Judeo-nazistowskie uniwersytety ,...

IP: *.ipt.aol.com 01.01.05, 22:44
Zbudowane rekoma Palestynczykow , (za glodowe stawki) na skradzionej ziemi z
Judeo-nazistowskim Goebelsami na katedrach . O "profesorach" wiecej jak
przyjdzie czas ,...

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The Hebrew University has been slowly but consistently expropriating lands
and expelling their Palestinian owners in occupied East Jerusalem.

Tel Aviv University (TAU) refuses to date to acknowledge the fact that it
sits on top of an ethnically cleansed Palestinian village. Some of TAU's
departments are also organically linked to the military and intelligence
establishment.

Bar Ilan University not only operates a campus on the illegal colony of Ariel
near Nablus, but has also awarded Ariel Sharon an honorary doctorate for his
role in the March 2002 reoccupation of Palestinian cities, which witnessed
atrocities in Jenin and Nablus as well as wanton destruction and
indiscriminate killings in all the major Palestinian cities and refugee camps
in the West bank.

Ben Gurion University has supported in various ways the slow ethnic cleansing
of the Palestinian Bedouins in the Negev or has witnessed in condemning
silence the decades-old policy of racial discrimination prevailing there. In
one glaring example, its scholars conducted from 1995 to 2000 a confidential
study commissioned by the Health Ministry on the high incidence rate of
severe birth defects and cancer among Palestinian Bedouins living near a
polluting Israeli industrial site. Although the researchers established a
clear correlation between the industrial pollutants and the mortality rate of
the Palestinian citizens in the area
    • Gość: sp;lit Re: Judeo-nazistowskie uniwersytety ,... IP: *.ipt.aol.com 01.01.05, 23:13
      Jeden z nich . Martin Van Creveld ,... Katedra historii , odpowiedzialny za
      interpretacje polityki Judeo-nazistow i ksztaltowanie nazistowskiej swiadomosci
      mlodego pokolenia ,...

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      Israel's foremost military historian, Martin Van Creveld, of Hebrew University,
      advised the Israeli army in 2002
    • negevmc Re: Judeo-nazistowskie uniwersytety ,... 01.01.05, 23:18
      Gość portalu: sp;lit napisał(a):

      > Zbudowane rekoma Palestynczykow , (za glodowe stawki) na skradzionej ziemi.

      Tysiace Palestynczkow tylko czeka aby ich wposcic do izraela, na place budow.

      Ale nie o tym chcialem napisac.
      Nie podales zrodla Twojego tekstu. Daj jakis link moze co ?
      Zbyt ogolnikowe jest wszystko, kazdy moze to napisac.
      Wezmy np. to:

      > Tel Aviv University (TAU) refuses to date to acknowledge the fact that it
      > sits on top of an ethnically cleansed Palestinian village. Some of TAU's
      > departments are also organically linked to the military and intelligence
      > establishment.

      Widzisz Uniwerytet w TA stoi w srodku miasta. Nie wiem o co tu chodzi.
      Czy o to, ze caly TA lezy na jakiejs starej palestynskiej wiosce ?
      No pewnie tak jest. Caly Izrael lezy na palestynskiej ziemi. Najlepiej wziac go
      i wyrzucic. Ale dlaczego tego wlasnie nie piszesz tylko wdajesz sie w jakies
      zabawy z uniwersytetami.

      inny przyklad:
      > Ben Gurion University has supported in various ways the slow ethnic cleansing
      > of the Palestinian Bedouins in the Negev or has witnessed in condemning
      > silence the decades-old policy of racial discrimination prevailing there. In
      > one glaring example, its scholars conducted from 1995 to 2000 a confidential
      > study commissioned by the Health Ministry on the high incidence rate of
      > severe birth defects and cancer among Palestinian Bedouins living near a
      > polluting Israeli industrial site.

      Zgadza sie. Beduini z Negev prawdopodobnie cierpia wiecej na raka niz
      mieszkancy pobliskiej Beer Szewy. Mieszkaja w swoich barakach na pustyni w
      poblizu wielkich fabryk chemicznych. Izrael wydaje rocznie grube miliony na
      programy majace przekonac ich do przeprowadzki. Nie chca. Maja preferencje na
      studiach i w szkolach - nie chca. Gdy jedzie sie tamtedy mozna zobaczyc z drogi
      baraki z blachy faistej. Kolo kazdego stoi Volvo, na dachu kadego antena sat.
      Ale Beduini wola wypasac wielblady.

