Jews were burned in the barn by Germans. At least three Poles were pushed into the barn and burned there, they were pushed by the Germans and burned there along with the Jews. The Jews carried with them their everyday articles, they had spoons, forks, the butcher had a knife. The Jews did not know that they were going to their deaths. That knife was intended for ritual ceremonies. Rev. Edward Orlowski Translation: Thaddeus Mirecki Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: XYZ Re: Polish American Congress wyjasnia Jedwabne IP: *.HAWI.splitrock.net 15.07.01, 17:37 The following article was written in reply to the vicious, anti-Polish article by George Will in Newsweek, July 10, 2001 JEDWABNE AND THE WILL TO REMAIN IGNORANT, GEORGE! by Stanley Naj History has never been George Will's forte-baseball--maybe? He had to cheat when coaching a presidential candidate, Ronald Reagan, by resorting to the use of a stolen classified Carter White House document. In his July 9, 2001 Newsweek column, he outdid himself when he commented upon a book written by a discredited scholar, Jan Gross, a former communist, now residing in the West, to insult an entire nation and émigrés of Polish origin. Mr. Gross, in a desperate struggle for recognition, revived a fictionalized report made in 1948 by a Soviet-controlled Polish Security Office (U.B.--Urzad Bezbieczenstwa) agent named Wasserstein, who, in order to arrest former members of the Polish underground, created a false report in which he charged that the former underground fighters helped the Nazis kill "Russian" Jews in the town of Jedwabne, Poland. Consequently, innocent Poles with no chance for defense were killed or incarcerated for many years. In those days an accusation made by a KGB agent was the proverbial "kiss of death." Mr. Gross took the story one step beyond. He accused the entire town of Jedwabne of participation in the crime. Mr. Will in his column willingly concealed this and other historic facts behind the incident to accentuate his support for Mr. Gross' unfortunate meanderings. Therefore, some history needs to be resurrected in order to illustrate what George Will was unwilling to discuss or reveal. During the period of endangerment from the Nazis, 1933-1945, most European peoples and nations succumbed to fear and collaborated with Hitler or Stalin or both. Jews collaborated with Stalin and Hitler--Poles did not. Jewish collaboration with Hitler, destructive as it became, began in April of 1933 with a famous Memorandum supporting Hitler's anti-Semitism and was followed up by the August 27, 1933 Transfer Agreement signed by German Zionists- Revisionists and the Nazis. The agreement permitted affluent Jews to remove their wealth from the Nazi governed territories. These two acts guided Nazi- Jewish relations throughout the Nazi period in Germany, Poland and elsewhere, permitting wealthy Jews to escape the dangers of the occupation but exposing the vast majority of poor Jews to Nazi/Zionist-Revisionist manipulations, suffering and death. The principals even opened emigration offices, staffed by Nazis and their Zionist-Revisionist proxies, in Vienna and Prague immediately after invasions of the respective countries. On the eve of the signing of the infamous Ribbenthrop-Molotov Agreement on August 22, 1939, Hitler, meeting with his generals, issued an order to "liquidate Poland and Poles and make lebensraum for the Reichsdeutsche." This order was issued for Poland and Poles not Jews, French, Danes or anybody else. It was the only order of its kind given by Hitler and it commanded all of the Nazi forces to liquidate the Polish nation and nobody else. For Jews, even as late as the 1942 Wannsee meeting, the Nazis outlined expulsions as the "final solution", not liquidation. On September 1, 1939, Hitler gave an additional order under Operation Tannenbaum--to kill Polish intellectuals immediately upon capture and forbade the inclusion of any Pole in any official organization--military or civilian. Hitler rescinded this order only in August of 1944. It is this order that makes Mr. Gross' lie and Mr. Will's naiveté so obvious and the proof of its significance is reflected in the recruitments for the Nazi SS in various countries. These numbers were