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Transcript of bin Ladin's speech

Saturday 30 October 2004, 16:53 Makka Time, 13:53 GMT

Bin Ladin directed his message at the American people

Bin Ladin tape

Following is the English transcript of Usama bin Ladin's speech in a
videotape aired by Aljazeera on Friday 29 October. In the interests of
authenticity the transcript, which appeared as subtitles at the foot of the
screen, has been left unedited.


To begin: Peace be upon he who follow the Guidance.

People of United States, this talk of mine is for you and concerns the ideal
way to prevent another Manhattan and deals with the war and its causes and
results.

Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar in
human life and that free men do not forfeit their security contrary to Bush's
claims that we hate freedom.

If so, then let him explain why did not strike - for example - Sweden.

And we know that freedom haters do not possess defiant spirits like those of
the 19 may Allah have mercy on them.

No, we fight because we are free men who do not sleep under oppression.

We want to restore freedom to our Nation and just as you lay waste to our
Nation so shall we lay waste to yours.

But I am amazed at you. Even though we are in the fourth year after the
events of September 11, Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and
hiding from you the real cause and thus the reasons are still there for a
repeat of what occurred.

So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and I shall tell
you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken for you to
consider.

I say to you Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike towers.

But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of
the America/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it
came to my mind.

The events that affected my soul in a difficult way started in 1982 when
America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American 6th fleet
helped them in that.

And the whole world saw and heard but did not respond.

In those difficult moments many hard to describe ideas bubbled in my soul but
in the end they produced intense feelings of rejection of tyranny and gave
birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.

And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon it entered my mind that
we should punish the oppressors in kind and that we destroy towers in America
in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred
from killing our women and children.

We have not found it difficult to deal with the Bush administration in light
of the resemblance it bears to the regimes in our countries, half of which
are ruled by the military and the other half of which are ruled by the sons
of kings and presidents.

Our experience with them is lengthy and both types are replete with those who
are characterised by pride, arrogance, greed and misappropriation of wealth.

This resemblance began after the visits of Bush Senior to the region at a
time when some of our compatriots were dazzled by America and hoping that
these visits would have an effect on our countries. All of a sudden he was
affected by these monarchies and military regimes and became jealous of their
remaining decades in their position to embezzle the public wealth of the
Nation without supervision or accounting.

So he took dictatorship and suppression of freedoms to his son and they named
it the Patriot Act under the pretences of fighting terrorism.

In addition, Bush sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors and
did not forget to import expertise in election fraud from the regions
presidents to Florida to be made use of in moments of difficulty.

All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this
administration.

And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa,
Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within
20 minutes before Bush and his administration notice.

It never occurred to us that the Commander in Chief of the armed forces would
abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors
alone at a time when they most needed him.

But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little
girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself
with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers we were given three
times the period required to execute the operations. All praise is due to
Allah.


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      Full transcript of bin Ladin's speech
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      Monday 01 November 2004, 16:01 Makka Time, 13:01 GMT

      Bin Ladin directed his message at the American people

      Bin Ladin tape

      Following is the full English transcript of Usama bin Ladin's speech in a
      videotape sent to Aljazeera. In the interests of authenticity, the content of
      the transcript, which appeared as subtitles at the foot of the screen, has been
      left unedited.


      Praise be to Allah who created the creation for his worship and commanded them
      to be just and permitted the wronged one to retaliate against the oppressor in
      kind. To proceed:

      Peace be upon he who follows the guidance: People of America this talk of mine
      is for you and concerns the ideal way to prevent another Manhattan, and deals
      with the war and its causes and results.

      Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar of human
      life and that free men do not forfeit their security, contrary to Bush's claim
      that we hate freedom.

      If so, then let him explain to us why we don't strike for example - Sweden? And
      we know that freedom-haters don't possess defiant spirits like those of the 19 -
      may Allah have mercy on them.

      No, we fight because we are free men who don't sleep under oppression. We want
      to restore freedom to our nation, just as you lay waste to our nation. So shall
      we lay waste to yours.

      No one except a dumb thief plays with the security of others and then makes
      himself believe he will be secure. Whereas thinking people, when disaster
      strikes, make it their priority to look for its causes, in order to prevent it
      happening again.

      But I am amazed at you. Even though we are in the fourth year after the events
      of September 11th, Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and hiding
      from you the real causes. And thus, the reasons are still there for a repeat of
      what occurred.

      So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and shall tell you
      truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken, for you to
      consider.

