Prawdziwe oblicze operacji "Ochronny mur"

IP: *.tor.aei.net 27.04.02, 02:29
Operation Destroy the Data

By Amira Hass

It's a scene that is repeating itself in hundreds of Palestinian offices taken
over by IDF troops for a few hours or days in the West Bank: smashed, burned
and broken computer terminals heaped in piles and thrown into yards; server
cabling cut, hard disks missing, disks and diskettes scattered and broken,
printers and scanners broken or missing, laptops gone, telephone exchanges that
disappeared or were vandalized, and paper files burned, torn, scattered, or
defaced - if not taken. And it's all in rooms full of smashed furniture, torn
curtains, broken windows, smashed-in doors, walls full of holes, filthy floors
and soiled bathrooms. Here and there, the soldiers left obscene graffiti or
letters full of hatred, but compared to the data that was destroyed or taken,
the insults read like poetry. Even the overflowing toilets look more like human
weakness compared to the organized vandalism reflected in the piles of smashed
computers.

It's not merely the expense of the hardware that has to be replaced. The loss
is immeasurable in shekels or dollars. Years of information built into
knowledge, time spent thinking by thousands of people working to build their
civil society and their future or trying to build a private sector that would
bring a sense of economic stability to their country.

These are the data banks developed in Palestinian Authority institutions like
the Education Ministry, the Higher Education Ministry and the Health Ministry.
These are the data banks of the non-governmental organizations and research
institutes devoted to developing a modern health system, modern agricultural,
environmental protection and water conservation. These are the data banks of
human rights organizations, banks and private commercial enterprises,
infirmaries, and supermarkets. They all were clearly the targets for
destruction in the military operation called Defensive Shield.

The Israeli public has been spared the sights of the destruction. Here and
there, a photo of some demolished office sneaks into the TV news shows. But
Israeli TV news doesn't find a few seconds to report on a Palestinian woman or
a child of nine who was shot dead from a distance, inside their homes, by an
anonymous Israeli soldier, so how can it find time or reason to report on the
crazed destruction perpetrated by a unit of soldiers in one office.

The IDF has given up denying that some soldiers looted - money, jewels and
video cameras - private homes. That can be explained by officers too weak to
impose discipline on their soldiers and by soldiers too weak to fight material
temptation. But the systematic destruction of the data banks was not a matter
of personal weakness by either officers or soldiers.

Let's not deceive ourselves; this was not a mission to search and destroy the
terrorist infrastructure. If the forces breaking into every hard disk of every
bank and clinic, commercial consultant's office or PA ministry, thought that a
list of weapons or wanted men was inside the disk, all they had to do was copy
the information and pass it on to the Shin Bet. If they thought incriminating
evidence was hidden in the Education Ministry and the International Bank of
Palestine and in a shop that rents prosthetics, the soldiers would have
examined document after document, and not thrown the files on the floor without
opening them.

This was not a whim, or crazed vengeance, by this or that unit, nor a personal
vandalistic urge of a soldier whose buddies didn't dare stop him. There was a
decision made to vandalize the civic, administrative, cultural infrastructure
developed by Palestinian society. Was it an explicit order or one given with a
wink? Was it an order or was it the result of permission given to soldiers to
do what they want? Did the order - or wink - come down from the battalion
commander or from the brigadier? Was it from the headquarters of IDF forces in
the West Bank or from IDF Operations? Did it come from the general in command
of the Central Command or from general headquarters?

Either way, the scenes of systematic destruction show how the IDF translated
into the field the instructions inherent in the political echelon's policies:
Israel must destroy Palestinian civil institutions, sabotaging for years to
come the Palestinian goal for independence, sending all of Palestinian society
backward. It's so easy and comforting to think of the entire Palestinian
society as primitive, bloodthirsty terrorists, after the raw material and
product of their intellectual, cultural, social and economic activity has been
destroyed. That way, the Israeli public can continue to be deceived into
believing that terror is a genetic problem and not a sociological and political
mutation, horrific as it may be, derived from the horrors of the occupation.


