Polska kupi gaz od wloskiego koncerna ENI?

26.11.09, 23:39
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    • hubert100 Re: Polska kupi gaz od wloskiego koncerna ENI? 27.11.09, 00:31
      A jak tam te "zelazne" kontrakty z Katarem??? Moze leiej podpisac z Dubajem.....

      wyborcza.pl/1,75248,7297100,Dubaj_oglasza_zamrozenie_splat_zadluzenia.html
      • przyjacielameryki Re: Polska kupi gaz od wloskiego koncerna ENI? 27.11.09, 16:29
        hubert100 napisał:

        > A jak tam te "zelazne" kontrakty z Katarem??? Moze leiej podpisac z Dubajem....
        > .
        >
        > <a href="https://wyborcza.pl


        Hubert, Polska ma zapewnione dostawy gazu i z Rosji(Jamałem) i w przyszłości do
        gazoportów. Mamy już wielkie magazyny w których możemy magazynować olbrzymie
        ilości gazu. To nie jest dla nas żaden problem. To Rosja musi się martwić, żeby
        jej gazu wystarczyło do zapełnienia już działających i projektowanych rur bo
        zabraknie im pieniędzy na kary.
        • hubert100 Re: Polska kupi gaz od wloskiego koncerna ENI? 27.11.09, 16:44
          Ty wiesz jakie jest teraz niebezpieczenstwo. Anglia ledwo zipie, teraz przez ten
          Dubai duzo bankow moze pasc przedewszystkiem w Anglii. Anglia moze pojsc droga
          Islandii i zacznie sie reakcja lancuchowa. Baltyckie kraje praktycznie
          zbankrutowaly, nastepni w kolejce to sa kraje Europy Wschhodniej. Male
          prawdopodobienstwo aby Polska sie jeno ostala....
          • przyjacielameryki Re: Polska kupi gaz od wloskiego koncerna ENI? 27.11.09, 19:41
            hubert100 napisał:

            > Ty wiesz jakie jest teraz niebezpieczenstwo. Anglia ledwo zipie, teraz przez te
            > n
            > Dubai duzo bankow moze pasc przedewszystkiem w Anglii. Anglia moze pojsc droga
            > Islandii i zacznie sie reakcja lancuchowa. Baltyckie kraje praktycznie
            > zbankrutowaly, nastepni w kolejce to sa kraje Europy Wschhodniej. Male
            > prawdopodobienstwo aby Polska sie jeno ostala....


            Znowu opowiadasz głupstwa. Państwa bałtyckie są małe i ich problemy aczkolwiek
            ważne są jednak globalnie małe. Naprawią gospodarki, dostaną pomoc z UE i
            wszystko będzie dobrze. Polska gospodarka jako jedyna w UE w czasie kryzysu ma
            wzrost PKB ponad 1%,a w przyszłym roku ma już być 3%, więc o czym my
            mówimy?????? A ten Dubai to bardzo dobrze że bankrutuje bo to gigantyczna
            głupota te inwestycje(wyspy , wieżowce, trasy narciarskie!!!! - odwaliło im).
            Ale ja widzę, że Ty zupełnie nie zdajesz sobie sprawy z problemów Rosji!!!!! Ten
            kraj ma poważne problemy(pomimo posiadania gazu i ropy) i to we wszystkich
            obszarach również zbrojeniowych(nie są już w stanie stworzyć dobrego produktu) i
            różnie to się może skończyć.
            • hubert100 Re: Polska kupi gaz od wloskiego koncerna ENI? 27.11.09, 22:30
              No to zobacz jak ta Anglia wyglada i te byle demoludy.....



              Wealth Assault #1

              UK Property to CRASH by
              another 40% by 2012

              "It seems the worst is behind us," says Nicholas Leeming of Propertyfinder.com.
              "Confidence in the housing market is at its highest since the credit crunch began."
              Property is for suckers.

              Don’t buy into the property rally, reader.

              It’s for SUCKERS.

              You have a right to be skeptical.

              Nationwide reported that August house prices rose by 1.6%. Halifax claimed a
              rise of 0.8% for the same month.

              The Bank of England confirmed that new mortgage approvals (often a good forward
              indicator) climbed 5% during July to 50.123, their highest level for 15 months.

              So do the property optimists seem to have a point?

              In a word: NO.

              Dig below the surface, and the outlook is far worse than most in the mainstream
              press are willing to let on.

              There are five rock-solid reasons why we think residential property will drop by
              another 40% by 2012 in real terms:

              1. Banks are terrified of lending. Home loan conditions are still very tight
              – two-thirds of all current mortgage offers require a 25% deposit. And they
              aren't showing any sign of easing up. Gross mortgage lending was down 37%
              year-on-year in August, while net lending reached its lowest for eight years,
              says the British Bankers' Association.

              Although mortgage approvals in August were up 17,094 from the disasterous
              21,001 in August 2008, they are still an enormous 55,305 approvals below the
              level that has historically been consistent with stable house prices, let alone
              values rising again.

              2. The rising cost of borrowing will EXTINGUISH any signs of recovery. If
              you’re taking solace in low interest rates, you better think again. Homebuyers
              have seen their first mortgage rate rise this year. Nationwide has upped the
              cost of its fixed-rate deals by up to 0.86%, and state-owned Northern Rock has
              raised its five-year fixed rates by 0.2%.

              Ray Boulger at mortgage broker John Charcol says most, and possibly all,
              of the part-nationalised Lloyds Banking Group – which includes Halifax, Bank of
              Scotland, Lloyds TSB and Cheltenham & Gloucester – will increase their fixed
              rates, "in some cases by quite large amounts".