      I say to you, Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike the
      towers. But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and
      tyranny of the American/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and
      Lebanon, it came to my mind.

      The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America
      permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped
      them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and
      others were terrorised and displaced.

      I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and
      children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and
      high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home
      without mercy.

      The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except
      for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't
      include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn't respond.

      In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but
      in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave
      birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.

      And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that
      we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in
      America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be
      deterred from killing our women and children.

      And that day, it was confirmed to me that oppression and the intentional
      killing of innocent women and children is a deliberate American policy.
      Destruction is freedom and democracy, while resistance is terrorism and
      intolerance.

      This means the oppressing and embargoing to death of millions as Bush Sr did in
      Iraq in the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known, and it
      means the throwing of millions of pounds of bombs and explosives at millions of
      children - also in Iraq - as Bush Jr did, in order to remove an old agent and
      replace him with a new puppet to assist in the pilfering of Iraq's oil and
      other outrages.

      So with these images and their like as their background, the events of
      September 11th came as a reply to those great wrongs, should a man be blamed
      for defending his sanctuary?

      Is defending oneself and punishing the aggressor in kind, objectionable
      terrorism? If it is such, then it is unavoidable for us.

      This is the message which I sought to communicate to you in word and deed,
      repeatedly, for years before September 11th.

      And you can read this, if you wish, in my interview with Scott in Time Magazine
      in 1996, or with Peter Arnett on CNN in 1997, or my meeting with John Weiner in
      1998.

      You can observe it practically, if you wish, in Kenya and Tanzania and in Aden.
      And you can read it in my interview with Abdul Bari Atwan, as well as my
      interviews with Robert Fisk.

      The latter is one of your compatriots and co-religionists and I consider him to
      be neutral. So are the pretenders of freedom at the White House and the
      channels controlled by them able to run an interview with him? So that he may
      relay to the American people what he has understood from us to be the reasons
      for our fight against you?

      If you were to avoid these reasons, you will have taken the correct path that
      will lead America to the security that it was in before September 11th. This
      concerned the causes of the war.

      As for it's results, they have been, by the grace of Allah, positive and
      enormous, and have, by all standards, exceeded all expectations. This is due to
      many factors, chief among them, that we have found it difficult to deal with
      the Bush administration in light of the resemblance it bears to the regimes in
      our countries, half of which are ruled by the military and the other half which
      are ruled by the sons of kings and presidents.

      Our experience with them is lengthy, and both types are replete with those who
      are characterised by pride, arrogance, greed and misappropriation of wealth.
      This resemblance began after the visits of Bush Sr to the region.

      At a time when some of our compatriots were dazzled by America and hoping that
      these visits would have an effect on our countries, all of a sudden he was
      affected by those monarchies and military regimes, and became envious of their
      remaining decades in their positions, to embezzle the public wealth of the
      nation without supervision or accounting.

      So he took dictatorship and suppression of freedoms to his son and they named
      it the Patriot Act, under the pretence of fighting terrorism. In addition, Bush
      sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors, and didn't forget to
      import expertise in election fraud from the region's presidents to Florida to
      be made use of in moments of difficulty.

      All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this
      administration. All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest
      point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to
      make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and
      political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than
      some benefits for their private companies.

      This is in addition to our having experience in using guerrilla warfare and the
      war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers, as we, alongside the
      mujahidin, bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt and was forced to
      withdraw in defeat.

      All Praise is due to Allah.

      So we are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point
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        So we are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of
        bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah.

        That being said, those who say that al-Qaida has won against the administration
        in the White House or that the administration has lost in this war have not
        been precise, because when one scrutinises the results, one cannot say that al-
        Qaida is the sole factor in achieving those spectacular gains.

        Rather, the policy of the White House that demands the opening of war fronts to
        keep busy their various corporations - whether they be working in the field of
        arms or oil or reconstruction - has helped al-Qaida to achieve these enormous
        results.

        And so it has appeared to some analysts and diplomats that the White House and
        us are playing as one team towards the economic goals of the United States,
        even if the intentions differ.

        And it was to these sorts of notions and their like that the British diplomat
        and others were referring in their lectures at the Royal Institute of
        International Affairs. [When they pointed out that] for example, al-Qaida spent
        $500,000 on the event, while America, in the incident and its aftermath, lost -
        according to the lowest estimate - more than $500 billion.

        Meaning that every dollar of al-Qaida defeated a million dollars by the
        permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs.

