Which country should be next in line for the EU?

17.01.06, 12:51
I started an opinion poll on that topic on another forum:

www.usenetposts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=83
Please have a look in and make your views felt.
    • missus.c Re: Which country should be next in line for the 17.01.06, 13:39
      I always imagined it would be the Balkans. But then they went to war.
      • usenetposts Re: Which country should be next in line for the 17.01.06, 13:59
        I think a very good case could be made for Croatia, but then again they were
        not without their share of misdealing in the period of conflict. The benchmark
        seems to be how good these countries are at giving up their malefactors and
        femalefactors for that matter to the Vague Court of Vuman Vights for "doo
        process", as the Americans cal it, to take place.

        This is logical. If the countries won't listen and comply with that, then the
        chances are they won't listen and comply with other EU decisions and directives.

        And non-complying member states are not very useful member states.

        A country not too far from where I'm sitting might wanna take that compliance
        point to heart as well.
        • marimax Re: Which country should be next in line for the 18.01.06, 01:44
          EU will not survive next 10-15 years.
          Addmitting Poland was the begging of the end for this
          Polish people are stubborn and independent and will never accept dictate from a
          foreign rulers.
          Hitler could not do it, Stalin could not do it and a beaurocrats from Brussel
          won't be able to do it
          • russh Re: Which country should be next in line for the 18.01.06, 07:25
            I believe that it will survive, but that its form will be changed, to being
            either more unified (federal states, with unified taxation etc, which is what
            they have been working towards, and the only logical long-term format if the
            euro is to continue), or to being an open trade organisation.

            The first is more likely, as it's the Political agenda.

            Admitting Poland has not changed many things for the (old) EU in substance, but
            will make the political agenda more complete, and the region still more stable.
            It will change many things for Poland, mostly for the better, and from what I've
            seem of politics here in Poland so far, the EU bureaucracy, which I abhor, will
            do no worse.

            Hopefully, whichever way it goes will lead to continuing freedom, a more
            efficient and less bureaucratic government, greater wealth for its states /
            nations and a more satisfying & prosperous life for its people.
            • chris-joe Re: Which country should be next in line for the 25.01.06, 04:18
              "EU bureaucracy, which I abhor, will do no worse.

              Hopefully, whichever way it goes will lead to continuing freedom, a more
              efficient and less bureaucratic government, greater wealth for its states /
              nations and a more satisfying & prosperous life for its people."

              Bad, bad bureaucracy! Still, could I have some? smile)))))))))))))))
          • ianek70 Re: Which country should be next in line for the 18.01.06, 11:59
            marimax napisał:

            > Polish people are stubborn and independent and will never accept dictate from
            a
            >
            > foreign rulers.
            Since when?

            > Hitler could not do it,
            You mean Adolf failed to occupy Poland?

            > Stalin could not do it
            So communism never happened in Poland?
            Poland has never been ruled by Prussians, Russians and Austrians?
            Warsaw ignores orders from the Pentagon and the Vatican?

            > and a beaurocrats from Brussel
            > won't be able to do it
            If Poles are so proud why don't they give the EU its money back and stop
            emigrating to Western Europe?
            • marimax Re: Which country should be next in line for the 18.01.06, 15:22
              Yes, all of them tried but for how long ???
              All of them lost sooner or later.
              Poles emigrate now because it is difficult to find a job in Poland and this is
              the only reason.
              • ianek70 Re: Which country should be next in line for the 18.01.06, 15:49
                marimax napisał:

                > Yes, all of them tried but for how long ???
                Sometimes 40 years, sometimes a few hundred.

                > All of them lost sooner or later.
                But not because of Poles.

                > Poles emigrate now because it is difficult to find a job in Poland and this is
                > the only reason.
                Yes, these proud patriotic Poles get more money abroad (in countries ruled by
                foreigners) than in their own country (ruled by Poles).
                It's normal to emigrate in these circumstances, a lot of my Polish friends have
                left and I don't blame them. Poles are as practical and pragmatic as anybody
                else, so your stereotype about Poles is meaningless in a debate about the
                future of the EU.
          • usenetposts Re: Which country should be next in line for the 19.01.06, 01:53
            marimax napisał:

            > EU will not survive next 10-15 years.
            > Addmitting Poland was the begging of the end for this
            > Polish people are stubborn and independent and will never accept dictate from
            a
            >
            > foreign rulers.
            > Hitler could not do it, Stalin could not do it and a beaurocrats from Brussel
            > won't be able to do it

            The difference is nobody applied to those others to come and lay down the law
            here. Poland asked for this. If the people didn't go in with their eyes wide
            open they can blame their media for sidelining the other view and making it
            look like the view of extremists and weirdos to stay out of the EU.

            If Poland removes itself from the EU or is removed for non-compliance, then the
            repayable debt will be so large it will make the sacrifices that this country
            made to sort out the London Club look like a teddy bears' picnic.
    • ianek70 Re: Which country should be next in line for the 24.01.06, 16:16
      Will Catalonia be independent before Scotland?
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