Odzywianie przy endo - wywiad bardzo ciekawy

12.05.06, 16:11
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www.endometriosis.org/nutrition.html

Dietary modification to alleviate endometriosis symptoms
interview between nutritionist Dian Shepperson Mills Cert Ed BA DipION and Dr
Mark Perloe MD

Mark Perloe: “I’m Mark Perloe and I’m here with the American Society of
Reproductive Medicine meeting in Seattle, Washington and I'm with Dian Mills
who recently updated her book on nutrition. We talked earlier about how
nutrition plays a role in fertility but I understand that the book is a bit
more comprehensive. Can you first of all tell us the title of the book and
when the new edition will be out?”

Dian Mills: “Yes, the new edition was out in America on the 1st of August
2002. Mike and I have rewritten three new chapters in the book, one on the
ovary, one on the nervous system because when I was in Helsinki the Danish
and Swedish groups were saying, ‘Why are we so depressed all the time?” so
I’ve explained a little bit about that. Then I put another in on food and
what to eat and how to prepare shopping lists, more about these and
everything else like that.”

Mark Perloe: “One of the theories about endometriosis that I was so
interested in is, women who had endometriosis. It may actually not be the
endometrial implant that is to blame. There are women who have bladder
systems, interstitial cystitis and have bowel related symptoms and
fibromyalgia. There is a lot of thinking that perhaps this is a disorder of
para-sympathetic nerve connection or pelvic neuropathy. What role would
nutrition play in dealing with pelvic pain aside from the actual presence of
a lesion?”

Dian Mills: “Well, this is a good question because I always suspect that a
lot of the pain which we get with endometriosis, I don’t know that it’s
necessarily caused by the endometriosis itself. I think there are a lot of
immune products in the peritoneal fluid, which are increasing inflammation,
which are causing the bowel and bladder to go into spasms. Also you can look
at digestion because if a person is not absorbing the nutrients correctly,
due to whatever reason, that could also lead to more higher levels of pain
perception in the body because they are not taking in the nutrients that
would help dampen down the pain pathways.”

Mark Perloe: “What nutrients specifically might be involved?”

Dian Mills: “Ah, now this is interesting because there are lots of research
papers on pain and nutrients. Vitamin C is an antihistamine so it can dampen
histamine release. Vitamin E can help with pain because that will also help
with histamine release and it also works as an antioxidant that can stop cell
damage at the membrane if you’ve got free radical damage damaging the cell
membrane, which could be weakening the cell membrane so that the
endometriosis can attach. And the B vitamins, especially B1, B6 and B12 when
taken in combination, work as well as any analgesic when they are in the
right level in the body.

Essential fatty acids, like omega-6 fatty acids from linseed oil and fish
omega 3, evening primrose oil, borage oil, star flower oil front the six.
What I find very interesting is that when people are eating a lot of
processed foods they are taking in trans-fatty acids. That’s fats that have
been hydrogenated and they’ve been changed in their shapes so they don’t lock
into cells in the same way. Fats that are natural, the cis fatty acids have a
horseshoe shape and lock into cell membranes and give them integrity. Whereas
the trans fatty acids form just a kink shape and the cell membrane loses its
integrity, Oils and magnesium are important at the cell membrane as they are
seen from research to stop cancers attaching. So if you can change the
balance to improve good cis oils and remove the bad trans oils from the diet
it may be giving the cells more integrity. Also, if we think about this
logically, all the hormones, so if you are using the correct oils and they’re
being metabolized into prostaglandins series one and three, which are anti-
inflammatory and you reduce the oils in dairy and meat which are pro-
inflammatory, series two prostaglandins, you can possibly, or we see this
happening, reduce pain levels.

The other interesting thing that I found is that there has to be some
mechanism with wheat with endometriosis. Wheat has been genetically modified
and there are two hormones out of two, the genome. There is also problems
with gluten sensitivity, and more people are becoming gluten sensitive and I
find that when I’ve taken wheat out of the diet, in 80% of the women with
endometriosis, their pain subsides.”

