pa-nika-ra-1 18.01.09, 17:24 I'm a student and I have to conduct ethnological research. I would like to know how Poles treat foreigners living in our country so I search foreigner who want answer my questions Odpowiedz Link Obserwuj wątek Podgląd Opublikuj
shics Re: how do Poles treat foreigners 01.02.09, 02:08 bad English ale nie szkodzi bo oni tu piszom, ze moze byc po polskiemu zapytaj sie jeszcze raz po polsku, moze i po polsku odpowiedzom? Odpowiedz Link
margotje Re: how do Poles treat foreigners 28.03.09, 00:30 shics napisał: > bad English ale nie szkodzi bo oni tu piszom, ze moze byc po polskiemu > zapytaj sie jeszcze raz po polsku, moze i po polsku odpowiedzom? I assume yours is excellent...... what an attitude! Odpowiedz Link
marcus_anglikiem Re: how do Poles treat foreigners 02.09.09, 00:19 margotje napisała: > shics napisał: > > > bad English ale nie szkodzi bo oni tu piszom, ze moze byc po polskiemu > > zapytaj sie jeszcze raz po polsku, moze i po polsku odpowiedzom? > > I assume yours is excellent...... what an attitude! that's funny because "shics's" Polish is bad, never mind his English! Odpowiedz Link
usenetposts Re: how do Poles treat foreigners 16.02.09, 00:00 It depends what foreigners you mean and what their status is. A blanket query like that is meaningless. As a British person, I have no trouble: at even the slightest hint of xenophobia, I merely have to remind the other side that there are 100 times more Poles in England than Englishmen in Poland, and that we were the first to play fair and welcome you (along with Ireland and Sweden) and they nod and friendly up. Although I might get the usual nonsense about Churchill. I expect that if I were a labourer from some third world country, and of another race, I might get a slightly less easy time of it. One thing I think we can safely say is that Polish people's image of themselves as being highly hospitable to foreigners is not borne out in reality in Warsaw, although hospitality increases in other areas - not so much Poznan and Krakow either, but certainly in rural Poland, Silesia and East Poland. I remember at the start when I got here mocking the way the English or Americans would invite people to go out but everyone would split the bill (actually I don't like that either) but when it comes to it the birthday invites to go out anyway are not as common as I thought they would be when listening to the Poles boast at how when they invite the person who invites pays. It simply means they cannot afford to invite, and so they don't, whereas they might be able to afford to socialise the Anglo-American way. Odpowiedz Link
amcapol Re: how do Poles treat foreigners 29.03.09, 05:52 Usenetpost...I found your response very interesting and I do agree with you 100% . I'm Polish living in USA for last 20+ years. I've problem communicating with my countrymen. I can't say anything good about USA..All what is acceptable with my friends from the past is to listen and politely agree. Well, I go to my motherland only b/c of family and my old mom. Interestingly enough I love Brits, I felt better in London then in Warsaw. Odpowiedz Link
usenetposts Re: how do Poles treat foreigners 30.03.09, 00:05 Interesting. I do think that the British are more easy-going and hospitable than people often make us out to be. Where are you living now, then? Odpowiedz Link
ciotka-ltd Re: how do Poles treat foreigners 17.08.10, 21:10 You're awfully easy-going, even too much. I live currently in the Midlands and I'm surprised how easy-going and even slow-going you, the Brits, are. Including local buses Odpowiedz Link
jeanie_mccake Re: how do Poles treat foreigners 02.09.09, 23:20 But to be fair the lack of hospitality in Warsaw doesn't just apply to foreigners. It’s a city with a troubled past, and hopefully it’ll have a troubled future too, because it’s inhabited almost solely by obnoxious pompous twats who feel smug because the provincial shitehole they live in is so much bigger and more expensive than other provincial shiteholes in the area. Krakow's slightly better, so if they're fed up with the working class tourists that their kulturalne city attracts with its cheap beer, castle and whatever the other thing is that folk go to Krakow for, their tourist board could use the slogan "Come to Krakow - We're Marginally Less Arrogant, Rude and Pretentious than Warsaw". The hospitality in rural areas is pretty much the same as the hospitality of grinning in-bred hillbilly cannibals in horror films, for obvious reasons, and as far as I know they eat (sorry, treat) Polish townies in the same way. I once spent a miserable couple of hours in a village called Proszowice, surrounded by foul-smelling, welly-wearing zombies who all had exactly the same ears and stared at anyone who wasn’t covered in mud or didn’t have a chicken under their arm, but fortunately I had a shiny key-ring with me which scared them away. It’s better in the mountains, where folk are generally friendly, both in tourist-infested places and in the zadupie. The rest of Poland is fairly normal. Odpowiedz Link
marcus_anglikiem re: how do Poles treat foreigners 03.09.09, 22:06 so Poland is OK apart from Warsaw, Kraków and the countryside? Exactly what is the extent of your experiences of the above-mentioned places? Where are you from by the way? Odpowiedz Link
