Any English speaking problems?

27.10.05, 16:41
Hey guys,

I have just been wondering if we Poles have a good command of English. The
thing is, last week I met a guy from India who came to Warsaw on business, not
only did the service staff at Hotel Sobieski had problems in communication but
all the cheques he had to sign were in Polish as well. Have you ever
encountered any problems like the one above? How would you evaluate ppl's
English speaking abilities and skilles in Poland.

Greetings to ya All
Ags
    • kylie1 Re: Any English speaking problems? 28.10.05, 00:50
      I would want to know what his English was like. I find their English to be very
      difficult to understand at times... Perhaps it has something to do with
      that?....

      smile Kylie
      • irmogirl Re: Any English speaking problems? 28.10.05, 11:56
        Actually, u are wrong dear lady. No matter what ppl say about ppl from India and
        their poor command of English, the guy is proficient and have no difficulties in
        speaking. Anyway, it freaked me out for I had to translate stuff to him and so on...
    • niacin Re: Any English speaking problems? 28.10.05, 07:33
      OK, first of all your text should read like this:

      I have just been wondering if we Poles have a good command of English. The
      thing is, last week I met a guy from India who came to Warsaw on business, not
      only did the service staff at Hotel Sobieski (had) HAVE problems (in) WITH
      communicati(on)NG WITH HIM, but ALSO all the (cheques) FORMS he had to sign
      were in Polish (as well). Have you ever encountered any problems like the one
      above? How would you evaluate ppl's English speaking abilities and skill(e)s in
      Poland.

      Overall B+

      Further,I don't think that a lack of forms in English at a hotel proves
      anyone's inadequate command of English. I'd say it's just poor judgement on the
      part of the hotel's management. No more, no less. I'm surprised that this has
      taken place at the Sobieski. I stayed there a few years ago but can't honestly
      recall whether the forms were only in Polish. I don't think so. But staff
      spoke English reasonably well.

      As to the Poles having or not having a good command of English, every second
      one I meet who claims to speak the lingo well turns out to be a (slight)
      disappointment.
      • irmogirl Re: Any English speaking problems? 28.10.05, 11:59
        That is what I am saying...I had to be his personal translator in a way cause
        even the room service was into Polish. Similar impressions I had at pubs and
        shops where ppl talked in Polish only. To a foreigner who has no idea of Polish
        and its pronunciation it must be pretty stressful...
        • niacin Re: Any English speaking problems? 28.10.05, 12:25
          Not more stressful than for anyone who does not speak a local language in a
          foreign country. I don't see why Poles working, say, in pubs, in Poland,
          should be speaking English or anything else apart from Polish. After all when
          you go to the UK or the US of A, do you expect them to speak Polish? Don't
          think so. So, to each his own, so to speak.

          As to the Indians. I find their English vocabulary immensly reach, even if
          quaint at times. Many native speakers could learn a word or two from them and
          some grammar to boot.

          cheers
          • indianguy Re: Any English speaking problems? 28.10.05, 13:02
            Hi All...I found this discussion forum while browsing the web...Myslef an
            Indian n on a research visit to warsaw univ from germany. Personally I didnt
            had any problems with communicating people here in warsaw. I was living in
            germany from last couple of years n I would say u guys r far better in speaking
            english than compared to western europe(other than UK)....we speak english in a
            different accent like our native language hindi often called as hinglishsmile
            might be a little bit difficult to understand at the first instant...
            well its unfortunate to all the native speakers in their respective countries
            but one needs to accept tat english has became an international language...



            niacin napisał:

            > Not more stressful than for anyone who does not speak a local language in a
            > foreign country. I don't see why Poles working, say, in pubs, in Poland,
            > should be speaking English or anything else apart from Polish. After all when
            > you go to the UK or the US of A, do you expect them to speak Polish? Don't
            > think so. So, to each his own, so to speak.
            >
            > As to the Indians. I find their English vocabulary immensly reach, even if
            > quaint at times. Many native speakers could learn a word or two from them
            and
            > some grammar to boot.
            >
            > cheers
          • indianguy Re: Any English speaking problems? 28.10.05, 13:03
            Hi All...I found this discussion forum while browsing the web...Myslef an
            Indian n on a research visit to warsaw univ from germany. Personally I didnt
            had any problems with communicating people here in warsaw. I was living in
            germany from last couple of years n I would say u guys r far better in speaking
            english than compared to western europe(other than UK)....we speak english in a
            different accent like our native language hindi often called as hinglishsmile
            might be a little bit difficult to understand at the first instant...
            well its unfortunate to all the native speakers in their respective countries
            but one needs to accept tat english has became an international language...

