Missus, tell us something about yourself!

29.01.06, 11:12
I would love to have a peek into your background, in which your self
confidence and arrogance must be rooted, the one which you're so scrupulously
hiding. Considering you have mastered english to quite high degree, something
that is not common even withing new generation of educated-bussines and
administration elite in Poland... I doubt you're a son of hard working bus
driver and a supermarket cashier.

Those neu-richies circles in Poland are maid mainly of the former communist
and left party bosses, their relatives and croonies, who turned themselves
into bussinessman or clinged passionatelly to politics after repainting
themselves from comunists into the so called european socialists...

Moreover your english clearly shows British accent. So please don't make us
guess and tell us, if your father send you to Britain to study study english
and bussiness/administration, so you could take over his bussines or
political mandate of the leftist party?

As for me your replies to my posts sound very aggresive, which seems to be
the halmark of the new novo-richie class in Poland. They guard their newly
won wealth and political power feverishly, and would resort to brutal tactics
if anybody tried to challange their comfortable cusshy status. Therefore you
too Missus believe that this makes you invincible and you don't even bother
to reply critique aimed at you.

Which explains why you go out of your way to discredit Waldek, who in your
opinion is the poster boy of Polish imigrant; "Uneducated, illegal and
unaware of reality; etiher Polish nor American"... at least the way rich and
powerfull Poles back in Poland want to perceive immigrant Poles who became
the US citizens.

Clearly there's nothing worse for you to have Poles living abroads who are
prosperous, educated and opiniondated...like Waldek who refuses to fall for
Missus's self congratulating arrogance based on false superiority complex and
arrogance of the new business and political elite in Poland who's motto
is; "Ja mam wladze i pieniadze! Wara od koryta biedacy i morda w kubel, tylko
my jestesmy madrzy!"

Worst yet Waldek dares to challange new Polish nomenclature...and therefore
deserves to be ridiculed. Missus realised that he found a Pole who's openly
critisising corruption and stupidity or newly established bussiness and
political classes that's why he's attacing the inconvenient wistle blower.

PS. (I can't wait to find out in what way Missus or Ianek going to use my
last sentence; perheaps they are going to make jokes about Waldek's sexual
orientation)

--
Polska jest w moim sercu!
    • nasza_maggie Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 29.01.06, 11:44
      Ha! You wish!
      • waldek1610 Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 29.01.06, 12:01
        Maggie, I'm glad you showed up, because this text applies to as well, so you
        could say I killed two pidgins with one stroke smile

        It is amaising how novo-richies in Poland are almost all identical.
        • nasza_maggie Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 29.01.06, 12:10
          Waldek,

          Nic się widać nie zmieniłeś i nie nauczyłeś. No ale trudno, wszystko jeszcze
          kochany Waldku przed tobą smile
          Na tym polega demokracja że każdy ma wolność słowa. Szkoda że nie potrafisz
          tego wykorzystać dla swojego dobra.
          No i dziwi mnie, że jeszcze tutaj ktoś z Tobą wytrzymuje smile))) Ale na szczęście
          widać że nie byłam jedyną osobą która zauważyła że masz kłopotysmile


          Mimo wszyskitego życze Ci miłego dnia i mam nadzieje ze w Twojej części świata
          wszystko ma się dobrze.

          Mam jedynie prośbę - nie kategoryzuj mnie, ok? smile Uwież że bogata nie jestem co
          nie oznacza że nigdy nie będę. Ale ty, jak wkońcuż zrobisz karierę jako malarz
          (?) to może i tobie się powiedzie. Czego ci życzę że swojego słabego serducha.


          serdecznie Cię pozdrawiam

          Magsmile
          • waldek1610 Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 29.01.06, 12:21
            Jesli nie jestes bogata to skad u Ciebie bierze sie ta arogancja i pewnosc
            siebie? Wiesz co, nie moge uwierzyc ze ktos poslugujacy sie angielskim lepiej
            niz wszyscy polscy dyplomaci w Brukseli i rzadzie RP (no moze za wyjatkiem
            Radka Sikorskiego) nie posiada przytulnej posady w biznesie lub administracji w
            Polsce.....

