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      Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY

    IP: 217.11.133.* 27.11.02, 12:29
    Następna kolejka da nam odpowiedź.....i chyba Dudek pójdzie śladami Matyska a
    potem Hajty....
      • Gość: TOcoMYśLE Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: *.katowice.msk.pl 27.11.02, 12:58
        PODZIELAM........NIECH DUDEK SOBIE ODPOCZNIE.........NA MOJE MYSLENIE NIE MA
        WPLYWU JEGO OSTATNIA NIEDYSPOZYCJA......ZAWSZE BYL SREDI, TYLKO MEDIA I LUDZIE
        NIE ZNAJACY SIE NA SPRAWIE.......WIERZYLI ZE JEST KIMS MEGA!!!NIE BYL I NIE
        BEDZIE!MITOW U NAS DOSTATEK I CIESZE SIE ZE CHOCIAZ JEDEN POWOLI SIE NIE
        SPRAWDZA:)))!!!
        • Gość: aimarek Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: *.toya.net.pl / *.toya.net.pl 27.11.02, 13:02
          Gość portalu: TOcoMYśLE napisał:

          > PODZIELAM........NIECH DUDEK SOBIE ODPOCZNIE.........NA MOJE MYSLENIE NIE MA
          > WPLYWU JEGO OSTATNIA NIEDYSPOZYCJA......ZAWSZE BYL SREDI, TYLKO MEDIA I
          LUDZIE
          > NIE ZNAJACY SIE NA SPRAWIE.......WIERZYLI ZE JEST KIMS MEGA!!!NIE BYL I NIE
          > BEDZIE!MITOW U NAS DOSTATEK I CIESZE SIE ZE CHOCIAZ JEDEN POWOLI SIE NIE
          > SPRAWDZA:)))!!!

          Masz rację. Tacy ludzie jak Houllier czy Beenhakker (czy jak to się pisze) to
          zupełni ignoranci. Nie to co Ty. Mistrzu, ucz mnie !!!
          • Gość: Crotalus Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: proxy / 213.17.170.* 27.11.02, 13:08
            Gość portalu: aimarek napisał:

            > Gość portalu: TOcoMYśLE napisał:
            >
            > > PODZIELAM........NIECH DUDEK SOBIE ODPOCZNIE.........NA MOJE MYSLENIE NIE
            > MA
            > > WPLYWU JEGO OSTATNIA NIEDYSPOZYCJA......ZAWSZE BYL SREDI, TYLKO MEDIA I
            > LUDZIE
            > > NIE ZNAJACY SIE NA SPRAWIE.......WIERZYLI ZE JEST KIMS MEGA!!!NIE BYL I NI
            > E
            > > BEDZIE!MITOW U NAS DOSTATEK I CIESZE SIE ZE CHOCIAZ JEDEN POWOLI SIE NIE
            > > SPRAWDZA:)))!!!
            >
            > Masz rację. Tacy ludzie jak Houllier czy Beenhakker (czy jak to się pisze) to
            > zupełni ignoranci. Nie to co Ty. Mistrzu, ucz mnie !!!



            To koleś z katowic, któremu wydaje się że jest Niemcem (post poniżej o tym jak
            to Schalke w... Wiśle)
        • Gość: mario Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: 5.1R2D* / 194.7.114.* 27.11.02, 13:16
          i kto bedzie wtedy bronil? tkocz buahahaha
          od san marino chyba dyche dostaniemy
          • Gość: GŚ Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: *.dhcp.adsl.tpnet.pl 27.11.02, 14:21
            Gość portalu: mario napisał:

            > i kto bedzie wtedy bronil? tkocz buahahaha
            > od san marino chyba dyche dostaniemy

            Odpie...l się od Tkocza, ciuliku !!!
            • kubag Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY 27.11.02, 15:32
              Gość portalu: GŚ napisał:

              > Odpie...l się od Tkocza, ciuliku !!!
              Tkocz, to ten spec od wybijania dosrodkowan przed siebie???
          • Gość: DD Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: 217.11.133.* 28.11.02, 08:49
            Całe szczęście że dudek nie bronił z San Marino bo wtedy na pewno byśmy
            dostali! Ale "gwiazdeczka dudkowa" nie będzie grała ze słabeuszami! Bo by
            wpuścił i dopiero byłoby śmiechu HAHAHAHA Na pewno by wpuścił chociażby tak jak
            z Łotwą....mańkut jeden. KIRKLAND POKAZ KLASĘ
        • pmroz Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY 27.11.02, 14:54
          Gość portalu: TOcoMYśLE napisał:

