How long it takes to get temporary residance card?

27.07.05, 20:02
Hi,
I'm curious how long it takes to get that temporary residence card?My husband
is Mexican and soon he will come to live in Poland.
Does he has to wait to get the card to be able to work in Poland?
Thank You for Your help.
    • analilia Re: How long it takes to get temporary residence 27.07.05, 20:20
      analilia napisała:
      I'm sorry for mistake: residence!!!!
      > Hi,
      > I'm curious how long it takes to get that temporary residence card?My husband
      > is Mexican and soon he will come to live in Poland.
      > Does he has to wait to get the card to be able to work in Poland?
      > Thank You for Your help.
      • bluteau Re: How long it takes to get temporary residence 27.07.05, 20:28
        So you mean "permanent residence"? That's more complicated. First you need to
        have been married for at least 3 years and he needs to have been residing in
        Poland on the basis of temporary residence for 2 uninterrupted years. With a
        permanent residence card you have the right to employement.
        • bartis_ervin Re: How long it takes to get temporary residence 28.07.05, 09:31

          Just one comment. With a temporary staying permit you can also have right to
          work, given that your husband/wife is Polish citizen.

          I have only temporary staying permit (and my karta pobytu), but I have the right
          to work. Of course, the pesel and NIP are needed too.

          Ervin
          • bluteau Re: How long it takes to get temporary residence 28.07.05, 10:22
            I think I'd check up on that, somehow I doubt it. Getting a NIP and Pesel is
            easy peasy and has little or nothing to do with a foreigners status here - I got
            a nip while still on a visa. Ervin, I don't quite understand what you mean by:
            "I have only temporary staying permit (and my karta pobytu)"
            Do you mean that you have "karta czasowego pobytu" or "karta stałego pobytu"?
            • bluteau Re: How long it takes to get temporary residence 28.07.05, 10:36
              Ok, I checked up on that. I see that things have changed since my day wink

              Foreigners with temporary residence cards can work if:

              They are citizens of EU member countries
              and/or
              They are married to a Polish citizen

              This is really a recent change, possibly only since May last year (for sure in
              the case of the EU country members). In 2002, the language school I was working
              for had to apply for my permit for me. The fact that I was married to a Polish
              citizen gave me nothing (at that time I had a temporary residence card).
              • bartis_ervin Re: How long it takes to get temporary residence 28.07.05, 15:07

                Yes, it is a recent changesmile
                So recent that some functionaries do not know even about itsmile

                Ervin
    • bluteau Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 27.07.05, 20:25
      With the changes they've introduced in the last few years I'm not sure how long
      he'll have to wait. Since you are married (I'm assuming you're a polish
      citizen), it should be pretty easy. He'll have to enter the country with a visa,
      which he has to get from the embassy or consulate in Mexico. A temporary
      residence card does not permit you to work. He would need a work permit for
      that, and as far as I know, an employer has to take care of formalities.
    • wasza_bogini Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 27.07.05, 20:25
      the one thing is sure. he will be crazy for polish women as mexicans are all
      chingones:::smile))))))))
      • analilia Re:wasza_bogini 27.07.05, 20:56
        I don't trust Polish women but I do trust my husband........
        • agagaby Re:wasza_bogini 27.07.05, 21:22
          whay???
    • chochise Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 27.07.05, 22:41
      Anna,
      Try asking here:

      Embassy of United Mexican States
      ul. Starościńska 1 B
      m. 4-5, 02-516 Warszawa
      tel. 00 48 22 646 88 00; fax 00 48 22 646 42 22

      mon-fri 9am - 4pm

      e-mail: embamex@ikp.pl

      Usually you should begin to get all the formalities done before he arrives. And
      from my experience he must have all paper work before he goes to work. Unless
      his place of employment is taking care of it.
    • kiwigirl Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 28.07.05, 14:44
      hi,
      i read all you wrote and I think you need things cleared out.
      My fiance is a foreigner I am Polish, and we have to go through all those
      procedures right now so I believe my information is pretty up-to-date.
      So:
      1. temporary residence (karta czasowego pobytu) is first thing you get when you
      (as a foreigner - any from outside EU as well as from EU ) want to stay in
      Poland for the period longer than 6 months.

