Los latinos en Varsovia o en Polonia?

20.08.05, 17:43
Hola!
Quisiera preguntarles por una parte como les gusta Polonia, y por otra, que
les molesta aca.
Que tal la comida (algunos amigos me contaron que "pierogi" les saben como
empanades crudas!!! jejejeje)
Que opinan del pais? de sus costumbres? Que les hace mas falta aca?
Como se encuentran con la gente polaca y con sus habitos?
etc....
    • usenetposts Re: Los latinos en Varsovia o en Polonia? 20.08.05, 21:49
      paluemiy78 napisała:

      > Hola!
      > Quisiera preguntarles por una parte como les gusta Polonia, y por otra, que
      > les molesta aca.
      > Que tal la comida (algunos amigos me contaron que "pierogi" les saben como
      > empanades crudas!!! jejejeje)

      It's possible to fry them in breadcrumbs after boiling them. My wife sometimes
      makes them that way for me. In Moscow, they get served that way in so-called
      Japanese restaurants. They are obviously still less spicy that an empanada in a
      Mexican restaurant should be, though.

      Sorry for the gringo language, but my Castillian is so rusty it would probably
      be even less comprehensible.
    • gustavinho Re: Los latinos en Varsovia o en Polonia? 24.08.05, 23:12
      paluemiy78 napisała:

      > Hola!
      > Quisiera preguntarles por una parte como les gusta Polonia, y por otra, que
      > les molesta aca.
      > Que tal la comida (algunos amigos me contaron que "pierogi" les saben como
      > empanades crudas!!! jejejeje)
      > Que opinan del pais? de sus costumbres? Que les hace mas falta aca?
      > Como se encuentran con la gente polaca y con sus habitos?
      > etc....

      Me gusta la lengua, no me gustan los racistas,los precios de Varsovia(tengo en
      mente principalmente los calvos).Detesto golabki,bigos es bueno. Me gusta
      conocer polacas que hablan espano/portugues wink. No me gusta cuando te fuerzan a
      beber wodka.
      De donde eres chica?
      • icaro hay unos cuantos... 28.08.05, 10:57
        gustavinho napisał:
        > Me gusta la lengua, no me gustan los racistas,los precios de Varsovia(tengo en
        > mente principalmente los calvos).
        +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

        ya veo... sad

        eres desagradable,gustavinho...

        forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=29887&w=26938726&a=28222124
        estas faltando al respeto a muchas personas...

        un saludo desde españa.

        www.poloniamadryt.net/forum/index.php
        www.poloniamadryt.net
        • usenetposts Re: hay unos cuantos... 28.08.05, 13:42
          icaro napisał:

          > gustavinho napisał:
          > > Me gusta la lengua, no me gustan los racistas,los precios de Varsovia(ten
          > go en
          > > mente principalmente los calvos).
          > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
          >
          > ya veo... sad
          >
          > eres desagradable,gustavinho...
          >
          > forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=29887&w=26938726&a=28222124
          > estas faltando al respeto a muchas personas...
          >

          Gustavinho, I hope you'll take that lesson to heart, and remember it for a long
          time.

          And what have you got against Calvinists anyway, may I ask?
          • gustavinho Brazilian guy shot dead and your comments 28.08.05, 17:56
            usenetposts napisał:

            > icaro napisał:
            >
            > > gustavinho napisał:
            > > > Me gusta la lengua, no me gustan los racistas,los precios de Varsov
            > ia(ten
            > > go en
            > > > mente principalmente los calvos).
            > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
            > >
            > > ya veo... sad
            > >
            > > eres desagradable,gustavinho...
            > >
            > > forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=29887&w=26938726&a=28222124
            > > estas faltando al respeto a muchas personas...
            > >
            >
            > Gustavinho, I hope you'll take that lesson to heart, and remember it for a
            long
            >
            > time.

            By the way, uncle Davies, you wrote a lot of bullshit about that Brazilian guy
            shot dead by your English police,who lied a lot to protect their own skin and
            get away with it. You said that you`ll never have visited a country without a
            visa and he had no clean hands at all
            > Before Poland adhered to the EU,many foreigners worked here without a work
            visa,including Swedes,Americans and i`m pretty sure Englishmen as well. So are
            they better than the Brazilian?. It`s a pity that not many people read your
            disgusting comments about that Brazilian guy. At least not only me was the one
            critical,there was other Polish guy who had his saying there and in a very
            proper way. You`re here for a long time, i`m 100% sure that you didn`t get the
            work visa immediately, so in a way you had taught English i suppose without a
            work visa in the beginning,every one knows that it takes time to get this
            visa. Before criticing others, look in your own backyard first.You showed an
            utter lack of respect and feeling towards that guy`s death, concentrating on
            the fact that he was without a work visa, although he had a residence permit.
            Tell me how many Englishmen,Americans worked here(prior to Poland`s entry to
            the EU) without a work visa? No doubt about that:Lots of them! This is
            hypocrisy. I got very pissed off with your foolish comments