provided by the German SS Pension office in 1993. This Office continues to pay out funds even today: Holland 5,000 recruits for the SS. France 5,000 recruits " Belgium 4,000 recruits " Denmark 2,000 recruits " Norway 2,000 recruits " England 100 recruits " Poland None Jedwabne and the Soviet Occupation. On September 17, 1939, the Soviet Union came to aid the Nazis, whose campaign against the Poles was running out of steam. The Soviets captured 46.5% of the Polish territories and stopped the Polish military from regrouping and continuing their struggle, especially in the North where Polish troops had successfully arrested Nazi advances. On September 28, the Nazis and Soviet Russia partitioned Poland. Each began to organize the territory to its political advantage. Hitler divided his acquisition into three parts. One section, the northern sector, was absorbed into the Reich and cleared of any Poles immediately. The second part was converted into three protectorates for the Polish population and its two major ethnic groups representing at least 10% of the total population: 1) General Government, with its capital, Krakow, is designated for Poles, 2) Judenland, with its capital, Zamosc, for European and Polish Jews, and 3) Ukrainian Reserve for Polish Ukrainians. Lastly, the Zakopane territory was given to Slovakia for its assistance in the attack on Poland. The third ethnic group in Poland, which also composed 10% of the total population, was the Polish Germans. This group, like the Jews, began to collaborate with Hitler almost immediately, and by 1935 Hitler decorated its representatives with Iron Crosses, a military award for valor. Hitler referred to them as Volksdeutsche. Jews collaborated with the Nazi invader through the Nazi approved Councils, Jewish Police and spy networks, such as the infamous Department 13 run by Nossig. In the years 1939-1943, the Nazis set up 108 camps for the Polish--not Jewish-- population. During the initial years, Auschwitz was for Poles, not Jews. Polish men, women, priests, nuns, children under 12 and children 12 to 16 were placed in specific camps to serve the "needs" of their new master--chief among them the murder of the leaders and deportation of Polish children who were endowed with Aryan features to the Reich. The Jews organized themselves in ghettos led by Nazi-approved leaders such as Czernikow and others. The Ukrainians formed SS-Units such as the Galizien-SS or guard units like the "Trawnikimanner" to assist the Nazis in various operations. The Volksdeutsche, the Polish Germans, received their German citizenship upon signing a document and joined all levels of the Nazi killing machine. Some of the smaller ethic groups in occupied Poland such as Lithuanians and Latvians joined their national counterparts in servicing Nazi needs. Despite all the pressure, Poles did not collaborate! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: XYZ Re: Polish American Congress wyjasnia Jedwabne IP: *.HAWI.splitrock.net 15.07.01, 17:38 Despite all the pressure, Poles did not collaborate! They organized themselves under the leadership of the Polish Government-in- Exile in London and fought their invaders--Nazis and Soviets, only to be betrayed by the British, French, Americans and in their own country their "neighbors" Jews, Ukrainians, Polish Germans and a host of smaller ethnic communities. In the Soviet partition, immediately after September 17, 1939, one ethnic group began to collaborate with the Soviet invader--the Polish Jews. Of the 3.1 million Polish Jews, 1,222,000 lived in the territories taken over by Soviet Russia. Between September 17 and October 22, 1939, they helped the Soviets identify Polish civilian and military leaders and intellectuals and assisted with deportations of about 1.5 million Poles into the Soviet Union's Siberia as well as helped in the murder of at least 100,000 Poles on the spot. Mr. Will does not dare to mention Jewish collaboration of the Jedwabne Jews or any other eastern community with Stalinist forces, but nevertheless this factor is the main cause of the Nazi action in that town. Jewish collaborators, along with identifying their neighbors, Poles, for deportation or murder helped the Soviets organize and conduct a plebiscite. On