jeanie_mccake Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 04.09.09, 00:42 The question was about Poles, not Poland, and I'm not denying that Krakow is well worth spending a day or two in, and I'm not blaming the locals for being miserable and pretentious. It's a tourist trap, so they're sick of tourists, and historically it's the cultural capital of Poland, so there's always the temptation to be arrogant and boring. It's a nice place to go for a stroll once or twice a year with friends. It says a lot that they keep writing to their local paper complaining that foreign devils pee in the street, but rarely moan about having to finance cops who don't stop foreign devils peeing in the street. Warsaw has all the disadvantages of a major European capital and all the disadvantages of your average provincial Polish town, but none of the advantages of either and all the complexes of both. Londoners and Parisians don't have to ask if you've been there, folk from Edinburgh or Copenhagen pretend to be pleasantly surprised if you know their home town, but in Warsaw they get offended if you haven't memorised how many times their grandparents were victims of This and/or That. The only good thing about living in the countryside is that you've got stuff that civilised folk haven't got - mountains, fjords, tigers, slightly bigger castles, a better choice of priests to be molested by, amazing cheese, whatever. In practice, the Polish countryside is mud and chickens. Flat boring landscapes, no bookshops, ugly pensioners who think anyone that's not related to them is a Jew. Since you ask, I'm from Greenock (a provincial shitehole on the edge of the known universe) and Glasgow (a normal city where your average Warsaw or Krakow punter can't last 2 weeks without writing a blog about how scary the real world is). Odpowiedz Link
kitty.s Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 13.04.10, 17:35 please go back to real world in Glasgow and never ever leave again. Like most ppl in Glasgow. Youre an amazing douche. Odpowiedz Link
jeanie_mccake Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 17.04.10, 14:37 Your insight and wit have completely changed my mind - the Polish countryside is clearly full of sophisticated types who are too busy driving mercedes and eating sushi to shag their cousins, and Warsaw is so great that in my many years of living in Poland I've probably heard someone somewhere saying "ale tak naprawdę Warszawa jest nawet OK" but I just somehow don't remember it... And don't dis the real world, you might have some contact with it one day. Odpowiedz Link
kitty.s Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 23.04.10, 22:02 Glasgow?! Youre calling glasgow "the real world"?! Buahahahaha I didn`t know that sophistication and level of cultural development should be measured in amount of mercedeses per countryside (obviously every farmer in UK drives M-Benz and eats tempura for tea). Jeanie, please, go back to Glasgow already, before your self - esteem will dissapear completely, and leave Warsaw to civilised foreginers with no self imprtance issues because they grew up in the counttry (as You lovely Yourself call Your hometown - "asshole of the world or something like that? ). Kudos from Warsaw - Sydney - Singapore (but of course dreaming about the real world and "Paris of 21st century" - Glasgow, im so bored by these shitholes Get a life Kudos from Odpowiedz Link
askazbielan Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 30.04.10, 22:22 Warszawa, Krakow - let's try so called Poland No. "B" Olsztyn, Torun, Gdansk - that's the real Poland. Ordinary nice people and slow cities as well. I would recommend Poland No. B than noisy, dirty, expensive Warsaw. Cheers, Jo. Odpowiedz Link
kitty.s Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 01.05.10, 20:01 Warsaw really aint that bad, you must`ave real bad luck to meet such a bunch of a..holes. but i do agree with you - one of my grandmas was from lublin and i always liked this city, besides, in highschool, my dad travelled with me through whole Poland mountains, mazury, sea side - we did it all - and since we knew english we were always very nice and helpful to all foreginers. on the other side we didnt meet any foreginers who would think that our country is a nest of pedophilia and all people are dirt! cheers Odpowiedz Link
centaur10 Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 11.05.10, 06:15 Your Lublin provenance explains much of your anti-Polish attitude. I know what nationality you are, but it is illegal to mention that nationality in Poland. That explains your hate. Odpowiedz Link
jeanie_mccake Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 16.05.10, 16:24 usenetposts napisał: > Not ... Atlantean? You'd better hope it's not... after all it's illegal to mention them. Odpowiedz Link
sopel1000 Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 01.07.10, 15:10 Wow. Generally I would summarize this strange discussion using one abbreviation: WTF?! I could agree with these opinions about Warsaw and Krakow (or - their citizens) but to some extent. I was born in Poznań and I've been living here since then, and I am a local partiot. I speak english, german and a bit of spanish and it has always been a pleasure to help foreigners. I do not know exactly why but there is something in jeanie_mccake's responses which makes me feel offended as a Pole, but it also makes me feel good not to live in Warsaw. Do not forget - Poznań also used to be the capital city of Poland. Proper name of our city is "Poznań The Capital City". Regards, Jakub Odpowiedz Link
centaur10 Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 11.05.10, 06:09 That way you enhance the picture of xenophobic Polish people. Danzig, Thorn or Allenstein are by no means provincial. Never confuse poverty with meanness, Poland has been robbed of its goods for the last twenty years with keeping the appearances of free trade and prosperity. Odpowiedz Link