            Moje "klopoty" polegaja na tym ze bez wiekszego skutku walcze z prywata i
            arogancja ktora zamieszkuje mozgi niektorych rodakow.

            Tak wogole to dziekuje za Pozdrowienia!
            • nasza_maggie Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 29.01.06, 12:29
              Wiesz co, nie przyszlam sie z Toba kłócić.

              Powiem Ci tylko, że uważasz że ktoś kto sie z Tobą nie zgadza i zna dobrze inne
              języki, to jest bogaty, nowo bogaty, skorumpowany i te inne insynuacje, to sam
              sobie zaprzeczasz. A co do mnie to ta teoria jest BAAAARDZO nie trafionasmile

              A wogóle, to by znaczyło więc, że te wszystkie osoby które się z Tobą nie
              zgadzają na łamach forum GW (a jest ich wiele) podlegają pod twoją wymyśloną
              kategorię. Co raczej jest nie możliwe wink



              Jeżeli ta walka nie ma większego skutku to proszę zmień strategięsmile Wtedy może
              nawet skusze się by Cię gdzieniegdzie wesprzeć.

              I zamiast usiłować zmieniać ludzi (bo to nie tylko Rodakom chcesz zmusić do
              twojego punktu widzenia) to może najpierw zacznij od siebie i zastosuj więcej
              samokrytyki i skromności, to zawsze działasmile
              • waldek1610 Maggie,I still wait for self-critisizing westerner 29.01.06, 12:50
                Maggie,
                Do tej skromonosci to Polacy byli zmuszani az za nadto przez ponad 200 lat.
                Jesli tkos ma byc samokrytyczny wzgledem siebie samego, to wlasnie nie Polska
                biedota, ale zepsuty i zapatrzony w siebie zachod..i paru jego przedstawicieli
                na tym forum.

                Dlaczego to najbiedniejsi i Ci zawsze oblegani jak Polacy i katolicy maja tylko
                byc krytyczni wzgledem siebie?

                Prosze powiedz mi ale tak szczerze, dlaczego Twoim zdaniem na watek "Most
                Annoying Pole" odpowiedzialo wielu sypiac Polskie nazwiska jak z worka,
                natomiast na moj post "Most annoying "Old EU"ropean" wprost nie odpowiedzial
                nikt, tak jakby Slowianin nie mial prawa krytykowac zachodu?

                Co przeciez nie znaczy ze zachod Europy zlozony jest tylko z bardzo milych
                ludzi. Denerwujacy ludzie sa wszedzie, wiec dlaczego zachod nie jest krytyczny
                w samoocenie, i do tego Missus i Ianek, czyli ich polskie marionetki przytakuja?
                • nasza_maggie Re: Maggie,I still wait for self-critisizing west 29.01.06, 12:58
                  Waldek,

                  Tak jak pisałam, ja nie przyszłam tu żeby się z tobą kłócić. Znasz moje zdanie
                  na twój temat.

                  Jako Polka, mieszkająca w Polsce, z dużym bagażem doświadczeń, nie zgadzam się
                  z Twoimi poglądami i Twoim sposobem argumentowania i traktowania innych
                  użytkowników tego forum. Dlatego nie będę się wypowiadać na temat twoich
                  teorii, bo to błędne koło i najczęściej prowokacja. Uszanuj to że nie chcę.
                  • waldek1610 Re: Maggie,I still wait for self-critisizing west 29.01.06, 13:09
                    No dobrze Maggie, ale bedac Polka na pewno masz gleboko zakorzenione staro-
                    polskie rycerskie poczucie honoru i prawosci...mam nadzieje przynajmniej.

                    Nie znosze niesprawiedliwosci, wiec jesli ktytykujemy Polakow w watku; "Most
                    Annoying Pole", to dlaczego nie mozemy ktytykowac Niemcow, Angilikow czy
                    Holendrow w watku; "Most Annoying "Old EU"ropean"?

