sebus_w 09.01.07, 21:40 mam xp pro i zainstalowalem viste na innej partycji. teraz ja wyrzucilem, ale zostalo okno wyboru systemu przy uruchamianiu kompa. jak mam to przywrocic do normalnego stanu? pzdr Link Zgłoś czytaj wygodnie posty
Gość: P Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... IP: *.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 09.01.07, 21:53 Vista nie lubi jak sie go brutalnie wyrzuca stad problem ale jestem pewny ze ktorys z "orlow " podpowie ze mozna zrobic cos innego niz tylko format. Link Zgłoś
Gość: Greg Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... IP: 212.76.40.* 09.01.07, 21:56 Co to znaczy "nie lubi"? Usunięcie wpisu w boot.ini (ewentualnie, zastępczo, bootcfg /scan) nie wystarczy? Link Zgłoś
sebus_w Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... 09.01.07, 22:06 wiem ze mozna edytowac w boot.ini, korzystalem z tego m.in. jak mialem zainstalowane 2x XP. ale w boot.ini nie ma wzmianki o windows vista. jest tylko: ; ;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems. ;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options. ; [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT Link Zgłoś
sebus_w Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... 09.01.07, 22:07 a tego pliku BCDEDIT.exe nie ma... pewnie jest od visty, ktora wywalilem... czemu nie da sie edytowac postow:/ Link Zgłoś
kell99 Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... 09.01.07, 22:09 To tak na wszelki wypadek bys przypadkiem nie przestal uzywac tych najnowszych wypocin. Link Zgłoś
qandre Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... 10.01.07, 00:04 Vista (podobnie jak linux) zmienia sektor rozruchowy dysku, spróbuj go przywrócić poleceniem fixmbr z konsoli odzyskiwania XP. Link Zgłoś
Gość: P Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... IP: *.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 10.01.07, 03:43 Zimno,bardzo zimno panowie. Link Zgłoś
kell99 Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... 10.01.07, 04:15 Wznies sie na wyzyne swojej ynteligtencji i oswiec nas co i jak :P ps. linuks ostrzega, ze zmodyfikuje boot block, m$ go chamsko zamazuje. ale imho vista dopisuje sie do sekwencji startowej poza boot blockiem, ale o tym to juz "P" nam opowie. czekam na doglebne wyjasnienie z jego strony. Link Zgłoś
Gość: P Re: kell IP: *.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 11.01.07, 02:22 There are required explanation .Have a nice time and good luck. Boot Options in Windows Vista Windows Vista introduces a new boot loader architecture; a new firmware-independent boot configuration and storage system called Boot Configuration Data (BCD); and a new boot option editing tool, BCDEdit (BCDEdit.exe). Boot Loading Architecture in Windows Vista Windows Vista includes new boot loader components that are designed to load Windows quicker and more securely. The traditional Windows NT boot loader, ntldr, is replaced by two components: Windows Boot Manager (Bootmgr.exe) System-specific boot loaders In this configuration, the Windows Boot Manager is generic and unaware of the specific requirements for each operating system while the system-specific boot loaders are optimized for the system that they load. When a computer with multiple boot entries includes at least one entry for Windows Vista, the Windows Boot Manager, which resides in the root directory, starts the system and interacts with the user. It displays the boot menu, loads the selected system-specific boot loader, and passes the boot parameters to the boot loader. The boot loaders reside in the root directory of each Windows partition. Once selected, the boot loaders take over the boot process and load the operating system in accordance with the selected boot parameters. Boot Configuration Data On Windows Vista and later versions of Windows, boot options are stored in the Boot Configuration Data (BCD) store on BIOS-based and EFI-based computers. BCD replaces the traditional Boot.ini text file in BIOS-based systems. Storing boot parameters in a text file, however simple, was considered to be too vulnerable to malicious attacks to justify its use. On EFI-based computers, where boot options are stored in NVRAM, you use the same BCD methods to edit boot options as you would use on a BIOS-based computer, instead of accessing NVRAM directly using Windows APIs or specialized tools. BCD provides a common, firmware-independent boot option interface for all computers running Windows Vista. It is more secure than previous boot option storage configurations, because it permits secure lockdown of the BCD store and lets Administrators assign rights for managing boot options. BCD is available at run time and during all phases of setup. You can even call BCD during power state transitions and use it to define the boot process for resuming after hibernation. You can manage BCD remotely and manage BCD when the system boots from media other than the media on which