chris-joe 19.03.06, 06:16 www.humorek24.net/dowcipy_o_zydach/index.php?ide=1 Where do you report this? Odpowiedz Link czytaj wygodnie posty
ms.jones Re: What can be done about it? 19.03.06, 11:53 I don't know but it's sick. And he's got some big sponsors. Would they be happy to have their names next this material? Odpowiedz Link
chris-joe Re: What can be done about it? 19.03.06, 12:09 That's what I'm trying to do- contact ebay. But I'm also thinking who should/could I report this outrage to in PL. Odpowiedz Link
usenetposts Re: What can be done about it? 19.03.06, 13:57 Ebay actually cannot do anything about this. Not directly anyway, they would have to complain the same way as we have to. Let me explain how to go about this, let's call this little lesson "Netcopping 101". First, you do a whois on the site. The site is called humorek24.net forget about the bits that come after the three letter designation (TLD). So to do a whois, one easy way I have set up is on my site www.usenetposts.com and then look for the place at the side or the bottom which takes you to a service which checks domain names at Eurodns.com Or if you want to go straight there, just go to tinyurl.com/pp2me Writing "humorek24" into the search box and clicking on the button puts you through to another screen, where all of Europe's endings are listed, and you can see whether humorek24.pl, humorek24.cz etc, are free or taken. Looking at the bottom of that list we see after the Eurid TLDs the generic TLDs such as .org, .com, .net, etc. There near the bottom we see that humorek24.net is taken, and there is a link saying "whois". Clicking on that "whois link" takes us to a dialog box where you must write in a number which you can see a picture of (this is to put paid to robots grabbing massive amounts of information for spamming and other things by the application of clever algorithms) Having passed that test to prove that you are a human being, it then gives you the following info, in this case: I'm just going to quote the whole of the info it gives: ; This data is provided by Az.pl s.j. Albert Jerka, Andrzej Kostrzewa ; for information purposes, and to assist persons obtaining information ; about or related to domain name registration records. ; Az.pl s.j. Albert Jerka, Andrzej Kostrzewa does not guarantee its accuracy. ; By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this data ; only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances, you will ; use this data to ; 1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass ; unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via E-mail ; (spam); or ; 2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply ; to this WHOIS server. ; These terms may be changed without prior notice. ; By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy. DOMAIN: HUMOREK24.NET RSP: Az.pl s.j. Albert Jerka, Andrzej Kostrzewa URL: www.az.pl created-date: 2005-09-12 updated-date: 2005-09-14 registration-expiration-date: 2006-09-12 owner-contact: P-TKB97 owner-fname: Å?ukasz Hrydziuszko owner-lname: Å?ukasz Hrydziuszko owner-street: SÅ‚oneczna owner-city: Å»agaÅ„ owner-zip: 68-100 owner-country: PL owner-phone: +48.696615152 owner-email: hrydziu@o2.pl admin-contact: P-TKB97 admin-fname: Å?ukasz Hrydziuszko admin-lname: Å?ukasz Hrydziuszko admin-street: SÅ‚oneczna admin-city: Å»agaÅ„ admin-zip: 68-100 admin-country: PL admin-phone: +48.696615152 admin-email: hrydziu@o2.pl tech-contact: P-TKB97 tech-fname: Å?ukasz Hrydziuszko tech-lname: Å?ukasz Hrydziuszko tech-street: SÅ‚oneczna tech-city: Å»agaÅ„ tech-zip: 68-100 tech-country: PL tech-phone: +48.696615152 tech-email: hrydziu@o2.pl billing-contact: P-TKB97 billing-fname: Å?ukasz Hrydziuszko billing-lname: Å?ukasz Hrydziuszko billing-street: SÅ‚oneczna billing-city: Å»agaÅ„ billing-zip: 68-100 billing-country: PL billing-phone: +48.696615152 billing-email: hrydziu@o2.pl nameserver: ns3.dns-nameserver.de nameserver: ns5.dns-nameserver.de ; Please register your domains at ; www.az.pl In this case the owner and the admin are the same. You would normally talk to the admin first, then the owner. You would normally send an e-mail to the e- mail address given reporting abuse. In this email, you state the URL of the site and the reasons you consider the content to be illegal or abusive (I think it is obvious, in this case, but I'm giving a Netcopping 101) and you keep the copies of all the correspondence. You stick to the facts, and tell them you want the offensive content removed. If there is no adequate response to