    • Gość: jojo Re: Prawdziwe oblicze operacji IP: *.proxy.aol.com 27.04.02, 02:48
      Gość portalu: Karol napisał(a):

      > Operation Destroy the Data
      >
      > By Amira Hass
      >
      > It's a scene that is repeating itself in hundreds of Palestinian offices taken
      > over by IDF troops for a few hours or days in the West Bank: smashed, burned
      > and broken computer terminals heaped in piles and thrown into yards; server
      > cabling cut, hard disks missing, disks and diskettes scattered and broken,
      > printers and scanners broken or missing, laptops gone, telephone exchanges that
      >
      > disappeared or were vandalized, and paper files burned, torn, scattered, or
      > defaced - if not taken. And it's all in rooms full of smashed furniture, torn
      > curtains, broken windows, smashed-in doors, walls full of holes, filthy floors
      > and soiled bathrooms. Here and there, the soldiers left obscene graffiti or
      > letters full of hatred, but compared to the data that was destroyed or taken,
      > the insults read like poetry. Even the overflowing toilets look more like human
      >
      > weakness compared to the organized vandalism reflected in the piles of smashed
      > computers.
      >
      > It's not merely the expense of the hardware that has to be replaced. The loss
      > is immeasurable in shekels or dollars. Years of information built into
      > knowledge, time spent thinking by thousands of people working to build their
      > civil society and their future or trying to build a private sector that would
      > bring a sense of economic stability to their country.
      >
      > These are the data banks developed in Palestinian Authority institutions like
      > the Education Ministry, the Higher Education Ministry and the Health Ministry.
      > These are the data banks of the non-governmental organizations and research
      > institutes devoted to developing a modern health system, modern agricultural,
      > environmental protection and water conservation. These are the data banks of
      > human rights organizations, banks and private commercial enterprises,
      > infirmaries, and supermarkets. They all were clearly the targets for
      > destruction in the military operation called Defensive Shield.
      >
      > The Israeli public has been spared the sights of the destruction. Here and
      > there, a photo of some demolished office sneaks into the TV news shows. But
      > Israeli TV news doesn't find a few seconds to report on a Palestinian woman or
      > a child of nine who was shot dead from a distance, inside their homes, by an
      > anonymous Israeli soldier, so how can it find time or reason to report on the
      > crazed destruction perpetrated by a unit of soldiers in one office.
      >
      > The IDF has given up denying that some soldiers looted - money, jewels and
      > video cameras - private homes. That can be explained by officers too weak to
      > impose discipline on their soldiers and by soldiers too weak to fight material
      > temptation. But the systematic destruction of the data banks was not a matter
      > of personal weakness by either officers or soldiers.
      >
      > Let's not deceive ourselves; this was not a mission to search and destroy the
      > terrorist infrastructure. If the forces breaking into every hard disk of every
      > bank and clinic, commercial consultant's office or PA ministry, thought that a
      > list of weapons or wanted men was inside the disk, all they had to do was copy
      > the information and pass it on to the Shin Bet. If they thought incriminating
      > evidence was hidden in the Education Ministry and the International Bank of
      > Palestine and in a shop that rents prosthetics, the soldiers would have
      > examined document after document, and not thrown the files on the floor without
      >
      > opening them.
      >
      > This was not a whim, or crazed vengeance, by this or that unit, nor a personal
      > vandalistic urge of a soldier whose buddies didn't dare stop him. There was a
      > decision made to vandalize the civic, administrative, cultural infrastructure
      > developed by Palestinian society. Was it an explicit order or one given with a
      > wink? Was it an order or was it the result of permission given to soldiers to
      > do what they want? Did the order - or wink - come down from the battalion
      > commander or from the brigadier? Was it from the headquarters of IDF forces in
      > the West Bank or from IDF Operations? Did it come from the general in command
      > of the Central Command or from general headquarters?
      >
      > Either way, the scenes of systematic destruction show how the IDF translated
      > into the field the instructions inherent in the political echelon's policies:
      > Israel must destroy Palestinian civil institutions, sabotaging for years to
      > come the Palestinian goal for independence, sending all of Palestinian society
      > backward. It's so easy and comforting to think of the entire Palestinian
      > society as primitive, bloodthirsty terrorists, after the raw material and
      > product of their intellectual, cultural, social and economic activity has been
      > destroyed. That way, the Israeli public can continue to be deceived into
      > believing that terror is a genetic problem and not a sociological and political
      >
      > mutation, horrific as it may be, derived from the horrors of the occupation.
      >
      >

      Bedac na polskim forum Karolku,pisz po polsku,bo ja z tego cwierkania
      twojego,niczewo pojac nie mog,podobnie jak inni forumowicze z Ojczyzny mojej
      kochanej,hi hi hi !
      • Gość: Exorcist Re: Prawdziwe oblicze operacji IP: *.clvhoh.adelphia.net 27.04.02, 04:55
        Gość portalu: jojo napisał(a):