Mark Perloe: “Fascinating.”

Dian Mills: “And when they reintroduce the wheat the pain comes back.”

Mark Perloe: “Is this all wheat flours? I mean are they, buckwheat, which is
a protein, or whole wheat do you have it as much as the processed wheat?”

Dian Mills: “Whole wheat, all wheat is a problem. Anything with wheat flour,
like pastry cakes, pizza, pasta. Buckwheat isn’t wheat; that’s rhubarb
family. That’s the same plant as rhubarb, so buckwheat isn’t wheat. That
works in a different way. But there’s something different. I think there may
be the hormones in the wheat or the phytic acid is locking up some of the
minerals but certainly there seems to be some modality with wheat and
endometriosis. It’s almost as though something within wheat is exacerbating
the implant."

Mark Perloe: “Some of us are going to get on a wheat-free diet. Would you
just say try this for a period of time and see if it works?”

Dian Mills: “Yes, I would say try it for two months. Don’t have anything with
wheat in, modified starch, malto-dextrins, dextrins, rusk, you know anything
like that, avoid. Rye, Ryvita, rye breads, rice cakes, rice, rice noodles,
corn pasta and corn and rice pasta. Anything made with lentils, like
popadoms; what else is there, minute buckwheat would be all right. You
replace the wheat with other foods so that you are not lacking in any in any
nutrients. Do that for 28-30 days alongside taking multi-vitamins and evening
primrose and fish oil. Magnesium is helpful because that relaxes muscles in
the uterus and the bowel. And also you may need to take a digestive enzyme
and an acidophilus if you have digestion problems. And if you do that for a
month and then challenge yourself with one slice of bread and see what
symptoms recur over the next 24 hours. That’s quite a good way of looking at
if you’ve got a food intolerance. You can do it with dairy foods as well. You
will then know whether it is creating more pain and bloating, certainly
abdominal boating can be reduced.”

Mark Perloe: “Well, I think that’s wonderful. How would people learn more
about the book if they wanted to order it online do you have a website where
they can get more information?”

Dian Mills: “You can get it www.endometriosis.co.uk or www.makingbabies.com
and also, I believe www.amazon.com has it. Barnes & Noble have this as well."

Mark Perloe: “Give us the name of the book.”

Dian Mills: “Endometriosis: A Key to Healing and Fertility Through Nutrition,
by Dian Shepperson Mills and Mike Vernon and the publisher is Thorsens Harper
Collins.”

Mark Perloe: “Thank you so much, Dian.”

Dian Mills: “Thank you very much.”

    • olka981 Re: Odzywianie przy endo - wywiad bardzo ciekawy 13.05.06, 02:22
      czasami sie zastanawiam czy wogole cos nam wolno jesc !!! ale ja osobiscie
      omijam make i staram sie zdrowo odzywiac i wazne tez zeby wspomagac watrobe
      zeby sie oczyszczala z niepotrzebnych hormonow
      • duda102 Re: Odzywianie przy endo - wywiad bardzo ciekawy 16.05.06, 09:57
        a uzywasz jakies ziola?? bo sama nie wiem.....jesli tak to czy widzisz poprawe?

        dzieki
    • ka2323 Re: Ożywianie przy endo - dieta 15.02.07, 20:52
      podbijam, dla odświeżenia

    • livana Re: Odzywianie przy endo - wywiad bardzo ciekawy 24.02.07, 00:18
      Przeczytałam wywiad z ogromnym zainteresowaniem. Zaszokowała mnie zgodność
      pewnych faktów. Od kilku lat zaczęłam mieć uciążliwe dolegliwości pokarmowe
      (zatwardzenia, wzdęcia, bóle brzucha, krew w stolcu i tycie). Trzy lata temu
      zupełnie przypadkowa osoba poradziła mi, żebym wyeliminowała trzy elementy ze
      swojej diety: mąkę, makaron i ziemniaki. Żebym jadła dużo warzyw, nabiału i
      mięso. Z ziaren mogłam jeść ryż i kaszę gryczaną oraz soję. Jak się później
      dowiedziałam, jest to dieta bezglutenowa. W przeciągu kilku miesięcy schudłam 5
      kilo, a dolegliwości pokarmowe ustąpiły praktycznie natychmiast od rozpoczęcia
      diety. I tak jest do teraz.

