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OK, which cities are your favour and why?

04.02.06, 23:37
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    • usenetposts Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 05.02.06, 02:18
      Good question.

      I like Warsaw, Poznan, Koszalin, the Katowice area despite the pollution, the
      Trojmiasto, Legnica, Bydgoszcz. Bielsko Biała is a great place too. Gorzow is
      good.

      The ones I like a bit less are Kielce, Radom, and maybe Lodz. Torun doesn't do
      much for me either, although there are nice things around and about it. I can't
      say I dislike any of these places though.

      I think Krakow is OK but overrated, Wroclaw I always get lost in, but it does
      have some terrific features.

      I don't have an opinion on Bialystok or Szczecin, but I'd like to get to know
      them more.
      • skattski Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 08.02.06, 02:16
        My favorite place in Poland is......Zyrardow!!! It takes only 30min by train
        going west from Dworzec Centralny. It`s small but really pretty i`d say. 1 Maja
        street goes across the heart of the town, there`s a beautiful park with a
        museum of the county and filthy river Pisia. Sure after 9pm you gonna get
        mugged cause it`s like Peckham or closer where i live..Camden Town. Very rough.
        Tough, there is no knives or gun culture at all...i think. i was born there and
        lived there for many years before end up in UK, but still feel thrilled when
        paying a visit. My kiwi mate once sad, i`ve been all over the world and have
        seen almost everything, i told him,- you must find yourself in Zyrardow to
        claim your mission is accomplished . Talk to your polish friends guys, half of
        the city either work or study in Warsaw.
        Check out the website to find out more. Good luck and take great care :o)

        www.zyrardow.pl/
        /jk
    • hardenfelt Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 05.02.06, 10:58
      They all have their attractive sides. It really depends on what You are looking
      for.

      Warszawa – a mixture of slum and luxury, poverty and wealth. The people
      generally have a European mindset. Very little religious nonsense unless You
      come across British o American missionaries. The only true international city
      in Poland. It has it’s posh places and a student’s atmosphere. A very good city
      if You want to do business. Not enough underground culture. Something should be
      done about the river bank and some of the houses in the reconstructed Old Town
      (which does not look very old) should be transformed into student hostels. A
      mayor with visions could get this city into the European first league.

      Krakow is a great city – but only for so and so long. Great bars, good and
      cheap food, student’s atmosphere. The mindset is to conservative for my taste –
      too much history and nationalism. Waldo would feel good here. Besides from
      Rynek I like Kazimierz and Nowa Huta – a great example of communist city
      planning. The whole town is a bit like a museum but the train journey to Warsaw
      takes less than 3 hours – and that’s a big plus.

      Wroclaw – Used to be a hole in the ground but it has changed incredibly over
      the past 6-7 years. The atmosphere is great, loads of good bars and
      restaurants. An active business environment. The mindset is still a bit
      małomieszczanski though, but I think it’s changing rapidly.

      Katowice – Here I always get lost. It’s not as bad as it’s reputation, but I
      haven’t been there for a long time.

      Opole – looks like a dying city. It’s really to small to be an administrative
      centre, nothing new happens, the cream moves to larger Polish towns or to
      Germany. Mindset close to village-mentality.

      Torun – this is where I would live for a while if I didn’t need to make a daily
      living. Architecture is great and there is an artistic air to he town. Good
      restaurants. If you are on a economy budget I recommend the Bar Mleczne on
      Rynek but in general the restaurants are very cheap. I think it’s difficult to
      make a living though. There is a punk-scene.

      Zielona Góra – Almost the same as Torun.

      Lódź – Not my favorite city – but Pietrowska is nice.

      Poznan – almost German mindset (some might like that). A vibrating city but I
      would like to know it better.

      Szczecin – I’ve stayed overnight around 20 times, but never found anything that
      would make me go there for pleasure.

      Gdansk – maybe my favorite. Seaport-mentality (I like that). Architecture
      reminds me of Copenhagen. The reconstruction of Długa is indeed very well done.
      Jarmark in the late summer is worth a visit.

      Sopot – simply love it. Great for biking, swimming, sailing, chatting with
      people from all over the world, drinking, eating, concerts and cat-exhibitions.
      It’s more quiet in the winter time, but I still like it. The university makes
      it a real town and not just a holiday resort.

      Gdynia – modern, fast going, streamlined.

      Leszno one of the most boring towns I’ve ever been to – but that was 5 years
      ago.

    • waldek1610 :) 05.02.06, 11:23
      Krakow- has its laid back, Galician atmosphere. The locals seem to be quite
      helpfull and respectfull for visitors and tourists... by the Polish standards.
      Lots of character, patriotism and aristocratic flair mixed with cosmopolitan
      culture and openness to visitors. It is lot less "hippie"... then Praque in
      Czech Rep.

      Warsaw- is worth seeing due to its symbolic status of the Polish capital. It
      used to be lot more beautifull before WWII, and it could easly compete with
      Wienna or even Paris if it wasn't distroyed by Nazi Germany to such extend.

      Despite all that, todays Warsaw has more sky modern scrapers then London, more
      public parks and squares than Berlin, more cosmopolitan atmosphere then Moscow
      or Athens. And of course it is the hometown of Frederic Chopin...what else
      could I say smile
    • ejmarkow Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 05.02.06, 12:02
      During my travels around Poland, I usually enjoy the smaller historic towns
      that don't have too many tourists bumping into one another. There are some
      larger cities that are nice though. I like (in no particular order):

      Warszawa - The most cosmopolitan city in Poland, nice historic core, wide
      avenues, plenty of parks, interesting blend of old and new, amazing that
      approximately 90% of it was rebuilt during the last 60 years, good restaurants
      and nightlife

      Lublin - Stunning old town, a bit rundown at times which gives it that original
      feel

      Tarnów - Excellent old town, resembling a miniature Krakow, nice gothic town
      hall and pedestrian lanes

      Reszel - Gorgeous and tiny, nice castle, churches, stone bridge, period
      buildings

      Olsztyn - Impressive rebuilt old centre and many original buildings scattered
      around, very clean environment

      Torun - historic and old in every sense, nice

      Nowy Sącz - Must see town hall, many fine churches, castle ruins, pleasant
      atmosphere

      Kraków - Nice, breathless, original, beautiful, but way too many tourists

      Krosno - old town centre perched on a small hill, beautiful period houses

      Piotryków Trybulnalski - I was happily shocked as I got off the train there,
      fantastic old town and quite extensive, churches, old town walls, pleasant

      Wrocław - Really impressive and spread out, fine architecture and excellent
      town hall

      Leżajsk - Compact, very attractive, old and original, historic, I enjoyed it

      Zamosc - incredible fortified old town, churches, and splendid center

      Przemysl - Ancient city, an eyeopener, very eastern flavor

      Radom - Old town center was nice with two ryneks, very run down, surrounding
      suburbs were not attractive at all

      Kielce - same as above, except as you approach the city from the highway, an
      ugly ring of apartment blocks sits on top of a hill, nice church and palace,
      train station resembles a UFO

      Kętrzyn - quaint, small old town with fine castle and church

      Zlotoryja - small and nice, beautiful architecture

      Jawór - same as above

      Rzeszów - nice to stroll around for a day, castles and churches, beautiful
      rebuilt town hall

      Łódz - Large, industrial, I got lost there, nice period architecture in the
      center

      Zakliczyn - small historic town next to the Dunajec river, with ruins of the
      Melsztyn castle overlooking the town

      Ciężkowice - Interesting rynek, most houses made of wood, nice gothic church
      and very tiny town, cool stone park reserve nearby

      There are many more.

      Of course, my village, Siemiechów, is attractive in its own
      right...unfortunately, no 'rynek' (market square) or 'ratusz' (town
      hall)...only the public school, post office, meeting hall, local store, fine
      stone and wooden churches, 3 interesting World War I cemetaries for military
      enthusiasts, one nice stone chapel on the north-eastern part of the village,
      some nice roadside chapels and one very old stone religious figure missing a
      hand dating back from the 1800's, excellent views and ski area
      (www.jurasowka-ski.pl/), paradise for mountain bikers, hikers, campers,
      nature watchers, mushroom and berry picking, sipping on a glass of wine or
      beer, and relaxation. If you enjoy laying on a pile of hay in a barn with your
      significant other, this could be the place for you. smile

      Regards,

      Eugene
      Siemiechów, Poland
      www.geocities.com/ejmarkow/siemiechow
      • kylie1 Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 05.02.06, 23:04
        Eugene, your jurasowka site is not opening for some reason.
        As for Siemiechow, I really like the bovine picture licking his chops with this
        huge tongue of his.
        Did you give him a name yet?
        How about Florence the cow?

        I am pulling for Wroclaw, that's my fathers city and he absolutely loves it!

        smile
        • ejmarkow Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 05.02.06, 23:51
          Hi Kylie1,

          Yes, that cow should be the mascot of our village! Unfortunately, there are way
          too many of them here and it wouldn't be fair to the rest of them. I think "Moo-
          Hoo the cow" is a nice one. smile

          I see why the Jurasówka Ski Area web site isn't opening up...for some reason,
          the ")" became highlighted in red as a link. Try:

          www.jurasowka-ski.pl/
          Hope that works. It's our local ski area...not so large, but nice! smile

          Regards,

          Eugene
          Siemiechów, Poland
          www.geocities.com/ejmarkow/siemiechow
          www.jurasowka-ski.pl
          • kylie1 Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 06.02.06, 00:15
            Thanks Eugene, it works fine now. These pics are great too. I will see if I
            can blow them up and use them as my desktop wallpaper.
            Moo Hoo the cow sounds good too. Maybe Florence and Moo Hoo can hang out
            together. I would send those two skiing on those beautiful slopes...cows on
            skis! That would make headlines! I have seen dogs on skateboards before.
            Anything is possible.
            Am I right to think that ski areas near you are much less frequented than say
            Zakopane and therefore a lot more fun?
            My son is a huge ski fan but these year temperatures in Vancouver and around
            did not go below zero. You have to take a longer trip to Whistler or Okanagan
            and it's too much for some.

            Thanks for the pics!
            Geat job!

            smile Kylie
            • ejmarkow Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 06.02.06, 08:47
              Hi Kylie,

              > Am I right to think that ski areas near you are much less frequented than say
              > Zakopane and therefore a lot more fun?

              Actually, our Ski Area here, Jurasówka, even though small, has become one of
              the most frequented slopes around the Tarnów area. Basically, the Carpathian
              foothills start south of Tarnów, so that's where the majority of the clients
              here come from because it is only 30 km away. But you are right, the most
              popular ski resorts are the larger ones such as Zakopane. Krynica, which is
              only about 60 km away from my village and a very large resort, is extremely
              popular as well.

              I'm glad you enjoyed the pics and website. Thanks! smile

              Best Regards,

              Eugene
              Siemiechów, Poland
              www.geocities.com/ejmarkow/siemiechow
                • ejmarkow Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 06.02.06, 13:07
                  marimax napisał:

                  > Limanowa is a nice small town

                  Yes, I agree...nice town center and surroundings! Here is an ariel photo of
                  Limanowa:

                  republika.pl/limanowa2/pol4.jpg
                  More old, attractive historical towns around this region (Małopolskie) are:

                  Tuchów - Nice market square, two churches, town hall, period buildings
                  www.tuchow.pl/
                  Lipnica Murowana - Beautiful market square, old houses, nice monument in the
                  center, medieval layout
                  www.lipnicamurowana.pl/
                  Czchów - Pleasant market square, remains of castle tower, nice church
                  www.czchow.pl/
                  Grybów - Very attractive market square including monumental gothic red brick
                  church, period houses
                  www.grybow.pl/
                  Gorlice - Plenty of old architecture, interesting market square that has
                  overhead walkway and large town hall, attractive church
                  www.gorlice.pl/
                  Biecz - A must visit medieval town with superb market square and side streets,
                  defense walls and church, tenemant houses galore, ancient town hall, former
                  building which held only school for executioners (cutting a person's head off -
                  that was a long time ago), this town prospered due to the trade route with
                  Hungary
                  www.biecz.pl/
                  I previously mentioned the nice city of Zakliczyn (the nearest city to
                  Siemiechów, only 7 km away West) in another post, but forgot to provide the
                  links to their websites. Here are Zakliczyn's links:
                  www.zakliczyn.pl/
                  www.zakliczyn.com/index.php

                  Regards,

                  Eugene
                  Siemiechów, Poland
                  www.geocities.com/ejmarkow/siemiechow
              • kylie1 Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 07.02.06, 01:01
                The skiing is going on all the time. Cypress is only 30 minutes away from
                downtown Vancouver and you are right, skiing at night is a real treat for all
                skiers...some 8km of groomed trails lit throughout the night - absolutely
                amazing! The quality of snow can be different in Cypress than it would be at
                Whistler. This is why my oldest son likes Whistler or the Big White. Right now
                it's +7 degrees at the base of Cypress Mtn. However, in higher elevations the
                snow is always there. We have some 19 km of gorgeous cross country trails and
                plenty of room for snow tubing and tobogganing. A real paradise for families
                with small kids! It's also quite affordable!
                Similarily, we have Seymour Mtn, as you probably know and Grouse Mtn with a
                wonderful skyride lift - all within 30 minutes from Vancouver's downtown.
                I think Polish mountains are also absolutelu gorgeous. If you look at Eugene's
                pictures, I think Polish Mtns can compete with any skiing resort anywhere else
                in the world. No problem.
                BTW, Whistler is very expensive and if you want a cup of coffee with a little
                donut your ten dollar is history real quick...remember that too Chris-Joe?

                smile
                • russh Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 07.02.06, 01:17
                  > I think Polish mountains are also absolutelu gorgeous. If you look at Eugene's
                  > pictures, I think Polish Mtns can compete with any skiing resort anywhere else
                  > in the world. No problem

                  Aaaaaaah. Who told you that Kylie. I know that you are of Polish decent, but not
                  even the most ardent lover of Polish mountains would dare to say what you have
                  just said.
                • chris-joe Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 07.02.06, 02:22
                  I don't think I ever had a donut in Whistler, but I remember having my first
                  poutine there. Although it wasn't the poutine that made me move to Montreal
                  soon after smile

                  I was a Vancouverite for 15 years and I guess I still consider myself as one.

                  And from the Grouse Mtn skilift you can quite often catch a glimpse of deer!

                  As for the Polish mountains- I wouldn't know. I was a teenager when I skied in
                  Poland last time. And that was quite a different era...

                  • kylie1 Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 07.02.06, 03:36
                    I love poutine! I know the French Canadians have perfected the art of poutine
                    but I am quite happy with the Coscto one. You always get a huge helping for 3
                    bucks and it can feed two people quite easily. It's loaded with Mozzarella
                    cheese.
                    Good to know you are from Vancouver! I think you can certainly call yourself a
                    Vancouverite. 15 years is a long time! Or half Vancouverite and half Montrealer?
                    The Greek restaurant you mentioned before is still on Davie and still packed.
                    Last time I was there the line up was stretching for almost half the block.
                    Deer is beutiful but grizzly bear has become a real nuisance to our
                    community.More and more Vancouverites keep finding them in their own backyards!
                    Most of them are tranquilized and released into the wild. It's a huge problem
                    for Vancouver. People start feeling sorry for them or think they can "make
                    friends" with them by leaving food outside. Unfortunately it almost always ends
                    up in something tragic.

                    smile

                    • chris-joe Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 07.02.06, 11:33
                      As for poutine they have plenty of varieties here, even the QC 'macdo' carries a
                      'macpoutine'. I stay away from it for obvious reasons smile

                      I didn't mention any Greek restaurant on Davie but now I'm racking my brain
                      trying to remember its name... Is it "Stepho's"? Right across the street from
                      the local Shoppers Drug Mart (known as "Pharmaprix" in QC).
                      And I should remember- I used to live on Davie.

                      Are you a Westender, too?

                      Ah, the city wildlife of Vancouver... The coyotes, the whole family packs of
                      raccoons, not to mention the Canada geese stopping traffic on Granville Street.
                      The radio reports warning locals of bear spottings in the burbs.
                      And the Westenders warning one another: "Watch out! There's a skunk in the bush
                      ahead" smile

                        • chris-joe Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 07.02.06, 21:30
                          You're almost right mari- the West End Of Vancouver is pretty popular with gays.

                          As for grass smokers- I would argue that they are pretty evenly distributed
                          across the country and I'd risk an opinion that pot consumption per capita in
                          Burnaby or Port Coquitlam (or in any other suburb of Vancouver for that matter)
                          is probably equal to or exceeds that of the West End.

                          You're completely mistaken however when it comes to lesbians and prostitutes.
                          Lesbians tend to like the East End better (Commercial Drive area for example),
                          while the last prostitute may have been spotted in the West End... well, way in
                          the early eighties, no later.

                          Comparing the West End of downtown Vancouver to the skidrow (I suppose that is
                          what you meant when you said "skidroad") i.e. the area around East Hastings and
                          Main proves your complete lack of knowledge of Vancouver.

                          The West End is an urban residential area (and not an inner city) popular with
                          single, younger crowd as well as with middle class, mostly childless, urbanites
                          (gay and straight) etc.
                          Check the prices of the West End condos! Just off the bat I can bet you won't
                          find a 2 bdr appt for rent for less than $1500.

                          Also, could you please try to refrain from using offensive terms like "faggots"
                          in the future?

                          Thanks smile


                      • kylie1 Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 07.02.06, 20:29
                        That's the one on Davie. It is called Stephos.And, yes, it is across from
                        Shoppers Drug Mart - good memory Chris-Joe. smile
                        Yes, we live in Kitsilano.
                        I will leave the whole rest to marimax. He is itching to answer all your
                        questions. He does it with grace and charm, as usual.
                          • chris-joe Re: OK, which cities are your favour and why? 07.02.06, 21:40
                            You're right, Fresgo would be right across the street from that corner
                            convenience store (still there?) and the Shoppers parking lot smile

                            Kits, eh? Nice area, a short Aquabus ride from the West End. What's the name
                            of the beach next to the Aquatic Centre? Is it the Sunset Beach?

                            If I were to move back to Vancouver (and I just may do that in the near future)
                            I would probably be looking for a place in Kits.

                            Oh, another thing from Vancouver I miss dearly: "The Georgia Strait" mag! It
                            rocked! smile
                                • ejmarkow Is Koszalin Attractive? 12.02.06, 14:33
                                  mwanginjagi napisał:

                                  > I love Koszalin, laid-back and easy-going.. friendly and just 30 minutes to
                                  > the sea.

                                  How does Koszalin look architectually? Is it old, new, attractive? Thanks.

                                  Regards,

                                  Eugene
                                  Siemiechów, Poland
                                  • mwanginjagi Re: Is Koszalin Attractive? 13.02.06, 01:58
                                    ejmarkow napisał:

                                    > mwanginjagi napisał:
                                    >
                                    > > I love Koszalin, laid-back and easy-going.. friendly and just 30 minutes
                                    > to
                                    > > the sea.
                                    >
                                    > How does Koszalin look architectually? Is it old, new, attractive? Thanks.
                                    >
                                    > Regards,
                                    >
                                    > Eugene
                                    > Siemiechów, Poland

                                    I guess what really attracts me to Koszalin is it's personality as a city
                                    rather than the architecture and buildings... there is something very unique
                                    about Koszalinczycy... they love life and the love family... there is a sense
                                    of family and oneness... every Koszalin family that I came across was unique in
                                    this sense... they laugh and smile with their hearts... I guess one of the most
                                    unique places I'll ever be in the World...

                                    oo and one thing... Koszalin chicks are so beautiful and voluptious... they'll
                                    blow your brains out!!!

                                    Regards and pozdrawiam
                                    /Mwangi
      • marimax Re: chris-joe 08.02.06, 11:26
        I don't think you know Vancouver very well. Skid road or a skid row there is
        not much difference and I hope you never end up there . You should check Coal
        Harbour rental prices (if you know where it is)to compare it with West End and
        you will see where normal people are moving to.
        Believe me faggot is a faggot the same as whore is a whore

        • chris-joe Re: chris-joe 08.02.06, 11:39
          If you knew Vancouver better then you would know that Coal Harbour IS in the
          West End...

          And the prices in Shaughnessy and British Properties are even higher than in
          Coal Harbour. Does that make Coal Harbour a skidrow?

          What can I say? A moron is a moron.

          cheers smile
          • marimax Re: chris-joe 08.02.06, 13:24
            This time you are right because I had Yaletown on my mind.
            I am sure I could drive you around Vancouver and if left at some areas you
            wouldn't know how to get back toWest End.
            Yes sir a jerk is a jerk, always.
            • chris-joe Re: chris-joe 08.02.06, 19:24
              I left Vancouver 4 yrs ago, visited twice since; given how fast Vancouver
              changes, you're probably right. However what does it prove exactly?
              In this fascinating conversation we've been having it is I who's proven you
              wrong on several occasions and not vice versa.

              Still, what's the Yellow Cab number? 681-1111? Or has it changed as well?
              You see- somehow I'd find my way home smile
        • usenetposts Re: chris-joe 08.02.06, 14:21
          marimax napisał:

          > I don't think you know Vancouver very well. Skid road or a skid row there is
          > not much difference and I hope you never end up there . You should check Coal
          > Harbour rental prices (if you know where it is)to compare it with West End
          and
          > you will see where normal people are moving to.
          > Believe me faggot is a faggot the same as whore is a whore
          >

          You need www.effingpot.com/food.shtml

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