            greetings from India...smile



            niacin napisał:

            > Not more stressful than for anyone who does not speak a local language in a
            > foreign country. I don't see why Poles working, say, in pubs, in Poland,
            > should be speaking English or anything else apart from Polish. After all when
            > you go to the UK or the US of A, do you expect them to speak Polish? Don't
            > think so. So, to each his own, so to speak.
            >
            > As to the Indians. I find their English vocabulary immensly reach, even if
            > quaint at times. Many native speakers could learn a word or two from them
            and
            > some grammar to boot.
            >
            > cheers
    • firemouse Re: Any English speaking problems? 28.10.05, 17:21
      Hi,

      I've been also wonderning why the hotel forms, which I used in the UK, were in
      English only. I found no one in Polish, it's really weird.... wink

      And seriously, I doubt there were Polish-only forms in Sobieski Hotel. I know a
      lot of foreigners staying there and never heard a rant about it.

      FM
      • chomskybornagain1 Re: Any English speaking problems? 30.10.05, 13:31
        imagine i once needed a foreign TT confirmation from Pekao SA for my foreign
        supplier. And what I got was a TT confirmation but in Polish only smile What's the
        use of a confirmatin for a foreign institution if it's in Polish.
        or take the passports: the name of the country on the cover is only in Polish
        which is absolutely useless. And the English name of the country is mentioned
        only once and hard to find. Some people can't find it believe me: I am a Pole
        living in China and they often ask me what country I am from (having checked my
        passport that is).

        Jarek
        • irmogirl Re: Any English speaking problems? 31.10.05, 09:36
          Yeah, that is a funny story indeed. Same happened to us, I mean my India friend
          for once he decided to leave the Sobieski Hotel all the cheques he was about to
          sign were in Polish. Where to put my signature he asked? and so on and so forth.
          We boast we are the members of the EU, but when it comes to our language
          proficiency, not just English one, we simply sux. And I am surprised that in
          places which are to a large extend used by foreigners, nobody attempts to
          improve and adjust hotel service (etc) to some European standards. lol
          • firemouse Re: Any English speaking problems? 01.11.05, 00:58
            irmogirl napisała:

            > Yeah, that is a funny story indeed. Same happened to us, I mean my India friend
            > for once he decided to leave the Sobieski Hotel all the cheques he was about to
            > sign were in Polish. Where to put my signature he asked? and so on and so forth
            > .
            > We boast we are the members of the EU, but when it comes to our language
            > proficiency, not just English one, we simply sux. And I am surprised that in
            > places which are to a large extend used by foreigners, nobody attempts to
            > improve and adjust hotel service (etc) to some European standards. lol


            So what. It is equally hard to find somebody speaking reasonable English in Germany or France, not mentioning Spain. Sorry, but I am not moved by this another how-do-we-suck story. I travelled half of the world and found English hotel forms in a non-English speaking country in Hilton only, but I am sure this is not the standard which we are discussing.

            And I have not found "German Federal Republic" anywhere on Deutsche Bundespass.

            So please, find some more reasonable examples.

            FM
            • niacin Re: Any English speaking problems? 01.11.05, 11:19
              Good on ya Firemouse. I also cannot recall anything in English on the French
              passports or the Finnish ones, although I could be wrong here.

              Secondly, a membership in the EU does not equate with any requirement to be a
              polyglot. Over the years I have stayed in a number of hotels in the UK, some of
              them quite upmarket, and the only language the staff spoke there was English.
              I'm discounting the fact that a number of the employees there come from the
              Baltic republics, other republics of the former SU and India or Pakistan and
              obviously speak languages other than English. But when it comes to the Brits
              themselves, English seems to be it, even thought they have been members of the
              EU for a bit longer than the Poles.

              cheers to all
              • chomskybornagain1 Re: Any English speaking problems? 03.11.05, 06:49
                Chinese and Japanes passports have the name of the country in English and that's
                and I guess it should be a world-wide standard.

                Jarek
              • ianek70 Re: Any English speaking problems? 03.11.05, 11:03
                niacin napisał:

                > Good on ya Firemouse. I also cannot recall anything in English on the French
                > passports or the Finnish ones, although I could be wrong here.