        > Gość portalu: Karol napisał(a):
        >
        > > Operation Destroy the Data
        > >
        > > By Amira Hass
        > >
        > > It's a scene that is repeating itself in hundreds of Palestinian offices t
        > aken
        > > over by IDF troops for a few hours or days in the West Bank: smashed, burn
        > ed
        > > and broken computer terminals heaped in piles and thrown into yards; serve
        > r
        > > cabling cut, hard disks missing, disks and diskettes scattered and broken,
        >
        > > printers and scanners broken or missing, laptops gone, telephone exchanges
        > that
        > >
        > > disappeared or were vandalized, and paper files burned, torn, scattered, o
        > r
        > > defaced - if not taken. And it's all in rooms full of smashed furniture, t
        > orn
        > > curtains, broken windows, smashed-in doors, walls full of holes, filthy fl
        > oors
        > > and soiled bathrooms. Here and there, the soldiers left obscene graffiti o
        > r
        > > letters full of hatred, but compared to the data that was destroyed or tak
        > en,
        > > the insults read like poetry. Even the overflowing toilets look more like
        > human
        > >
        > > weakness compared to the organized vandalism reflected in the piles of sma
        > shed
        > > computers.
        > >
        > > It's not merely the expense of the hardware that has to be replaced. The l
        > oss
        > > is immeasurable in shekels or dollars. Years of information built into
        > > knowledge, time spent thinking by thousands of people working to build the
        > ir
        > > civil society and their future or trying to build a private sector that wo
        > uld
        > > bring a sense of economic stability to their country.
        > >
        > > These are the data banks developed in Palestinian Authority institutions l
        > ike
        > > the Education Ministry, the Higher Education Ministry and the Health Minis
        > try.
        > > These are the data banks of the non-governmental organizations and researc
        > h
        > > institutes devoted to developing a modern health system, modern agricultur
        > al,
        > > environmental protection and water conservation. These are the data banks
        > of
        > > human rights organizations, banks and private commercial enterprises,
        > > infirmaries, and supermarkets. They all were clearly the targets for
        > > destruction in the military operation called Defensive Shield.
        > >
        > > The Israeli public has been spared the sights of the destruction. Here and
        >
        > > there, a photo of some demolished office sneaks into the TV news shows. Bu
        > t
        > > Israeli TV news doesn't find a few seconds to report on a Palestinian woma
        > n or
        > > a child of nine who was shot dead from a distance, inside their homes, by
        > an
        > > anonymous Israeli soldier, so how can it find time or reason to report on
        > the
        > > crazed destruction perpetrated by a unit of soldiers in one office.
        > >
        > > The IDF has given up denying that some soldiers looted - money, jewels and
        >
        > > video cameras - private homes. That can be explained by officers too weak
        > to
        > > impose discipline on their soldiers and by soldiers too weak to fight mate
        > rial
        > > temptation. But the systematic destruction of the data banks was not a mat
        > ter
        > > of personal weakness by either officers or soldiers.
        > >
        > > Let's not deceive ourselves; this was not a mission to search and destroy
        > the
        > > terrorist infrastructure. If the forces breaking into every hard disk of e
        > very
        > > bank and clinic, commercial consultant's office or PA ministry, thought th
        > at a
        > > list of weapons or wanted men was inside the disk, all they had to do was
        > copy
        > > the information and pass it on to the Shin Bet. If they thought incriminat
        > ing
        > > evidence was hidden in the Education Ministry and the International Bank o
        > f
        > > Palestine and in a shop that rents prosthetics, the soldiers would have
        > > examined document after document, and not thrown the files on the floor wi
        > thout
        > >
        > > opening them.
        > >
        > > This was not a whim, or crazed vengeance, by this or that unit, nor a pers
        > onal
        > > vandalistic urge of a soldier whose buddies didn't dare stop him. There wa
        > s a
        > > decision made to vandalize the civic, administrative, cultural infrastruct
        > ure
        > > developed by Palestinian society. Was it an explicit order or one given wi
        > th a
        > > wink? Was it an order or was it the result of permission given to soldiers
        > to
        > > do what they want? Did the order - or wink - come down from the battalion
        > > commander or from the brigadier? Was it from the headquarters of IDF force
        > s in
        > > the West Bank or from IDF Operations? Did it come from the general in comm
        > and
        > > of the Central Command or from general headquarters?
        > >
        > > Either way, the scenes of systematic destruction show how the IDF translat
        > ed
        > > into the field the instructions inherent in the political echelon's polici
        > es:
        > > Israel must destroy Palestinian civil institutions, sabotaging for years t
        > o
        > > come the Palestinian goal for independence, sending all of Palestinian soc
        > iety
        > > backward. It's so easy and comforting to think of the entire Palestinian
        > > society as primitive, bloodthirsty terrorists, after the raw material and
        > > product of their intellectual, cultural, social and economic activity has
        > been
        > > destroyed. That way, the Israeli public can continue to be deceived into
        > > believing that terror is a genetic problem and not a sociological and poli
        > tical
        > >
        > > mutation, horrific as it may be, derived from the horrors of the occupatio
        > n.
        > >
        > >
        >
        > Bedac na polskim forum Karolku,pisz po polsku,bo ja z tego cwierkania
        > twojego,niczewo pojac nie mog,podobnie jak inni forumowicze z Ojczyzny mojej
        > kochanej,hi hi hi !