      Od ponad roku staramy się z mężem o dziecko, a pół roku temu dowiedziałam się,
      ze mam endometriozę, którą podczas laparoskopii skoagulowano mi na pęcherzu
      moczowym.

      To jest niesamowite! Nigdy bym nie przypuszczała, ze te dwie sprawy mogą mieć ze
      sobą jakikolwiek związek.

      Jedyne co (jak zrozumiałam) autorka jeszcze nie wie, a co mnie bardzo
      interesuje, to jaki to jest konkretnie związek. Jak na razie wiadomo, że przy
      endometriozie ustępuje ból podczas diety bezglutenowej. Ale czy to ma znaczenie
      przy leczeniu?
    • olka981 Re: Odzywianie przy endo - wywiad bardzo ciekawy 24.02.07, 01:00
      ponoc powiazanie jest takie ze makarony itd sa chemicznie wybielane itd i
      powoduja zaburzenia hormonalne i zbieraja niepotrzebne hormony we watrobie z
      tad pozniej robia sie problemy z zolondkiem i jelitach ale wiem ze mieso tez
      nie jest wskazane bo tez ma hormony
      do dudy tak biore ziola miedzy innymi ziola ktore wchodza w agufem
      i dodam ze paeonia (piwonia chyba po pOlsku ) jest korzystna dla poprawnej
      pracy jajnikow (jak ktos mysli o dziecku)
      pozdrawiam
      • wika76 Re: Odzywianie przy endo - wywiad bardzo ciekawy 24.02.07, 16:54
        Z tego wszystkiego co wyczytalam z roznych zrodel, mozemy sobie pomoc z bolem
        stosujac diete, ale chyba nie do konca stosujac diete bezglutenowa, bo jak
        najbardziej powinnysmy unikac maki i jej produktow, ale w diecie bezglutenowej
        dozwolony jest chociazby nabial i mieso. A wyczytalam ze wlasnie powinnysmy
        unikac nabialu i miesa czerwonego wieprzowiny i wolowiny. Jak najbardziej
        mozemy jesc drob i ryby, warzywa i owoce. Kathryn Marsden napisala ze "Dioksyny
        sa jedna z glownych przyczyn endometriozy. W zwiazku z tym, ze dioksyny sa
        najbardziej skoncentrowane w tluszczach zwierzecych, ludzie sa najbardziej
        narazeni na wprowadzenie ich do organizmu przez spozywanie miesa i produktow
        mleczarskich itd." Moze macie jakies dokladniejsze informacje na temat diety,
        co unikac, co jesc bo juz troche sie w tym gubie. Pozdrawiam
        • livana Re: Odzywianie przy endo - wywiad bardzo ciekawy 26.02.07, 11:33
          Słyszałam o róznych dietach: bezglutenowej, beznabiałowej, bezmięsnej itp. Do
          tej pory uważałam, że nie ma diety cud. Że każdy powinien sobie dopasować dietę
          do swojego organizmu. Mnie bardzo pasuje dieta bezglutenowa, z mięsem i dużą
          ilością nabiału (typu twarogi, maślanki, kefiry, kwaśne mleko). Nie mam
          zatwardzeń, ani bólów brzucha.

          Ale te dioksyny mnie zastanawiają. Muszę jeszcze poczytać na ten temat...
          • anetkaanetka1 Re: Odzywianie przy endo - wywiad bardzo ciekawy 12.03.07, 18:25
            mam prośbę.... czy ktoś dobrze mówiący po angielsku mógłby przetłumaczyć ten
            wywiad dla gorzej mówiących? z góry dziekujemy!
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