            Free Wales and Scotland! Cymry ar byth!
            >
            • usenetposts Re: Brazilian guy shot dead and your comments 28.08.05, 18:32
              gustavinho napisał:

              >
              > By the way, uncle Davies, you wrote a lot of bullshit about that Brazilian guy
              > shot dead by your English police,who lied a lot to protect their own skin and
              > get away with it. You said that you`ll never have visited a country without a
              > visa and he had no clean hands at all

              I did say so. I think going places without paying attention to the visa
              formalities is bloody stupid, and that anyone who does that and gets shot in
              part because of it can complain to no-one but Charles Darwin, since his own
              recklessness and folly took him out of the gene pool. Brazil will be the
              stronger country for having one less idiot, and actually Da Silva should be
              thanking us for it.

              Do you have a problem with that? Do you think it's great when people from the
              Portuguese speaking world misbehave in Europe and you think we should pat them
              on the backsides anyway?

              > > Before Poland adhered to the EU,many foreigners worked here without a wor
              > k
              > visa,including Swedes,Americans and i`m pretty sure Englishmen as well. So
              are
              > they better than the Brazilian?.

              Let me tell you this, I don't think that very many of them did, actually. I
              have for example work permits for all my time when they were legally required,
              and as someone who's job it was to advise a lot of entrants to this market I
              don't know of any of them who failed to do so. When auditing foreign businesses
              I used to make a point of checking that point, as the penalities were high and
              I would have had to ask for financial reserves for them.

              I think you have no authority to make your claim that foreigners in Poland did
              not look after their formalities, and if you want to back that up then please
              provide statistics from the wydzial ewidencji ludzkosci and compare that to the
              information available on companies with foreign capital from the Glowny Urzad
              statystyczny, and see if it doesn't tie up.

              But you won't do that, for you are but a hot-air merchant. One can tell it at a
              glance.

              > It`s a pity that not many people read your
              > disgusting comments about that Brazilian guy. At least not only me was the
              one
              > critical,there was other Polish guy who had his saying there and in a very
              > proper way.

              People are always more than welcome to give feedback to my comments.

              If people allow their patriotism to come before their good sense, then their
              comment will be stupid. Such as the comment that it's fine to run from the
              police in a city that's just had a serious terrorist attack when you live in
              the same house as an Arab terrorist suspect.

              The police have shoot to kill powers in London, and they will do so if they
              suspect a suicide bomber, for the simple reason that the people standing by ARE
              OF MORE VALUE THAN THE TERRORIST SCUM who wants to blow them up. Now if Mr
              Menendez had been standing next to a real suicide bomber that day and the
              police had shot that man and killed him, then he would have been grateful, and
              all his family would have been full of admiration for the tough policies which
              saved his son's life.

              And maybe, out of his gratitude, he would have run along and gotten himself
              legal in my country, instead of stealing work from the people who pay taxes.

              And maybe, just maybe, if they took an example from us and had proper policing
              in Brazil, some of their cities wouldn't have some of the worst crime rates in
              the world.


              >You`re here for a long time, i`m 100% sure that you didn`t get the
              > work visa immediately, so in a way you had taught English

              I never taught English. I was always a public accountant. A public accountant
              cannot get his formalities wrong. If people asked me to teach them English, I
              refused to do so, although I usually agreed to give people a FREE lesson on how
              to teach languages to themselves, as I disagree with learning languages from
              lessons, and believe that to learn a language you have to take ownership of the
              process, and put the time in. But I never earned a penny explaining that to
              people, even though for some it was the best language lesson they ever had in
              their lives.

              You seem to be 100% about something which is 100% false. You should, like, do
              something aboot that.

              > i suppose without a
              > work visa in the beginning,every one knows that it takes time to get this
              > visa. Before criticing others, look in your own backyard first.You showed an
              > utter lack of respect and feeling towards that guy`s death, concentrating on
              > the fact that he was without a work visa, although he had a residence permit.

              He put himself in a position where he had to run from the police. He didn't
              behave like an innocent man. A dead jerk is still a jerk and not a saint. What
              we have here is a dead jerk who runs from the police. I don't respect that. I'm
              not gonna respect that.

