Daj sobie spokoj Lechu

13.11.02, 04:09
i przestan bajdurzyc o MA (magisterium) z naszego Monash co sie rowna
doktoratom. Chyba w twojej wyobrazni. Nie ma tak , aby MA rownalo sie gdzies
doktoratom, a doktorat habiltacjom. Co za bzdury. wg mnie i wielu innych
doktorat z Monash tyle jest warty co magisterium z Polski, albo i nie.
Zreszta sam wiesz co ci "uczeni" warci.
Daj wiec sobie spokoj z tymi awanturami. Czy wszedzie musisz miec wrogow,
chlopie , przeciez tu tez wszyscy omijaja cie wielkim lukiem. Przez te
cholerne zacietrzewienie i obsesyjne oskarzenia nigdy miec nie bedziesz
przyjaciol, a znajomych juz potraciles. Dam ci tylko jedna rade: mniej mow o
sobie, bo moze sie komus zechce cos wyjasniac. Trzymaj sie, z MU
    • Gość: Kagan Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.its.monash.edu.au / *.lib.monash.edu.au 13.11.02, 04:19
      monash napisał:
      i przestan bajdurzyc o MA (magisterium) z naszego Monash co sie rowna
      doktoratom.
      K: Poczytaj dokladnie: niogdy nie pisalem o MA z Monash, ale z The
      University of Melbourne! Polskie magisterium (4-5 lat) to w krajach anglosaskich
      najwyzej Bachelor with Honours ("wyzszy bakalarz")...

      M: Chyba w twojej wyobrazni. Nie ma tak , aby MA rownalo sie gdzies
      doktoratom, a doktorat habiltacjom. Co za bzdury. wg mnie i wielu innych
      doktorat z Monash tyle jest warty co magisterium z Polski, albo i nie.
      Zreszta sam wiesz co ci "uczeni" warci. Daj wiec sobie spokoj z tymi
      awanturami. Czy wszedzie musisz miec wrogow, chlopie , przeciez tu tez wszyscy
      omijaja cie wielkim lukiem. Przez te cholerne zacietrzewienie i obsesyjne
      oskarzenia nigdy miec nie bedziesz przyjaciol, a znajomych juz potraciles.
      Dam ci tylko jedna rade: mniej mow o sobie, bo moze sie komus zechce cos
      wyjasniac. Trzymaj sie, z MU
      K: Liczy sie bardziej uniwersytet niz stopien. Polskie sa, wiadomo, coraz w
      gorszym stanie. Australijskie moze tez nie rewelacja, ale w skali swiatowej to
      wyraznie czolowka. I czytaj mnie dokladnie, bo napisalem wyraznie, ze MA to
      stopien pomiedzy mgr a dr, a PhD pomiedzy dr a dr hab. I jak jestes w Australii
      to sie wybierz na Monash i przeczytaj moj doktorat i porownaj go z polska praca
      magisterska. Czytalem polskie doktoraty na podobny temat, i moge cie zapewnic,
      ze na Monash by nie przeszly jako MA, najwyzej jako BA(Hons)...
      Pozdr.
      Kagan
      PS: Jak sie nazywasz? Ujawnij przynajmniej swoj adres na WWW!
      Bo cos mi nie pasuje, ze jestes z Monash... :(
      • Gość: salmotrutta Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.telstraclear.net 13.11.02, 04:23
        ...pietnowany przez wszystkich Kaganie...mylisz sie gleboko w
        nomenklaturze...MA nie jest odpowiednikiem "miedzy naszym magistrem a doktorem"
        tak jak PhD nie lezy "miedzy doktorem a doktorem habilitowanym"...jeszcze
        troche i pomysle ze twoi przesladowcy maja racje...
        • Gość: Kagan Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.its.monash.edu.au / *.lib.monash.edu.au 13.11.02, 04:31
          Gość portalu: salmotrutta napisał(a):
          ...pietnowany przez wszystkich Kaganie...mylisz sie gleboko w
          nomenklaturze...MA nie jest odpowiednikiem "miedzy naszym magistrem a doktorem"
          tak jak PhD nie lezy "miedzy doktorem a doktorem habilitowanym"...jeszcze
          troche i pomysle ze twoi przesladowcy maja racje...
          K:
          1. NIE przez wszystkich!
          2. Tutejsza komisja d/s weryfikacji zagranicznych dyplomow uznaje polskiego
          magistra (w tym i mgr. inz.) jako "bachelor with honours".
          3. MA wymaga owego "honours" (min. 4 lata) plus min. 2 lata, czyli znacznie
          dluzej niz "minimalny" polski mgr (4 lata).
          4. PhD to "honours" (min. 4 lata) plus min. 3 lata - dluzej niz kazdy inny
          polski stopien z wyjatkiem niektorych doktoratow i oczywiscie dr. hab. I poza
          tym PhD jest tu NAJWYZSZYM mozliwym stopniem naukowym!
          5. Pisz wiec konkrety, a nie pomowienia uzywajace argumentow ad personam!
          Kagan