the BCD store resides. This feature is extremely important for debugging and troubleshooting, especially when a BCD store must be restored while running Startup Repair from a CD, from USB-based storage media, or even remotely. Most importantly, BCD is easy to use. The BCD store, with its familiar object-and-element architecture, is easy to use. It uses GUIDs to precisely identify boot-related applications. This new data format for BCD uses a new set of boot options. The Windows boot options that were used in previous versions of Windows, such as /debug, /maxmem, and /pae, are not used on Windows Vista. They have been replaced by a set of different, although often analogous, boot options. For more information about these boot options, see Windows Help and Support. Multiboot Scenarios If multiple Windows operating systems are installed on the computer, and one of the them is Windows Vista, or a later version of Windows, the Windows Boot Manager works with the booting components for older ("legacy") versions of Windows to interact with the user and start the selected operating system. When a multiboot computer is started, the following scenario occurs: The Windows Boot Manager displays a menu with the boot entries for Windows Vista and later versions of Windows, and a Legacy option. If you select a boot entry for Windows Vista or a later version of Windows, the Windows Boot Manager loads the system-specific boot loader for that operating system and passes the parameters for that boot entry to the system-specific boot loader. The system-specific boot loader loads the operating system in accordance with the boot parameters. If you select Legacy, the Windows Boot Manager starts Ntldr, the boot manager for NT-based Windows operating systems prior to Windows Vista. From this point forward, the boot process proceeds as it did prior to Windows Vista. If the computer includes multiple installations of pre-Windows Vista Windows, Ntldr displays a boot menu consisting of the entries for Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, Windows 2000, and Windows NT operating systems. This boot menu is generated from the entries in the Boot.ini file on BIOS-based systems and the boot entries stored in EFI-NVRAM on EFI-based systems. When you select a boot entry, Ntldr loads the operating system in accordance with the boot parameters. Editing Boot Options in Windows Vista To edit boot options in Windows Vista and later versions of Windows, use BCDEdit (BCDedit.exe), a tool included in Windows Vista. You cannot use Bootcfg or NvrBoot to edit boot options on Windows Vista and later versions of Windows, although you can continue to use them to edit boot options on prior versions of Windows. To use BCDEdit, you must be a member of the Administrators group on the computer. BCDEdit is documented in Windows Help and Support. To change boot options programmatically on Windows Vista and later versions of Windows, use the Windows Management Instrument (WMI) interface to boot options. This WMI interface is the only method provided to change the boot options. For information about the WMI interface, see the BCD topic in the Platform SDK documentation. Link Zgłoś
kell99 Re: kell 11.01.07, 02:30 O! I o taka odpowiedz prawie chodzilo. "Prawie", bo zalozyciel watku zaznaczyl, ze bdcedit.exe nie ma (a z tresci wynika, ze to program z Visty). Wiec tak jakby to odpowiedzi 'off-topic'. Link Zgłoś
Gość: K Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... IP: *.adsl.inetia.pl 10.01.07, 10:37 Mam trochę inne rozwiązanie. Twój problem to jest nadpisany bootsector przez Vistę na dysku twardym. Aby go przywrócić, niestety musiałbyś posiadać kopię takowego lub jeszcze raz spróbować instalować drugiego xp, aby przywrócić stary bootsector. Wystarczy, że system podczas instalacji nadpisze bootsector. Nawet nie trzeba będzie dokończyć instalacji drugiego systemu. Potem usunąć resztki poinstalacyjne i zmienić wpisy w boot.ini. Link Zgłoś
sebus_w Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... 10.01.07, 14:31 ok, to sproboje z instalacja nowego xp na innej partycji. Link Zgłoś
Gość: Ktos Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... IP: *.it-net.pl 10.01.07, 17:06 A fixboot i fixmbr w konsoli odzyskiwania z płyty XP nie zadziała? Link Zgłoś
sebus_w Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... 10.01.07, 20:24 po zainstalowaniu drugiego xp wszystko jest ok. dzieki:)) Link Zgłoś
Gość: P Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... IP: *.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com 11.01.07, 02:18 I co panowie ,nie udalo sie rozwiazac banlnie prostego z pozoru problemu. Link Zgłoś
sebus_w Re: vista + xp - vista = problem.... 13.01.07, 12:59 Gość portalu: P napisał(a): > I co panowie ,nie udalo sie rozwiazac banlnie prostego z pozoru problemu. jakto nie udalo sie?? zainstalowalem drugiego windowsa na innej partycji i pozniej go wykasowalem. wszystko zajelo mi ok 15 min;] Link Zgłoś