      Poza tym, to nie jest probelm tylko Bduinow i nie jest to jakies celowe
      dzialanie przeciwko nim. Te same, jeszcze gorsze statystyki dotycza
      uprzemsylowionej Hajfy i calkowicie zydowskich osiedli na polnoc od niej -
      tak zwanych Krayot.

      Problem degradacji srodowiska naturalnego istnieje tu jak we wszystkich
      rozwinietych krajach.
      Nie widze w tym nic bardziej nazistowskiego niz gdzie indziej.

      Jeszcze raz radze Ci zamieszczac linki. Jak sie widzi zrodlo wyglada to
      bardziej wiarygodnie.

      No chyba, ze chodzi ci o bicie piany jedynie.

      Zycze spelnienia marzen w 2005 i w 5765 roku

      • Gość: hehe split - znawca uniwersytetow. po podstawowce w pip IP: 68.214.177.* 02.01.05, 04:50
        debil od malowania zankow i gledzenia. mysli ze jest kims wiecej niz gownem
        imigracyjnym pyszacym sie swoim malenkim sukcesikiem polaczka. hehe on to
        potrzebuje na terapie bo zero chce byc czyms , bez pracy nad soba.
      • Gość: totyle Re: Judeo-nazistowskie uniwersytety ,... IP: *.176.6.85.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net 02.01.05, 08:27
        A coz maja do tego zrodla?ktore i tak znaczenia nie maja bo to krytyka Izraela
        wiec nie do zaakceptowania-prawda?.Jedyny komentarz jaki mozna miec na temat
        splita cytatow to prawda to jest czy nie prawda.
        Ten przychlast hehe to nawet mysli ze to split sam wymyslil wiec on nie ma
        problemu z odpowiedzia na jego post.
      • Gość: sp;lit Re: Judeo-nazistowskie uniwersytety ,... IP: *.ipt.aol.com 02.01.05, 20:17
        Nie nie moge podawac wszystkich linkow , musze zostawic cos dla siebie :)

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        I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that Ben-Gurion erred in expelling
        too few Arabs?

        "If he was already engaged in expulsion, maybe he should have done a complete
        job. I know that this stuns the Arabs and the liberals and the politically
        correct types. But my feeling is that this place would be quieter and know less
        suffering if the matter had been resolved once and for all. If Ben-Gurion had
        carried out a large expulsion and cleansed the whole country - the whole Land
        of Israel, as far as the Jordan River. It may yet turn out that this was his
        fatal mistake. If he had carried out a full expulsion - rather than a partial
        one - he would have stabilized the State of Israel for generations."

        Inny profesor , Baruch Kimmerling , tak to skomentowal ,...

        In response, Baruch Kimmerling, professor at Hebrew University, wrote:
        "Let me extend Benny Morris's logic . If the Nazi programme for the final
        solution of the Jewish problem had been complete, for sure there would be peace
        today in Palestine."

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        Prof Benny Morris , w jednym z wywiadow ,...


        www.counterpunch.org/shavit01162004.html
    • Gość: sp;lit Re: Judeo-nazistowskie uniwersytety ,... IP: *.ipt.aol.com 02.01.05, 09:14
      Ten sam Hitlerek w holenderskim magazynie Elsevier ,...

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      Aber unsere Armee ist von der Stärke her nicht die Nummer 30 in der Welt,
      sondern die Nummer 2 oder 3. Wir haben die Möglichkeit, die Welt mit uns
      zusammen untergehen zu lassen. Und ich kann Ihnen versprechen, daß dies auch
      geschieht, bevor Israel untergeht.

      www.de.indymedia.org/2003/01/39170.shtml
      • Gość: Karl ciekawy facet IP: *.dip.t-dialin.net 02.01.05, 12:25
        Przyznaje ze bardzo respektuje Palestynczykow za ich wole walki i rownoczesnie, ze dlatego czystka etniczna nie jest do unikniecia.
        Duzo ciekawsze jeszcze jest to, co mowi dalej:
        "Mamy kilkaset glowic nuklearnych i mozemy skierowac je na cele znajdujace sie wszedzie, moze nawet na Rzym. Dzieki samolotom wiekszosc miast europejskich jest potencjalnym celem"