          • Gość: salmotrutta Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.telstraclear.net 13.11.02, 04:35
            ...drogi kaganie...czy slyszales o wyzszych doktoratach?...typu Dr Litt na
            przyklad?...oferuja je takze i australijskie uniwersytety...jeszcze chwilka i
            pomysle ze twoim najwiekszym osiagnieciem jest Associate Diploma...
            • Gość: Kagan Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.its.monash.edu.au / *.lib.monash.edu.au 13.11.02, 04:39
              "Wyzsze doktoraty"?
              Pomylilas je z tzw. profesjonalnymi doktoratami, ktore sa ponizej
              PhD, i dostaje sie je za krotsza rozprawe polaczona z normalnymi studiami... ;)
              • Gość: salmotrutta Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.telstraclear.net 13.11.02, 04:40
                ...ja sie nigdy nie myle kolego...
                • Gość: Kagan Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.its.monash.edu.au / *.lib.monash.edu.au 13.11.02, 04:45
                  Gość portalu: salmotrutta napisał(a): > ...ja sie nigdy nie myle kolego...
                  K: Jak papiez, ktory nadal Henrykowi VIII tylul "obroncy wiary" na krotko przed zerwaniem Anglii z Watykanem
                  (tytul ten dostal heniek za rozprawe przeciwko Lutrowi)...;)
                  Daj jakis link, ktory potwierdzi, ze profesjonalny doktorat (Dr Litt n.p.) wymaga posiadania uprzednio PhD....
                  Kagan
                  • Gość: Kagan Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.its.monash.edu.au / *.lib.monash.edu.au 13.11.02, 04:46
                    I jeszcze jedno: PhD wystarczy (bo musi z braku wyzszego stopnia) do zostania pelnym profesorem!
                    I co ty NA TO?
                    • Gość: salmotrutta Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.telstraclear.net 13.11.02, 04:52
                      ...Higher Education Student Collection Data Element 310 (Course-Type) lists the
                      following Course Types and codes

                      01 Higher Doctorate
                      02 Doctorate by research
                      12 Doctorate by coursework
                      03 Master’s by research
                      04 Master’s by coursework

                      The Higher Education Student Collection Main Documentation defines a Higher
                      Degree Research Course as being a course where at least two-thirds of the
                      student load for the course is required as research work. The Higher Education
                      Student Collection Technical Documentation specifies that Higher Doctorates
                      belong to the course type group: Higher Degree....