centaur10 Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 11.05.10, 06:01 You are a false fox fur, aren't you? Odpowiedz Link
ciotka-ltd Glasgow - British capitol of crime 17.08.10, 21:15 I didn't create it myself, I found this title in The Sunday Times Odpowiedz Link
centaur10 Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 11.05.10, 05:59 You don't look like a foreigner, anyway. You are a girl from Warsaw who depreciates Kraków, that's all. Nevertheless, your English is pretty good. Odpowiedz Link
centaur10 Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 11.05.10, 05:55 Your Glaswegian provenance explains your xenophobia. You are provincial and intellectually biased. Odpowiedz Link
jeanie_mccake Re: re: how do Poles treat foreigners 16.05.10, 16:17 centaur10 napisał: > Your Glaswegian provenance explains your xenophobia. You are provincial and > intellectually biased. What xenophobia? I've heard a few stereotypes about Glaswegians, but "intellectually biased" is an interesting one. I must make a note of it and mention it to my Glaswegian friends, I'm sure they'll laugh as hard as I did. Odpowiedz Link
centaur10 Re: how do Poles treat foreigners 11.05.10, 05:45 First of all, Proszowice is not a village, but the head town for the poviat (administrative unit smaller than the voivodeship). People in Poland are very sensitive and easily guess who treats them like shit, you being a pretentious bloody foreigner were the most likely to be an easily recognized anti-Polish jingoist. Polish girls shave their armpits, so your idiocy is still more offensive. We have the same deodorants and of soap as you have, people start their day with a shower and they have no lice, which is frequently the case with the British. There is one thing that definitely keeps driving you mad, we have practically no ethnic or religious minorities, especially in rural areas or in smaller towns. The drunk zombies you mentioned are not numerous and they behave like lords in comparison to British working class tourists who puke and piss in Krakow Market Square. There are crappy districts in each town or city, but for you they are the ONLY ones. It,s hardly possible to find as crappy and depressing an area as the bus station in Manchester, where British Brits ask you for a couple of pence. Your zombies are more smelly and dirtier than ours, our zombies are at least WHITE. Odpowiedz Link
jeanie_mccake Re: how do Poles treat foreigners 16.05.10, 16:12 centaur10 napisał: > First of all, Proszowice is not a village, but the head town for the poviat It's got a population of a few thousand, so it's not a town. > People in Poland are very > sensitive All of them? anti-Polish > jingoist. Polish girls shave their armpits, so your idiocy is still more > offensive. I'm not anti-Polish, I'm not a jingoist, I'm not an idiot and I've never denied that Polish girls shave their armpits. There is one thing that definitely keeps driving you mad, we have > practically no ethnic or religious minorities, especially in rural areas or in > smaller towns. Who does that drive mad, and why? The drunk zombies you mentioned are not numerous and they behave > like lords in comparison to British working class tourists who puke and piss in > Krakow Market Square. They are numerous. Does it not bother you that middle class tourists puke and piss in the Rynek too? Or are you a snob as well as a pretentious racist? There are crappy districts in each town or city, but for > you they are the ONLY ones. No they're not, otherwise I wouldn't live in Poland, would I? Why don't you think about what you're writing? It,s hardly possible to find as crappy and > depressing an area as the bus station in Manchester, I've never seen it, but I bet I know far crappier and more depressing areas in Britain. Your zombies are more smelly and dirtier than ours, our > zombies are at least WHITE. A zombie is a zombie. Odpowiedz Link
wybitniemadry kompromitujesz sie angielskim dziewojo 24.04.10, 06:20 a jak ty traktujesz obcokrajowcow? jestes niedorozwinieta czy szukasz meza? Odpowiedz Link
kitty.s Re: kompromitujesz sie angielskim dziewojo 01.05.10, 19:51 whoa! her english is 100% better than yours as you don`t speak english at all nyah nyah)))))))))))))))))) Odpowiedz Link
miniatur Re: kompromitujesz sie angielskim dziewojo 05.05.10, 13:34 Is there a chance of getting back to pa-nika-ra-1 's original point ? Though I guess he/she must be a bit cheesed off having waited since 18.1.09 for helpful comments. Though some have been useful. I guess that pa-nika-ra-1 's absence from the “discussion” speaks volumes. Talk about highjacking a subject. Cheers Odpowiedz Link
usenetposts Re: kompromitujesz sie angielskim dziewojo 08.05.10, 17:10 @miniatur, I should say that you get quite a lot of folk who ask questions and then don't hang around for an answer. I has quickly asked this person to be more precise, and since that person didn't respond further, I should say that the rest of us are free to make of this topic what they like. Odpowiedz Link
centaur10 Re: kompromitujesz sie angielskim dziewojo 11.05.10, 06:12 Your "nyah" is the most moving question tag I've ever read or heard. By the way, 'English', not 'english'. Odpowiedz Link
msands Re: kompromitujesz sie angielskim dziewojo 18.05.10, 06:59 what's so special about 'nyah'? haven't you heard it before? haven't you seen 'south park', heard voice of the prophet cartman? and it is 'english' if we damn please... nananananana... english! eeeennnglliishh Odpowiedz Link
ciotka-ltd I'm afraid she's a very poor anthropologist 17.08.10, 21:05 This is the real problem, apart from her 'continental' English. She's lucky I'm not her university teacher Odpowiedz Link