                Not only that, but on British passports instead of just saying "Britain" on the
                front, it says "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", so
                people in hotels, etc just look at it quickly and say "Eeee, Irlandia".

                I read recently about a pilot scheme where they're printing bilingual British
                passports (English/Welsh and English/Gaelic) which should make everything
                clearersmile
          • irmogirl Re: Any English speaking problems? 01.11.05, 12:06
            Well, you may think whatever you want, I was just voicing out my personal
            opinion and really this can be treated as how do we suck story for I have come
            to meet a great deal of foreigners in Poland whose only complaint was the bad
            command of English represented by Poles. Not knowing simple words in English
            when buying a chewing gum or asking for a vegeterian meal. LOL It may give
            somebody a REASONABLE headache lol
            • bartis_ervin No problems at all 03.11.05, 11:54

              FM you were right with what you said.

              On the other hand, me as a foreigner cannot and will not expect that everybody
              around me will speak in English. If I have problems in buying chewing gum maybe
              it is my fault because I didn't check the word in the dictionary. (And of
              course, I don't expect that the 53 year old lady who works in the Ruch place
              will suddenly speak English). Even if you are for a couple of days in a country,
              it is not so hard to learn 25 words.

              Ervin

              thebartiski.blogspot.com
        • usenetposts Re: Any English speaking problems? 01.11.05, 13:51
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    • waldek1610 it seems 90% of poles can't speak english at all.. 03.11.05, 12:27
      irmogirl napisała:

      > Hey guys,
      >
      > I have just been wondering if we Poles have a good command of English.


      No, the great majority of Poles do not have a slightest grasp of english
      language.
      Whenever I use some english word or frase and than provide translation for
      Polish folks here at Gazeta forums, poles living in Poland get irritated and
      angry that I dare to assume they don't speak english.

      But on the other hand whenever I wath BBC or any other english language station
      conducting interviews on the streets of Warsaw; 90% of peolpe either have a
      hard time answerig even to the simple questions or they say samething in
      polish...
      • firemouse Re: it seems 90% of poles can't speak english at 03.11.05, 22:20
        waldek1610 napisał:

        > conducting interviews on the streets of Warsaw; 90% of peolpe either have a
        > hard time answerig even to the simple questions or they say samething in
        > polish...

        It seems to be a requirement of the interviewers to answer the questions in local language - I have seen
        this in many TV interviews that the locals speak their language. Obviously, for the TV station it is easier
        to translate the speech than to count on the knowledge of a specific language which allows for smooth
        transfer of thoughts. This also adds the local flavour to the programme.

        But yes, we're not great at English. On the other hand, I observed that English are not great in Polish, so
        we get a draw here. smile

        FM
        • nasza_maggie Re: it seems 90% of poles can't speak english at 04.11.05, 13:22
          not great? They're rubbish!

          Watching the MTV EMAs Last night I was rather surprised to see that Borat who
          was from Kazachstan and presented the show, used Polish frases. Funny (!)

          Then again I think his sense of humour was awful too.
          It seems anything east of Berlin is Eastern Europe. MTV didn't do it's research
          and well, it made them look ridiculous.
          • usenetposts Re: it seems 90% of poles can't speak english at 04.11.05, 23:05
            nasza_maggie napisała:

            > not great? They're rubbish!
            >
            > Watching the MTV EMAs Last night I was rather surprised to see that Borat who
            > was from Kazachstan and presented the show, used Polish frases. Funny (!)
            >
            > Then again I think his sense of humour was awful too.
            > It seems anything east of Berlin is Eastern Europe. MTV didn't do it's
            research
            >
            > and well, it made them look ridiculous.
            >

            That's the Ali G spoof East European. He isn't supposed to be taken seriously.

            You need to see a couple of Ali G dvds. Once you get on his wavelength he is
            actually hilarious. One of the best comics there's ever been. The thing is, for
            those who don't know him, a cameo appearance on an awards ceremony could be a
            bit disorientating.
            • nasza_maggie Re: it seems 90% of poles can't speak english at 05.11.05, 00:36
              > >
              >
              > That's the Ali G spoof East European. He isn't supposed to be taken seriously.
              >
              > You need to see a couple of Ali G dvds. Once you get on his wavelength he is
              > actually hilarious. One of the best comics there's ever been. The thing is,
              for
              >
              davey dearest,
              i know all about the ali g syndrome. and i did like ali g.
              however, this thing of cohens at mtv, was a complete no no.
              so much for the 'free your mind' award and taking the piss out of kazahstan,
              gay people and making paedophile jokes.... it just was not funny in any way.