        I dalej:
        "Dysponujemy mozliwosciami zniszczenia swiata wraz z nami. I moge panu gwarantowac, ze to sie stanie, zanim Izrael zostanie zniszczony"

        I co teraz moi drodzy? Kto jest rzeczywistym zagrozeniem dla swiata?
        • Gość: sp;lit Re: ciekawy facet IP: *.ipt.aol.com 02.01.05, 17:05
          Ten rowniez , rasista , z programem podobnym do nazistowskiego , aryjskiej ,
          "czystej rasy"

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          In a pamphlet entitled "Israel, Demography 2000-2020" put out by the chair of
          geostrategy at the University of Haifa, Sofer defines the demographic changes
          in the region as an "existential threat." He formulates the plethora of
          implications in three processes that will take place in this region: a decline
          toward becoming a Third World country, a flight of the strong and
          an "existential threat." No less. According to updated figures that Sofer
          presents, in the year 2020 the population of the land of Israel (including the
          territories) will reach 15.5 million; 40 percent of them will be Jews. Within
          the State of Israel in 2020, the proportion of Jews will be 64 percent.

          www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=181001
      • Gość: sp;lit Re: Judeo-nazistowskie uniwersytety ,... IP: *.ipt.aol.com 02.01.05, 14:22
        Znalazlem angielskie tlumaczenie tego artykulu , jak ktos ma problemy ,...

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        From: Ingrid Rimland
        irimland@mail.bellsouth.net
        1-31-3

        "The following interview of the Jewish military historian Martin van Crefeld by
        the Dutch magazine Elsevier was discovered on Indymedia by one of our readers.
        The views and opinions revealed here expose Israeli policy with a frankness
        only possible for a Jew. (...) We recommend that our readers give careful study
        to this interview.

        "The prominent Dutch magazine Elsevier has published a conversation with Dutch-
        Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld. The following has been
        translated from the Dutch [and then from the German]":

        (START)

        "We are destroying ourselves."

        "In Israel a scenario of doom is taking shape."

        Interview with the much reviled Dutch-Israeli Military Historian Martin van
        Creveld

        Professor Martin van Creveld, an internationally known and controversial
        professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, foresees
        only extreme developments for the appreciable future. The methods by which
        Israel is currently combating the Intifada are doomed to failure. The chances
        for peace and the founding of a Palestinian state are visibly diminishing. A
        conversation with a pessimist, who, as he himself says, is reviled in his own
        country.

        Interviewer: Your specialty is war. Is what's going on here war at all?

        Creveld: Certainly, although the Palestinians have no government, no army, and
        no [nationality]. Everything is in chaos. That's why we won't win the war,
        either. If we could identify and eliminate every terrorist, we'd win this
        struggle within forty-eight hours. The Palestinian administration has the same
        difficulties. Even in Arafat decided to comply with our conditions and
        surrender tomorrow, it's virtually certain that the Intifada would continue.

        Interviewer: Are there any similarities on the Israeli side?

        Creveld: If the dispute lasts much longer, the Israeli government will lose
        control of its people. For people will say: "If government can't protect us,
        what on earth can they do for us? If the government can't guarantee that we'll
        be alive tomorrow, what good are they? We'll defend ourselves."

        Interviewer: So Israel is beaten in advance?

        Creveld: On that I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the
        antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not
        losing." That certainly applies here. I regard a total Israeli defeat as
        unavoidable. That will mean the collapse of the Israeli state and society.
        We'll destroy ourselves.

        Interviewer: Is there any point to the recent Israeli military offensive?

        Creveld: This offensive is totally useless; it's only further enraging the
        Palestinians. Perhaps there will be a short-lived calm, but in the end there
        will even more suicide attackers.

        Interviewer: Is there any hope?

        Creveld: If I were Arafat, I wouldn't stop either. I'd only cease in exchange
        for a very far-reaching political accord. And it seems as if we have a
        government [under Sharon-tr.] that won't make Arafat such an offer. If
        elections were held today, the Left would be thoroughly beaten.