                    To tak jakby nie bylismy na rownych prawach, i wy wlasnie odmawiajac dyskusji
                    nad denerwujacymi ludzmi z zachodu...wlasnie rzucacie cien watpliwosci....A
                    jesli rzucilo sie nazwiskiem Korwina- Mikke to mozna by rzucic nazwisko
                    Chiraca na przyklad i po sprawie...
                    • ianek70 Waldo, I still wait for self-critisizing westerner 30.01.06, 21:43
                      waldek1610 napisał:

                      > No dobrze Maggie, ale bedac Polka na pewno masz gleboko zakorzenione staro-
                      > polskie rycerskie poczucie honoru i prawosci...

                      Nauczyłeś się tych wszystkich stereotypów o Europejczykach jeszcze w Polsce,
                      czy tam u was?

                      > Nie znosze niesprawiedliwosci, wiec jesli ktytykujemy Polakow w watku; "Most
                      > Annoying Pole",

                      A kogo mamy krytykować w wątku "Most Annoying Pole"?
                      Jak się okazało, większość tych, co tam napisali, to Polacy, ale mi i tak się
                      wydaje, że prawie wszyscy czytający i piszący na tym forum (bez względu na
                      narodowość) są bardziej kumaci i na bieżąco, jeśli chodzi o polskie realia, niż
                      Ty. Po prostu nie wiesz, kto najbardziej wkurwia w IIIRP i z tego powodu
                      zacząłeś pisać o swoich najbardziej znienawidzonych anglosasach - wśród których
                      nie było, jak zwykle, ani jednego Anglo-Saxona.

                      > to dlaczego nie mozemy ktytykowac Niemcow, Angilikow czy
                      > Holendrow w watku;

                      Mógłbyś pisać do woli o Niemcach, Anglikach czy Holendrach, gdybyś wiedział
                      cokolwiek o nich. Ale nic nie wiesz.
                      • waldek1610 typowa polska zawisc Ianek 31.01.06, 23:28
                        ianek70 napisał:

                        > Mógłbyś pisać do woli o Niemcach, Anglikach czy Holendrach, gdybyś wiedział
                        > cokolwiek o nich. Ale nic nie wiesz.

                        Z twojej wypowiedzi az wieje typowa polska zawiscia i krnabrnosc. Moglbym byc
                        dobrze usytuowana osoba, jezdzaca Chryslerem 300 ale dla Ciebie i tak jestem
                        biedakiem, bo oczywiscie Tobie nie wypada przyznac tego ze Polak za granica
                        moze zyc zupelnie na wysokim poziomie....bo w Polsce sam tego nie masz, nie
                        wspomne o tych ktorzy zyl na nizszym poziomie niz ty.

                        To samo z wiedza ogolna, moge pokazac zupelnie dobra wiedze na dany temat ale
                        Ty i tak powiesz ze nic nie wiem, no bo jak inaczej ....Polonus w USA powinien
                        wedlug Ciebie byc "Glupi, biedny i do tego ofiara losu"...a ze jest inaczej to
                        takich cwaniaczkow jak ty w Polsce denerwuje.
                        • ianek70 Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 01.02.06, 10:33
                          waldek1610 napisał:

                          > ianek70 napisał:
                          >
                          > > Mógłbyś pisać do woli o Niemcach, Anglikach czy Holendrach, gdybyś wiedzi
                          > ał
                          > > cokolwiek o nich. Ale nic nie wiesz.
                          >
                          > Z twojej wypowiedzi az wieje typowa polska zawiscia i krnabrnosc. Moglbym byc
                          > dobrze usytuowana osoba, jezdzaca Chryslerem 300 ale dla Ciebie i tak jestem
                          > biedakiem, bo oczywiscie Tobie nie wypada przyznac tego ze Polak za granica
                          > moze zyc zupelnie na wysokim poziomie....bo w Polsce sam tego nie masz, nie
                          > wspomne o tych ktorzy zyl na nizszym poziomie niz ty.
                          >
                          > To samo z wiedza ogolna, moge pokazac zupelnie dobra wiedze na dany temat ale
                          > Ty i tak powiesz ze nic nie wiem, no bo jak inaczej ....Polonus w USA
                          powinien
                          > wedlug Ciebie byc "Glupi, biedny i do tego ofiara losu"...a ze jest inaczej
                          to
                          > takich cwaniaczkow jak ty w Polsce denerwuje.
                          >