          > PODZIELAM........NIECH DUDEK SOBIE ODPOCZNIE.........NA MOJE MYSLENIE NIE MA
          > WPLYWU JEGO OSTATNIA NIEDYSPOZYCJA......ZAWSZE BYL SREDI, TYLKO MEDIA I
          LUDZIE
          > NIE ZNAJACY SIE NA SPRAWIE.......WIERZYLI ZE JEST KIMS MEGA!!!NIE BYL I NIE
          > BEDZIE!MITOW U NAS DOSTATEK I CIESZE SIE ZE CHOCIAZ JEDEN POWOLI SIE NIE
          > SPRAWDZA:)))!!!
          Człowieku nie masz pojęcia i piłce nożnej-więc nie pleć bzdetów palancie. Po
          prostu i Dudek i Hajto to zbyt dobrzy zawodnicy na naszą kadrę nie oszukuj się -
          mają rację, że zrezygnowali. Bo takie granie meczów z kadrą to porażka i
          strata czasu i jeszcze ten trener nie trener, grał swietnie ale o prowadzenie
          teamu nie ma pojęcia. hey
      • Gość: m04 Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: proxy / *.lublin.mm.pl 27.11.02, 14:56
        Why Houllier should stick by Dudek

        CHRIS Kirkland is the unluckiest goalkeeper in the Premiership.

        Only one stopper in the league is better and he just happens to be at the same
        club. That hasn't stopped the deputy's fanbase increasing on a weekly basis.
        Kirkland will discover more allies backing his cause and although he'll welcome
        the praise - which is fully deserved - the motives of some of his most vocal
        benefactors aren't as honourable as you'd imagine.

        With all due respect to Kirkland, few Liverpool supporters really believe Jerzy
        Dudek deserves to be dropped after the defeat to Fulham. The Pole should stay
        in goal.

        Deep down, Kirkland will feel the same. When he establishes himself as
        Anfield's number one in the future, which he will, he'll be entitled to think
        he's allowed two mistakes every 18 months, which is all Dudek has been guilty
        of. But the glee with which certain sections of this country welcomed the
        Pole's errors can be easily explained.

        Dudek has enemies because he isn't English. He is not a contender to replace
        David Seaman. He is therefore surplus to requirements in the eyes of those who
        care far more about the national team than they do Liverpool.

        Liverpool's wellbeing isn't on the agenda for the most passionate Kirkland
        fans. England's is. Do we really believe anyone would care so much about
        Dudek's form if an English deputy wasn't waiting in the wings? We know what to
        expect over the next few weeks. Poor Jerzy will be in the firing line with
        every detail of his game dissected.

        His performances have earned him a halo in the eyes of Kopites. But when the
        halo slips, it's only a few inches away from being a noose and that's where the
        Dude's enemies intentions lie. Every mishandled cross, wayward kick or goal
        against him will be used to tighten the rope around his neck. His impeccable
        form since arriving from Feyenoord will fade into the distance, an irrelevance
        to those who want a new England number one and see Seaman's rivals for the job
        as the charlatansthey are.

        An unofficial 'Kirkland in' campaign is well underway, and it's not
        originating at Anfield. One hopes Gerard Houllier stands firm and ignores the
        hype because replacing Dudek now will follow England's agenda, not Liverpool's.

        Kirkland has time on his side. He is a monstrous talent and will soon by
        Liverpool's and England's number one. But that time hasn't come yet.
        • Gość: yeti Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: *.krakow.sdi.tpnet.pl 27.11.02, 15:10
          Należałoby to teraz przetłumaczyć temu geniuszowi DD. Zwłaszcza zwrot "two
          mistakes allowed 18 months". pzdr.
          • Gość: m04 Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: proxy / *.lublin.mm.pl 27.11.02, 15:52
            i jeszcze jeden:

            Football is a funny business isn't it? One minute you're the best thing since
            sliced bread and the next you're no longer the best since Clem.


            I am, of course, referring to the recent form of Jerzy Dudek. It's hardly been
            Calamity James material but mistakes against Middlesbrough and Fulham, and to a
            lesser extent in Basel, have proved costly. There's no escaping that.

            But is it really time to drop a goalkeeper that's helped us through many a
            tight squeeze. Who'll forget his magnificent saves against Chelsea at Anfield
            last year, his penalty save at Derby. I could drone on for hours and hours
            about stunning saves, yet his mistakes can be counted on just the one hand.
            It'd be extremely fickle to drop, or rest as Houllier might claim, Dudek after
            just three mistakes.