        Interviewer: Some maintain that it is Israel's foreign enemies that keep the
        country unified.

        Creveld: That's right. I only wish that there were foreign enemies, but that
        isn't the case. We've fought our external enemies for so many years. Each time
        there was a war, we took a mighty hammer to our foes, and after being defeated
        a few times, they left us alone. The problem with the Palestinian revolt is
        that it doesn't come from without, but rather from within. Therefore we can't
        avail ourselves of the hammer.

        Interviewer: Is the solution, then, to keep the Palestinians outside the
        borders?

        Creveld: Exactly, and right now there's nearly unanimous agreement on that. We
        ought to build a wall "so high, that not even a bird can fly over it." The only
        problem is: where to put the border? Since we can't decide whether the
        territories conquered in 1967 should be included, for the time being we
        improvise a little. We're building a series of little walls, which are much
        more difficult to defend. From a military standpoint this is very stupid. Every
        supermarket has gradually acquired its own living wall of security guards. Half
        the Israeli population is guarding the other half-unbelievable. Aside from the
        fantastic waste, it's almost totally useless.

        Interviewer: Does that mean that the Palestinians stay within the borders?

        Creveld: No, it means that they all get deported. The people who strive for
        this are waiting only for the right man and the right time. Two years ago only
        7 or 8 percent of Israelis were of the opinion that this would be the best
        solution, two months ago it was 33 percent and now, according to a Gallup poll,
        the figure is 44 percent.

        Interviewer: Will that ever be possible?

        Creveld: Sure, since desperate times give rise to desperate measures. Today
        there's a fifty-fifty split on where the border should run. Two years ago 90
        percent wanted the wall built along the old border. That has completely changed
        now, and if things continue, if the terror doesn't stop, in another two years
        perhaps 90 percent will want to build the wall along the Jordan. The
        Palestinians talk of "summutt," meaning hang tough, cling to the ground and the
        soil. I have enormous respect for the Palestinians. They fight heroically. But
        if we in fact want to strike across the Jordan, we would need only a few
        brigades. If the Syrians or the Egyptians were to try to stop us, we'd wipe
        them out. Ariel Sharon is leader. He never improvises: he always has a plan.

        Interviewer: A plan to deport the Palestinians?

        Creveld: I think it's quite possible that he wants to do that. He wants to
        escalate the conflict. He knows that nothing else we do will succeed.

        Interviewer: Do you think that the world will allow that kind of ethnic
        cleansing?

        Creveld: That depends on who does it and how quickly it happens. We possess
        several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in
        all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for
        our air force.

        Interviewer: Wouldn't Israel then become a rogue state?

        Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too
        dangerous to bother." I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have
        to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed
        forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the
        second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I
        can assure you that that will happen, before Israel goes under.

        Interviewer: This isn't your own position, is it?

        Creveld: Of course not. You asked me what might happen and I've laid it out.
        The only question is whether it is already too late for the other solution,
        which I support, and whether Israeli public opinion can still be convinced. I
        think it's too late. With each passing day the expulsion of the Palestinians
        grows more probable. The alternative would be the total annihilation and
        disintegration of Israel. What do you expect from us?

        This interview was conducted by Ferry Biedermann in Jerusalem.


    • Gość: felusiak Split, zacznij sie leczyc IP: *.nyc.rr.com 02.01.05, 17:18
      Antysemityzm to powazna choroba psychiczna. Nieleczona czyni spustoszenie w mozgu
      chorego. Pozbawia mozliwosci racjonalnego myslenia.

      Split ty jestes jak watto. Tego co napisales nawet nie mozna dyskutowac, Szkoda
      nafty.
      • Gość: sp;lit Re: Split, zacznij sie leczyc IP: *.ipt.aol.com 02.01.05, 18:28
        A co ja takiego napisalem ? Ja tylko obnazam ich chora filozofie ,... Dyskutuj
        z ich pogladami , bo sa przyklady , ze sa wprowadzane w zycie , podobnie jak w
        latach 30-tych w nazistowskich Niemczech .

        Masz tu jeszcze jednego ,...

        Dosiego roku !