                          Nie chodzi o rzekomą głupotę czy kompleksy Polonusów, tylko o prawdziwą
                          niewiedzę jednego z nich, który kryje się za głupotą typu "Według was jestem
                          głupi bo Polak?"
                          Nie wiesz na jakim poziomie ja żyję, a Twój poziom i tryb życia mnie w ogóle
                          nie obchodzą, więc nie mów mi o zawiści czy cwaniactwie, frustracie mały.
                        • chris-joe Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 01.02.06, 11:16
                          So, waldek, is it "typowa polska zawisc i krnabrnosc" or "gleboko zakorzenione
                          staropolskie rycerskie poczucie honoru i prawosci"? smile))
                          • waldek1610 Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 02.02.06, 07:22
                            I guess Poles are not much different from Americans....You smile to every
                            stranger you make a eye contact with, but you're predominantly are the nation
                            of assholes.... So which one is it Chris?
                            • chris-joe Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 02.02.06, 11:11
                              actually, I'm the third option: Canadian smile
                              • waldek1610 Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 02.02.06, 11:35
                                chris-joe napisał:

                                > actually, I'm the third option: Canadian smile


                                How's the weather up north, eh?
                                • chris-joe Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 02.02.06, 23:14
                                  What can I say... But the groundhogs gave us a (thin) ray of hope today.
                                • usenetposts Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 14.02.06, 00:39
                                  waldek1610 napisał:

                                  > chris-joe napisał:
                                  >
                                  > > actually, I'm the third option: Canadian smile
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > How's the weather up north, eh?

                                  Heh. Couldn't resist that, eh?
                                  • ms.jones Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 14.02.06, 00:42
                                    nie wywoluj wilka z lasu, Dave!
                                  • waldek1610 Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 14.02.06, 23:43
                                    usenetposts napisał:

                                    > waldek1610 napisał:
                                    >
                                    > > chris-joe napisał:
                                    > >
                                    > > > actually, I'm the third option: Canadian smile
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > How's the weather up north, eh?
                                    >
                                    > Heh. Couldn't resist that, eh?


                                    Why, did you think that jokes are good only if they are aimed at others? Dave I
                                    don't care that he is Angl-Saxon or Westerner...for me he's not the "sacred
                                    cow" who you should not make fun of....

                                    Did you seriously thought that Westerners are perfect and can't be ridiculed?
                                    • kylie1 Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 14.02.06, 23:54
                                      Dave, how much longer are you gonna keep this clown here?

                                      z z z z z z z .....
                                      • usenetposts Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 18.02.06, 12:33
                                        kylie1 napisała:

                                        > Dave, how much longer are you gonna keep this clown here?
                                        >
                                        > z z z z z z z .....

                                        Well, Kylie, the matter was voted on. That's the downside of democracy, you
                                        have to live with what the majority vote for.
                                        • russh Re: typowa polska zawisc Ianek 18.02.06, 13:56
                                          There was a months trial I thought.

                                          Even if he is not to be banned, there should be a standard of netiquette drawn up.
          • hardenfelt Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 29.01.06, 13:10
            Nasza Maggie wrote:
            „No i dziwi mnie, że jeszcze tutaj ktoś z Tobą wytrzymuje smile)))”

            ?????
            I love Waldo! I read this forum several times a day to have a good laugh. I
            would never approach this forum just to read about David’s prayers and
            homophobias – I got enough of that every day in Poland.