              > Tell me how many Englishmen,Americans worked here(prior to Poland`s entry to
              > the EU) without a work visa? No doubt about that:Lots of them! This is
              > hypocrisy. I got very pissed off with your foolish comments

              Name a single one of them.

              You could not have been pissed off at my foolish comments because Uncle Davey
              don't make "foolish comments", geezer. You may have been pissed off at my
              comments, but that is because you let your fellow feeling for another Brazilian
              blind you to the fact that he was a jerk who ran from the police.

              And people who put their nationalism before their logic are generally thick
              mental retards, by the way.

              I just thought you needed to know that.

              > Free Wales and Scotland! Cymry ar byth!

              With all packets of Daz.

              That should be "Cymru am byth" by the way.

              Diolch a nos da.
              • gustavinho Re: Brazilian guy shot dead and your comments 28.08.05, 19:12
                usenetposts napisał:

                > gustavinho napisał:
                >
                > >
                > > By the way, uncle Davies, you wrote a lot of bullshit about that Brazilia
                > n guy
                > > shot dead by your English police,who lied a lot to protect their own skin
                > and
                > > get away with it. You said that you`ll never have visited a country witho
                > ut a
                > > visa and he had no clean hands at all
                >
                > I did say so. I think going places without paying attention to the visa
                > formalities is bloody stupid, and that anyone who does that and gets shot in
                > part because of it can complain to no-one but Charles Darwin, since his own
                > recklessness and folly took him out of the gene pool. Brazil will be the
                > stronger country for having one less idiot, and actually Da Silva should be
                > thanking us for it.
                >
                > Do you have a problem with that? Do you think it's great when people from the
                > Portuguese speaking world misbehave in Europe and you think we should pat
                them
                > on the backsides anyway?
                >
                > > > Before Poland adhered to the EU,many foreigners worked here without
                > a wor
                > > k
                > > visa,including Swedes,Americans and i`m pretty sure Englishmen as well. S
                > o
                > are
                > > they better than the Brazilian?.
                >
                > Let me tell you this, I don't think that very many of them did, actually. I
                > have for example work permits for all my time when they were legally
                required,
                > and as someone who's job it was to advise a lot of entrants to this market I
                > don't know of any of them who failed to do so. When auditing foreign
                businesses
                >
                > I used to make a point of checking that point, as the penalities were high
                and
                > I would have had to ask for financial reserves for them.
                >
                > I think you have no authority to make your claim that foreigners in Poland
                did
                > not look after their formalities, and if you want to back that up then please
                > provide statistics from the wydzial ewidencji ludzkosci and compare that to
                the
                >
                > information available on companies with foreign capital from the Glowny Urzad
                > statystyczny, and see if it doesn't tie up.
                >
                > But you won't do that, for you are but a hot-air merchant. One can tell it at
                a
                >
                > glance.
                >
                > > It`s a pity that not many people read your
                > > disgusting comments about that Brazilian guy. At least not only me was th
                > e
                > one
                > > critical,there was other Polish guy who had his saying there and in a ver
                > y
                > > proper way.
                >
                > People are always more than welcome to give feedback to my comments.
                >
                > If people allow their patriotism to come before their good sense, then their
                > comment will be stupid. Such as the comment that it's fine to run from the
                > police in a city that's just had a serious terrorist attack when you live in
                > the same house as an Arab terrorist suspect.
                >
                > The police have shoot to kill powers in London, and they will do so if they
                > suspect a suicide bomber, for the simple reason that the people standing by
                ARE
                >
                > OF MORE VALUE THAN THE TERRORIST SCUM who wants to blow them up. Now if Mr
                > Menendez had been standing next to a real suicide bomber that day and the
                > police had shot that man and killed him, then he would have been grateful,
                and
                > all his family would have been full of admiration for the tough policies
                which
                > saved his son's life.
                >
                > And maybe, out of his gratitude, he would have run along and gotten himself
                > legal in my country, instead of stealing work from the people who pay taxes.
                >
                > And maybe, just maybe, if they took an example from us and had proper
                policing
                > in Brazil, some of their cities wouldn't have some of the worst crime rates
                in
                > the world.
                >
                >
                > >You`re here for a long time, i`m 100% sure that you didn`t get the
                > > work visa immediately, so in a way you had taught English
                >
                > I never taught English. I was always a public accountant. A public accountant
                > cannot get his formalities wrong. If people asked me to teach them English, I
                > refused to do so, although I usually agreed to give people a FREE lesson on
                how
                >
                > to teach languages to themselves, as I disagree with learning languages from
                > lessons, and believe that to learn a language you have to take ownership of
                the
                >
                > process, and put the time in. But I never earned a penny explaining that to
                > people, even though for some it was the best language lesson they ever had in
                > their lives.
                >
                > You seem to be 100% about something which is 100% false. You should, like, do
                > something aboot that.
                >
                > > i suppose without a
                > > work visa in the beginning,every one knows that it takes time to get this
                >
                > > visa. Before criticing others, look in your own backyard first.You showed
                > an
                > > utter lack of respect and feeling towards that guy`s death, concentrating
                > on
                > > the fact that he was without a work visa, although he had a residence per
                > mit.
                >
                > He put himself in a position where he had to run from the police. He didn't
                > behave like an innocent man. A dead jerk is still a jerk and not a saint.
                What
                > we have here is a dead jerk who runs from the police. I don't respect that.
                I'm
                >
                > not gonna respect that.
                >
                > > Tell me how many Englishmen,Americans worked here(prior to Poland`s entry
                > to
                > > the EU) without a work visa? No doubt about that:Lots of them! This is
                > > hypocrisy. I got very pissed off with your foolish comments
                >
                > Name a single one of them.
                >
                > You could not have been pissed off at my foolish comments because Uncle Davey
                > don't make "foolish comments", geezer. You may have been pissed off at my
                > comments, but that is because you let your fellow feeling for another
                Brazilian
                >
                > blind you to the fact that he was a jerk who ran from the police.
                >
                > And people who put their nationalism before their logic are generally thick
                > mental retards, by the way.
                >
                > I just thought you needed to know that.
                >
                > > Free Wales and Scotland! Cymry ar byth!
                >
                > With all packets of Daz.
                >
                > That should be "Cymru am byth" by the way.
                >
                > Diolch a nos da.
                >
                Your opinion didn`t convince me at all. You have to read more the papers, there
                are many contradictions in the police`s version. He didn`t run from the police,
                the cameras show him walking smoothly and picking up a free newspaper and he
                only ran in order not to miss the train. The Guardian,Daily Mirror,The
                Independent told a very different story contradicting the version that your
                police tried to make us stomach. Regarding second subject: a Swede told me he
                had worked here without a work permit(teaching Swedish in one of those Empiks)
                and i knew an American who used to do it in a school of foreign
                languages.that`s the so called moonlighting. So it seems that i have some
                authority to talk about this subject. And who knows how many of them worked
                teaching English without a proper work permit(prior to Poland`s adhesion to the
                EU)or even without any at all? That`s an open question...