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        Tego co napisales nawet nie mozna dyskutowac, Szkoda nafty.
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        Better off without ethical codes
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        By Orit Shochat
        Haaretz, March 3, 2004


        Professor Asa Kasher agreed to help the IDF (Israel Defense Forces) formulate
        an ethical code to justify killing those who mastermind, encourage, plan or
        carry out terror attacks - and also innocents who happen to be in the area of a
        targeted hit. Kasher has broadened the concept of "ticking bomb" to include
        anyone suspected by Israeli intelligence of having any connection to a bomb.
        In olden days, this concept was more concrete. It allowed interrogators to put
        pressure on someone who had access to timely information about an attack. Now
        the ticking bomb has gone from being an operational code word to a woolly,
        philosophical term and the intelligence services have been granted a free hand
        in determining who deserves to die.

        But broadening the ticking bomb concept works both ways. Taken far enough,
        Kasher himself, who is on very close terms with those who are working to wipe
        out terror, might be considered a ticking bomb from the Palestinian
        perspective. After all, Kasher talks to those who carry out targeted hits,
        those who give the green light and those who sit and plan them. He meets with
        the ideologues, the initiators and the big chiefs. He advises them, provides
        them with moral support, drafts their defense arguments and soothes their
        consciences.

        In Kasher's eyes, an organized army is always more ethical than a terror
        organization because military operations are designed to hit military targets
        and stay clear of civilians. Anyone who looks at the intifada casualty lists
        knows how wrong he is. Over the past few years, IDF soldiers have had such
        light trigger fingers that most victims of the intifada have been innocent
        bystanders.

        When it comes to targeted attacks from the air, Kasher's moral assumptions are
        even more mistaken. The fact that innocent people will die is taken into
        account during the planning of these operations. It is not just a matter of
        luck or lack of caution. Killing innocents is an integral part of the order. In
        targeted assassinations, writes Kasher, "one is forced to accept there may be
        collateral damage."

        The majority of intifada victims on the Israeli side have also been innocent
        bystanders - older women on the way to visit their grandchildren, an entire
        family lunching at a restaurant wiped out of life. Looking at the statistics,
        it gets even sadder. On both sides, most of the victims have been poor,
        hardworking people - not the ones who drive around in fancy cars. Even the
        restaurants targeted by suicide bombers are cheap diners, not gourmet
        establishments. Someone should do the math one day and find out how many people
        who barely eke out a living pay with their lives in wars.

        If a philosophy professor on the Palestinian side framed an ethical code for
        terror, what would it look like? Ahmed Yassin, in his less elegant way,
        reframes such a code after every terror attack. He says that Hamas prefers
        killing soldiers over civilians, and settlers over ordinary Israelis. But in
        his eyes, all Israelis, or at least the overwhelming majority of them, judging
        from the election results, have been supporting occupation for thirty-odd
        years. They finance the settlements and serve in the army, and even when
        they're back in civilian life, they are potential reservists. So as far as he's
        concerned, they're all ticking bombs in the broad sense of the word.

        Widening the circle of guilt is possible on both sides. Would a bus where 80
        percent of the passengers are soldiers and 20 percent are women and children be
        an ethical target for a suicide bomber? Are the women and children
        merely "collateral damage?" Are the soldiers "ticking bombs," as Kasher's
        criteria would seem to imply? A Palestinian could say that soldiers traveling
        home on a bus will be back on their bases tomorrow, and might conceivably kill
        Palestinians.

        None of this justifies killing innocent people on any side. But the attempt to
        establish an ethical code for the war on terror is no different from laying
        down rules for legitimate terror targets. Ultimately, defining who is innocent
        and who constitutes the brains or the driving spirit behind an act of terror,
        is in the eye of the beholder. The same is true for defining what constitutes
        an ethical target. That is why ethical codes like Asa Kasher's should not be
        written.

        Morality is not something that can be reinvented in keeping with changing
        defense needs. Moral laws are set in stone in every covenant and constitution.
        They are part of every religion. If there is no choice but to kill, better that
        it be done without an ethical code, without some university educator trying to
        take away the pain. Forget trying to justify the death of a 6-year-old who
        happened to be standing next to the Subaru of an Islamic Jihad operative when
        it was hit by an Apache helicopter missile. Better to kill the boy and just
        feel guilty about it, without all the excuses. Let those who embark on such a
        mission know that they do so with only the law and their own consciences to
        rely on - not some prettified, off-the-rack reply brief.