      To apply for it you must be in Poland legaly - so either you are lucky and came
      here on "non visa agreement" - like EU guys and many other countries or if you
      need visa (like Mexican) then having a visa. For the card you must apply the
      latest 45 days before your current visa expires. In fact - its better to apply
      earlier, as they always want some more documents etc, and the time is being
      counted from the moment when you syupply them all.

      2. if you have a temporary residence card AND you are married to a Polish person
      you can work (that has changed recently)
      3. if you have a temporary residence card but you are NOT married to a Polish
      (being engaged or having children doesn't change anything if you are not
      married) you cannot work without a work permit.

      now work permit. Its a long procedure that most polish employers don't want to
      go through. If you have found soemone who wants to do it - you are lucky!

      if you find such employer he will give you a work "promise" and on this
      condition you apply for temporary residence card. When you have it (so have
      legal stay in Poland) the employer gets you the work permit. Only then you can
      start work. Unless someone knows someone and pays a lot of money, all procedures
      take a few months.
      At least 45 days for temporary residence card, 1 month for "advertising the
      position in employment office" then when noone fits the job description -
      procedure itself takes as far as I know another month.
      if you are already in Poland and already have a card, they can straight away
      start with procedures to apply for work permit.

      thats major info. If you have questions ask - I'll do my best to help
      • analilia Re: How long it takes to get temporary residence 28.07.05, 16:58
        Thank You everybody for all Your informations!!! All that procedures in
        Poland...
        • kiwigirl Re: How long it takes to get temporary residence 29.07.05, 14:05
          yes... you must have lots of time and lots of patience. and remember that they
          like their time limits and correct order...
    • wertom2000 Re: How long it takes to get temporary residence 29.07.05, 20:58
      visit www.mazowieckie.pl/news.php?id=891
      It the website of Urzad Wojewodzki of Mazowsze, but the procedure is the same
      as everywhere. It may take up to three months to get the permit, but it varies
      in different parts of Poland - in my town it takes 40 days, if you submit the
      application with all the needed evidence. After that time your spouse receives
      the permit and he/she is ready to start working (especially if meanwhile he/she
      got pesel and nip). If you want to know more about issues realated to being
      married to a foreigner in Poland visit www.obcokrajowcy.republika.pl
      You can also subscribe to the mailing list and ask questions to people with
      simmilar problems/experiences.
    • nasza_maggie Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 03.08.05, 16:36
      Interesting link:

      www.euroinfo.org.pl/?a=2332
      • mwanginjagi Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 09.02.06, 23:00
        Don't dare go back to poland ... your husband will have a little hell on
        earth... I can guarantee that... Poland is a known destination of making normal
        foreigners crazy and the only thing that will keep him from being completely
        insane is Polish beer and public houses for quickies...

        Regards
        • realitycheck Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 09.02.06, 23:21
          > Don't dare go back to poland ... your husband will have a little hell on
          > earth... I can guarantee that... Poland is a known destination of making normal
          >
          > foreigners crazy and the only thing that will keep him from being completely
          > insane is Polish beer and public houses for quickies...
          >
          > Regards

          Well, he will survive just fine then. wink
          • mwanginjagi Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 11.02.06, 22:47
            Realitycheck,

            LMAO ... I guess you have a point... in retrospect, what the Polish system does
            to a foreigner seeking to stay and the frustrations thereof is to kill your
            ego.. you fight so hard for so long for something that is supposed to be
            forthright that we loose the strength to do something meaningful with your
            life.. My advise, if you are coming with big bucks to you can brush sholders
            with a few elite in Polish politics... then Poland is a heaven on earth...
            you'll have Returns of investments in Millions within a short time.. but if you
            are coming into Poland to check out how things work... the get prepared
            psychologically... you've got to be strong to make it SANE

            Pozdrawiam
            /Mwangi
    • chris-joe Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 12.02.06, 05:35
      Any idea if/how bringing one's same-sex partner to Poland would be possible?

      For now it's just a hypothetical question. We're both Canadian citizens (+ I'm
      a Polish citizen as well), not married yet but probably soon will be.

      Is same-sex marriage recognized in Poland at all?


      • hardenfelt Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 12.02.06, 07:02
        chris-joe napisał:

        > Any idea if/how bringing one's same-sex partner to Poland would be possible?
        >
        > For now it's just a hypothetical question. We're both Canadian citizens (+ I'm
        > a Polish citizen as well), not married yet but probably soon will be.
        >
        > Is same-sex marriage recognized in Poland at all?