        As for the size of the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical
        numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars.

        And even more dangerous and bitter for America is that the mujahidin recently
        forced Bush to resort to emergency funds to continue the fight in Afghanistan
        and Iraq, which is evidence of the success of the bleed-until-bankruptcy plan -
        with Allah's permission.

        It is true that this shows that al-Qaida has gained, but on the other hand, it
        shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something of which anyone
        who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush
        administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be
        convinced. And it all shows that the real loser is ... you.

        It is the American people and their economy. And for the record, we had agreed
        with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa, Allah have mercy on him, that all the
        operations should be carried out within 20 minutes, before Bush and his
        administration notice.

        It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed
        forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those
        great horrors alone, the time when they most needed him.

        But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little
        girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself
        with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers, we were given three times
        the period required to execute the operations - all praise is due to Allah.

        And it's no secret to you that the thinkers and perceptive ones from among the
        Americans warned Bush before the war and told him: "All that you want for
        securing America and removing the weapons of mass destruction - assuming they
        exist - is available to you, and the nations of the world are with you in the
        inspections, and it is in the interest of America that it not be thrust into an
        unjustified war with an unknown outcome."

        But the darkness of the black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave
        priority to private interests over the public interests of America.

        So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush
        became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future. He fits the
        saying "like the naughty she-goat who used her hoof to dig up a knife from
        under the earth".

        So I say to you, over 15,000 of our people have been killed and tens of
        thousands injured, while more than a thousand of you have been killed and more
        than 10,000 injured. And Bush's hands are stained with the blood of all those
        killed from both sides, all for the sake of oil and keeping their private
        companies in business.

        Be aware that it is the nation who punishes the weak man when he causes the
        killing of one of its citizens for money, while letting the powerful one get
        off, when he causes the killing of more than 1000 of its sons, also for money.

        And the same goes for your allies in Palestine. They terrorise the women and
        children, and kill and capture the men as they lie sleeping with their families
        on the mattresses, that you may recall that for every action, there is a
        reaction.

        Finally, it behoves you to reflect on the last wills and testaments of the
        thousands who left you on the 11th as they gestured in despair. They are
        important testaments, which should be studied and researched.

        Among the most important of what I read in them was some prose in their
        gestures before the collapse, where they say: "How mistaken we were to have
        allowed the White House to implement its aggressive foreign policies against
        the weak without supervision."

        It is as if they were telling you, the people of America: "Hold to account
        those who have caused us to be killed, and happy is he who learns from others'
        mistakes."

        And among that which I read in their gestures is a verse of poetry. "Injustice
        chases its people, and how unhealthy the bed of tyranny."

        As has been said: "An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure."

        And know that: "It is better to return to the truth than persist in error." And
        that the wise man doesn't squander his security, wealth and children for the
        sake of the liar in the White House.

        In conclusion, I tell you in truth, that your security is not in the hands of
        Kerry, nor Bush, nor al-Qaida. No.

        Your security is in your own hands. And every state that doesn't play with our
        security has automatically guaranteed its own security.

        And Allah is our Guardian and Helper, while you have no Guardian or Helper. All
        peace be upon he who follows the Guidance.