                      ...przeciez juz ci mowilem ze ja sie nigdy nie myle...to papiez sie
                      myli...nawet ex cathedra...
                      • Gość: Kagan Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.vic.bigpond.net.au 13.11.02, 05:53
                        Gość portalu: salmotrutta napisał(a):
                        ...Higher Education Student Collection Data Element 310 (Course-Type) lists the
                        following Course Types and codes
                        01 Higher Doctorate
                        02 Doctorate by research
                        12 Doctorate by coursework
                        03 Master’s by research
                        04 Master’s by coursework
                        The Higher Education Student Collection Main Documentation defines a Higher
                        Degree Research Course as being a course where at least two-thirds of the
                        student load for the course is required as research work. The Higher Education
                        Student Collection Technical Documentation specifies that Higher Doctorates
                        belong to the course type group: Higher Degree....
                        K: Mylisz system amerykanski, gdzie doktorat dostaje sie za tzw. coursework &
                        thesis z systemem australijskim, gdzie PhD dostaje sie za WYLACZNIE
                        rozprawe (thesis, czyli inaczej research). W ten sposob moj PhD jest wlasnie
                        owym "higher doctorate", bo 100% mych studiow doktoranckich bylo powiecone na
                        badania i pisanie rozprawy (research)...

                        ...przeciez juz ci mowilem ze ja sie nigdy nie myle...to papiez sie
                        myli...nawet ex cathedra...
                        K: Mylisz sie, i to bardzo, bo nie znasz realiow uniwerytetow australijskich...
                        :(

                    • Gość: salmotrutta Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.telstraclear.net 13.11.02, 04:54
                      ...Higher Education Student Collection Data Element 310 (Course-Type) lists the
                      following Course Types and codes

                      01 Higher Doctorate
                      02 Doctorate by research
                      12 Doctorate by coursework
                      03 Master’s by research
                      04 Master’s by coursework

                      The Higher Education Student Collection Main Documentation defines a Higher
                      Degree Research Course as being a course where at least two-thirds of the
                      student load for the course is required as research work. The Higher Education
                      Student Collection Technical Documentation specifies that Higher Doctorates
                      belong to the course type group: Higher Degree....

                      ...przeciez juz ci mowilem ze ja sie nigdy nie myle...to papiez sie
                      myli...nawet ex cathedra...
                    • Gość: salmotrutta Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.telstraclear.net 13.11.02, 04:55
                      ...Higher Education Student Collection Data Element 310 (Course-Type) lists the
                      following Course Types and codes

                      01 Higher Doctorate
                      02 Doctorate by research
                      12 Doctorate by coursework
                      03 Master’s by research
                      04 Master’s by coursework

                      The Higher Education Student Collection Main Documentation defines a Higher
                      Degree Research Course as being a course where at least two-thirds of the
                      student load for the course is required as research work. The Higher Education
                      Student Collection Technical Documentation specifies that Higher Doctorates
                      belong to the course type group: Higher Degree....

                      ...przeciez juz ci mowilem ze ja sie nigdy nie myle...to papiez sie
                      myli...nawet ex cathedra...
                  • Gość: salmotrutta Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.telstraclear.net 13.11.02, 04:49
                    ..."Higher doctorates

                    These degrees represent the pinnacle of academic achievement. They are awarded
                    to candidates who have already established a position as a leading authority
                    through their contribution to scholarship.

                    Candidates "must have … published work which … gives clear proof that the
                    candidate is a leading authority in the field of study concerned and has made
                    an original and distinguished contribution to the advancement or application of
                    knowledge in that field."


                    "The degrees awarded as higher doctorates are the LLD (Doctor of Laws), the
                    DLitt (Doctor of Letters) and DSc (Doctor of Science)."...

                    ...nie chce mi sie szukac linkow wiec wrzucilem maly cytacik...leniwy ze mnie
                    stwor strasznie...
                    • Gość: Kagan Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.vic.bigpond.net.au 13.11.02, 05:48
                      Takie "wyzsze doktoraty" daja raczej podrzedne uniwersytety, np. w Bradford
                      (W. Brytania)
                      www.brad.ac.uk/admin/student-registry/Guidance/highdoc.html
                      na podstawie:
                      i) A list of the publications which it is proposed to submit.
                      ii) A one page curriculum vitae detailing the salient aspects of the
                      candidate's academic and career progression.
                      iii) A statement of between 5,000 and 10,000 words setting out the basis for
                      the award of the degree.
                      iv) A statement signed by the candidate giving full details of any other degree
                      or diploma for which the works, in whole or in part, may have been submitted.