this e-mail, it is not considered appropriate to ring him on the numbers given (not at this stage anyway) but I would then take it to NASK and let them deal with talking to the US administrators of the .net generic TLD over it. They will want to see the correspondence you had until that point. If it was over aggressive, or if the owner can say that you harrassed him with phone calls or e-mail threats, then you could fing yourself on the wrong end of the law and your case would be thrown out. Volume of complaints going to any person from separate sources count for more than much raging from one offended person. In this case, you might in the course of even the first letter state that you believe that the content is illegal under Polish law and that if (owing to the fact that sorting out .net related issues may involve going through America) you don't managed to succeed by online means you will simply inform the police in Czeladz. I think that you will actually not find it too hard to get the content removed. Odpowiedz Link
chris-joe Re: What can be done about it? 19.03.06, 16:06 Hey, Dave, you've done quite a bit of my homework. Thanks a lot. Looking into this. ps. Odpowiedz Link
hwyl Re: What can be done about it? 19.03.06, 17:30 Good luck and let us know what's happening with the case. Odpowiedz Link
nasza_maggie Re: What can be done about it? 19.03.06, 23:44 In Poland, you usually report it to the IT Section to the Police. Odpowiedz Link
ianek70 Re: What can be done about it? 20.03.06, 10:28 chris-joe napisał: > Where do you report this? There are all these little books you can buy at kiosks called Humor o Żydach, Szkotach, Czarnych etc, and a few years ago an African student living in Poland tried to prosecute the publishers. He claimed that this was offensive and demeaning, and the prosecutors replied, "Yes? And?" and did nothing. Freedom of speech, Polish style. In PL you can offend anybody who's not a white, Catholic Pole, but if someone in a bar in Chicago tells a Polish joke, or if a Danish TV advert features a plumber with a moustache, then there's a huge outrage here. Basically, if I hear a joke about Scots, I always answer with a joke about Poles, or, depending who I'm forced to offend, a joke that's offensive to Catholics. Although I only actually know 2 Polish jokes, and only one is offensive. Odpowiedz Link
usenetposts Re: What can be done about it? 20.03.06, 12:02 > There are all these little books you can buy at kiosks called Humor o Żydach, > Szkotach, Czarnych etc, and a few years ago an African student living in Poland > > tried to prosecute the publishers. > He claimed that this was offensive and demeaning, and the prosecutors > replied, "Yes? And?" and did nothing. > Freedom of speech, Polish style. In PL you can offend anybody who's not a > white, Catholic Pole, but if someone in a bar in Chicago tells a Polish joke, > or if a Danish TV advert features a plumber with a moustache, then there's a > huge outrage here. > Basically, if I hear a joke about Scots, I always answer with a joke about > Poles, or, depending who I'm forced to offend, a joke that's offensive to > Catholics. > Although I only actually know 2 Polish jokes, and only one is offensive. Do go on, I'm intrigued ... Odpowiedz Link
ianek70 Re: What can be done about it? 20.03.06, 12:38 usenetposts napisał: > > Although I only actually know 2 Polish jokes, and only one is offensive. > > Do go on, I'm intrigued ... No, never. Well, alright, but I assume you already know them, there's the moustache one and the one about the long hard thing. Odpowiedz Link
the_real_kris Hahaha 23.03.06, 17:21 You poor bastards. So I read that polish jokes are ok, but the ones about Jews are not so fine, right? You f... morons and hypocrits. You can say as many jokes about Poles as you wish - I don't give a shit about them or your opinion - even more - when they are good I will laugh. On other hand I must admit I enjoy following your efforts to show how much better, more humane, experienced etc. you are. You are so pathetic when you do it. BTW since you are in Poland you have to adapt and behave like the rest of us here - we have our opinion on what's right and what is not right. Luckily no political correctness in this country, no gay parades or other crap that nobody normal wants to see. You - if you don't like it - you can get the f... out of here to your fantstic Arcadias. Odpowiedz Link