              But I guess that's because mtv just isn't funny anymore, there's no
              intelligence in any of the humour - it's just your avarage, least demanding
              type of entertainment.... which is quite sad and has nothing with mtv's 'we are
              all equal and let's love eachother' philosphy...
              oh well....
              • usenetposts Re: it seems 90% of poles can't speak english at 05.11.05, 02:11
                If MTV's humour programmes have been one thing, than that is controversial.

                Even if we go back to Beavis and Butthead, there were continual discussions
                between internet commentators as to whether the series glorified teenager
                ignorance or was simply holding teenager ignorance up to ridicule. I dare say
                it was in the eye of the beholder what they got out of it. What I took as the
                cartoonist deriding B&B as the pathetic side of American life, some people
                would have taken at face value.

                And I would have thought that you could say the same about the Borat character.
                Some people might say Ali G is ridiculing a kazachstani, but it appeared to me
                that he is ridiculing stereotypes and ignorance, as to anyone with a modicum of
                knowledge, which certainly includes Cohen, it's clear kazachstanies are not
                really anything like this.

                People could make up their mind about Ali G either - was he being offensive to
                blacks or not? Opinion was divided, but clearly Channel 4 would not have
                screened it, had they believed that he was.
        • nasza_maggie ps 04.11.05, 13:23
          And since when is it a requirement to speak English in Poland?
          So I don't know where the 90% came from. And I daren't imagine.
          • irmogirl Re: ps 05.11.05, 02:06
            It is not about any imposed requirement of Poles to speak fluent English but
            simple logic. Every time we are to welcome foreigners in our native country or
            let's say help them in every-day- situations, we simply fail. No menu stuff
            translated to English, no waiter/waitress able to communicate in
            English....Taking data into account, English has become one of the most
            important languages which is wordwide sorta spoken, not in Poland though. And I
            am not surprised somebody said 90%...I heard on the news only 27% of poles is
            able to understand or talk reasonably good English...so we still gotta train the
            rest...73% that is wink
          • waldek1610 Re: ps 05.11.05, 09:18
            nasza_maggie napisała:

            > And since when is it a requirement to speak English in Poland?
            > So I don't know where the 90% came from.

            In Germany or France speaking english is not required either, but somehow
            whenever they show similar BBC interviews on the streets of Paris or Berlin
            locals always answer the reporter in english.....

            I think that ignorance wont allow them to learn a foreign language...think
            Andrzej Lepper...
            • usenetposts Re: ps 05.11.05, 11:53
              waldek1610 napisał:

              > nasza_maggie napisała:
              >
              > > And since when is it a requirement to speak English in Poland?
              > > So I don't know where the 90% came from.
              >
              > In Germany or France speaking english is not required either, but somehow
              > whenever they show similar BBC interviews on the streets of Paris or Berlin
              > locals always answer the reporter in english.....
              >
              > I think that ignorance wont allow them to learn a foreign language...think
              > Andrzej Lepper...


              You say what you like about Lepper, but over the last few critical weeks he has
              conducted hinself with a lot more dignity, integrity and common sense than
              Donald Tuthk hath. Tuthk hath jutht gone on to thow uth what a Thor Luther he
              is.
              • nasza_maggie Re: ps 05.11.05, 14:16
                I don't know which part of Poland you guys have been to or when was the last
                time you were here, but I've never had any problems with people speaking
                english.

                What you're talking about is the typical psychological babble most people say
                from English speaking countries. Just because English is SEEN as one of the
                main languages to communicate, it doesn't mean every one HAS to. That is just a
                statement of ignorace, as far as I am concerned.
                Whenever I go away anywhere, I try to learn at least the BASIC words to
                communicate with the locals. That's the way to go about it. Not just fly out
                somewhere and EXPECT the locals to be able to communicate with YOU because you
                know English. That's what I like about Poland, this kind of resistance to the
                norm.

                If you go to outback OZ or somewhere in Texas do you expect them to speak
                Chinese or Spanish because most of the world does?