October 22, 1939 the Soviets rammed through a plebiscite which overwhelmingly favored the annexation of Soviet-occupied Polish territories into the Soviet Union. A week later, the Soviets annexed 46.5% of Poland into the Soviet republics of Belarus and Ukraine. British journalists, who were present in the territories of Soviet occupation, in their reports to their respective journals confirmed the betrayal of Poles by their "neighbors"--the Polish Jews. All inhabitants of the annexed territories instantaneously became citizens of the Soviet Union, the Polish currency, the Zloty, was declared worthless and all of the administrative jobs in the new Soviet territories were given to the collaborators. The persecution of ethnic Poles under the new administration intensified. After killing all of the Polish administrators and military men, the blood-thirsty collaborators started murdering old men, veterans of World War I and the Polish-Soviet War of 1921-22 in which Poland was victorious. Families of those killed were deported to Siberia. However, Hitler was running out of resources after his escapades in Western Europe, and the Soviet Union seemed to be the only easy target left for him. Rich in badly needed natural resources, it had to be taken immediately and he attacked it on June 22, 1941. Plans were drawn up and on June 6, the organization of four Einsatztruppen (Security Troops) A, B, C, and D was approved. These units followed the military forces purging the German occupied territories of Soviet Commissars and other "apparatchiks." Jedwabne was one of the towns which was occupied by the Soviet Union in September 1939. In October, after the plebiscite, the Jewish collaborators purged the Polish administration, killing or deporting all of its leaders and were given their jobs as a reward. As an expression of devotion to their Soviet masters, the Jewish collaborators erected a statue of Lenin in the town. After the Nazi military machine rolled through the territories, the Einsatztruppen arrived. They gathered local communists and their sympathizers and began to destroy them in the manner they saw fit. They also demolished the Lenin monument. Their crime, committed against the Jewish Soviet collaborators in 1941 was not any different than those which took place from September through December of 1939 and were previously committed exclusively against Poles. In many towns, Bydgoszcz and Leszno being chief among them, the German troops killed over 5,000 Poles. In the same period, another 384 Polish towns and villages were completely destroyed--inhabitants and property. Lastly, the documentation examined by scholars in Ludwigsburg, Germany, Warsaw, Poland and Stanford University in California show that the Einsatztruppen action taken against the Jewish collaborators was a Nazi responsibility. The Nuremberg Trial records, which contain the testimony of 22 Einsatztruppen commanders, clearly show a German pattern of murderous behavior. Further, Hitler's order of September 1, 1939 is key in refuting the unfortunate claim by Mr. Gross and Mr. Will. No Nazi would disobey the Fuehrer. On the other hand, a crime was committed by Mr. Will in his column. However, no punishment will erase what he did. He casually dismissed the suffering and martyrdom of 26 million Poles at the hands of Hitler and Stalin to sensationalize the tragedy that befell less than 100 collaborators. It seem now, more than before, that Mr. Will's forte is baseball. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Marysia Polish American Congress i Imigracja POlska IP: *.024.popsite.net 16.07.01, 02:14 Na innej liscie prosilam imigrantow z Polski by podali choc jeden przyklad dzialalnosci Kongresu, ktory bezposrednio im pomogl czy to poprzez stypendium czy poprzez odpowiednia informacje. Jak dotad nie uslyszalam nic optymistycznego. Organizacje Zydowskie wchlonely wielka imigracje Zudow Rosyjskich, Polskie organizacje wadzily sie z nowa imigracja. To nie fakt, ze strony Kongresu sa dla nas wszystkich hanbiace wlacznie z wypowiedzia ksiedza (wiele pytan mozna by zadac zmarlemu i obecnemu proboszczowi dotyczacych ich postaw ) ale dlatego, ze w ten tani sposob Kongres, ktory nic nie robi poza podtrzymywaniem swojej struktury, ktorego istnienie