Is the institution of marriage outdated?

19.02.06, 19:02
In spite of several long-lasting live-in relationships I never married. I
declared myself a few times, but in the end the consequences became to
immeasurable and I ran away before the final conviction.

It seems to be a very long time to commit Yourself for the rest of life. The
point is, sexual attraction lasts for so and so long. If You want to commit
Yourself for something which in principle should last for life, then You need
something else. It was quite easy 100 years ago as the family was the basic
economic unit and very few people could really manage financially without
such an institution. It is not so in today’s Europe – maybe still to a
certain degree in Poland, but it’s changing rapidly. You can of course base a
marriage on children or other values and many people do and should be allowed
to do so. But what about all the people who would like another construction –
less binding and without the sacramental connotations of a marriage.

The duty of a state is in my opinion to ensure a legal framework for all its
citizens. It is also obvious that when You enter into cohabitation then You
should have certain obligations to maintain your partner. We need this legal
framework in most European countries, trough most governments have now
introduced a solution for homosexual couples. But what about the
heterosexuals who just want another framework?

And why stop here. Why can three or four people not commit themselves to each
other? Having sex with each other or not. Religious groups, communist
collectives and monasteries are obvious groups that would benefit (and get
obligations) from such a commitment. I’m sure the need is there, and then the
government has an obligation to provide the regulations. If not it’s just a
majority dictatorship.
    • usenetposts Re: Is the institution of marriage outdated? 19.02.06, 23:34
      If you didn't love them they you did yourself and them a favour by not marrying
      them.

      And marriage based on sex is definately a ticket to hell.

      But as long as two people find each other and find the other half of themselves
      in the other person's character, and are lifetime friends, then I am sure that
      the institution of marriage will not be outdated. Neither will it be challenged
      by polygamous arrangements, with or without the influence of religious belief.

      It is simply the way most of us are wired. But if you're not, then you can be
      happy that nobody is forcing you to get married.
      • yoric Re: Is the institution of marriage outdated? 19.02.06, 23:56
        One of stock conversation class topics smile.

        But a good point was made, too.

        And how about this:

        > And marriage based on sex is definately a ticket to hell.

        How about a marriage with no (or very little) sex, where (as you would expect)
        one party is dissatisfied with this situation? There's a large forum neraby
        devoted to this...
        • usenetposts Re: Is the institution of marriage outdated? 20.02.06, 00:56

          yoric napisał:
          > > And marriage based on sex is definately a ticket to hell.
          >
          > How about a marriage with no (or very little) sex, where (as you would expect)
          > one party is dissatisfied with this situation? There's a large forum neraby
          > devoted to this...

          A nicely written essay on this from the Christian perspective is here:

          tinyurl.com/kq2rl
      • waldek1610 disfunctional Hardenfelt's wishfull thinking 20.02.06, 10:26
        usenetposts napisał:

        > It is simply the way most of us are wired. But if you're not, then you can be
        > happy that nobody is forcing you to get married.


        Dave,
        This Hardenfelt guy is not satisfied with having a right not to marry, he wants
        to impose his Euro/liberal/disfunctional believs on everybody else. Because he
        doesn't feel as an adequate human being, while great majority doesn't follow
        his distorted ideas about life.


        Thanks God, people will not let some psuchopath Euro/burocrats to program
        entire European populiation with a gay/feminist vision of the World.
    • waldek1610 Are you recipient of artificial brain transplant? 20.02.06, 10:19
      ...Are you a recipient of the artificial brain transplant that was engineered
      somwhere in Brussels or Amsterdam by the psycho-maniac lesbian or feminist
      scientist? Your theories sound like they been cited right out of the Marxs or
      Engels Communist memorandos. It is pure nonsense.

      You are confusing human beings with.... some robots that you can download with
      series of tasks and functions that you would like them perform.

      Thankfully human beings know what is good for them, and will not let the
      psychotic socio/cultural engineer perform experiments on them.
      • hardenfelt Re: Are you recipient of artificial brain transpl 20.02.06, 11:34
        Waldo shouted:
        Are you a recipient of the artificial brain transplant that was engineered
        > somwhere in Brussels or Amsterdam by the psycho-maniac lesbian or feminist
        > scientist?

        David – please remove me from my status of a honorary woman; this is just
        funny, I don’t want any protection.
        • usenetposts Re: Are you recipient of artificial brain transpl 20.02.06, 15:13
          hardenfelt napisał:

          > Waldo shouted:
          > Are you a recipient of the artificial brain transplant that was engineered
          > > somwhere in Brussels or Amsterdam by the psycho-maniac lesbian or feminis
          > t
          > > scientist?
          >
          > David – please remove me from my status of a honorary woman; this is just
          >
          > funny, I don’t want any protection.

          OK, you're a geezer again.
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