            Waldo is a typical emigrant feeling lost in his new country and dreaming about
            his home country. Having made it all the way to become a cop in Bush-country he
            off course feels better and wiser than his old countrymen. You find this kind
            of people in all emigrant communities, but Waldo is the greatest – he is a
            caricature. Sometimes I consider if David didn’t make him up to increase the
            rating and readability of this forum. But if You did – don’t tell us. I want to
            believe that Waldo really exists.
            • waldek1610 Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 29.01.06, 13:23
              Hi,
              Isn't amaising how westerners love to critisize Poles, but avoid secondguessing
              their own anglo-saxon culture like a fire?

              They even have a name for it my friend, its called "ethno-centrism"..which
              makes you believe only your anglo-saxon ways are "normal" and "right" and
              everything else is crap.. Which is true, as long as you are in your own
              background...

              You have to understand one thing, that Americans nor British don't have a
              monopole for being "right", even Albanians or Poles have their own ways, so I
              don't really care how is is done in your anglo-saxon counry. Where are you from
              buddy?
              • hardenfelt Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 29.01.06, 13:34
                As I wrote – people like You can be found in any emigrant community. When I was
                young I lived in Torremolinos for a number of years. This was where I first met
                these communities – my own consisting of early retired Danes and of course the
                early retired Brits. They were all detestable in there arrogance and
                superiority. They all knew how Spain should be ruled, and they all knew how
                there home country should be ruled.

                But Waldo – You are the master. And You remind me of these people from my
                youth, and this is why I love You!
            • usenetposts Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 29.01.06, 14:40
              hardenfelt napisał:

              > Nasza Maggie wrote:
              > „No i dziwi mnie, że jeszcze tutaj ktoś z Tobą wytrzymuje smile)))”
              >
              > ?????
              > I love Waldo! I read this forum several times a day to have a good laugh. I
              > would never approach this forum just to read about David’s prayers and
              > homophobias – I got enough of that every day in Poland.

              But Michael, we only met once a week, and I never asked you to pray with me,
              nor did I say anything homophobic. I rarely broach the subject that I don't
              think that homosexual acts are sinful, as I am more concerned about
              heterosexual sinful acts, since I might be rather more tempted to commit them.

              For the record, although I refuse to accept that homosexual practices are not
              sinful, I don't think that homosexual people are any worse than I am, neither
              do I find those of them I have ever met who have identified themselves as such -
              I have no idea whether you are or not, neither does the answer concern me, or
              need to be any of my business - anything other than perfectly likeable
              individuals.

              I still think you are a very talented teacher, and at some point, when I have a
              bit more time, I still would like to resume our lessons.

              What is on this forum is not about me, it is about the Foreigners living in
              Poland who chose to come on here and write what they like. If you don't like
              what I write, then that shouldn't be a barrier to being on this forum. This is
              a Foreigners' forum, not a "people who like this particular moderator" forum.
              My posts are probably less than 20% of what goes on here, and I would like to
              reach a stage where they were less than 5% of what goes on here.

              Waldo appears to dislike me quite a bit, but he is welcome to post here.

              > Waldo is a typical emigrant feeling lost in his new country and dreaming
              about
              > his home country. Having made it all the way to become a cop in Bush-country
              he
              >
              > off course feels better and wiser than his old countrymen. You find this kind
              > of people in all emigrant communities, but Waldo is the greatest – he is
              > a
              > caricature. Sometimes I consider if David didn’t make him up to increase
              > the
              > rating and readability of this forum. But if You did – don’t tell u
              > s. I want to
              > believe that Waldo really exists.

              Hmmn. You seem to have quite a detailed insight unto Uncle's online antics in
              the past, to go making such not entirely groundless accusations.

              Nevertheless, the last character I made up to increase traffic was Constance
              Vigilant on Usenet in 2003. Since being convinced by my Usenet readership that
              I went overboard that time, I decided not to run any more socks, and I have
              been faithful to that decision online ever since.

              Waldo may be someone else Strumpfpuppe, but he's certainly not mine. Moreover,
              the evidence suggests that he is in fact a Strumpfpuppenfuehrer in his own
              right.