                      Dawniej to sie nazywalo "doktoratem honorowym" (dr honoris causa).
                      Taki doktorat dostal np. Strzelecki za prace o Nowej Poludniowej Walii.
                      Dzis, gdy doktoraty h.c. dostaja msowo takie glupki jak Walesa, co to nawet
                      matury nie maja, to dygnitarze, ktorzy cos w zyciu napisali moga dostac te tzw.
                      "wyzsze doktoraty" (np. zasluzeni sedziowie czy tez wyzsi urzednicy)...
                      Jedno jest pewne: te doktoraty dostaja osoby, ktore nie sa w stanie napisac
                      prawdziwej rozprawy na stopien PhD (doktora filozofii, rozumianej tu jako
                      kwintesencja wszystkich nauk)... Nadajac te "doktoraty" uniwersytety zjednuja
                      sobie wplywowych przyjaciol i zarabiaja niezle (bo przeciez nie nadaja one tych
                      stopni za darmo)..;)
                      Pozdr.
                      Kagan
                      • Gość: Kagan Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.vic.bigpond.net.au 13.11.02, 06:24
                        Patrz tez:
                        www.hku.hk/pubunit/degrees98/hd.htm (Hong Kong)
                        www.lboro.ac.uk/admin/ar/new.htm (Loughborough)
                        www.nottingham.ac.uk/gradschool/forstaff/higher-doctorate.html(Nottingham)
                        dugs.deakin.edu.au/Deakin+SOP.nsf/7264c32fe71924374a2566f3000a65de/a85a81
                        5586f136b1ca25679f001adc6f (Deakin)
                        To ostatnie zalicza do "wyzszych doktoratow" Doctor of the University DU (which
                        may be conferred as an honorary award only);
                        Widac wyraznie, ze sa to stopnie nadawane arbitralnie, w celu zyskania
                        pieniedzy i wplywowych przyjaciol (przyklad DU z Deakin University)...
                        Kagan

      • Gość: salmotrutta Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.telstraclear.net 13.11.02, 05:27
        ...Higher Education Student Collection Data Element 310 (Course-Type) lists the
        following Course Types and codes

        01 Higher Doctorate
        02 Doctorate by research
        12 Doctorate by coursework
        03 Master’s by research
        04 Master’s by coursework

        The Higher Education Student Collection Main Documentation defines a Higher
        Degree Research Course as being a course where at least two-thirds of the
        student load for the course is required as research work. The Higher Education
        Student Collection Technical Documentation specifies that Higher Doctorates
        belong to the course type group: Higher Degree....

        ...przeciez juz ci mowilem ze ja sie nigdy nie myle...to papiez sie
        myli...nawet ex cathedra...cytat powzszy pochodzi z materialow uniwersytetu na
        wyspie gdzie ludnosc odznacza sie posiadaniem dwoch glow…uniwersytet ow jest
        znacznie starszy niz ten imienia generala…biedaczysko w grobie sie przewraca z
        rozpaczy…
      • Gość: salmotrutta Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.telstraclear.net 13.11.02, 05:29
        ...cyberchochlik...albo zli ludzie podsluchali i tyle razy
        powtorzyli...widocznie prawda...
    • Gość: salmotrutta Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.telstraclear.net 13.11.02, 04:59
      ...Higher Education Student Collection Data Element 310 (Course-Type) lists the
      following Course Types and codes

      01 Higher Doctorate
      02 Doctorate by research
      12 Doctorate by coursework
      03 Master’s by research
      04 Master’s by coursework

      The Higher Education Student Collection Main Documentation defines a Higher
      Degree Research Course as being a course where at least two-thirds of the
      student load for the course is required as research work. The Higher Education
      Student Collection Technical Documentation specifies that Higher Doctorates
      belong to the course type group: Higher Degree....

