West has more rights, because it can afford it!?

13.01.06, 08:52
One of our new posters, uses FBI style of questioning to brake Waldek's will,
see by yourself:

missus.c napisal;

> too many questions for him at once, I thinksmile
> But I'll add these:
> How old are you?
> Where exactly do you live?
> How long have you lived away from Polska?
> Simple enough, I hope.

It might have been if she was and FBI agent.....
I have asked you guys a simple question on Western Europe's political morals,
(why do they consider Germany cicivilized bespite their barbarism during
WWII, and Poland as backward and irrevelant despite its accomplishments???)
and 40 answers down the road, not the single one offered reasonable answer.

Instead almost everybody seemed to resort to tactics to divert everyones
attention to Waldek, offering personal offences instead.

Western arrogance seems so great that you choose to ignore logic. Recent
developments with Iran renewing nuclear program, showed us how arrogant west
is towards those that are considered "different".

How in the World can you forbid Iran to produce nuclear bombs if you have one
yourself (USA, Izrael, Russia, Pakistan, India ect)

You might believe that letting Iran have nuclear bomb is like letting monkey
have it, but so some of people think about USA nuclear bombs. But for the
sake of equality, is not Iran entitled to bully USA and sniff for nuclear
bomb in USA as well? What's the difference? Does some have more right than
others?
    • varsovian Re: West has more rights, because it can afford i 13.01.06, 10:16
      (The Iranians run a totally loony state, by the way).
      Waldo - you're rambling.
      Countries per se seldom act outside their own interests.
      Labelling entire groups of countries immoral is bizarre.
      You should focus in on individual issues if you want to bring up a topic, not
      make a grandiose statement about everything and nothing.
      • waldek1610 "Kyoto"doesn't fit US,but democracy must fit Iraq? 13.01.06, 10:59
        varsovian napisał:

        > (The Iranians run a totally loony state, by the way).

        I agree with the statment, but if you ask Arabs, most of them will say it's the
        USA that is loony...And this seems to come with mothers milk, years of
        conditioning, propaganda seems to make great majority a believers, not matter
        if you talking about American or Iranian propaganda...

        > Waldo - you're rambling.
        > Countries per se seldom act outside their own interests.

        Ok, then, if USA, Russia, Israel, Pakistan, China or India claims that it
        maintains nuclear weapons as means of "keeping peace" and diverting war by the
        sole posession of the nuclear weapon, why is Iran not eligable to have a same
        right.

        That reminds me US secretary of energy statement, who said at the "Kyoto"
        summit in Asia last month; She said that there's no such a thing as "remedy
        that fits all countries (speaking about quotas, that US hasn't agreed to limit
        it's emision). OK, why then USA barges into Iraq and for some reasons it
        believes that Western style democracy is going to fit islamic country....Any
        clue?



        > Labelling entire groups of countries immoral is bizarre.
        > You should focus in on individual issues if you want to bring up a topic, not
        > make a grandiose statement about everything and nothing.


        OK, I just did. (Above)
        • russh Re: "Kyoto"doesn't fit US,but democracy must fit 13.01.06, 16:04
          waldek1610 napisał:

          > varsovian napisał:
          >
          > > (The Iranians run a totally loony state, by the way).
          >
          > I agree with the statment, but if you ask Arabs, most of them will say it's the
          >
          > USA that is loony...And this seems to come with mothers milk, years of
          > conditioning, propaganda seems to make great majority a believers, not matter
          > if you talking about American or Iranian propaganda...

          Or Polish! Agreed.


          >
          > > Waldo - you're rambling.
          > > Countries per se seldom act outside their own interests.
          >
          > Ok, then, if USA, Russia, Israel, Pakistan, China or India claims that it
          > maintains nuclear weapons as means of "keeping peace" and diverting war by the
          > sole posession of the nuclear weapon, why is Iran not eligable to have a same
          > right.

          There are already too many! Do you agree with Iran having nuclear weapons?


          >
          > That reminds me US secretary of energy statement, who said at the "Kyoto"
          > summit in Asia last month; She said that there's no such a thing as "remedy
          > that fits all countries (speaking about quotas, that US hasn't agreed to limit
          > it's emision). OK, why then USA barges into Iraq and for some reasons it
          > believes that Western style democracy is going to fit islamic country....Any
          > clue?

          Democracy works, no doubt. It is also right. Having it does not mean that the
          country has to follow western culture.

          Why did the the States & the UK go into Iraq - you probably know as much as me.
          It's all documented in enough places.

          One thing I can't understand though, is why in one post you seem to laud the
          Western culture, and in another you demean it. I'd love to know your true
          beliefs. Did you vote for Bush or Kerry?


          >
          >
          >
          > > Labelling entire groups of countries immoral is bizarre.
          > > You should focus in on individual issues if you want to bring up a topic,
          > not
          > > make a grandiose statement about everything and nothing.
          >
          >
          > OK, I just did. (Above)
          • waldek1610 "Kyoto"doesn't fit US,but democracy must fit Iraq? 14.01.06, 06:50
            russh napisał:

            > waldek1610 napisał:
            >
            > > varsovian napisał:
            > >
            > > > (The Iranians run a totally loony state, by the way).
            > >
            > > I agree with the statment, but if you ask Arabs, most of them will say it
            > 's the
            > >
            > > USA that is loony...And this seems to come with mothers milk, years of
            > > conditioning, propaganda seems to make great majority a believers, not ma
            > tter
            > > if you talking about American or Iranian propaganda...
            >
            > Or Polish! Agreed.


