What happens when you tolerate intolerance........

17.02.06, 11:06
What's going to happen if in hundred years, muslim populations in UK and
France are going to excede the 50% of the total? And knowing the familly
oriented islamic culture and the birth rates..it is going to happen.

Let me see, I don't perceive muslims voting to keep abortion rights or rights
of women or the freedom of press....for that matter. I'm sure they are going
to vote against it. Ironically they going to use European democracy to vote
democracy out.....I guess the briliant Euro-minds never perceived such a
scenario unravel. You might say; "So what muslim population grows in Europe..
what's the problem?"

Nothing really, if you and your kids don't mind wearing "berkas", and going
back to the midlle ages....
    • ianek70 Meanwhile, in Europe... 17.02.06, 14:23
      Look! It's started snowing again.
      • nasza_maggie Re: Meanwhile, in Europe... 17.02.06, 14:37
        It's not that bad though! There are plent of birdies outside my window,
        chirping away, so it must be getting warmersmile

        Time to put away the leg warmers, eh?
        • usenetposts Re: Meanwhile, in Europe... 17.02.06, 18:21
          nasza_maggie napisała:

          > It's not that bad though! There are plent of birdies outside my window,
          > chirping away, so it must be getting warmersmile

          I hope they are not sneezing, that's all.

          >
          > Time to put away the leg warmers, eh?

          You need no woollen leg warmers, wor Maggie, while Waldek lives!
          • nasza_maggie Re: Meanwhile, in Europe... 18.02.06, 01:03
            Sneezing? Nooo it's me the one with the sneezing problem of late?

            Dave dear, nothing beats the leg warmers my Gran made! smile
    • usenetposts Re: What happens when you tolerate intolerance... 17.02.06, 18:24
      waldek1610 napisał:

      > What's going to happen if in hundred years, muslim populations in UK and
      > France are going to excede the 50% of the total? And knowing the familly
      > oriented islamic culture and the birth rates..it is going to happen.
      >
      > Let me see, I don't perceive muslims voting to keep abortion rights or rights
      > of women or the freedom of press....for that matter. I'm sure they are going
      > to vote against it. Ironically they going to use European democracy to vote
      > democracy out.....I guess the briliant Euro-minds never perceived such a
      > scenario unravel. You might say; "So what muslim population grows in Europe..
      > what's the problem?"
      >
      > Nothing really, if you and your kids don't mind wearing "berkas", and going
      > back to the midlle ages....
      >

      It's very simple. If we leave outright war on the Islamic world too long or go
      about it in too "humanitarian" a way, then they will win, and then we can
      expect no mercy.

      Unfortunately, British politicians don't seem to understand that, in their
      ivory towers. Soldiers on the front line evidently do though.
      • waldek1610 Re: What happens when you tolerate intolerance... 18.02.06, 08:07
        usenetposts napisał:

        > It's very simple. If we leave outright war on the Islamic world too long or
        > go about it in too "humanitarian" a way, then they will win, and then we can
        > expect no mercy.
        > Unfortunately, British politicians don't seem to understand that, in their
        > ivory towers. Soldiers on the front line evidently do though.


        Are you sugesting, British governement should cut the Bull Shit and start
        acting like a landlord of its own land and not the mother Teresa?

        Common sense tells me that when muslims atack Europe harder and harder, getting
        more and more violent, You guys..the Europeans should go to streets and protest
        against islamic intolerance.
        • russh Re: What happens when you tolerate intolerance... 18.02.06, 09:08
          This time Waldek I'm with you all the way!
          • waldek1610 Re: What happens when you tolerate intolerance... 18.02.06, 10:01
            I'm very glad Russh! If I'm against Bias, we all shold look after our own
            interests and they after our friends, if someone chooses to be our enemies
            that's their choice.
          • usenetposts Re: What happens when you tolerate intolerance... 19.02.06, 01:56
            russh napisał:

            > This time Waldek I'm with you all the way!

            I wanted to share with you a poem that a Usenet friend of mine, the poet Ilya
            Shambat, sent to me.

            The rest of the text here to my sig is his fine poem, which I hope everyone
            finds inspiring:


            I do not fear you Al Quaeda
            =================

            I do not fear you Al Quaeda
            Though fear be your game
            Humankind is much braver
            Than you would like to claim

            How much you wish to murder
            And how much you spill blood
            Liberty is much bolder
            And a much truer good:

            God does not need weak bullies
            Wife-beaters, crooks and knaves
            To speak for Him - and truly
            Neither does He need slaves;

            But people freely willing
            To do what's true and good -
            Only a choice made freely
            Can be pleasing to God:

            And choice forced at gunpoint
            Is not a choice that's true:
            That's why it is not Godly -
            That's why I don't fear you -

            Snoops, bullies, cowards, sadists -
            Venal malicious scum -
            That is your name, jihadists
            From Kabul to Sudan -

            That is your name, Al Quaeda
            And man is more than that:
            Far wiser, nobler, greater
            Than you can understand:

            Being of Inspiration
            Being of Heart and Mind
            Being of Choice and Passion
            Thus open to Divine:

            And thus open to Wisdom
            And thus open to God
            And freedom comes preceding
            Before all else that's good:

            Knowledge, experience, wisdom,
            Love of God and mankind,
            All presuppose freedom
            Of body, heart and mind:

            Freedom of information
            And of experience
            Precedes all inspiration
            And all intelligence:

            And then man chooses truly
            To define where he stands -
            And then man can be moral
            In any real sense.

            Ethics is act of choosing -
            Godliness can't be forced -
            And for this you'll be losing
            From South to the North:

            For this you stand refuted
            And man will fight again
            For goodness, wisdom, beauty
            And all he has attained:

            From art to film to science
            To true democracy
            To civil rights, to business
            And to diplomacy -

            To California, Sweden,
            To Paris, Venice, Spain -
            To all embodied wisdom
            In all man has attained.

            Who are you, petty bullies
            To threaten humankind?
            Who are you creeps and fools and
            Treacherous vicious slime?

            God needs not you, Al Quaeda,
            Nor do you speak His will:
            And man will overcome you
            How many men you kill:

            How many trains you bomb or
            How many planes you send:
            Whomever you will murder
            Or what ill you intend:

            Whomever you rape or torture,
            Or intend to destroy,
            What injury you conjure,
            Man will defeat your ploy.

            Al Quaeda! I fear nothing
            Of what you are and do:
            And if it's what is called for
            I will go after you.

            ==============

            Ilya Shambat.
            • russh Re: What happens when you tolerate intolerance... 19.02.06, 07:36
              Super
            • russh Re: What happens when you tolerate intolerance... 19.02.06, 07:37
              Wonderful
              • usenetposts Re: What happens when you tolerate intolerance... 19.02.06, 13:23
                He certainly shows what can be done in English by someone who has it as a
                second language. I think writing poetry in a foreign language requires a very
                high degree of mastery. OK, there are one or two things in their that have a
                non-native ring to them, but that only underlines the achievement, in my view.
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