            Most of us witnessed Dudek's suspect form in the World Cup for Poland, and that
            leads me to the conclusion that Dudek's form really does depend on the quality
            and understanding of the players in front of him. When Dudek has played behind
            a settled backline he's seldom made a mistake that I can recall. The Polish
            offence was absolute abysmal in that tournament, and Jerzy took an absolute
            battering in the Polish media after one or two suspect performances.

            This season he's had to cope with a shaky defence at the start of the campaign
            as Houllier looked to find a happy medium between defence and attack, and more
            recently a back line shuffled more often than a deck of playing cards on the
            Las Vegas strip. We've had Stephane Henchoz's injury, the return of Babbel, the
            introduction of Traore, the moving of Carragher between left and rigt back, and
            Riise's changing from left back to left midfield on a gamely basis. In short
            we've not had anything like a settled back line and Dudek is the man in the
            firing line. When he's allowed to concentrate solely on his game and not the
            players in front of him then there's no better player in his position in the
            world.

            Frustrating as it is to have two of THE best goalkeepers in the land after our
            problems in that position of the last decade, I'm sure it's a problem that
            manager's would invariably like to have. As the saying goes, goalkeepers are
            like Buses. You wait all day for one to turn up and then two come along at once.

            I don't expect Chris Kirkland to start in Holland, especially since Liverpool
            will go there without a first choice back four. As big a revelation as Djimi
            Traore has been he's not of the standard Stephane Henchoz sets. Although
            Kirkland performed admirably in the Ali Sami Yen stadium against Galatasaray
            last year I just don't envisage Gerard Houllier opting for an inexperienced
            goalkeeper in a hugely important UEFA Cup match. After the comic performance of
            the back four in Basel will Houllier actually want to take experience out of
            the side?

            On the other side of the coin Chris Kirkland must believe he has a chance of
            claiming the number one jersey at Anfield if he's to remain happy. It was
            unorthodox to say the least to see two goalkeepers arrive at Anfield on the
            same day. And so it must be extremely difficult for a quality goalkeeper such
            as Kirkland, who by the signs of it is more talented than any other English
            goalkeeper at this point in time, to be playing in the Reserves knowing that
            he's got no chance of breaking into the first eleven. I don't have the details
            to hand, but I'm sure Dudek's contract runs to around 2007, by which time
            Kirkland will have lost out on a significant portion of what could be an
            absolutely fantastic career.

            The point I'm making is that if Kirkland we're to be ignored during Dudek's
            difficult time it could send out a message that no matter how hard the lad
            tries he'll not get his chance. Up until know Gerard has played things right.
            Kirkland's chances in the Worthington Cup we're sadly cut short when a thirty
            yard screamer from one Phil Jevons bulged the net last season, but the signs
            are that he'll get a decent cup run this time around. If Liverpool were to
            adopt the same approach as Arsenal last year and play Kirkland in the FA Cup as
            they did with Richard Wright, as well as in the Worthy Cup, then I'm sure Chris
            will be only too happy to bide his time. Dudek wouldn't be happy with that
            scenario in reverse.

            Whether or not Dudek is ousted out as the first team goalkeeper has greater
            consequences though. I'm sure Liverpool's Board of Directors would be less than
            happy to see a player that had recently signed a new, big money contract
            warming the bench. That'll hardly satisfy the moneymen upstairs that recently
            sanctioned the bumper pay offer, which by the way has been greatly exaggerated
            by the media according to the player himself.

            And so as I say I hope, and expect, Dudek to continue in the Liverpool goal
            against Vitesse. He's earnt the right to loyalty this past year, don't you
            think?


            a tlumaczyc nie bede bo on i z polskim pewnie ma klopoty
            • Gość: DD Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: 217.11.133.* 28.11.02, 08:54
              Nie tłumacz. Bo skończyłbyś tłumaczyć jak twój idol za którego pewnie byś dał
              się zabić miałby z 60 lat
          • Gość: DD Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: 217.11.133.* 28.11.02, 08:52
            Dziękuję bardzo mistrzu ! Teraz już wiem czemu masz taką ksywkę! Oni nie
            istnieją
        • Gość: DD Re: Może Dudek pójdzie śladem Hajty? OBY IP: 217.11.133.* 28.11.02, 08:51
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