      • Gość: sp;lit Re: Split, zacznij sie leczyc IP: *.ipt.aol.com 11.01.05, 10:25
        Felusiak , my friend ! Jak nie masz nic wiecej do dodania , oprocz tej twojej
        oklepanej formulki , ktora tu waszyscy znamy na pamiec , szczegolnie ci ,
        ktorzy sa po przeciwnej strony barykady z twoimi zio-nazistowskimi pogladamii i
        gotowoscia nadstawiania lba o kazdej porze dnia i nocy w interesie zio-ncow to
        najlepiej sie zamknij , bo przy takich wpisach jak ten , kazda wypowiedz watto
        wyglada jak polerowana perelka .

        Najlepiej , gdybys ustosunkowall do wypowiedzi tych "profesorkow" ,... Ja ich
        nazywam poprostu Goebbelsowskimi obrzynkami ,... Brakuje im kalibru :)

        uklony
        • Gość: felusiak Stalinizm splita je od wewnatrz IP: *.nyc.rr.com 11.01.05, 16:01
          Split chlopie wez na wstzrymanie. Dosyc juz tego exlaxu.
          Profesorowie mowia rozne rzeczy i o to chodzi. Chyba nie chcesz
          zamknac im geb? Do tego mozesz jeszcze dodac publicystow, ktorzy pisza rozne
          idiotyzmy. W USA znajdziesz cala plejade roznych uniwersyteckich czubkow po obu
          stronach politycznego spektrum. Czy myslisz, ze nie ma takich, ktorzy postuluja
          calkowite zniszczenie Iraku? Oczywiscie, ze sa tylko ze oni nie maja wielkiego
          wplywu na polityke. Psy szczekaja a karawana idzie dalej.
          Split, don't you have a sense of proportion?
          • Gość: sp;lit Re: Stalinizm splita je od wewnatrz IP: *.ipt.aol.com 12.01.05, 18:10
            Gdzie , w Europie ? W EU kazde z takich "wystapien" jest podciagniete pod kodeks
            kryminalny i ma swoj artykul ,... Zalalatwili to zio-nazisci grajac na ludzkich
            uczuciach . Jakby tego bylo za malo , wtykaja nosa w w demokratyczny process
            wyboru kandydatow na przywodcow (Austria to nie jedyne miejsce)

            Dobrze wiesz ze jestem ostatnim pod sloncem , ktory dobrowolnie opowie sie za
            cenzura . Moja domena na tym forum jest uwypuklanie zio-nazistowskiego double
            standart , koltunstwa i zaklamania , niby dlaczego mialbym dazyc do tego w
            swiecie gdzie znakomita wiekszosc mediow nalezy do zydostwa ,... Mozesz to
            racjonalnie umotywowac ?

            Wkladajac Europe z USA do jednego koszyka w dziedzinie wolnosci prawa i expresji
            to porownywanie jablek z pomaranczami ,... A moze nie , powoli dobijamy do nich
            Powolanie przez "administracje Busha" (sic) komisji , ktora bedzie sie
            zajmowala wylacznie "antysemityzmem" (na swiecie) jest plusem dla ciebie :)

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            Profesorowie mowia rozne rzeczy i o to chodzi. Chyba nie chcesz
            zamknac im geb? Do tego mozesz jeszcze dodac publicystow, ktorzy pisza rozne
            idiotyzmy. W USA znajdziesz cala plejade roznych uniwersyteckich czubkow po obu
            stronach politycznego spektrum. Czy myslisz, ze nie ma takich, ktorzy postuluja
            calkowite zniszczenie Iraku? Oczywiscie, ze sa tylko ze oni nie maja wielkiego
            wplywu na polityke. Psy szczekaja a karawana idzie dalej.
            Split, don't you have a sense of proportion?
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            Austrian right in shock as Haider resigns

            The Austrian far right in power: special report

            Kate Connolly
            Tuesday February 29, 2000
            The Guardian

            Jörg Haider, the controversial far right leader of the Freedom party, whose
            rise to power has put Austria in turmoil over the last five months, announced
            his resignation last night in a move that stunned Europe and his own party
            members.
            But those close to Mr Haider said his retreat to Carinthia, the province where
            he is governor, and the shift away from the public eye would give the populist
            more room for manoeuvre and the chance to achieve his life-long goal to become
            chancellor.

