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Is Poland most underestimated country in theWorld?

18.12.06, 08:40
Some may say that; "I desperate for attention, and I'm hungry for
recognition, and generally something's wrong with me", when I bring up this
subject. But why not discuss something that seems so obvious? I don't know
about you but me as Pole, always seem to notice little things such;

1. what there's a lot of noise in the World media about Miss World Finals if
it takes place in China or in Puerto Rico, but when this year MF finals was
in Warsaw, Poland....nothing smile

2. when US President visits Germany, all world media headlines say; "George
Bush is in Germany!" but when he visits Poland; "George Bush is in Eastern
Europe"....smile

3. Poland contributs troops to Iraq, but world media choses not to mention
Poland by name, curiously nameing Holland... which have send half of the
number of troops....Hmm, I wonder what's the deal here smile


I can only imagine what would happen if it wasn't Polish volleyball side that
played in the finals with Brasil... but the football team in the biggest
sport event in the World....I guess CNN, BBC and Deutsche Welle would have to
pretend that their transmitors suddenly went dead smile


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    • ianek70 Re: Is Poland most underestimated country in theW 18.12.06, 10:04
      waldek1610 napisał:

      > Some may say that; "I desperate for attention, and I'm hungry for
      > recognition, and generally something's wrong with me", when I bring up this
      > subject.

      When you brought it up 100 times it did seem that way.

      > But why not discuss something that seems so obvious?

      If it's so obvious, why bother discussing it?
      Poland's completely great and there's a huge international conspiracy to keep
      this fact from the front pages of the world's newspapers.
      End of discussion.
      • waldek1610 you don't believe in special interest groups? 18.12.06, 12:13
        ianek70 napisał:

        > If it's so obvious, why bother discussing it?
        > Poland's completely great and there's a huge international conspiracy to keep
        > this fact from the front pages of the world's newspapers.
        > End of discussion.

        Conspiracies are somethimes real things, and not only in the heads of paranoid
        people smile

        It only takes to look at the Litvinienko murder case, Russian gov said he was
        never a KBG agent, but a simple prison guard, and according to them he killed
        himself.

        But it is easy to prove that he was a KBC agent who infiltrated to the west,
        and such people sometimes become "inconvenient" get killed. But some people
        will do anything to deny the truth. You don't suspect Russia of the fair play,
        why would you think western media is all clean and honest?
    • usenetposts Re: Is Poland most underestimated country in theW 18.12.06, 19:29
      waldek1610 napisał:

      > Some may say that; "I desperate for attention, and I'm hungry for
      > recognition, and generally something's wrong with me", when I bring up this
      > subject. But why not discuss something that seems so obvious? I don't know
      > about you but me as Pole, always seem to notice little things such;
      >
      > 1. what there's a lot of noise in the World media about Miss World Finals if
      > it takes place in China or in Puerto Rico, but when this year MF finals was
      > in Warsaw, Poland....nothing smile
      >
      > 2. when US President visits Germany, all world media headlines say; "George
      > Bush is in Germany!" but when he visits Poland; "George Bush is in Eastern
      > Europe"....smile
      >
      > 3. Poland contributs troops to Iraq, but world media choses not to mention
      > Poland by name, curiously nameing Holland... which have send half of the
      > number of troops....Hmm, I wonder what's the deal here smile
      >
      >
      > I can only imagine what would happen if it wasn't Polish volleyball side that
      > played in the finals with Brasil... but the football team in the biggest
      > sport event in the World....I guess CNN, BBC and Deutsche Welle would have to
      > pretend that their transmitors suddenly went dead smile
      >

      It certainly seems that the only time Poland gets its fair share of coverage is
      when something negative is going on.

      Like the Shoah, for instance. Then it's not "Nazi death camps" it's "Polish
      death camps". I was one who wrote to the Economist over that one and didn't
      even get a bare acknowledgement of my complaint.
      • kylie1 Re: Is Poland most underestimated country in theW 18.12.06, 21:47
        Hi Waldek. Good to see you back! smile)

        Waldek, I oftentimes wondered why a lot of Canadians and Americans don't know
        where Poland/Romania/Hungary/the Chech Republic (etc.)are. I think that if you
        tell them they belong in Eastern Europe, that's probably all they can handle. I
        am sure you must know what they teach in schools here. They know about the "bad"
        Germans and the nasty looking swastikas but if you ask anyone where exactly
        Germany is, they are lost.

        I think it will change with time. So far, Poland with all its beauty and great
        people has been a relatively unknown country on the plains of central Europe.

        smile
          • waldek1610 hello marvelous :) 21.12.06, 06:39
            nasza_maggie napisała:

            > oh well..

            Sure, it doesn't make a difference to Wasza_Maggie because she pretends to be
            British anyways, so why would she care wheater Poland's image in western media
            is positive or not?

            What counts to her is that she's all posh, fantastic gal and she serves the
            Queen smile

        • minimus Re: Is Poland most underestimated country in theW 19.12.06, 00:48
          > Waldek, I oftentimes wondered why a lot of Canadians and Americans don't know
          > where Poland/Romania/Hungary/the Chech Republic (etc.)are. I think that if you
          > tell them they belong in Eastern Europe, that's probably all they can handle.
          I
          > am sure you must know what they teach in schools here. They know about
          the "bad

          Do you think ppl in Poland could name at least some of the states in USA or
          Canada? Why should Americans bother about where Poland is? Does it affect their
          lives in any significant way?
          BTW its Czech not Chech!
        • usenetposts Re: Is Poland most underestimated country in theW 20.12.06, 20:37
          kylie1 napisała:

          > Hi Waldek. Good to see you back! smile)
          >
          > Waldek, I oftentimes wondered why a lot of Canadians and Americans don't know
          > where Poland/Romania/Hungary/the Chech Republic (etc.)are. I think that if you
          > tell them they belong in Eastern Europe, that's probably all they can handle.
          I
          > am sure you must know what they teach in schools here. They know about
          the "bad
          > "
          > Germans and the nasty looking swastikas but if you ask anyone where exactly
          > Germany is, they are lost.
          >
          > I think it will change with time. So far, Poland with all its beauty and great
          > people has been a relatively unknown country on the plains of central Europe.
          >


          I'm reminded of the scene from Bridget Jones where Dan Cleaver asks Bridget to
          name some of the countries Germany has a border with.