                Nos da a hwyl
                • usenetposts Re: Brazilian guy shot dead and your comments 28.08.05, 20:16
                  Well I cannot quote you this time because you didn't do any snipping and so the
                  bit you added at the end was too far down to copy-paste.

                  Summing up, I would like to say the following.

                  1. If the policeman didn't act in accordance with instructions, then obviously
                  he will be disciplined. If he acted in accordance with instructions, then the
                  heat for the error will be on the people higher up, but whichever way, the
                  facts of the case are going to be mulled over until we have as good an idea as
                  possible of what happened. Personally, I don't thing the job of policing us
                  easy and we could do without these extra issues making their job more difficult
                  than it already is. Later on our police will not dare shoot when they should be
                  shooting as they will fear the consequences in case there is a error.

                  2. Your anecdotal evidence about people who did work here in Poland without
                  settling their formalities doesn't mean that what mr Menendez is right. These
                  people you know who claim they had not got their papers in order did wrong, and
                  they were only speculating on light treatment becasue they understood that
                  Poland was anxious to appease their nations in exchange for EU membership, but
                  I wonder whether the same people would do the same things in places like
                  Bialorus and Russia.

                  They did wrong, Matey, they should not have done it, and has they ended up in
                  trouble for it, even with a mistaken identity and a shootingm, then they would
                  have been partly to blame too. I don't make one rule for northern Europeans and
                  Statesiders and another for Brazilians. This is Europe, not America, and we
                  don't have any culture of treating Latin people any different to anyone else.
          • gustavinho Re: hay unos cuantos... 28.08.05, 17:59
            usenetposts napisał:

            > icaro napisał:
            >
            > > gustavinho napisał:
            > > > Me gusta la lengua, no me gustan los racistas,los precios de Varsov
            > ia(ten
            > > go en
            > > > mente principalmente los calvos).
            > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
            > >
            > > ya veo... sad
            > >
            > > eres desagradable,gustavinho...
            > >
            > > forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=29887&w=26938726&a=28222124
            > > estas faltando al respeto a muchas personas...