            Or British or European! Agreed.


            > > > Waldo - you're rambling.
            > > > Countries per se seldom act outside their own interests.
            > >
            > > Ok, then, if USA, Russia, Israel, Pakistan, China or India claims that it
            >
            > > maintains nuclear weapons as means of "keeping peace" and diverting war b
            > y the
            > > sole posession of the nuclear weapon, why is Iran not eligable to have a
            > same
            > > right.
            >
            > There are already too many! Do you agree with Iran having nuclear weapons?

            OK, what would you say if somebody shut a door to paradise just in a front of
            your nose. "Sorry we got enough people!" or "You don't need to be happy, we got
            enough happy people already!" ??? And yest nuclear weapon as a means of
            detering invasion is a perfect weapon, I wish Poland had it when it was invaded
            by Soviets or Germans.


            > > That reminds me US secretary of energy statement, who said at the "Kyoto"
            >
            > > summit in Asia last month; She said that there's no such a thing as "reme
            > dy
            > > that fits all countries (speaking about quotas, that US hasn't agreed to
            > limit
            > > it's emision). OK, why then USA barges into Iraq and for some reasons it
            > > believes that Western style democracy is going to fit islamic country....
            > Any
            > > clue?
            >
            > Democracy works, no doubt. It is also right. Having it does not mean that the
            > country has to follow western culture.
            >
            > Why did the the States & the UK go into Iraq - you probably know as much as
            me.
            > It's all documented in enough places.
            >
            > One thing I can't understand though, is why in one post you seem to laud the
            > Western culture, and in another you demean it. I'd love to know your true
            > beliefs. Did you vote for Bush or Kerry?

            I voted for Gore as one of few people in USA military, and then I voted for
            Kerry, but George Bush has its good and bad sides..
            You forgot to answer my question; Why democracy supposed to be good for Iraq,
            but limiting emissions in US (accepting Kyoto treaty) is not good for USA??? I
            want you to focus on USA and its emissions into atmosphere, why does it ignores
            whole world on this subject, while claiming it knows what is better for
            Iraquis???
            • ianek70 Re: "Kyoto"doesn't fit US,but democracy must fit 14.01.06, 15:56
              waldek1610 napisał:

              > I voted for Gore as one of few people

              You're lucky.
              Poles had to choose between Kaczyński and Tusk.
              • missus.c voting 15.01.06, 00:03
                Waldek, did you bother to vote in the Polish elections?
              • waldek1610 Re: "Kyoto"doesn't fit US,but democracy must fit 15.01.06, 07:21
                ianek70 napisał:

                > waldek1610 napisał:
                >
                > > I voted for Gore as one of few people
                >
                > You're lucky.
                > Poles had to choose between Kaczyński and Tusk.

                Sure, I didn't expect you to answer most important question, but rather to try
                to pick holes in my post.
                Anyways, the World would be too perfect if people actually bothered to answer
                important questions.....
                • missus.c Re: "Kyoto"doesn't fit US,but democracy must fit 15.01.06, 12:48
                  You don't answer them when others ask. A taste of your own medicine isn't very
                  nice.
    • usenetposts Re: West has more rights, because it can afford i 13.01.06, 10:34
      waldek1610 napisał:

      > One of our new posters, uses FBI style of questioning to brake Waldek's will,
      > see by yourself:
      >
      > missus.c napisal;
      >
      > > too many questions for him at once, I thinksmile
      > > But I'll add these:
      > > How old are you?
      > > Where exactly do you live?
      > > How long have you lived away from Polska?
      > > Simple enough, I hope.
      >
      > It might have been if she was and FBI agent.....

      How tall are you?
      Are you a virgin?
      What exactly is your BMI?
      Are you goofy and ginger with a speech impediment?

      If your answer to all of these is "yes", I hear platforma obywatelska could do
      with a new leader.
      • waldek1610 Re: West has more rights, because it can afford i 13.01.06, 11:12
        usenetposts napisał:

        > How tall are you?

        6'00 or simply 180 centimeters

        > Are you a virgin?

        No, why would I? Am I not deserving a mate because I'm Pole?


        > What exactly is your BMI?

        British Mental Incompetence....disorder? You got me here. What if ...whatever
        you spelled, is spelled differently in polish, and I don't give a crap what
        English call it?


        > Are you goofy and ginger with a speech impediment?

        Yes, and I'm also poor, and being a Pole I have to pretend my country wasn't an
        European Power for 400 years because that would hurt German and British
        feelings of self importance too much.


        > If your answer to all of these is "yes", I hear platforma obywatelska could
        do
        > with a new leader.

        I think you do better worrying about Mr.Greasy (the Bush's buddle)
        • kylie1 Re: West has more rights, because it can afford i 14.01.06, 07:41
          BMI is body mass index, I think. I had those readings done in the gym a while
          back.
          smile
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