        jojo,
        To nie jest polski forum, to jest zydowski forum. Bardzo skropulatnie to
        kontrolujecie. Cenzura lepsza niz z Stalina i Berii... Znasz Berie - wasz nowy
        Mojrzesz.
        Exorcist
    • Gość: Paul Prawdziwe oblicze arabskiej propagandy Karolka. IP: *.proxy.aol.com 27.04.02, 03:30
      Karolku glupolku, moj ciemniutki.... "W pierwszych slowach mego listu" pragne
      cie porzadnie kopnac w twoja glowke az by zabulgotalo od twojego wodoglowia, co
      niniejszym z przyjemnoscia czynie, alas! Czemu wojsko "niszczy" files i sprzet
      arabsko-terrorystyczny? Bo z kazdym terroryzmem trzeba walczyc bez wahania i
      skrupulow. Z terrorystami sie nie nagocjuje i nie paktuje. Tak sie sklada
      ze "policja" palestynska jest powaznie zamieszana w dzialania terrorystyczne na
      terenie Izraela. Tak sie sklada, ze wszystkie agencje "autonomii" - nie
      zapominajmy, ze o zadnym panstwie i "narodzie" tu nie ma i nie bylo mowy -
      wspieraja posrednio lub bezposrednio dazenia i dzialania terrorystow, ktorzy
      z "orginalnymi" mieszkancami ziem zwanych Palestyna wiele wspolnego nie maja.
      Bylo o tym na tym forum, w madiach i jest w ksiazkach/publikacjach, wiec dalsze
      tlumaczenie tej nieprzyjemnego dla ciebie i innych nawiedzonych rzeczy uwazam
      za strate czasu. Fakt pozostaje faktem. Dzieci szkolily sie, szkola,
      sztrzelaly i zabijaly, tak samo jak "kobiety i starcy". To dalej nie zadne
      wymysly czy bezsesowne sugestie w twoim i twoich kolegow-przyglupow stylu.
      Mieszkam w kraju w ktorym, jesli np. 14to latek ukradnie samochod i wymierzy z
      broni w policjanta, to ma 99% szans na bycie postrzelonym/zabitym. Tak dzieje
      sie w kraju prawa, jak narazie wolnym od terrorystycznych band. To sie
      nazywa "obrona konieczna" i "stanie na strazy prawa i porzadku publicznego". U
      mnie w kraju jest to policja/state troopers i agencje federalne. W Izraelu z
      racji na zaistnialej sytuacji jest to wojsko z czolgami i lotnictwem. Dla
      ulatwienia nazwe to specjalnie dla ciebie "specyfika zaistnialej sytuacji". A
      teraz zmow paciorek i do lozeczka, marsz......no juz cie nie widze.
      Paul
      • Gość: Karol Re: Prawdziwe oblicze arabskiej propagandy Karolka. IP: *.tor.aei.net 27.04.02, 04:28
        Przeciez IDF to banda szmalcownikow, rabujaca wszystko co pod reke popadnie.
        Palenie, rabunek, gwalty i zabijanie na oslep. SREDNIOWIECZE!!!!!
        • yidele Re: Prawdziwe oblicze arabskiej propagandy Karolka. 27.04.02, 17:18
          przecierz rzucanie bezpodstawnych oskarzen i obelg to potwarz i idotyzm..
          Apropos szmalcowników - to słowo ma jedynie polska konotację..
          • Gość: Paul Re: Prawdziwe oblicze arabskiej propagandy Karolka. IP: *.proxy.aol.com 27.04.02, 17:21
            yidele napisał(a):

            > przecierz rzucanie bezpodstawnych oskarzen i obelg to potwarz i idotyzm..
            > Apropos szmalcowników - to słowo ma jedynie polska konotację..
            Niestety....jak zwykle masz racje. Uszanowanie.
            Paul

          • Gość: Karol Re: Prawdziwe oblicze arabskiej propagandy Karolka. IP: *.tor.aei.net 28.04.02, 02:08
            yidele napisał(a):

            > przecierz rzucanie bezpodstawnych oskarzen i obelg to potwarz i idotyzm..
            > Apropos szmalcowników - to słowo ma jedynie polska konotację..