            The inclusion of the far right in the coalition government led by Chancellor
            Wolfgang Schüssel caused the European Union to freeze bilateral political
            contacts with Austria.

            The US said on Monday that Mr Haider's resignation "couldn't hurt". But the
            state department spokesman James Rubin added: "This doesn't change our
            concerns - the Freedom party itself is still part of the government."

            Politicians are hoping that Mr Haider's resignation will ease international
            pressure on Austria. But Freedom party members who have key roles in the
            cabinet, such as finance and social affairs, are expected to remain. Mr
            Haider's announcement came after hours of meetings over the weekend. Party
            members were said to be "visibly irritated and shocked" by the news. They said
            Mr Haider had announced he "did not want to stand in the way of the working of
            the government".

            Yesterday, he was quoted in a newspaper as saying that the question was whether
            a party leader who "is not in the government should remain party leader".

            The relatively inexperienced Susanne Riess-Passer, who is vice-chancellor, has
            been chosen to take over.

            Fall, rise and retreat of a maverick

            1991 Resigns as governor of Carinthia after controversial remarks praising
            employment policies of Hitler. Claims it was a smear campaign by opponents

            Mid-90s His attendance at a meeting of Waffen SS veterans is revealed

            1999 Makes dramatic comeback when he is re-elected governor. He is seen to be
            using the regional post as a stepping stone to national government

            October His party makes dramatic gains and takes 27% of vote in national
            elections, breaking consensus politics for first time in 50 years. In the
            campaign the slogan Überfremdung (over- foreignisation) was used, a phrase used
            by Nazi propaganda minister Josef Goebbels

            January 2000 Talks between People's party and Social Democrats break down.
            Haider and People's party begin negotiations

            February Agreement signed

            Haider expresses anger at criticism from the EU, saying: 'The fox has not even
            entered the chicken pen yet.'

            He criticises Brussels as a land of paedophiles, and the French prime minister,
            Jacques Chirac, for his 'mistakes'

            In a surprise move he steps down, but is tipped to make a rapid comeback to
            fulfil his chancellorship dream

            ==============================================================================

            Od tego miejsca zaczela sie full-scale nagonka .
            =======================================================

            ADL Expresses Concern Over Austrian Right-Wing Politician’s Holocaust Analogy
            New York, NY, September 11, 1998…The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) expressed
            deep concern over comments made by Jörg Haider, chairman of the far-right
            Austrian Freedom Party (FPOE), equating the fate of the Jewish people during
            the Holocaust to the expulsion of the Sudeten-Germans from the Czech Republic
            after 1945.

            "By comparing these two uncomparable historic events, Mr. Haider minimizes the
            tragedy of the Jewish genocide. We welcome the reactions of the responsible
            politicians in Austria who harshly criticized Mr. Haider for his outrageous
            comments," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director, and Marta S. Halpert,
            ADL Central and Eastern European Director, based in Vienna.

            In an interview on Austrian national television, Mr. Haider was asked how he
            could compare the Nazi genocide with the expulsion. Mr. Haider replied, "Well,
            expatriation, death and any acts directed against human rights should really
            not depend on one's ethnic affiliation. Each of us knows, what people of Jewish
            decent had to suffer. But everybody is also aware of what those driven from
            their homes (Sudeten) had to suffer. I do not want to decide which fate was
            harder - I only want to say clearly and simply: If we talk about reparation or
            restitution - and these are unlimited in time - then this has to be valid for
            all."

            The Anti-Defamation League, founded in 1913, is the world's leading
            organization fighting anti-Semitism through programs and services that
            counteract hatred, prejudice and bigotry.