              "Any material rise in government funding costs will have a knock-on effect
              on secured borrowing, putting significant pressure on households," says RBC
              Capital Markets' John Wraith. "This could have a serious impact on any UK
              economic recovery."

              3. UK property is still MASSIVELY unaffordable. Do you really think that
              house prices have dropped to a reasonable and fair level? From 1983 to 2001, the
              ratio of mortgage advances to earnings remained within a range of two to 2.5
              times. By 2007, it had risen to above four times. Although affordability has
              improved a bit in the last year, it remains stretched.

              According to John Bell of Shore Capital: “If real [inflation adjusted]
              wages fall, affordability may not be restored for the best part of a decade."

              And real incomes are falling. UK average weekly earnings fell at the
              fastest rate seen in 60 years during the month of February. During past
              downturns in Britain, Japan and the Nordic countries gains made during the
              bubble periods were entirely lost in real terms.

              If history repeats itself, Bell predicts "house prices could more than
              halve from here".

              4. UK’s own ‘sub prime’ crisis is about to explode. Almost a third of British
              non-conforming mortgages – where borrowers with weak credit scores were given
              loans on the back of minimal, or no, documentation – taken out in 2005 are now
              90 or more days behind on their payments.

              These are our ‘sub prime’ mortgages.

              According to David Watts at CreditSights these are "alarming numbers,
              uglier than expected". It could all add up to another surge in repossessions,
              and more houses hitting the market when it's least able to absorb them.

              But even the four factors above don’t take into account the housing market’s
              long-term enemy...

              10% unemployment will make rising
              house prices a virtual impossibility

              "Unemployment is predicted to soar from its current 7% to over 10%", says George
              Hay on Breakingviews.

              That’s perhaps the worst news of all for property prices.

              When dole queues lengthen, home values fall.

              Fewer people in work means lower disposable income available to make mortgage
              repayments. That both cuts the number of new buyers and increases the supply of
              forced sellers who can't meet their existing home loan bills. Sadly, it also
              raises the level of repossessions.

              Just take a look at the chart below to see how unemployment and house prices
              tend to be inversely correlated. As you can see, as unemployment rises, house
              prices fall...

              According to John Philpott, Chief Economist at the Chartered Institute of
              Personnel and Development, UK unemployment will peak at 3.2 million in July 29,
              2010 – the end of the second financial quarter.

              To repeat: this brief rally in house prices cannot last.

              If you want to profit in the next 24 months, get out of the property market.

              (You can read our future analysis of unfolding events by trying THREE FREE
              ISSUES of MoneyWeek. Click here.)

              First, I need to give you advance warning of:

              Wealth Assault #2

              A Second, Even Bigger Stock
              Sell-Off Inside 2 Months

              "The bulls are in control," says Vito Racinelli in Barron's.
              Don’t buy into this rally

              “The panic is over!” declares Forbes...

              “Buyers are shopping for stock bargains... we believe the panic is over and
              a V-shaped economic recovery is under way.

              “It is in its earliest stages, which means plenty of economic indicators
              have yet to turn positive, but the signs of a strong bounce off the
              panic-induced lows are all around us.”

              Optimism that the worst is over and growth could soon rebound has driven the
              FTSE 100 up 47% this year.

              Investors – private and institutional – have bought into economic recovery and
              cheap valuations.

              The earnings picture, it seems, is not an issue.

              At MoneyWeek, we believe earnings are very much an issue.

              In other words:

              Don’t buy into this rally either, reader.

              You need to take important actions to protect your stock portfolio as soon as
              possible.

              I’ll get to those shortly.

              First you need to know about the screaming warning signal that’s flashing as you
              read this...

              The ‘Fed Model’ says SELL

              Just six months ago this signal flagged up a major opportunity to get into shares.

              Now that same indicator says stocks are overvalued.

              It’s time to get bearish on the stock market.

              This indicator is called the ‘Fed Model’.

              It shows the relative value between stocks and bonds and has slipped from
              bullish on stocks to neutral.

              It gave its most bullish reading in modern history in January, ahead of the
              recent rally, but has slipped back with frightening pace.

              We know this by calculating the FTSE 100’s earnings yield (earnings per share
              divided by the share price) and comparing it with the yield (what you get as a
              dividend) on 10-year government bonds.

              The idea is that you should buy stocks when the yield is significantly above the
              yield on risk-free bonds.

              Right now, it’s NOT.

              And this is an indicator with a very good track record...

              * The Fed Model sent a clear SELL signal on European equities in June and
              July 2007, well before the market finally cracked.

              * Of course, the Fed Model’s most famous calls were in the 1987 and 2001
              market crashes. Both times this model called the top of the market, according to
              data from ING Research.

              The prevailing opinion here at MoneyWeek is that mar
              • br0fl0vski Re: Polska kupi gaz od wloskiego koncerna ENI? 27.11.09, 22:44
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                • hubert100 Re: Polska kupi gaz od wloskiego koncerna ENI? 28.11.09, 04:00
                  A jak w tym wszystkim Polska bedzie wygladala? Moze dojsc do tego ze jak nie
                  bedziesz mial czegos co przedstawia prawdziwa wartosc dla tej drugiej strony to
                  pozostanie tylko zebrac.
                  • hubert100 Re: Polska kupi gaz od wloskiego koncerna ENI? 28.11.09, 04:18
                    A co wy na to??

                    forum.gazeta.pl/forum/w,17007,103617478,103617478,Polska_ma_ok_400_PKB_dlugu.html
    • jk2007 Francja rezegnuje z Nabucco 27.11.09, 11:12
      i dolacza sie do Gazprom Streamow
      • hubert100 Re: Francja rezegnuje z Nabucco 28.11.09, 04:42
        Zgadza sie....

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