        Aljazeera


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      > W sobote podalem za angielskim rzekomo pro-muzulmanskim pismem transkrypt
      > Usama bin Ladin's video-tasmy - Rzekomo w calosci i rzekomo wierny ,... Dzis
      > zagladam do Aljazeera i oczom nie wierze . Porownajcie sami !
      >
      > Angielska wersja
      >
      > forum.gazeta.pl/forum/72,2.html?f=50&w=17188162
      > Transcript of bin Ladin's speech
      >
      > Saturday 30 October 2004, 16:53 Makka Time, 13:53 GMT
      >
      > Bin Ladin directed his message at the American people
      >
      > Bin Ladin tape
      >
      > Following is the English transcript of Usama bin Ladin's speech in a
      > videotape aired by Aljazeera on Friday 29 October. In the interests of
      > authenticity the transcript, which appeared as subtitles at the foot of the
      > screen, has been left unedited.
      >
      >
      > To begin: Peace be upon he who follow the Guidance.
      >
      > People of United States, this talk of mine is for you and concerns the ideal
      > way to prevent another Manhattan and deals with the war and its causes and
      > results.
      >
      > Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar in
      > human life and that free men do not forfeit their security contrary to Bush's
      > claims that we hate freedom.
      >
      > If so, then let him explain why did not strike - for example - Sweden.
      >
      > And we know that freedom haters do not possess defiant spirits like those of
      > the 19 may Allah have mercy on them.
      >
      > No, we fight because we are free men who do not sleep under oppression.
      >
      > We want to restore freedom to our Nation and just as you lay waste to our
      > Nation so shall we lay waste to yours.
      >
      > But I am amazed at you. Even though we are in the fourth year after the
      > events of September 11, Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and
      > hiding from you the real cause and thus the reasons are still there for a
      > repeat of what occurred.
      >
      > So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and I shall tell
      > you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken for you to
      > consider.
      >
      > I say to you Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike towers.
      >
      > But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of
      > the America/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it
      > came to my mind.
      >
      > The events that affected my soul in a difficult way started in 1982 when
      > America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American 6th fleet
      > helped them in that.
      >
      > And the whole world saw and heard but did not respond.
      >
      > In those difficult moments many hard to describe ideas bubbled in my soul but
      > in the end they produced intense feelings of rejection of tyranny and gave
      > birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.
      >
      > And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon it entered my mind that
      > we should punish the oppressors in kind and that we destroy towers in America
      > in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred
      > from killing our women and children.
      >
      > We have not found it difficult to deal with the Bush administration in light
      > of the resemblance it bears to the regimes in our countries, half of which
      > are ruled by the military and the other half of which are ruled by the sons
      > of kings and presidents.
      >
      > Our experience with them is lengthy and both types are replete with those who
      > are characterised by pride, arrogance, greed and misappropriation of wealth.
      >
      > This resemblance began after the visits of Bush Senior to the region at a
      > time when some of our compatriots were dazzled by America and hoping that
      > these visits would have an effect on our countries. All of a sudden he was
      > affected by these monarchies and military regimes and became jealous of their
      > remaining decades in their position to embezzle the public wealth of the
      > Nation without supervision or accounting.
      >
      > So he took dictatorship and suppression of freedoms to his son and they named
      > it the Patriot Act under the pretences of fighting terrorism.
      >
      > In addition, Bush sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors and
      > did not forget to import expertise in election fraud from the regions
      > presidents to Florida to be made use of in moments of difficulty.
      >
      > All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this
      > administration.
      >
      > And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa,
      > Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within
      > 20 minutes before Bush and his administration notice.
      >
      > It never occurred to us that the Commander in Chief of the armed forces would
      > abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors
      > alone at a time when they most needed him.
      >
      > But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little
      > girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself
      > with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers we were given three
      > times the period required to execute the operations. All praise is due to
      > Allah.
      >
      >
      • Gość: sp;lit Re: split na unemployment? IP: *.nas31.tukwila2.wa.us.da.qwest.net 02.11.04, 16:48
        Nie martw sie dupku , jak ja strace prace to ty bedziesz przymieral glodem ,...

        Dla sp;lita im gorzej tym lepiej , jak u grabarza - Reklama w kryzysie jest
        bardziej intensywna , a moje zlote raczki bardziej poszukiwane , martw sie o
        wlasna dupe .

        uklony
        • Gość: brawosplit Re: split na unemployment? IP: *.telia.com 02.11.04, 16:53
          Daj dupkowi po lbie. Bo gowno wie a skrzeczy.
    • Gość: sp;lit Re: Machlojki z transkryptem Usama bin Ladin's vi IP: *.nas31.tukwila2.wa.us.da.qwest.net 02.11.04, 21:49
      Nawet w izraelskich mediach , glebiej i wiecej prawdy niz tutaj ,...

      uklony

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      Bin Laden says Israel a factor behind 9/11 attacks

      By The Associated Press

      Osama bin Laden's latest videotape, dropped off at the Pakistan offices of an
      Arabic television network, lacked the lofty, inspirational, more militant
      language his followers have come to expect.

      Still, analysts said yesterday that far-flung al-Qaida supporters are likely to
      be thrilled just to see him alive, looking and sounding fit and firmly in
      control of their cause.

      In the video aired Al Jazeera television, bin Laden acknowledges for the first
      time that he ordered the 2001 Sept. 11 attacks and says he did so because of
      injustices against the Lebanese and Palestinians by Israel and the United
      States. He refrained from directly warning of new attacks in the video, his
      first in more than a year, although he said "there are still reasons to repeat
      what happened."

      "Your security is not in the hands of Kerry, Bush or Al-Qaida. Your security is
      in your own hands," bin Laden said. "Any state that does not mess with our
      security has naturally guaranteed its own security."