                Surveys? Oh please.... since when have they been a fundament to rely on? Let's
                just look at the last polish election surveys, yeah? smile

                Andrzej Lepper to me is no example. And in this case, as much as I cannot stand
                Andrew L, I have to agree with Davey. But then again, Andy L likes to play the
                populist note.
                • irmogirl Re: ps 05.11.05, 21:49
                  Actually I am from Warsaw and I do pop out my eyes when locals and ppl who shall
                  know at least basic English sux. You may talk about the resistence to the norm
                  or that we shall be proud for are different, but with this particular attitude
                  you introduced we will never open up for the Western Europe and what it has to
                  offer not to mention overseas area wink If we want to be a stronger country in a
                  united Europe changes have to happen.

                  The only thing which worries me we Poles, esp the younger generation are obliged
                  to learn English for at least 12 years (elementary schools than High Schools),
                  but even then less than 1/3 has that ease in keep any conversation going...
                  • russh Re: ps 06.11.05, 06:58
                    I have just started 'coaching' a few people here in English, and have 'talked'
                    to many youngsters. I believe it is right (for the kids) to have significant
                    exposure to English in school, as there is no doubt in my mind that English is
                    the 'International' medium for communication.

                    It would seem to me though the there is an over preoccupation with grammar (not
                    that it isn't essential), to the detriment of oral skills. This is a pity,
                    because it leaves the child with a great lack of confidence in the area (of
                    language) where there need it most, face-to-face communcation.

                    In my short time here, I have probably found less than one in ten people with
                    reasonable speech skills in English, although more are able to understand.

                    I'm sure it will get better, because in the small area that I operate, I see a
                    great wish to learn English, and to better oneself in general.
                  • firemouse Re: ps 07.11.05, 13:10
                    Eh, I do not know anything how long students are required to learn English, but
                    I remember that learning Russian for 8 years in the primary and secondary school
                    did not improve the language knowledge either, despite the similarity of the
                    language to Polish. Please do not count the resistance effect in the assessment.

                    Problems in actual language usage may not come from the length of the learning
                    period but rather from the method. However, I can say nothing about it as I am
                    not familiar with our school system.

                    But in the end I still cannot see where the problem is. You have helped your
                    friend in the hotel and this is in my view the best what you can do. You have
                    shown that Polish people are willing to help others and I think this is what he
                    will remeber in a long time, not the hotel forms. Moreover, I agree that he
                    should learn at least few basic words or buy a phrase book. whenever I go to a
                    non-English speaking country I try to learn at least few basic words, because I
                    cannot assume that *everybody* there speaks English. I rememeber a story, which
                    happened long ago in the Netherlands, where I have been looking for a certain
                    address. We all know that all Dutch speak at least few other languages, right?
                    Not so much, becaused it turned out that the only person who was able to show me
                    the way spoke only Dutch (or did not want to speak other language). I must admit
                    that at this time my knowledge of this beautiful language was very limited (to,
                    say, 20 words), but thankfully using all the words I knew I was able to find the
                    address. Would I rely on my English knowledge, this could last a bit more time.

                    And I think that the thesis of "resistance to the norm" is quite dangerous.
                    Please define "the norm". Speaking English?

                    FM
                • waldek1610 Re: ps 06.11.05, 06:41
                  nasza_maggie napisała:

                  > Not just fly out somewhere and EXPECT the locals to be able to communicate
                  > with YOU because you know English. That's what I like about Poland, this
                  > kind of resistance to the norm.

                  French are known to do same thing, as they ignore whoever is trying to
                  communicate on french soil in english, of course unless he or she happens to be
                  a valued customer with some US dollars to spend. In such case french forget
                  their pride in an instant,and show their proficiency in english, after whole
                  they have to support the remnants of their empire somehow...
                  • russh Re: ps 06.11.05, 07:04
                    I've never been a great lover of the French (typical Brit, I suppose), but I
                    just changed my mind.

                    Pragmatism at its best! Swallow your pride if it means sufferance!
                  • irmogirl Re: ps 06.11.05, 11:18
                    Yeah, French do not like English which is an obvious thing. All I am saying is
                    that we Poles have not much to offer in terms of English speaking skills.
                    Besides, I guess it is rooted in our culture and background to have resistance
                    to communicate in English. I do teach English for 7 years now and I am not
                    surprised ppl are rather sitting quiet and it is really a challenge to me to
                    make them speak and focus on a pair work. From my experience, they simply don't
                    wanna ridicule themselves and say something that would be mocked by other ppl. A
                    sense of control and different barriers in letting them speak. Kids are far more
                    natural and working with them is joy smile
                    • bartis_ervin Re: ps 06.11.05, 11:48

                      Whatever you say, more Poles are able to speak English than Italians or Spanish.
                      If you've been there for a longer period you know what I am talking about.