            Czy to nie jest szmalcownictwo?

            The IDF has given up denying that some soldiers looted - money, jewels and
            video cameras - private homes. That can be explained by officers too weak to
            impose discipline on their soldiers and by soldiers too weak to fight material
            temptation. But the systematic destruction of the data banks was not a matter
            of personal weakness by either officers or soldiers.

            Duza czesc zydow w Izraelu pochodzi z Polski i kiedys nosili pieknie polsko
            brzmiace nazwiska. Bardzo ciekawe jest rowniez to, ze z chwila wyjazdu zydow z
            Polski zaniklo w Polsce szmalcownictwo a odrodzilo sie w Izraelu
      • Gość: JOrl Re: Prawdziwe oblicze arabskiej propagandy Karolka. IP: *.halo.provector.pl 27.04.02, 15:10
        Naturalnie masz racje, Paul. Wojny sluza zabijaniu. Po to sa. Ale problem jest
        inny, prawda, Paul? Jakos dziwnie, ale Israel nie bardzo sobie moze pozwolic na
        to co jest skuteczne. Jakos wiatr w oczy wieje, prawda? A armia walczaca z
        jedna reka zawiazana z tylu, jest na najlepszej drodze do przegrania. A co
        najmniej obywatele kraju tej armii zaczynaja sie zastanawiac co dalej? I, jako
        ze niedawno czesto tam przyjechali aby dobrze zyc, zaczna sie ogladac czy
        gdzies sie nie da wyjechac. I o to tu chodzi.
        A ze teraz macie problemy to moge zrozumiec. Ale pamietam dobrze jak wy
        ustawialiscie do kata tez klamstwami Serbow. I to mi sie bardzo nie podobalo.
        Wiec teraz nie widze dlaczego nie macie posmakowac tego samego.
        Pozdrowienia
        • Gość: Paul Re: Prawdziwe oblicze arabskiej propagandy Karolka. IP: *.proxy.aol.com 27.04.02, 16:48
          Gość portalu: JOrl napisał(a):

          > Naturalnie masz racje, Paul. Wojny sluza zabijaniu. Po to sa. Ale problem jest
          > inny, prawda, Paul? Jakos dziwnie, ale Israel nie bardzo sobie moze pozwolic na
          >
          > to co jest skuteczne. Jakos wiatr w oczy wieje, prawda? A armia walczaca z
          > jedna reka zawiazana z tylu, jest na najlepszej drodze do przegrania. A co
          > najmniej obywatele kraju tej armii zaczynaja sie zastanawiac co dalej? I, jako
          > ze niedawno czesto tam przyjechali aby dobrze zyc, zaczna sie ogladac czy
          > gdzies sie nie da wyjechac. I o to tu chodzi.
          > A ze teraz macie problemy to moge zrozumiec. Ale pamietam dobrze jak wy
          > ustawialiscie do kata tez klamstwami Serbow. I to mi sie bardzo nie podobalo.
          > Wiec teraz nie widze dlaczego nie macie posmakowac tego samego.
          > Pozdrowienia
          JOrl.... Czego "tego samego". To prawda, w Gwatemali przewtot sie nie udal, ale
          CIA jeszcze uczy sie latac po prawie 20 letniej przerwie. Sprawa w Izraelu
          troche przeszkadza, ale pozornie. Jesli chcesz odwrocic ludziom od czegos uwage,
          to daj im cos zeby mogli sie zajac. I macie. A Izrael sobie i tak poradzi jak
          to juz radzil sobie wiele razy. Uszanowanie.
          Paul

    • Gość: Rumsfeld Re: Prawdziwe oblicze operacji IP: *.tnt3.chi15.da.uu.net 27.04.02, 06:12
      Skurwysyny zydy.Przepraszam nie znam bardziej adekwatnego slowa.
      • Gość: Paul Gnoju pod nazwa "rumsfeld", zbiera ci sie..... IP: *.proxy.aol.com 27.04.02, 17:07
        ......ani sie obejrzysz a pewnego dnia stracisz prace, w kasie powiedza ci ze
        twoje karty nie dzialaja, dostaniesz sdjecia jak twoja zona/matka/corka wali
        sie z twoim przyjacielem. Czy warto sobie marnowac zycie? Ale twoje zycie
        prostaku jebany i tak nic nie warte, prawda. Radze stulic morde i siedziec
        cicho.
        Paul
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