      Beyond appealing to Americans as they prepare to vote Tuesday in what is
      expected to be a close election, the tape also attempts to debunk any illusions
      bin Laden is cut off from the world, hiding Saddam Hussein-style in a hole in
      the ground as U.S. forces close in and his reportedly failing kidneys give out.

      Rather, it shows the aging terror mastermind clean and looking fresh and well-
      dressed in a more formal setting than past videos of him shot walking outside
      or sitting on the ground with weapons and aids nearby.

      "It was a surprise to see him back again," said Abdul Khaleq Abdulla, a
      political analyst in the United Arab Emirates and professor at Emirates
      University in al-Ain. "It was a surprise he was in good health; it was a
      surprise he was in control of his thoughts ... This will energize much of his
      followers."

      Bin Laden said he wanted to explain why he ordered the suicide airline
      hijackings that hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon so Americans would
      know how to act to prevent another attack.

      "To the American people, my talk to you is about the best way to avoid another
      Manhattan," he said. "I tell you - security is an important element of human
      life and, free people do not give up their security."

      A U.S. military spokesman in Afghanistan, Maj. Scott Nelson, yesterday
      dismissed the new video as "propaganda," and said the Al-Qaida leader would be
      caught - but acknowledged the U.S. has no fix on his whereabouts. Nelson also
      defended the failure to capture bin Laden thus far, saying the border area with
      Pakistan where he might be hiding was mountainous and stretched 2,500
      kilometers.

      The video showed bin Laden with a long, gray beard, wearing traditional white
      robes, a turban and a golden cloak, standing behind a table with papers. His
      hands were steady.

      The Bush administration said it believes the videotape is authentic and was
      made recently, noting that bin Laden referred to 1,000 U.S. military deaths in
      Iraq, a figure reached in early September.

      In the year since the Al-Qaida leader has appeared on video, a crackdown
      against al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia, one of the most fertile Al-Qaida recruiting
      grounds, has hit the local leadership there hard. But Al-Qaida also formed an
      alliance recently with one of the most-active, and most-wanted, terror
      suspects - Jordanian Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, an insurgency leader in Iraq.

      Despite the lack of religious, angry and more inspirational language of the
      latest tape - at times his tone was almost conciliatory as he addressed
      Americans - few suspect any fundamental change.

      The tactic, beyond being more accessible to average Americans, could benefit
      bin Laden regionally, particularly as he played up a cause dear to all Arabs,
      the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Bin Laden claimed he was first inspired to
      attack the United States by the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, a siege in
      which buildings in Beirut were destroyed in what by then already was a civil
      war-ravaged capital.



      • Gość: mak Re: Machlojki z transkryptem Usama bin Ladin's vi IP: *.proxy.aol.com 02.11.04, 23:22
        sp;lit nie pekaj,zycie jest piekne w Pacific Northwest,mieszkasz chlopie w
        najladniejszym zakatku USA,lososie sa najlepsze z rusztu w Gig Harbor pod
        zywieckie piwo,he,he,super,miejmy nadzieje ze jutro ludzie obudza sie w innej
        Ameryce,pozdrowka , mak.
        • Gość: sp;lit Re: Machlojki z transkryptem Usama bin Ladin's vi IP: *.nas31.tukwila2.wa.us.da.qwest.net 03.11.04, 01:03
          Rowniez pozdrowka , mak , szkoda ze tak rzadko zagladasz ,... Mieszkam chlopie
          w raju , zebys wiedzial ,... Jesli raj kiedys istnial to mogl istniec tylko na
          na Pacific NW , a nie na gdzies ugorze gdzies na Bliskim Wschodzie ,...

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          • Gość: zbalansowany Re: Machlojki z transkryptem Usama bin Ladin's vi IP: *.mel.dialup.connect.net.au 03.11.04, 01:17
            Zauwazylem ze wycina sie glownie te fragmenty jego wypowiedzi ktore mowia ze
            atak na WTC byl odwetem za masakry popelnione na Palestynczykach i Libanczykach
            przez wojska izraelskie - hutzpa nie zna granic.
            • kyle_broflovski Re: Machlojki z transkryptem Usama bin Ladin's vi 03.11.04, 01:23
              jakie to ma znaczenie co sie wycina. ciagle brak odpowiedzi jak to sie stalo
              • Gość: zbalansowany Re: Machlojki z transkryptem Usama bin Ladin's vi IP: *.mel.dialup.connect.net.au 03.11.04, 01:31
                A ma i to wielkie znaczenie!