              Med venlig hilsen
              • hardenfelt Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 29.01.06, 18:39
                Usernetposts wrote:

                “But Michael, we only met once a week, and I never asked you to pray with me,
                nor did I say anything homophobic. I rarely broach the subject that I don't
                think that homosexual acts are sinful.:

                This is very true, and I did consider our meetings to be extremely pleasant –
                from a social point of view and specially from a professional point of view. I
                have only a few times in life come across people that match Your linguistic
                talents. Feel free to call me anytime if You want to continue Your Danish-
                studies.

                When I wrote that I wouldn’t approach this forum only to read your prayers and
                homophobias, then the point is that I simply find it boring. I would expect to
                find a bit of avant-gardism on a “foreigners living in Poland”-forum but You
                tend to represent traditional polish values on things like women’s position in
                society, homosexuals, religion. It doesn’t make a difference to me that You are
                a Protestant and not a Catholic (I don’t know the difference anyway). The point
                is that I can read these viewpoints on any Polish forum. They are boring for
                someone who doesn’t accept or understand the concept of sin.

                Usernetposts wrote:
                “Waldo appears to dislike me quite a bit, but he is welcome to post here.”

                I don’t understand why Waldo doesn’t like You, as I think Your basic values are
                the same.

                Usernetposts wrote:

                “What is on this forum is not about me, it is about the Foreigners living in
                Poland who chose to come on here and write what they like. If you don't like
                what I write, then that shouldn't be a barrier to being on this forum. This is
                a Foreigners' forum, not a "people who like this particular moderator" forum. “

                It’s not a barrier. But without Waldo this would just be another petit
                bourgeois forum not really worth the effort.


                • russh Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 29.01.06, 19:23
                  Then join in and make it better! A forum is only as interesting as its people.
                  Maybe you could add significantly to it - but only if you contribute.

                  As for implying that this is a religious forum, then you should look a little
                  closer. I, for one, am an agnostic. I also accept the concept of sin; not
                  against the 'Divine Law', but against others beings. Religion does not enter the
                  equation.

                  There are very few references to religion on the forum, thank God (figuratively
                  speaking).

                  Here's hoping you will be a valued member of the forum.
                  • usenetposts Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 30.01.06, 13:25
                    russh napisał:

                    > Then join in and make it better! A forum is only as interesting as its people.
                    > Maybe you could add significantly to it - but only if you contribute.
                    >
                    > As for implying that this is a religious forum, then you should look a little
                    > closer. I, for one, am an agnostic. I also accept the concept of sin; not
                    > against the 'Divine Law', but against others beings. Religion does not enter
                    th
                    > e
                    > equation.
                    >
                    > There are very few references to religion on the forum, thank God
                    (figuratively
                    > speaking).
                    >
                    > Here's hoping you will be a valued member of the forum.

                    Michael would be a very valuable member if he only decides to hang around and
                    contribute, as he is an interesting chap with plenty of varied experience and a
                    good brain. The fact that he has ideas about what the forum should be like that
                    are different to mine is cool, and should only make for improvements around
                    here.
                • usenetposts Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 30.01.06, 12:11
                  Michael Hardenfelt wrote:

                  > Usenetposts wrote:
                  >
                  > “But Michael, we only met once a week, and I never asked you to pray with
                  > me,
                  > nor did I say anything homophobic. I rarely broach the subject that I don't
                  > think that homosexual acts are sinful.:
                  >
                  > This is very true, and I did consider our meetings to be extremely pleasant 
                  > 211;
                  > from a social point of view and specially from a professional point of view.
                  I
                  > have only a few times in life come across people that match Your linguistic
                  > talents. Feel free to call me anytime if You want to continue Your Danish-
                  > studies.
                  >

                  Thank you for the kind words. In due course we can resume the studies, when it
                  gets a bit warmer and we can use the balcony. I mustn't let my Danish get too
                  rusty.