          Recently I had a candidate for work and I asked her what borders Austria had.
          She said it didn't have any borders, as it was an island.

          She was also adamant that David Brown wrote the da Vinci Code, and only yielded
          when I did a quick internet search in front of her and saw it was Dan all
          along.

          She didn't get the job.
              • minimus Re: Is Poland most underestimated country in theW 21.12.06, 00:40
                > But she was very attractive, attractive enough to get the grades despite
                being mucho stewpida.

                I dont think being attractive has got anything to do with it. From what I've
                heard at least. Also I met quite a few graduates of such a prestigous
                University as WSE who were not only 'mucho stewpida' but also ugly.

                > But I'm afraid we don't employ on that basis.
                Shame. Next time u think of redecorating your office ring her again.

                BTW, I hope you spoke clearly enough for her to hear that your saying Austria
                not Australia. But even than she would have been wrong as Australia is not an
                island.
                • usenetposts Re: Is Poland most underestimated country in theW 23.12.06, 03:39
                  minimus napisał:

                  > > But she was very attractive, attractive enough to get the grades despite
                  > being mucho stewpida.
                  >
                  > I dont think being attractive has got anything to do with it. From what I've
                  > heard at least. Also I met quite a few graduates of such a prestigous
                  > University as WSE who were not only 'mucho stewpida' but also ugly.
                  >
                  > > But I'm afraid we don't employ on that basis.
                  > Shame. Next time u think of redecorating your office ring her again.
                  >

                  If I feel like sending us all bankrupt, then I'll start suggesting jobs for
                  pretty airheads in our company, and she'll be right up the list.

                  > BTW, I hope you spoke clearly enough for her to hear that your saying Austria
                  > not Australia. But even than she would have been wrong as Australia is not an
                  > island.

                  Well, I said it three times very clearly.
        • waldek1610 Re: Is Poland most underestimated country in theW 21.12.06, 06:31
          kylie1 napisała:

          > Hi Waldek. Good to see you back! smile)

          Thank you, and likewise smile

          > Waldek, I oftentimes wondered why a lot of Canadians and Americans don't know
          > where Poland/Romania/Hungary/the Chech Republic (etc.)are. I think that if you
          > tell them they belong in Eastern Europe, that's probably all they can handle.

          Sure, for many Americans country doesn't exist unless they have drove a car, or
          used some other prominent product made in that country....Or unless they have
          seen it on TV, for example Russia doesn't produce nothing advanced and average
          consumer doesn't care where the oil and other energy suplies come from, but
          every American or Brit have heard of KBC agents, Ivan Drago, and other pop
          culture names.



          > I am sure you must know what they teach in schools here. They know about
          > the "bad" Germans and the nasty looking swastikas but if you ask anyone where
          > exactly Germany is, they are lost.


          Well, that was not a good example, because Germans were in fact bad and
          swasticas was the symbol of the nasty ideology and German regime that have
          killed milion of Poles and others.


          > I think it will change with time. So far, Poland with all its beauty and great
          > people has been a relatively unknown country on the plains of central Europe.
          > smile


          It still sounds like an understatement...as if everything Poland had to offer
          was its natural beuty and its people. Believe me what you just said is somewhat
          biased, because Poland in fact has much more to offer, than just what was
          created by nature smile



          • kylie1 Re: Is Poland most underestimated country in theW 21.12.06, 07:17
            In Canada most folks associate Poland with the Pope. And that's probably all
            they really know about Poland. So if I say I am originally from Poland, they
            would say: "Oh,yeah,I know...there is a Polish Pope". Well, yes, he is dead now,
            you know.

            In any case, what happens on the other side of the pond is never big news here,
            unless it directly affects us in some way. If it's the cars we drive or anything
            else for that matter.

            Of course, there is more to Poland than trees and flowers. There is magnificent
            art, architecture, cultural traditions, Polish cuisine, not to mention the
            wonderful hospitality of its people. I think it remains largely unknown and
            unappreciated because of the long lasting communist regime. Poland is just
            staring to open its doors to the world and - like I said - it will take time.

            smile

      • waldek1610 fenomenon of bias against Poland in the Euro media 21.12.06, 06:18
        usenetposts napisał:

        > It certainly seems that the only time Poland gets its fair share of coverage
        > is when something negative is going on.

        And why is that?.. what's your take on that?
        Well, at least borders are open and many Brits and other Western Europeans come
        to Poland for vacation and even on weekends, so I would rather have them
        positively suprised, and understand that their media is rather unfair and
        biased in portraing Poland.


        > Like the Shoah, for instance. Then it's not "Nazi death camps" it's "Polish
        > death camps". I was one who wrote to the Economist over that one and didn't
        > even get a bare acknowledgement of my complaint.


        I guess your complaint was not helpfull to the special interest groups standing
        behind The Economist.....

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