      ...przeciez juz ci mowilem ze ja sie nigdy nie myle...to papiez sie
      myli...nawet ex cathedra...cytat powzszy pochodzi z materialow uniwersytetu na
      wyspie gdzie ludnosc odznacza sie posiadaniem dwoch glow…uniwersytet ow jest
      znacznie starszy niz ten imienia generala…biedaczysko w grobie sie przewraca z
      rozpaczy…
      • Gość: Kagan Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.vic.bigpond.net.au 13.11.02, 06:01
        Wiek uniwersytetu nie ma wiele do jego prestizu, bo wtedy jagiellonka by
        musiala bic, i to o glowe, wszystkie amerykanskie uniwerytety!
        Zanim cos napiszesz i wyslesz, to podaj link, bo tak to twoje twierdzenia nie
        sa weryfikowalne, czyli sa wiara, a nie nauka... :(
        I napisz, ktory z renomoanych uniesytetow brytyjskich andaje takie stopnie?
        Oxford? Cambridge?
        raczej Bradford czy Buckingham - maszynki do masowej produkcji dyplomow... :(
        Kagan
        PS: Poczytaj:
        www.brad.ac.uk/admin/student-registry/Guidance/highdoc.htmlhttp://www.buckingham.ac.uk/research/degreetypes/higher.html
        www.qaa.ac.uk/crntwork/nqf/ewni2001/contents.htm
        (z ostaniego) Doctoral level:
        Doctorates are awarded for the creation and interpretation of knowledge, which
        extends the forefront of a discipline, usually through original research.
        Holders of doctorates will be able to conceptualise, design and implement
        projects for the generation of significant new knowledge and/or understanding.
        Holders of doctorates will have the qualities needed for employment requiring
        the ability to make informed judgements on complex issues in specialist fields,
        and innovation in tackling and solving problems.
        The titles PhD and DPhil are commonly used for doctorates awarded on the basis
        of original research. Doctoral programmes, that may include a research
        component, but which have a substantial taught element lead usually to awards
        that include the name of the discipline in their title (eg EdD for Doctor of
        Education). A doctorate normally requires the equivalent of three years' full-
        time study.
        Kagan
        • Gość: salmotrutta Re: Daj sobie spokoj Lechu IP: *.telstraclear.net 13.11.02, 06:49
          ...University of Tasmania tez jest wedlug ciebie maszynka do produkcji
          dyplomow?...wlasnie miedzy innymi i ta instytucja oferuje "higher doctorates"...
          • Gość: Kagan Micki Mouse Degrees...:( IP: *.vic.bigpond.net.au 13.11.02, 07:13
            Gość portalu: salmotrutta napisał(a): ...University of Tasmania tez jest
            wedlug ciebie maszynka do produkcji dyplomow?...wlasnie miedzy innymi i ta
            instytucja oferuje "higher doctorates"...
            K:
            www.admin.utas.edu.au/academic/acservices/meetings/Senate/Appendix/2_99J.doc
            ENROLMENT STATUS OF CANDIDATES FOR HIGHER DOCTORATES
            I am writing in relation to the enrolment status of those candidates who
            periodically submit a body of work for the award of a Higher Doctorate.
            At this stage it is the practice of the University to deal with such candidates
            on an informal basis up to the point of the submission of the work.
            K: Jak widzisz, ci ludzie nawet nie sa traktowani jako studenci, ale
            przyjaciele zarzadu (rektoratu/dziekanatow)...;)

            The first time the candidate is recorded on the University’s records is at the
            point of graduation. Although the number of such candidates is not large,
            probably around 5 per annum, the University meets a range of examination,
            postage and administrative costs in respect of these candidates.
            K: $$$ najwazniejsze... ;(

            It is therefore proposed that in future such candidates be enrolled as
            students, thereby allowing the University to receive funding for their period
            of enrolment.
            K: j.w. potrzebuja wicej $$$ od rzadu!