        To my knowledge the concept of same sex marriage is not mentioned in any Polish
        law and it will definitely not be the basis for a residence card. The same goes
        for a registered partnership (same sex as well as opposite sex). These rules
        are unlikely to change as long as the present government is in power.

        Though I’m not sure about it same sex marriage and registered partnership might
        be recognized in specific areas such as inheritance tax or give certain rights
        if your partner is at a hospital and he or she is unable to express his will.

        Also there might be certain rights I accordance with EU-law. In my opinion
        Poland will have to recognize a registered partnership or a marriage in another
        EU-country if You are working in another EU-country when you marry and return
        to Poland under the provisions for migrating EU-workers. In other words, You
        should work for i.e. 6 months in Holland, enter into a registered partnership
        there and then return to Poland. As the rules a rather complicated You should
        check it out with a European migration lawyer if You want to use this one.


      • mwanginjagi Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 13.02.06, 02:16
        chris-joe napisał:

        > Any idea if/how bringing one's same-sex partner to Poland would be possible?
        >
        > For now it's just a hypothetical question. We're both Canadian citizens (+
        I'm
        > a Polish citizen as well), not married yet but probably soon will be.
        >
        > Is same-sex marriage recognized in Poland at all?
        >
        >


        Chris-Joe,

        I have some advise for you. Get Born again and God will help you kill all the
        desires of your sinful flesh that's going on in your life!!! The bible says
        that unless a Man is Born again, He shall not inherit the kingdom of God and
        the wages of sin is death!!! Same-sex thing is contrary to God's word and he
        says that this is punishable by going to hell and all... it's not even natural.
        But God loves you and He send His beloved Son in sinful flesh on the account of
        Sin, He condemned sin in the flesh (Rom. 8:4). It's only Jesus that can set you
        free from all sin and bondage. He can break the shackles that are holding you..
        and you know the lifestyle you are living is not bringing no Joy nor peace...
        come to Jesus and repent of your sin and He will save you (John 1:1-13) "He
        came to His own and His own recieved Him not, but as to as many as recieved
        Him, He gave them Power to become the Children of God. Who are born, not of
        blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of Man , but of God"...
        and in 1 corinthians the bible says "now is the day of your salvation"...
        Dude... you must be born again...

        Last one , Rom 10:10 "With the heart a man believeth unto righteousness, but
        with the mouth, Confession is made unto salvation".. So if you repent (turn
        away from your sinful ways) and confess Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, you
        shall be saved... There is only one way to God, not thru Budha or others, but
        through Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God...

        John 3:16 "For God so Loved the world, that He send His only begotten Son, that
        whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, But have evalasting life. For God
        did not send His son into the world to condemn the world... but that the World
        through Him Might be saved"

        If you would like more information on how to Get to a place where you can know
        God's love and His uburdant grace... just shoot me a private email

        Pozdrawiam
        /Mwangi
        • russh Re: How long it takes to get temporary residance 13.02.06, 08:17
          mwanginjagi napisał:

          > chris-joe napisał:
          >
          > > Any idea if/how bringing one's same-sex partner to Poland would be possib
          > le?
          > >
          > > For now it's just a hypothetical question. We're both Canadian citizens
          > (+
          > I'm
          > > a Polish citizen as well), not married yet but probably soon will be.
          > >
          > > Is same-sex marriage recognized in Poland at all?
          > >
          > >
          >
          >
          > Chris-Joe,
          >
          > I have some advise for you. Get Born again and God will help you kill all the
          > desires of your sinful flesh that's going on in your life!!! The bible says
          > that unless a Man is Born again, He shall not inherit the kingdom of God and
          > the wages of sin is death!!! Same-sex thing is contrary to God's word and he
          > says that this is punishable by going to hell and all... it's not even natural.

          Now I understand why you were one of the few Africans in Poland! Please stay
          away - the younger generation that I've met are praying for a modern
          less-discriminating Poland, so please give them what they want.

          Chris-Joe, The truth is that Poland is currently very bigoted; Warsaw is less so
          (in fact the City voted against the current president and his party in the last
          elections). The younger (under 40's) generation that I see are very different;
          more liberal culturally, and more free-market orientated politically.
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