            Los calvos tengo en mente los skinheads!
            > >
            >
            > Gustavinho, I hope you'll take that lesson to heart, and remember it for a
            long
            >
            > time.
            >
            > And what have you got against Calvinists anyway, may I ask?
            I wrote calvos in the sense of skinheads. Your Spanish needs a brushing up
            >
            • usenetposts Re: hay unos cuantos... 28.08.05, 18:35
              gustavinho napisał:

              > usenetposts napisał:
              >
              > > icaro napisał:
              > >
              > > > gustavinho napisał:
              > > > > Me gusta la lengua, no me gustan los racistas,los precios de
              > Varsov
              > > ia(ten
              > > > go en
              > > > > mente principalmente los calvos).
              > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
              > > >
              > > > ya veo... sad
              > > >
              > > > eres desagradable,gustavinho...
              > > >
              > > > forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=29887&w=26938726&a=28222124
              > > > estas faltando al respeto a muchas personas...
              >
              > Los calvos tengo en mente los skinheads!
              > > >
              > >
              > > Gustavinho, I hope you'll take that lesson to heart, and remember it for
              > a
              > long
              > >
              > > time.
              > >
              > > And what have you got against Calvinists anyway, may I ask?
              > I wrote calvos in the sense of skinheads. Your Spanish needs a brushing up
              > >

              It certainly does. I'll have to go there again some time.

              Thanks for the clarification.
            • icaro Re: pero...que dices??? 28.08.05, 19:28
              gustavinho napisał:
              > I wrote calvos in the sense of skinheads. Your Spanish needs a brushing up.

              +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

              No me hagas reír, anda. mi español es bastante mejor que el tuyo... wink
              bueno,no importa. solo queria comentarte que llamar a otras persona de esta
              manera:
              +++++++++++++++++++++++++
              Vete al infierno,lesbiana!
              ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
              es de mala educación, ademas me confirmas que
              eres un HOMOFOBO!!!!

              adios.

              • inecita Re: pero...que dices??? 28.08.05, 20:27
                en espańol de Espańa se suele decir "cabeza rapada" para un "skinhead" mientras
                la palabra "calvo" normalmente se usa sólo para los a los que el pelo les ha
                quitado La Madre Naturaleza, si alguien dispone de otra distinción concerniente
                al tema que me informe, por favor smile
                ###
                Y gustavinho, mira, con lo de "la lesbiana" te has pasado de verdad... Dime: ?
                Como lo sabes si una es lesbiana si ni siquiera la has visto? O quizas usas la
                palabra "lesbiana" como una palabra despectiva???? Por favor... .
              • gustavinho Re: pero...que dices??? 28.08.05, 20:45
                icaro napisał:

                > gustavinho napisał:
                > > I wrote calvos in the sense of skinheads. Your Spanish needs a brushing u
                > p.
                >
                > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

                Tengo un nivel alto de espanol y eso tu no me vas a quitar.Segundo en tus
                intentos ciegos en criticarme,no prestaste atencion que la frase habia sido
                dicha a tu predecesor. Tercer, la chica me ha ofendido sin razon.
                Lee con mas atencion,pues has demostrado arrogancia y futilidad.
                >
                > No me hagas reír, anda. mi español es bastante mejor que el tuyo... wink
                > bueno,no importa. solo queria comentarte que llamar a otras persona de esta
                > manera:
                > +++++++++++++++++++++++++
                > Vete al infierno,lesbiana!
                > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                > es de mala educación, ademas me confirmas que
                > eres un HOMOFOBO!!!!
                >
                > adios.
                >
                • paluemiy78 Re: pero...que dices??? 29.08.05, 16:04
                  uyyy y yo solo queria saber de los latinos en Polonia....
                  pero veo que el foro se puso bastante violento....

                  a ver que dicen mis amigos latinos si la proxima vez frio los pierogis en el
                  pan rallado! jejejjeje

                  saludo
                  • usenetposts Re: pero...que dices??? 29.08.05, 23:35
                    > uyyy y yo solo queria saber de los latinos en Polonia....
                    > pero veo que el foro se puso bastante violento....

                    Well, that's the latin temperament for you. All in fun, though.

                    >
                    > a ver que dicen mis amigos latinos si la proxima vez frio los pierogis en el
                    > pan rallado! jejejjeje

                    Smacznego.

                    >
                    > saludo

                    Vaya con Dios.
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