            It is proposed that each candidate be enrolled for at least one semester of
            full-time study, with the possibility of the enrolment being extended to a
            second semester where appropriate. The enrolment of the candidate could then
            be reported to DETYA as part of the University’s normal enrolment load.
            K: Chca obarczyc podatnikow kosztami promocji uniwerytetu! Wstyd!

            It is important, given the status of these candidates and the contribution of
            their work to the reputation of the University that they do not incur any costs
            for such enrolments. Under current policies, and in the current environment
            where we are keen to attract more research enrolments, this is not a problem.
            K: Jak ja bylem studentem (MA by research i PhD) to musialem placic czesne
            (choc przyznaje, ze dostawalem czesciowe stypendium na Melobourne i pelne na
            Monash). Widac, ze te "wyzsze" doktoraty to lipa - typowy trick marketingowy!

            The candidates will not incur any HECS liability as a result of this change as
            Higher Doctorates are research higher degrees. Candidates will therefore be
            granted a HECS exemption in line with the recent decision to give all
            University of Tasmania research higher degree students an exemption.
            Candidates would normally attract a Services and Amenities fee. The student
            associations will be asked to consider exemptions from S&A fees for candidates
            for Higher Doctorates. Alternatively, it is proposed that Faculties pay this
            fee (approximately $100) on their behalf.
            K: Prosze, prosze! Czego sie nie robi dla kumpli!

            However if circumstances change, so that the costs of these formal enrolments
            cannot be met by the University, this approach should be reviewed. If our
            allocation of Commonwealth Research HECS exemptions is reduced significantly,
            students who hold an APA or an Australian Postgraduate Award (Industry) would
            have to be given priority. One obvious option then would be to return to our
            present policy of not requiring a formal enrolment for Higher Doctorates.
            K: Nie wiedz, co robic... :(
            (...)

            In order to enrol students in a Higher Doctorate, allocate load to the course
            and give students a HECS exemption it would only appear to be necessary that we
            are convinced that a Higher Doctorate is a Research Higher Degree for DETYA’s
            purposes. The information provided below establishes that Higher Doctorates are
            recognised by DETYA as Research Higher Degrees. The very fact that DETYA
            provide a course type code for Higher Doctorates indicates an expectation that
            we will enrol and report the load for such candidates. The only further
            requirement is that the degrees be predominantly research, which presumably
            they are, although not in the normal supervised manner.
            K: Czyli przyznaja, ze te stopnie sa nadawane w 100% arbitralnie, czyli
            po ZNAJOMOSCI!
            PS: Czy prof. Pakulski (socjolog) wystapil o taki stopien?
            O ile wiem, to zaden uniwersytet australijski nie wymaga tkich "kwalifikacji"
            od swych profesorow... :( Wniosek: to sa "MICKI MOUSE" degrees...:(
            Kagan

            • Gość: Kagan Sorry! Mickey Mouse Degrees...:( IP: *.vic.bigpond.net.au 13.11.02, 07:15
              Ostatecznie Amerykanie pisza "nite" i "thru", wiec...;)
              • Gość: Kagan Mickey Mouse Degrees...:( IP: *.vic.bigpond.net.au 14.11.02, 08:23
                Te twoje "advanced doctorates".
                Popatrz na fragment formularza z RMIT:
                RMIT University
                Faculty of Business
                APPLICATION FOR OFFER OF ENROLMENT
                FOR HIGHER DEGREE BY RESEARCH (MASTERS & PhD) PROGRAM
                2. PROGRAM YOU WISH TO APPLY FOR (Please tick appropriate
                boxes):
                Program:
                (Box) Master of Business (By Research)
                (Box) Doctor of Philosophy (PhD)
                ================================
                That's all... ;)
                Kagan

    • Gość: Kagan Stopnie naukowe w W. Brytanii... IP: *.vic.bigpond.net.au 13.11.02, 06:03
      ...podobne sa do australijskich.
      Zrodlo:
      www.qaa.ac.uk/crntwork/nqf/ewni2001/contents.htm
      A brief guide to academic qualifications

      The higher education qualifications awarded by universities and colleges in
      England, Wales and Northern Ireland are at five levels. In ascending order,
      these are the Certificate, Intermediate, Honours, Masters and Doctoral levels.

      Certificate level

      The holder of a Certificate of Higher Education will have a sound knowledge of
      the basic concepts of a subject, and will have learned how to take different
      approaches to solving problems. He or she will be able to communicate
      accurately, and will have the qualities needed for employment requiring the
      exercise of some personal responsibility.

      The Certificate may be a first step towards obtaining higher level
      qualifications.

      Intermediate level

      Holders of qualifications at this level will have developed a sound
      understanding of the principles in their field of study, and will have learned
      to apply those principles more widely. Through this, they will have learned to
      evaluate the appropriateness of different approaches to solving problems. Their
      studies may well have had a vocational orientation, enabling them to perform
      effectively in their chosen field.

      They will have the qualities necessary for employment in situations requiring
      the exercise of personal responsibility and decision-making.

      The intermediate level includes ordinary (non-Honours) degrees, the Foundation
      degree, Diplomas of Higher Education, and other higher diplomas.

      Honours level

      An Honours graduate will have developed an understanding of a complex body of
      knowledge, some of it at the current boundaries of an academic discipline.
      Through this, the graduate will have developed analytical techniques and
      problem-solving skills that can be applied in many types of employment. The
      graduate will be able to evaluate evidence, arguments and assumptions, to reach
      sound judgements, and to communicate effectively.

      An Honours graduate should have the qualities needed for employment in
      situations requiring the exercise of personal responsibility, and decision-
      making in complex and unpredictable circumstances.

      Honours degrees form the largest group of higher education qualifications.
      Typical courses last for three years (if taken full-time) and lead to a
      Bachelors degree with Honours, having a title such as Bachelor of Arts (BA
      (Hons)) or Bachelor of Science (BSc(Hons)). Also at this level are short
      courses and professional 'conversion' courses, based largely on undergraduate
      material, and taken usually by those who are already graduates in another
      discipline, leading to Graduate Certificates or Graduate Diplomas.

      Masters level

      Much of the study undertaken at Masters level will have been at, or informed
      by, the forefront of an academic or professional discipline. Students will have
      shown originality in the application of knowledge, and they will understand how
      the boundaries of knowledge are advanced through research. They will be able to
      deal with complex
      issues both systematically and creatively, and they will show originality in
      tackling and solving problems.

      They will have the qualities needed for employment in circumstances requiring
      sound judgement, personal responsibility and initiative, in complex and
      unpredictable professional environments.

      Masters degrees are awarded after completion of taught courses, programmes of
      research, or a mixture of both. Longer, research-based programmes often lead to
      the degree of MPhil. Most Masters courses last at least one year (if taken full-
      time), and are taken by persons with Honours degrees (or equivalent
      achievement). Some Masters degrees in science and engineering are awarded after
      extended undergraduate programmes that last, typically, a year longer than
      Honours degree programmes. Also at this level are advanced short courses, often
      forming parts of Continuing Professional Development programmes, leading to
      Postgraduate Certificates and Postgraduate Diplomas.
      (Note: the MAs granted by the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge are not
      academic qualifications.)

      Doctoral level

      Doctorates are awarded for the creation and interpretation of knowledge, which
      extends the forefront of a discipline, usually through original research.
      Holders of doctorates will be able to conceptualise, design and implement
      projects for the generation of significant new knowledge and/or understanding.

      Holders of doctorates will have the qualities needed for employment requiring
      the ability to make informed judgements on complex issues in specialist fields,
      and innovation in tackling and solving problems.

      The titles PhD and DPhil are commonly used for doctorates awarded on the basis
      of original research. Doctoral programmes, that may include a research
      component, but which have a substantial taught element lead usually to awards
      that include the name of the discipline in their title (eg EdD for Doctor of
      Education). A doctorate normally requires the equivalent of three years' full-
      time study.

      • kolargol Re: Stopnie naukowe w W. Brytanii... 13.11.02, 06:04
        Kagan zadeklarowal sie ze chcialby byc mieszkancem Bialorusi i pracowac tam za
        30$ miesiecznie. Proponuje ulatwic mu to. Jesli wyjedzie do tego kraju
        szczesliwosci z 4 krotnie mniejszym bezrobociem niz w Polsce to bedziemy go
        mieli w koncu z glowy. Zniknie z forum bardzo szybko. W Minsku internet
        kosztuje 40$ miesiecznie a w bibliotekach nie ma go wcale. Kagan bedzie tez
        zajety dorabianiem do pensji sprzedajac biustonosze na bazarach w Polsce i nie
        bedzie mial czasu na wypisywanie glupot.
        Kagan, uszczesliwisz tym wszystkich. Nareszcie napisales cos z sensem. Podjales
        bardzo madra decyzje. Teraz tylko dzialaj szybko bo inni zajma ci miejsce w
        Minsku i bedziesz mogl tylko pomazyc o Bialorusi.

        • kolargol KAGAN JUZ NIE CHCE NA BIALORUS 13.11.02, 06:06
          Kagan zrobil duza i mala potrzebe wewnatrz spodni celem unikniecia
          odpowiedzialnosci i wydaje mu sie ze juz nie musi jechac na Bialorus.


          • kolargol TRAGICZNA SYTUACJA KAGANA 13.11.02, 06:07
            Kagan, masz tylko dwa wyjscia: albo wyjedziesz na Bialorus tak jak
            zapowiedziales, albo przyznasz ze gadales
            glupoty o Bialorusi przyznajac przy
            tym ze wszystkie twoje wywody sa gowno warte.
            Oba wyjscia sa dla ciebie
            niekorzystne ale przynajmniej zachowasz resztke
            honoru. Jesli tego nie zrobisz
            wszyscy beda cie uwazli za dupka bez honoru
            ktory pieprzy co mu slina na jezyk
            przyniesie a gdy sie go zlapie na klamstwie
            probuje przeczekac niekorzystna
            sytuacje zeby pozniej pieprzyc dalej swoje.
            • Gość: Kagan TRAGICZNA SYTUACJA KOLARGOLA IP: *.vic.bigpond.net.au 13.11.02, 06:09
              Z watku “kolargola” p.t. “Kawaly o Kaganie”:
              Adres: www2.gazeta.pl/forum/794674,30353,794652.html?f=28&w=1270307&a=2584634
              Rucha się Kagan z Krakenem i ten co jest walony w dupe czyli Kagan co chwila
              przechyla rytmicznie głowe do tyłu.A Kraken do niego: PRZESTAŃ BO MI ZĘBY
              WYBIJESZ,i dalej go jedzie w dupe, a Kagan znów zaczyna rytmicznie odchylać
              głowe do tyłu, więc Kraken po raz drugi zwraca mu uwage: NO PRZESTAŃ BO MI TO
              PRZESZKADZA, i jedzie go dalej. Sytuacja powtórzyła się jeszcze raz.Więc Kraken
              pyta się: CO SIĘ DZIEJE STARY POWIEDZ MI BO TAK NIE MOŻE BYĆ.Na to Kagan:
              STARY, ALBO MI WYJMIJ KOSZULE Z DUPY, ALBO MI KOŁNIERZYK ROZEPNIJ.’

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