przynosi Poloni wiecej szkody niz pozytku, ktory osmiesza nas jako nacje bezmyslnych pieniaczy, udaje ze dziala. Nic dla Polakow ale przeciw Zydom. Nikt nie zacheca Polonii do aktywnego uczestnictwa w polityce Amerykanskiej, do zdobywanie wyksztalcenia. Jakiz jst procent abywateli amerykanskich polskiego pochodzenia w dzialajacych w Chicago czy Nowym Jorku urzedach stanowych czy federalnych (do pracy stanowej nie trzeba byc nawet obywatelem. I teraz te pseudo argumenty nadaja tej skompromitowanej organizacji pozor wiarygodnosci. Niestety efekt jest taki, ze coraz wiecej obywateli polskiego pochodzenia, odcina sie od Kongresu, by uniknac kompromitacji, a ci, ktorzy nie maja nic do stracenia (miedzy innymi i dlatego ze nic nie reprezentuja) pchaja sie tam rekami i nogami. Marysia Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: XYZ Re: Polish American Congress i Imigracja POlska IP: *.HAWI.splitrock.net 16.07.01, 06:58 A CO TO MA DO RZECZY Z JEDWABNYM? OBUDZ SIE! TO NIE JEST FUNKCJA KONGRESU POLSKIEGO. Kongress zostal ustanowiony w innym celu. Czarter Kongresu nie wiaze sie z twoimi spodziewaniami! Zastamow sie jaka jest i powinna byc rola Kongresu. Oczywiscie Zydzi beda starali sie skompromitowac Kongress! Zastanow sie nad twoimi bredniami! W kucni sie gotuje, a nie .... je! W jadalni sie serwuje .... Czy ty nie widzisz roznicy? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: XYZ Re: Polish American Congress i Imigracja POlska IP: *.HAWI.splitrock.net 16.07.01, 07:07 Stypendiami zajmuje sie Fundacja Kosciuszkowska a nie Kongress Polski! Na stacji benzynowej sie sprzedaje benzyne a nie piwo! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Chicago Re: Milczaca Zdrada Polonii IP: *.proxy.aol.com 15.07.01, 21:52 Polsko - nie oczekujcie duzo od Polonii Swiata a w szczegolnosci od Amerykanskiej Polonii. To jest gromaga zamarzlych i zardzewialych mozgo ktorzy mysla o swym istnienie zyjac na wielkich pensjach ze skadek czlonkow kongresu polonijnego, bronia swych pozycji dajac duze pieniadze do kieszeni polskim biskupom przyjezdzajacym tutaj i otrzymujacym od nich blogoslawienstwa i piekne listy. Boja sie o swe oszczednosci w bankach i tancza kolo zydowskiej gminy aby otrzymac wieksze procenty z ich oszczednosci. Nikt z nich nie da swej obfitej pozycji dochodowej za wstawienie sie za wami. Liczcie na swaja inteligencje, dyplomacje miedzynarodowe i brocie dobrego imienia Polski Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: on Re: Milczaca Zdrada Polonii IP: 24.22.47.* 15.07.01, 23:00 >Liczcie na swaja inteligencje, dyplomacje miedzynarodowe i brocie dobrego >imienia Polski Wobec tego, nie ma na co liczyc...... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Symeon Re: Milczaca Zdrada Polonii IP: *.torun.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 15.07.01, 23:15 Gość portalu: on napisał(a): > >Liczcie na swaja inteligencje, dyplomacje miedzynarodowe i brocie dobrego > >imienia Polski > > > Wobec tego, nie ma na co liczyc...... > Nie bądź takim pesymistą. Trzeba po prostu wynająć do tego Żydów. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: polonus Re: Milczaca Zdrada Polonii IP: *.proxy.aol.com 16.07.01, 02:57 Potwierdzam zdradziecka prace Polskiego Kongresu Grupa oszustow szukajacych wlasne,prywatne zyski z biednych emigrantow Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Mark Re: Milczaca Zdrada Polonii IP: *.proxy.aol.com 16.07.01, 01:00 Gość portalu: Chicago napisał(a): > Polsko - nie oczekujcie duzo od Polonii Swiata a w szczegolnosci od > Amerykanskiej Polonii. Zdrajco ! Jedynie dzieki Polonii nie mozecie dopiac swego. > > To jest gromaga zamarzlych i zardzewialych mozgo ktorzy mysla o swym istnienie > zyjac na wielkich pensjach ze skadek czlonkow kongresu polonijnego, Jezeli to prawda to podaj przyklady? bronia > swych pozycji dajac duze pieniadze do kieszeni polskim biskupom przyjezdzajacym > > tutaj i otrzymujacym od nich blogoslawienstwa i piekne listy. > > Boja sie o swe oszczednosci w bankach i tancza kolo zydowskiej gminy aby > otrzymac wieksze procenty z ich oszczednosci. I wtym momencie zdrajco i prowokatorze sie demaskujesz ,poniewaz kazdy wie jakie sa stosunki Polsko -Zydowskie. > > Nikt z nich nie da swej obfitej pozycji dochodowej za wstawienie sie za wami. Raz przyznajesz ze daja przez Bikupow a tu zaprzeczasz .Jak dawali inna droga to nigdy nie dochodzily. > Liczcie na swaja inteligencje, dyplomacje miedzynarodowe i brocie dobrego > imienia Polski Intteligencja i dobre imie poolega na tym aby sie nie wdawac w dyplomacje miedzynarodowe poniewaz jak historia dluga nikt nam jeszcze nic nie dal a zabral duzo. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: forever Zydzi nienawidza Kongresu Poloni Amerykanskiej.Wiadomo dlaczego. IP: *.tnt1.new-brunswick2.nj.da.uu.net 16.07.01, 04:32 Kongres to jedyna organizacja ujawniajaca powiazania Zionists Revisionists z hitlerowcami. Wspolpraca w 27 sierpnia 1933 zaowocowala masowa emigracja Zydow do Palestyny. Dzisiaj Palestynczycy zbieraja owoce. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Marysia Wielu Polakow nienawidzi Kongres Polonii. IP: *.024.popsite.net 16.07.01, 05:17 Wielu Polakow tez nie moze zniesc KOngresu Polonii albo natychmiast wykresla go z z pamieci. Wiadomo dlaczego. Nic dla Polakow, wszystko przeciw Zydom. Zalosna organizacja. Marysia Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: XYZ Re: Wielu Polakow nienawidzi Kongres Polonii. ????? IP: *.HAWI.splitrock.net 16.07.01, 06:50 Nareszcie mamy przyzwoita organizacje ktora sie nie boi pokazac prawdziwych zydowskich skurwysynow! Kongres wypelnil swoja funkcje! Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: polishAM Do XYZ IP: *.tnt1.new-brunswick2.nj.da.uu.net 16.07.01, 07:54 To sprawa niezwykle trudna. Wyglada, ze uzyto ich do zasiedlenia tego paskudnego miejsca jakim jest Palestyna. Dzisiaj otoczeni przez fanatykow do samego konca buduja osadnictwa wsrod Palestynczykow. Ci strzelaja do nich jak do kaczek. Wyglada na to, ze to wieczne ofiary. Ktokolwiek dzisiaj nie widzi zbierajacych sie chmur nad Zydami jest chyba slepy. Wezma ich stamtad pewnie do USA, podobno Cruiz Shipy buduje sie do tego wlasnie celu. Ciekawe, ze pomimo wszystkich intryg i propagandy nic im nie pomaga chociaz pewnie unikna kary za zbrodnie wojenne. Znowu walizki pelne pieniedzy zmienia rece i te bydle Ariell Sharon bedzie wolny. Pozdrawiam i prosze send regards to Marysia bo mnie przez tydzien nie bedzie to moze sie z nia wtedy zobacze. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Zbyszek Re: Wielu Polakow nienawidzi Kongres Polonii. IP: *.CHCG.splitrock.net 16.07.01, 08:13 Dawno mnie tu nioe bylo i widze, ze wielu wartosciowych "gosci" zniklo z tego forum. I wcale im sie nie dziwie i pewno tez znikne. Przeczytalem Pani Marysiu oba Pani wpisy i jestem pod nieodpartym wrazenioem ich prymitywizmu. Gosc XYZ probowal Pani wyjasnic, ze gotuje sie w kuchni a podaje w jadalni ale do Pani to najwyrazniej nie dociera. A tak naprawde to co Pani wie o Kongresie Polonii Amerykanskiej? Czy wie Pani kiedy on powstal i jakie byly (i sa) jego cele? Czy wie Pani jaka role odegral KPA w okresie stanu wojennego w Polsce? Ktos, kto pisze o "pchajacych sie rekami i nogami" dzialaczach chcacych zyc ze skladek czlonkow KPA sam najwyrazniej nie wie jakie brednie pisze. Wsciekle ataki polsko-jezycznej prasy na KPA spowodowane zostaly przez obnazanie przez te organizacje prawdziwych celow antypolskiej propagandy. Pisze tendencyjnie "polsko-jezycznej" gdyz nie jest ona poza tym niczym zwiazana z polska racja stanu. Internetowy organ Fundacji Wolnego Slowa (Free Speech Fundation) zalozonej przez chicagowskiego przemyslowca Bogdana Lodyge, "Siec Polska" prowadzony przez dr. Michaela Szporer'a przoduje w tych atakach. Jako jeden z najciezszych argumentow wyciagany jest fakt zatrudniania na stanowisku redaktora naczelnego pisma "Zgoda", bylego czlonka partii tow. Wojciech Wierzewskiego. Ale ta sama "Siec Polska" kompletnie przemilcza fakt iz red. naczelnym "Nowego Dziennika" w N.Y. jest inny towarzysz, o znacznie wiekszych zaslugach, Maciej Wierzynski. Nie przeszkadza panu Szporerowi pisac o Kwasniewskim, pan Prezydent, polityczna przeszlosc i obecna partyjna afiliacja tego ostatniego. Jak do tej pory ta nowa wyksztalcona, inteligentna emigracja nie potrafila stworzyc zadnej liczacej sie organizacji. I njie dziwi to jezeli sie wezmie pod uwage, ze wsrod tej emigracji przewazaja takie wlasnie "marysie". Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś