The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's banning.

13.02.06, 07:44
As much as I'm against censorship, I believe that arrogant people such as
Nasza Maggie, who try to take away freedom of speech from others, should be
stoped and slapped on the hand for the the sake of our democratic ideals.
Nasza Maggie, for some reason believes that not only she has have a right do
decide who's ideas are acceptable and who's are not, she tries to dispose off
and blackmail people who doesn't fit her radical leftist idea of World.

I believe her position is strongly liberal, globalistic and anti-patriotic,
one that judges people based on one set of norms, that ironically happen to
be Anglo-Saxon in character...which Maggie relentlesly wants to impose on me,
which I strongly oppose as they don't fit traditional Polish ideals.


Not only her vision of the World differ dramatically, from norms accepted by
majority of Poles (and yes, we have to respect the fact that we are in Polish
internet enviroment!!!), she is trying to highjack the right to make rules
for this and other forums that suite her, although she seems to be a product
of Western European liberal establishment and doesn't reflect even slightly
true feelings of Polish society.

I vote for letting Maggie stay, but I urge you to help her understand that
she is not better than others and in fact she doesn't know better what is
acceptable in Polish society.

I think now when PIS (Law and Justice Party) and Lech Kaczynski has assumed
power in Poland, Maggie and other liberals, leftist, anti-nationalist
represent the minority in Poland who are in decline and on defensive position
which she realises, and in fact it makes her attacs on conservative pro-
Polish Waldek even more agressive and relentless.

Please help me stop the leftist demagouge to do more damage to the
traditional Polish state!
    • varsovian Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 13.02.06, 11:36
      PiS is exceptionally anti-nationalistic in one vital way - it kowtows to Radio
      Maryja, which everyone should know was set up with the help of a
      Polish "nationalist" who comletely by accident of course spent the war in an SS
      uniform then ran off to South America where he's been happily hob-nobbing with
      Fascists ever since.
      In a normal country Radio Maryja would be marginalised.
      Shame on Poland, shame on the pathetic Polish catholic church - a spineless
      organisation full of extremists and cowards.
      Waldo - grow a brain.
      • russh Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 13.02.06, 11:42
        Strong words Dave, and from a Catholic in Poland takes some courage. My hat off
        to you.

        How was the skiing?
        • varsovian Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 13.02.06, 11:59
          Bloody marvellous!
          Good quality food, drink, accommodation and skiing. Austrians are brilliant
          people, if somewhat dubious politically.
          • russh Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 13.02.06, 12:58
            Best skiing hols I ever had were in Austria. The atmosphere is fantastic, and as
            you say, food, drink, accomodation & skiing are all 1st class.
            • waldek1610 Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 13.02.06, 13:01
              Do not litter this post with your hiking discussion. Do you want to ban Nasza
              Maggie or not? Or perheaps you prefer not to be against your fellow liberal?
        • waldek1610 Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 13.02.06, 12:53
          russh napisał:

          > Strong words Dave, and from a Catholic in Poland takes some courage. My hat
          > off to you.

          How wonderfull, you prise the Catholic for being against Catholics....maybe you
          going to go as far as to bribe him to act liberal, because you want to Poland
          fit you, and not its population...
          • russh Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 13.02.06, 12:59
            Waldek, please look at, and put on a post, the definition of liberal (small 'l').
      • waldek1610 Catholic nation needs strong Catholic media.... 13.02.06, 12:15
        even if it doesn't suite those small liberal groups that oppose it. If Maggie
        and You Varsovian don't want to see any Catholic influence around you ..you
        should move to Netherlands perheaps.

        Where does it says that Catholic media should be marginalised in a democratic
        country? Especially when 95% of Poland's population happens to be.... Catholic.

        If the the fishing or biking enthusiasts can have their own TV Channals or
        periodicals.....I don't see the reason why the Catholics can have their own
        media, especially when it is so numerous.

        Just because relatively small group of gays, lesbian, feminists and socialist
        thinks that the Catholic Church is not helping them promote their radicaly
        liberal lifestyles?
        • bluteau Re: Catholic nation needs strong Catholic media.. 13.02.06, 13:00
          Where do you get this 95% from? This is a popular "statistic". Besides, you're
          forgetting that a very large number of Poles are Catholic only on paper, so they
          don't necessarily feel their interests are being served by the Church, and
          certainly not by Radio Maryja and TV Trwam.

          I'm not gay, lesbian, feminist or socialist - watch how you throw these terms
          about - like a lot of other people here, nor do I lead a debauched (read liberal
          for Waldek) life. Still, the Catholic Church doesn't speak for me. The problem
          in fact doesn't even lie with the Church itself, at least not in Poland. The
          problem stems from loony organisations like Imperium Rydzyka. Don't even try to
          say that the majority of Poles in Poland listen to, support and obey Radio Maryja.
        • russh Re: Catholic nation needs strong Catholic media.. 13.02.06, 13:01
          Reactionist, fundementalist! Fortunately the current young generation of Poles
          (the future of Poland) is totally against your way of thinking.
          • waldek1610 Re: Catholic nation needs strong Catholic media.. 13.02.06, 13:05
            russh napisał:

            > Reactionist, fundementalist! Fortunately the current young generation of Poles
            > (the future of Poland) is totally against your way of thinking.


            A lot of young Poles worry more about making decent living so they ignore their
            patiotic duties, but just wait when standard of living goes up in Poland more
            and more Poles will return to traditionaly Polish conservative values!
            • ianek70 You know nothing about life in Poland 13.02.06, 13:09
              waldek1610 napisał:

              > A lot of young Poles worry more about making decent living so they ignore
              their
              >
              > patiotic duties, but just wait when standard of living goes up in Poland more
              > and more Poles will return to traditionaly Polish conservative values!

              You keep telling us that Poles already have these values.
              You don't live in Poland, you know nothing.
            • russh Re: Catholic nation needs strong Catholic media.. 13.02.06, 13:22
              > A lot of young Poles worry more about making decent living so they ignore their
              >
              > patiotic duties, but just wait when standard of living goes up in Poland more
              > and more Poles will return to traditionaly Polish conservative values!

              In the one area of Poland where there is a high standard of living, Warsaw, the
              young generation is liberal, and voted against the current president! This is
              Polands future; more liberal and open.
              • waldek1610 Re: Catholic nation needs strong Catholic media.. 14.02.06, 23:23
                Warsaw might in fact have higher standart of living then rest of Poland, but
                its not high at all by Western European standards.

                It is somewhat typical that in new democracy people tend to ignore patriotism,
                focussing on the chase after better living. Because many Poles still confuse
                patriotism with the former Socialist regime they tend to shun from it.

                But as you see in richer countries such as Germany poeple tend to be more loyal
                and patriotic putting interest of their country first.
                • ianek70 Waldo's European Adventures 15.02.06, 12:53
                  waldek1610 napisał:

                  > But as you see in richer countries such as Germany poeple tend to be more
                  loyal
                  > and patriotic putting interest of their country first.

                  So you've spent a lot of time in Germany, have you, or are you just talking out
                  your arse again?
            • bartis_ervin Re: Catholic nation needs strong Catholic media.. 13.02.06, 15:05

              You know what Waldek? Come home and form a "moherowe" political party and paint
              Rydzyk in 20.000 ways. You will make a bright career. Then at least you would do
              what you preach and I could respect you a bit. Until then, shut up: you don't
              even remember what Poland looks like.

              Any of us foreigners living in Poland, have more right to vote in Poland than you.

              Ervin

              Thebartiski.blogspot.com
        • ianek70 Catholic nation needs good kick up arse 13.02.06, 13:04
          waldek1610 napisał:

          > Where does it says that Catholic media should be marginalised in a democratic
          > country?

          If you visited Poland, you'd know the so-called Catholic media is not
          marginalised.

          > Especially when 95% of Poland's population happens to be.... Catholic.

          Yeah, right.
          95% of Poles were christened by their parents, who were afraid of what the
          neighbours might say otherwise. This means the Catholic church can claim 95% of
          Poles as "wierni".
          Any adult who believes in ghosts and angels, the evil of contraception,
          horoscopes and sex before marriage, the infallibility of the present (and next)
          pope, the necessity of idolatrous rituals as a road to the afterlife and all
          the other fairy tales invented by the Vatican over the centuries is simply
          stupid.
          Anyone who doesn't believe in these, but who claims to be a Catholic, is a liar
          and a hypocrite.

          The headline in "Fakt" (a Polish newspaper, like the Wyborcza but with a daily
          horoscope and breasts) at the weekend was:
          "Do we have to emigrate?" (because Poland is poor and backward).
          Interestingly, at the top of the front page were the words "Which saints to
          pray to? Your guide!"
          But I'd have to buy the paper to see which dead saints would provide advice on
          improving the Polish economy.
          I don't know who's the patron saint of the unemployed, but I reckon that when
          the majority of Poles realise the connection between weird medieval
          superstitions and the hopeless state of their country, then there may be some
          chance of an improvement.
          • waldek1610 Re: Catholic nation needs good kick up arse 13.02.06, 13:13
            Ianke,
            Even if "only" 50 or 40% percent of Poles were practising Catholics, that is
            still some 15-20 milion people! How can you ignore such a numerous
            group...Don't you think that 15 milion people have a right to see on TV what
            they prefere..for example discussions about catholicism....

            Why should 20 milion practicing Catholics be forced to watch gay or feminist
            movies, just because that what some people living 1 thousand miles west want?
            • ianek70 Catholic nation needs good big kick up arse 13.02.06, 13:28
              waldek1610 napisał:

              > Even if "only" 50 or 40% percent of Poles were practising Catholics, that is
              > still some 15-20 milion people! How can you ignore such a numerous
              > group...

              It's hard to ignore them in Poland, Waldo, they're very loud and annoying, and
              they are constantly demanding things that they already have.

              > Don't you think that 15 milion people have a right to see on TV what
              > they prefere..for example discussions about catholicism....

              Do you ever watch Polish TV?
              The Catholic church has its own channels here, they're called TVP1, TVP2, etc...
              But having said that, I've never ever seen a DISCUSSION about Catholicism on
              Polish telly, just lots of propaganda. Programmes for teenagers where celibate
              priests tell young folk of the evils of safe sex, for example.
              "News" programmes about how Muslims and Jews cried together when the last pope
              died, and atheists prayed for his soul...

              > Why should 20 milion practicing Catholics be forced to watch gay or feminist
              > movies, just because that what some people living 1 thousand miles west want?

              Good question. Why should anyone be forced to watch gay movies?
              Simple answer - they're not.
          • bluteau Re: Catholic nation needs good kick up arse 13.02.06, 13:16
            >Any adult who believes in ghosts and angels, the evil of contraception,
            >horoscopes and sex before marriage, the infallibility of the present (and next)
            >pope, the necessity of idolatrous rituals as a road to the afterlife and all
            >the other fairy tales invented by the Vatican over the centuries is simply
            >stupid.

            Careful, careful, Ianek. It may not be your cup of tea, but there are a lot of
            Catholics in the World and they have a right to be Catholics. Another thing is
            that a lot of Catholics I know don't actually follow all of the Church's
            doctrines, but they are Catholics none-the-less and it brings them happiness
            (spiritual or otherwise).
            One of the reasons I'm (I hope we) are trying to get rid of Waldek is because of
            his narrow-mindedness and intolerance. Please don't stoop to his level.
            • varsovian Re: Catholic nation needs good kick up arse 13.02.06, 13:44
              Catholics have a right to practice their religion. They have no rights to be
              protected against Nazi extremism mascarading as Polish nationalism, because the
              Church gives no rights to its followers.
              Unfortunately, the clergy - even highly educated priests in affluent suburbs of
              Warsaw - have the same moral backbone and political sense as the German
              Catholic Centre Party, which provided Hitler with his majority in the vote on
              dictatorial powers.
              I'm not surprised Waldo is impressed by them ... what a towering intellect!
              • bluteau Re: Catholic nation needs good kick up arse 13.02.06, 14:04
                > Catholics have a right to practice their religion. They have no rights to be
                > protected against Nazi extremism mascarading as Polish nationalism, because the
                >Church gives no rights to its followers.

                I perfectly agree with you Varsovian. Still, there is a difference between
                Catholicism and its Church and fascist, extremist organisations like Rydzyk Sp.
                z o.o. and its followers (who are not that great in number). It's also true that
                there are other dangerous and, unfortunately, influencial figures apart from
                Rydzyk in Poland, but I think it's up to the Catholics themeselves to overthrow
                such figures if they deem it necessary. All the same, no religion is stupid,
                only certain of its practitioners.
            • ianek70 Re: Catholic nation needs good kick up arse 13.02.06, 13:49
              bluteau napisała:

              > >Any adult who believes in ghosts and angels, the evil of contraception,
              > >horoscopes and sex before marriage, the infallibility of the present (and
              > next)
              > >pope, the necessity of idolatrous rituals as a road to the afterlife and a
              > ll
              > >the other fairy tales invented by the Vatican over the centuries is simply
              > >stupid.
              >
              > Careful, careful, Ianek. It may not be your cup of tea, but there are a lot of
              > Catholics in the World and they have a right to be Catholics. Another thing is
              > that a lot of Catholics I know don't actually follow all of the Church's
              > doctrines, but they are Catholics none-the-less and it brings them happiness
              > (spiritual or otherwise).
              > One of the reasons I'm (I hope we) are trying to get rid of Waldek is because
              o
              > f
              > his narrow-mindedness and intolerance. Please don't stoop to his level.

              It's true that people generally believe what they want, or what's convenient
              for them, but they still consider themselves Catholics, Protestants or whatever
              according to local or family tradition. I know plenty of Scots who call
              themselves Catholics, but none of them believe in any of the things I mentioned
              above. But then none of them would pretend the pope is/was their "moral
              authority".
              Why should people in one geographical area believe a biscuit represents the
              body of a dead Jewish carpenter, and in another area that it IS his body?
              "But Mummy, everyone else is doing it..." is fine in primary school, but when
              it becomes part of someone's tribal identity, it's a bit sad.
              People can believe what they want, and I'll respect it if they can explain why.
              • nasza_maggie question 13.02.06, 13:56
                does anybody know, where I can buy Terry's chocolate orange in warsaw?

                thxsmile
                • ianek70 Re: question 13.02.06, 14:08
                  nasza_maggie napisała:

                  > does anybody know, where I can buy Terry's chocolate orange in warsaw?

                  Ask Terry.
                  • nasza_maggie Re: question 13.02.06, 14:12
                    he told me to ask you lotsmile but I think the question is too simple smile)) no?
                • kylie1 Re: question 13.02.06, 21:29
                  Terry's chocolate "orange" reminds me of a cute commercial. The guy is holding
                  the chocolate orange and then bangs it real hard on the table. The bang is so
                  loud that the bathtub falls through the ceiling and plunks itself right in
                  front of him. The woman looks somewhat surprised and quickly covers her
                  breasts. Then there is this huge blissful smile on his face. The voice on the
                  commercial says:
                  "Heavenly things happen when you have Terry's chocolate orange".
                  • nasza_maggie Re: question 14.02.06, 01:43
                    smile))))) I haven't seen that onesmile)
              • usenetposts Re: Catholic nation needs good kick up arse 14.02.06, 01:15
                He's not dead, by the way.
    • ianek70 Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 13.02.06, 14:07
      waldek1610 napisał:

      > As much as I'm against censorship,

      Except on your own forum, of course.
      Do you still write on that, or have you banned yourself?
      • nasza_maggie Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 13.02.06, 14:13
        for life!
        • kylie1 Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 14.02.06, 01:29
          Waldo, I am officially closing this poll due to lack of interest and response.
          • kylie1 Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 14.02.06, 01:32
            Maggie is staying put, Waldo.
            • nasza_maggie Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 14.02.06, 01:43
              why thank you miss kylie for your support. I love you toosmile

              And now I dedicate to you this lovely song, please forgive me if it is a little
              out of tune - my piano is a tad rusty, here goes:
              --
              Green light, seven eleven
              You stop in for a pack of cigarettes
              You don?t smoke, don?t even want to
              I see you check your change
              Dressed up like a car crash
              The wheels are turning byt you?re upside down
              You say when he hits you, you don?t mind
              Because when he hurts you, you feel alive
              Is that what it is?

              Red lights, grey morning
              You stumble out of a hole in the ground
              A vampire or a victim
              It depend?s on who?s around
              You used to stay in to watch the adverts
              You could lip synch to the talk shows

              And if you look, you look through me
              And if you talk it?s not to me
              And when I touch you, you don?t feel a thing

              If I could stay... then the night would give you up
              Stay, and the day would keep it?s trust
              Stay, and the night would be enough

              Faraway, so close
              Up with the static and the radio
              With satelite television
              You can go anywhere
              Miami, new orleans, london, belfast and berlin

              And if you listen I can?t call
              And if you jump, you just might fall
              And if you shout I?ll only hear you

              If I could stay... then the night would give you up
              Stay then the day would keep it?s trust
              Stay with the demons you drowned
              Stay with the spirit I found
              Stay and the night would be enough

              Three o?clock in the morning
              It?s quiet and there?s no one around
              Just the bang and the clatter
              As an angel runs to ground
              Just the bang and the clatter
              As an angel hits the ground

              ----

              Did you like that? I didsmile))


              Anyway, I vote for myself to stay. So I guess we can close tha ballot now. I
              win! I win!!!
              • kylie1 Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 14.02.06, 07:45
                Thank you Maggie. You are very kind.
                This happens to be a U2 song, right?
                You know where this is going?...Waldo's gonna have another conniption.
                Don't worry, this will be a repeat of everything he has already said before.

                smile
                • bluteau Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 14.02.06, 10:14
                  Waldek's been pretty quiet recently. Have you noticed? Let's hope it lasts...
                  • waldek1610 Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 14.02.06, 23:29
                    bluteau napisała:

                    > Waldek's been pretty quiet recently. Have you noticed? Let's hope it lasts...

                    I have my own private life too....and don't worry I'm not leaving you, but
                    Maggie might be saying "good bye" very soon.
              • usenetposts Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 14.02.06, 12:51
                I vote that Maggie stays. For good this time.
                • kylie1 Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 14.02.06, 23:48
                  > I vote that Maggie stays. For good this time.

                  Waldo, the lame duck, actually gets his first response.
                  I think he is getting too much recognition from you Dave. smile
    • terra-nova Re: The ballot box is open on Nasza_Maggie's bann 14.02.06, 22:32
      She is not arrogant she is just stupid in very Polish "koltun" way
      • waldek1610 uncodding Nasza_Maggie 14.02.06, 23:36
        terra-nova napisała:

        > She is not arrogant she is just stupid in very Polish "koltun" way

        I would say that she is a type of poor girl from province who lived in the West
        for few years, returned to Poland and now thinks she is such a cosmopolitan
        liberated women who knows better what's good for Poland....

        Never mind that everybody around her seems to ignore such an arrogant feminist
        who thinks that because she has learned English language and bought some
        western clothing she is now a big shot "European"....that is such a ridiculous
        sight.
        • chris-joe Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 14.02.06, 23:41
          And what "Polish clothing" -as opposed to "western clothing"- would look like? smile))
          What Polish garments do you wear, waldek? smile)))))
          • waldek1610 Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 14.02.06, 23:53
            You know the fashion designer types such "Yves Saint Lorant, Gucci, and other
            expensive brand name clothing that most Poles can not afford...
            • nasza_maggie Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 15.02.06, 00:03
              Erm, you really don't know much about Poles but we already established that.

              I am glad that you take an interest in my clothing, nice to be appreciated. But
              my! How your imagination workssmile

              btw. you'll be happy to know I own a mohair beret - very, very nicesmile mohair is
              fantastic. But you probably have one too, so no need to explainsmile

              Oh and...uncodding? What is that? I mean, I do like my fish and chips and that
              but you probably don't believe me, since I am that rich, liberal, feminist
              etc.etc (I cannot remember them all!!!) you probably think I only eat caviar.
              Which, coincidentally, I cannot stand. But it seems no matter how hard I try
              your imagination is really going to go into over drive any secondsmile



              how was your valentines Walduś? Nice one?
            • chris-joe Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 15.02.06, 00:06
              "You know the fashion designer types such "Yves Saint Lorant, Gucci, and other
              expensive brand name clothing that most Poles can not afford..."

              -But apparently she can. So what's it to you?

              Would the more affordable garments from some Polish version of WalMart, made in
              Pakistan or Turkey, be more "Polish" to your liking?

              You've already informed us what kind of media you would like to see monopolize
              the Polish market, now you're telling us what the Poles should wear? smile)))
              • nasza_maggie Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 15.02.06, 00:08
                chris
                we can get a gist of waldeks fashion tips on forum 'na luzie' smile)

                besides in this beatufil homeland, we have snazzy fashion designers too - but
                he knows not of their existance and talent. oh well, his losssmile
                • ianek70 Re: Fashion 15.02.06, 13:03
                  nasza_maggie napisała:

                  > chris
                  > we can get a gist of waldeks fashion tips on forum 'na luzie' smile)

                  Doesn't Waldo just wear whatever uniform his government tells him to?
                  Or was he a plain-clothes US marine?

                  > besides in this beatufil homeland, we have snazzy fashion designers too

                  And the most famous is called Minge, although unfortunately it's pronounced
                  differently than in English, and doesn't have the same meaning sad
                  However, I do always stop and laugh childishly whenever I pass the shop smile
                  • nasza_maggie Re: Fashion 15.02.06, 23:04
                    You're wrong there Ian...Minge is not that known actually, she rode on the back
                    of Kwasniewska and that is about it.

                    The likes of Maciej Zien, Gosia Baczynska and Tomasz Wroblewski have reached
                    far and wide fashion markets in Europe. Not fogetting Arkadius - but he just
                    run up some bills and did a runner.


                    Oh and not forgetting polish modelssmile)
                    • ianek70 Re: Fashion 16.02.06, 13:44
                      nasza_maggie napisała:

                      > Minge is not that known actually, she rode on the back
                      > of Kwasniewska

                      Was Olek not jealous?

                      > The likes of Maciej Zien, Gosia Baczynska and Tomasz Wroblewski have reached
                      > far and wide fashion markets in Europe. Not fogetting Arkadius - but he just
                      > run up some bills and did a runner.

                      Yes, maybe, but their names aren't as funny as Minge.
                      Are you saying I'm not fashionable? With these trousers?
                      • nasza_maggie Re: Fashion 16.02.06, 13:47
                        It won't sound very original, but there is nothing less sexy than a scotsman
                        without a skirtsmile))))
              • kylie1 Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 15.02.06, 00:14
                i wear the Wal-Mart brand and it's just as comfortable. I am way too cheap to
                spend $ for designer underwear. Whos' gonna see it after all - my butt crack?
                smile
                • nasza_maggie Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 15.02.06, 00:18
                  Kylie, sorry but we can no longer be friendssmile You cannot expect me to stoop to
                  your level and be mates with someone who wears wal mart and not marks and
                  spencers or sloggi knickers. And to be even more precise. Thongs are a big no
                  no in my part of town! smile))))
                  Unless, you buy bras of a better brand - then we can renegotiate our
                  friendshipsmile)))))
                  • usenetposts Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 15.02.06, 13:09
                    nasza_maggie napisała:

                    > Kylie, sorry but we can no longer be friendssmile You cannot expect me to stoop
                    to
                    >
                    > your level and be mates with someone who wears wal mart and not marks and
                    > spencers or sloggi knickers. And to be even more precise. Thongs are a big no
                    > no in my part of town! smile))))
                    > Unless, you buy bras of a better brand - then we can renegotiate our
                    > friendshipsmile)))))

                    We only have your word that you wear Sloggies, Maggie.

                    Is there no way we can document this more precisely?
                    • nasza_maggie Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 15.02.06, 23:05
                      You wish!!
                      I only mentioned those 2 brands so that the mohair police don't konck on my
                      doorsmile
                  • kylie1 Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 15.02.06, 23:20
                    Maggie, Wal-Mart is far better than Marks & Spencer. See, you get to choose
                    from different sizes and they go like that:
                    SM (small)
                    M (medium)
                    L (large)
                    XL
                    or Parachute (very popular in N.America!)

                    which one do you fit in?

                    smile
                    • nasza_maggie Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 15.02.06, 23:21
                      P = perfectsmile)))
                      • kylie1 Re: uncodding Nasza_Maggie 15.02.06, 23:38
                        "Parachute" undies can also be used as a tent when you go camping. They are
                        quite versatile.
                        As for thongs, I am like you, Maggie - my daughter loves thongs but don't you
                        think it must feel like wearing a rubber band right in your "coin slot"? My
                        husband always says he can find more material on the end of a Q-tip...
                        • nasza_maggie walmart:) 16.02.06, 13:12
                          (CNN)
                          • ianek70 Girlie things 16.02.06, 14:01
                            nasza_maggie napisała:

                            > (CNN)
                            • nasza_maggie Re: Girlie things 16.02.06, 14:28
                              next thing you know they'll have them in drive thru McD's smile
                              Oh America....
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