usenetposts Re: Hahaha 23.03.06, 18:12 the_real_kris napisał: > You poor bastards. So I read that polish jokes are ok, but the ones about Jews > are not so fine, right? You f... morons and hypocrits. > Polish people have suffered in the war, but they were not the prime victims of the Shoah. If there were Polish jokes of the kind you do see in some places on the net, no doubt you would thqueam and thqueam until you were thick. I mean "sick" of course. The face value version of what I said you already are. > You can say as many jokes about Poles as you wish - I don't give a shit about > them or your opinion - even more - when they are good I will laugh. > > On other hand I must admit I enjoy following your efforts to show how much > better, more humane, experienced etc. you are. You are so pathetic when you do > it. > Yes yes. I'm sure your mates at Kielce or at Jedwabne didn't look pathetic. I'm sure they looked like the Big Boys. > > BTW since you are in Poland you have to adapt and behave like the rest of us > here No I don't. I do not have to adapt from what I was like in the UK on most critical matters one iota. I just have to make sure I drive on the right hand side of the road, that's all. >- we have our opinion on what's right and what is not right. No you don't. If you put ten Poles in a room you will hear fifteen opinions. That's because a good half of them are not content with talking from the upper end of their alimentary canal and have to include the nether sphincter in their opinion-voicing also. > Luckily no > political correctness in this country, no gay parades or other crap that nobody > normal wants to see. Nobody normal wants to make light of the Holocaust either. If you think they do, then you're not normal and are probably a crypto-queer. > You - if you don't like it - you can get the f... out of > here to your fantstic Arcadias. Make me. Odpowiedz Link
russh Re: Hahaha 24.03.06, 01:14 The Unreal Kris! You are one really stupid person. I have read your posts, and I do not think that there is one worthy of anything apart from ridicule. It would seem to me that you are self-opinionated, ignorant idiot, that thinks that he, or his like are obove the rest of us. The reality is that most of us here are opinionted, but also able to accept both critisism and jokes against ourselves and our countries. I would say to you. If you think that we are pathetic, then come to the next get-together and tell us to our faces, like the man you keep telling us you are. If you are unable to do this, then piss off. Odpowiedz Link
usenetposts Re: Hahaha 24.03.06, 13:34 russh napisał: > The Unreal Kris! > > You are one really stupid person. I have read your posts, and I do not think > that there is one worthy of anything apart from ridicule. > > It would seem to me that you are self-opinionated, ignorant idiot, that thinks > that he, or his like are obove the rest of us. > > The reality is that most of us here are opinionted, but also able to accept bot > h > critisism and jokes against ourselves and our countries. > > I would say to you. If you think that we are pathetic, then come to the next > get-together and tell us to our faces, like the man you keep telling us you are > . > If you are unable to do this, then piss off. Seconded. Odpowiedz Link
ianek70 Przemawia Krzysiek, nowy rzecznik Polaków :-) 24.03.06, 11:16 the_real_kris napisał: > BTW since you are in Poland you have to adapt and behave like the rest of us > here - we have our opinion on what's right and what is not right. We don't have to adapt. I'll live where I want and when I'm there, I'll do what I want. People have different opinions, even in Poland, so which Poles should we behave like - the pompous, bigoted, superstitious, hypocritical arsewipes who're ruining this country and making it an international lauging stock, the snobby, loudmouthed, irritating nowobogaci or the normal people? Odpowiedz Link
nasza_maggie Boys... 24.03.06, 11:35 ianek70 napisał: > the_real_kris napisał: > > > BTW since you are in Poland you have to adapt and behave like the rest of > us > > here - we have our opinion on what's right and what is not right. > > We don't have to adapt. I'll live where I want and when I'm there, I'll do what > > I want. > People have different opinions, even in Poland, so which Poles should we behave > > like - the pompous, bigoted, superstitious, hypocritical arsewipes who're > ruining this country and making it an international lauging stock, the snobby, > loudmouthed, irritating nowobogaci or the normal people? I for one, would appreciate, if you stopped using 'Waldek terminology' to argue with trolls.... Odpowiedz Link