                  > When I wrote that I wouldn’t approach this forum only to read your prayer
                  > s and
                  > homophobias, then the point is that I simply find it boring. I would expect
                  to
                  > find a bit of avant-gardism on a “foreigners living in Poland”-for
                  > um but You
                  > tend to represent traditional polish values on things like women’s positi
                  > on in
                  > society, homosexuals, religion. It doesn’t make a difference to me that Y
                  > ou are
                  > a Protestant and not a Catholic (I don’t know the difference anyway). The
                  > point
                  > is that I can read these viewpoints on any Polish forum. They are boring for
                  > someone who doesn’t accept or understand the concept of sin.
                  >

                  Being avant-garde these days doesn't mean parroting politically correct ideas,
                  though. That was like avant garde 10 or 20 years ago. These are the days of the
                  conservative "shock jock" and the more right wing you can get, the better.

                  There is an idea implicit in what you just said that foreigners are supposed to
                  change Poland's mind about being so conservative and make them more liberal and
                  like the rest of Europe. Never the less, it is completely true that the
                  majority of Foreigners I personally meet here either appreciate the fact that
                  Poland is conservative and would really like Poland to stay that way, or they
                  are not being sincere in their views when they talk to me. I cannot blame
                  myself if they are not. The key to a forum being what people want is for them
                  to post what tghey like, as Russ said to you also. I don't stop them doing
                  that, and I don't impose my views on this forum.


                  > Usernetposts wrote:
                  > “Waldo appears to dislike me quite a bit, but he is welcome to post here.
                  > ”
                  >
                  > I don’t understand why Waldo doesn’t like You, as I think Your basi
                  > c values are
                  > the same.

                  There are of course a lot of common points between the conseravtive catholic
                  and the conservative protestant view when you set them against the liberal
                  view, see American politics. But trying telling him that.

                  >
                  > Usernetposts wrote:
                  >
                  > “What is on this forum is not about me, it is about the Foreigners living
                  > in
                  > Poland who chose to come on here and write what they like. If you don't like
                  > what I write, then that shouldn't be a barrier to being on this forum. This
                  is
                  > a Foreigners' forum, not a "people who like this particular moderator" forum.
                  &
                  > #8220;
                  >
                  > It’s not a barrier. But without Waldo this would just be another petit
                  > bourgeois forum not really worth the effort.
                  >

                  The term "petit bourgeois" is passe, though, and I thought you wanted to be
                  avant garde?
          • mwanginjagi Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 13.02.06, 22:03
            nasza_maggie napisała:

            > Waldek,
            >
            > Nic się widać nie zmieniłeś i nie nauczyłeś. No ale trudno, wszystko jeszcze
            > kochany Waldku przed tobą smile
            > Na tym polega demokracja że każdy ma wolność słowa. Szkoda że nie potrafisz
            > tego wykorzystać dla swojego dobra.
            > No i dziwi mnie, że jeszcze tutaj ktoś z Tobą wytrzymuje smile))) Ale na
            szczęście
            >
            > widać że nie byłam jedyną osobą która zauważyła że masz kłopotysmile
            >
            >
            > Mimo wszyskitego życze Ci miłego dnia i mam nadzieje ze w Twojej części
            świata
            > wszystko ma się dobrze.
            >
            > Mam jedynie prośbę - nie kategoryzuj mnie, ok? smile Uwież że bogata nie jestem
            co
            >
            > nie oznacza że nigdy nie będę. Ale ty, jak wkońcuż zrobisz karierę jako
            malarz
            > (?) to może i tobie się powiedzie. Czego ci życzę że swojego słabego serducha.
            >
            >
            > serdecznie Cię pozdrawiam
            >
            > Magsmile

            Maggie,

            I love your polish.. sounds poetic !! I love it

            Wladek,

            Man you have issues!! Politics will always remain... and instead of
            complaining, join the bandwagon...esp in the new poland where opportunities for
            a quick buck is everywhere... and almost always legal... there is some wisdom
            in the saying "If you can't beat them, Join them"