            • Gość: jarek A wy araby na jakich uczuciach gracie.... IP: *.fastres.net 12.01.05, 18:17
              bo jak istrument do grania wam nie odpowiada to go niszczycie.
    • Gość: Arab-Iman Zwane tez Madrasami...... IP: *.fastres.net 02.01.05, 20:52
      Ale nie wiedzialem ze tam Judaismu ucza, od kiedy nazi-islam sie judaizmem nazywa, moze mnie split to wyjasni.
    • fredzio54 Re: Judeo-nazistowskie uniwersytety ,... 03.01.05, 06:59
      Gość portalu: sp;lit napisał(a):

      > Zbudowane rekoma Palestynczykow , (za glodowe stawki) na skradzionej ziemi z
      > Judeo-nazistowskim Goebelsami na katedrach . O "profesorach" wiecej jak
      > przyjdzie czas ,...
      >
      > uklony
      >
      > ============================================================================
      >
      > The Hebrew University has been slowly but consistently expropriating lands
      > and expelling their Palestinian owners in occupied East Jerusalem.
      >
      > Tel Aviv University (TAU) refuses to date to acknowledge the fact that it
      > sits on top of an ethnically cleansed Palestinian village. Some of TAU's
      > departments are also organically linked to the military and intelligence
      > establishment.
      >
      > Bar Ilan University not only operates a campus on the illegal colony of Ariel
      > near Nablus, but has also awarded Ariel Sharon an honorary doctorate for his
      > role in the March 2002 reoccupation of Palestinian cities, which witnessed
      > atrocities in Jenin and Nablus as well as wanton destruction and
      > indiscriminate killings in all the major Palestinian cities and refugee camps
      > in the West bank.
      >
      > Ben Gurion University has supported in various ways the slow ethnic cleansing
      > of the Palestinian Bedouins in the Negev or has witnessed in condemning
      > silence the decades-old policy of racial discrimination prevailing there. In
      > one glaring example, its scholars conducted from 1995 to 2000 a confidential
      > study commissioned by the Health Ministry on the high incidence rate of
      > severe birth defects and cancer among Palestinian Bedouins living near a
      > polluting Israeli industrial site. Although the researchers established a
      > clear correlation between the industrial pollutants and the mortality rate of
      > the Palestinian citizens in the area
    • fredzio54 Re: Judeo-nazistowskie uniwersytety ,... 11.01.05, 11:03
      tak Erec Israel wolna od arabow amen
    • Gość: STAN ODPOWIEDZ DO WSZYSTKICH ZYDOW NA TYM FORUM....... IP: 69.44.61.* 11.01.05, 16:21

      CO TO JEST JUDEO - CHRZESCIJANIZM ???

      Od lat te ludzkie kanalie, Amerykanskie
      Zydostwo propaguje Amerykanskim Bezmuzgowcom
      ze ich zydowska religja jest Judeo-Chrystian
      religja.

      Z okazji Bozego Narodzenia warto przypomniec tej
      ludzkiej padlinie ze to oni torturowali Jezusa
      Chrystusa, podobnie jak dzis torturuja Palestynczykow.

      Ze to oni zamordowali w okrutny sposob Jezusa
      Chrystusa podobnie tak jak dzis w sadystyczny sposob
      morduja Palestynczykow.

      To jest najwyzszy stopien zwyrodnienia nazywac sie dzis
      Judeo-Chrzescijanskimi wyznawcami.

      PRAWDZIWI WYZNAWCY CHRYSTUSOWI,
      MIEJCIE PRZYJEMNE SWIETA.
      ================================

      ZYDZI, CHCIALBYM WAS POKOCHAC, ALE TO JEST NIEMOZLIWE.
      --------------------------------------------------
    • Gość: jarek I maja racje, jezeli zaden Hebrej w Gazie IP: *.fastres.net 11.01.05, 17:22
      nie moze mieszkac to dlaczego mieliby Araby w Hebrajskiej czesci Israela
      mieszkac, ilu Grekow mieszka w czesci Cypru przez Turkow okupowanej i dlaczego
      okolo 57 tys Turkow moze po tej czesci ,ktora w UNII jest.
      Araby z israela pakowac walizki, Abu mazem na was czeka....dobrej podrozy.
    • Gość: igor Zapomniales o Harvard, Yale, Berkeley, Ann Arbor IP: *.detroit-19rh15rt.mi.dial-access.att.net 12.01.05, 19:23
      i paru innych. Tam tez pelno Twoich wrogow - Zydow madrali. Wszystko to za
      pieniadze ukradzione Arabom i dlatego islamosyny sa takie biedne. Mowie Ci wez
      sie sp;lit za Zydow bo jeszcze ciebie splica na calosc. Ale jaja!!!!
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