                Widac wyraznie jak hutzpiarstwo sie boi zeby przypadkiem przecietny amerykanin
                nie zaczal sie drapac w glowe i pytac:

                Jaki jest sens w popieraniu tego gownianego Izraela i jego bandyckiej polityki,
                skoro to nas kosztuje miliardy i na dodatek naraza na ataki doprowadzonych do
                ostatecznosci Arabow??!!!??

                W dniu w ktorym to sie stanie hutzpiarze sa skonczeni!
                • kyle_broflovski Re: Machlojki z transkryptem Usama bin Ladin's vi 03.11.04, 01:37
                  panstwo Izrael istnieje od 1947 W Bush chodzil wtedy w pieluchach. Tak dlugo
                  dokoki nie pozna sie faktow zwiazanych z 911 wszystko to niewiele warte bo sluzy
                  tylko do przepychanek przy korycie. nawet Jak Kerry wygra dzis to Izrael bedzie
                  w tym samym miejscu co wczoraj Amerykanie beda w Iraku a wojna z Iranem sie
                  tylko opozni. jednim slowim to samo g.. tylko inne much na nim
                  • Gość: zbalansowany Re: Machlojki z transkryptem Usama bin Ladin's vi IP: *.mel.dialup.connect.net.au 03.11.04, 01:48
                    Nie mam ZADNYCH watpliwosci ze zarowno Bush jak i Kerry to wychodzi na jedno -
                    zycze zwyciestwa Kerremu tylko dlatego ze juz nie moge patrzec na morde tego
                    Debilja.
                    Istnieje wiele spekulacji odnosnie 119, ale w zasadzie z grubsza wszystko
                    wiadomo. Oczywiscie bomba by wybuchla gdyby sie okazalo ze za 119 staly jakies
                    inne sily, ale po oswiadczeniu BLadena ja nie mam juz wiekszych watpliwosci.

                    Jezeli interesuja cie spekulacje na ten temat, to masz tu jedna z ciekawszych

                    www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm
                    • kyle_broflovski Re: Machlojki z transkryptem Usama bin Ladin's vi 03.11.04, 02:07
                      zyjem w takich czasach medium (TV) staje sie samo w sobie informacja. jesli ktos
                      dzis zobaczy w TV to juz nie kwestjonuje bo jak wylo w TV to prawda.

                      po 3 latach od 911 mozna sie zastanowic jak mozliwe bylo nie zauwazalne
                      zboczenie z kursu 4 samolotow pasazerskich a wiadomo przeciez gdzie one leca a
                      leca w korytarzach powietrznych. jak juz 1 samolot walnal WTC to kazdy logicznie
                      myslacy czlowiek zaczalby sie zastanawiac gdzie leca 3 pozostale. zaden samolot
                      wojskowy nie probowal ich przechwycic.
                      mozna wcale o tym nie myslec bo nie przeszkadza to w codziennym zyciu. a za pare
                      lat i tak sie o tym zapomni . nasze dzieci naucza sie tego z podrecznikow
                      pelniacych role utrwalacza. ludzi juz dzis sprawa BMR w Iraku nie interesuje.
                      swiadomie wykasowali sobie pamiec.
                • Gość: sp;lit Re: Machlojki z transkryptem Usama bin Ladin's vi IP: *.nas31.tukwila2.wa.us.da.qwest.net 03.11.04, 02:13
                  Predzej czy pozniej , nieuniknione scenario ,... Jesli nie zmienimy naszego
                  slepego poparcia temu konusowi na Bliskim Wschodzie , nie mam watpliwosci ze
                  zaplacimy kiedys za to i to bedzie epitafium wyrytym w kamieniu , gdzies w
                  Washington DC Apropo's naszej wspolpracy i dozgonnej przyjazni z Zydami ,...

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            • Gość: sp;lit Re: Machlojki z transkryptem Usama bin Ladin's vi IP: *.nas31.tukwila2.wa.us.da.qwest.net 03.11.04, 01:45
              W moim wypadku , zwrocila post , nie powiem , ale rowniez musze zaznaczyc ze
              kilka godzin na Oslej Lawce , zabralo troche wiatru z zagla ,...

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    • Gość: sp;lit Machlojki z transkryptem bin Ladin's video up ! IP: *.nas31.tukwila2.wa.us.da.qwest.net 04.11.04, 15:52
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