            Pozdrawiam Wszystim
            /Mwangi
          • normabaker Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 18.02.06, 08:10
            Tatus zaplacil za lekcje angielskiego Maggie? Dobra z ciebie corka, ze tak
            namietnie cwiczysz jezyk i produkujesz sie na forum, gdzie byc nie powinnas, bo
            cie nie dotyczy. A moze uwazasz, ze jestes cudzoziemka w Polsce? Rozne rzeczy
            przychodza do glowy wspolczesnym polskim bananom. Z twoich postow wynika, ze
            nie masz absolutnie nic do powiedzenia na zaden temat i co jest typowe dla
            Polakow zamieszkalych w Polsce zajmujesz glos na kazdy mozliwy temat.
            Twoje opinie sa jesli nie glupie to swiadczace o absolutnej nieznajomosci
            rzeczy. Tyle twojego, co sobie uzyjesz na tym forum. Niestety nigdy nie
            bedziesz (polska)cudzoziemka mieszkajaca w US or UK na wlasny koszt i
            samodzielnie sie utrzymujaca. A wiesz dlaczego? Bo jestes zupelnie do niczego. D
            Do niczego sie nie nadajesz(pomijajac darcie japy na tym forum) a jedyne co
            soba reprezentujesz to poparcie tatusia, ktory zdobyl troche forsy w szemrany
            sposob (patrz wytlumaczenie Waldka jak powstaly nowe polskie elity). Nie jestes
            wyjatkiem, nie martw sie. Podobna do ciebie osobowosc ma 100% polskich innych
            bananow. Na przyklad corka Daniela Passenta i Agnieszki Osieckiej ksztalcila
            sie nawet na Harvardzie, po czym....wrocila do Polski, bo nie mogla sobie
            samodzielnie dac rady w USA. Tam byla jedynie szara gaska ze wschodniej Europy
            wiec wolala polski siermiezny splednor od normalnego ale pracowitego zycia w
            USA. dlatego ty Maggi i twoi koeldzy z tego forum, bojac sie o swoje
            nadobne doopy, do konca zycia bedziecie siedziali w Polsce produkujac sie na
            tym forum podobnie jak cala reszta tobie podobnych bananow z intelektualnym
            wodoglowiem i niedowladem samodzielnosci. Na tym forum stworzonym przez polskie
            banany, ktore cwicza angielski udajac obcokrajowcow jest moze 2-3 prawdziwych
            cudzoziemcow, ktorzych los przez wiellllki przypadek rzucil do Polski. I nie
            sadze aby ten fakt sprawial im wielka przyjemnosc. Moglabym napisac to wszystko
            po angielsku.... ale po co?
    • missus.c Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 30.01.06, 17:22
      And I would love not to answer you, so I won't. I'm so selfish!!!
      But seriously, the only reason I won't answer is beacuse you bore me Waldek
      and no matter what I answer, your imagination about me has run wild already, I
      see.
      So, no 'mięso armatnie' for you thenwink
      • usenetposts Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 30.01.06, 20:36
        missus.c napisała:

        > And I would love not to answer you, so I won't. I'm so selfish!!!
        > But seriously, the only reason I won't answer is beacuse you bore me Waldek
        > and no matter what I answer, your imagination about me has run wild already,
        I
        > see.
        > So, no 'mięso armatnie' for you thenwink

        Wot? Not even a Dot Cotton photograph?
      • waldek1610 Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 31.01.06, 23:40
        Sure, its much easier to critize others, why you are anonimous...I'm sure you
        have a lot of things to be ashamed of, otherwise you would at least say your
        first name and state your background.

        All you do is to critique everybody personally...while yourself you are hiding
        behind one way mirror....I'm not going to answer your posts anymore, since I
        don't see any point in being interogated by you....it would be nicer to speak
        to someone who's not afraid to show their true face.
        • mwanginjagi Re: Missus, tell us something about yourself! 18.02.06, 13:59
          waldek1610 napisał:

          > Sure, its much easier to critize others, why you are anonimous...I'm sure you
          > have a lot of things to be ashamed of, otherwise you would at least say your
          > first name and state your background.
          >
          > All you do is to critique everybody personally...while yourself you are
          hiding
          > behind one way mirror....I'm not going to answer your posts anymore, since I
          > don't see any point in being interogated by you....it would be nicer to speak
          > to someone who's not afraid to show their true face.
          >

          Wow... some serious stuff right there... stalemate!!!!
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