                      I would be interested in a survey made amongst youngsters: let's say 15-30 year
                      old. I would bet that the percent of English speakers is quite high. Again, I
                      don't expect a 45 year old electrician to learn English to help out a tourist on
                      the street.

                      In Warsaw I never had any problems in ordering in English. Not even in Sahara
                      kebabsmile

                      Ervin

                      thebartiski.blogspot.com
                    • niacin Re: ps 06.11.05, 22:32
                      Oh, what a load of stereotypical bollocks about the French not liking the
                      English or not wanting to speak the language if they know it.

                      Fair enough, and this goes particularly for the Yanks (careful of another
                      stereotype), but if one opens one’s mouth and rams an English phrase down the
                      Parisian throat by way of introduction, they take offence (and why not, really)
                      but if you attempt to introduce yourself in French saying that you don’t speak
                      French and then ask for assistance in English, they are more than happy to
                      help. Even more so in other cities and regional centres. Like every other folk,
                      they appreciate it if someone as much as tries to say a few words in their
                      language. Quite simple.
                      • russh Re: ps 07.11.05, 05:06
                        Another humorless expat (I assume).

                        You guys always take the wrong bait!
                        • niacin Re: ps 07.11.05, 06:48
                          Wrong, mate. A pragmatist with a particular dislike for stereotyping even if
                          disguised as humour.

                          cheers
                          • russh Re: ps 07.11.05, 07:12
                            Well, I'm all for pragmatism, and have no problem in acknowledging stereotyping
                            in humour: after all, possibly the majority (of humour) is based on it
                            (stereotyping).

                            Cheers

                            ps. So there's two of us that can't sleep!
                            • niacin Re: ps 07.11.05, 21:33
                              Ah, the sweet insomnia aided by a stong brew of caffeine, a drop of red and the
                              thoughts that refuse to go to sleep wink

                              cheerio
                          • usenetposts Re: ps 07.11.05, 23:17
                            niacin napisał:

                            > Wrong, mate. A pragmatist with a particular dislike for stereotyping even if
                            > disguised as humour.
                            >
                            > cheers

                            It's a sort of shorthand for humour, enabling brevity.

                            Let's consider a joke in the "dumb policeman" genre:

                            There are a group of people in a train compartment, and they start telling
                            jokes, all except for one small boy in the corner, who is listening intently,
                            and his mother. After a while, the topic turns to dumb police jokes, and after
                            a good dozen of these have passed with the boy still saying nothing, and
                            looking on intensely, one wag says "Why don't policemen eat pickled cucumbers?
                            Because they can't get their heads inside the jars". Then the boy pipes
                            up "That's simply not true, what you're saying. My dad's a policeman, and he
                            does eat pickled cucumbers!"

                            Well for a moment there is an embarrassed silence, and his mother
                            adds "...although I have to admit, we do buy them in barrels".

                            How is anyone gonna tell that joke without recourse to stereotypes?
                            • niacin Re: ps 08.11.05, 00:14
                              A joke is a joke is a joke.

                              peace
                    • firemouse Re: ps 07.11.05, 13:45
                      "Re: ps
                      irmogirl 06.11.05, 11:18 + odpowiedz

                      (...) I do teach English for 7 years now and I am not
                      surprised ppl are rather sitting quiet and it is really a challenge to me to
                      make them speak and focus on a pair work.(...)"

                      You teach English?

                      Hard work for us Poles to learn a language then!

                      FM
    • montana04 Re: Any English speaking problems? 22.11.05, 21:26
      you suck more than I do Irmo
      heheheheeheehe


      irmogirl napisała:

      > Hey guys,
      >
      > I have just been wondering if we Poles have a good command of English. The
      > thing is, last week I met a guy from India who came to Warsaw on business, not
      > only did the service staff at Hotel Sobieski had problems in communication but
      > all the cheques he had to sign were in Polish as well. Have you ever
      > encountered any problems like the one above? How would you evaluate ppl's
      > English speaking abilities and skilles in Poland.
      >
      > Greetings to ya All
      > Ags
      • usenetposts Re: Any English speaking problems? 25.11.05, 02:01
        montana04 napisał:

        > you suck more than I do Irmo
        > heheheheeheehe
        >
        >

        It's worrying that you should admit to sucking any at all....
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