No to jak z tym antysemityzmem ?

25.03.06, 04:41


I wy smiecie cos tam wrzeszczec ze swiat was nie lubi ?
Sami jestescie banda rasistow, wiec przestancie lamentowac nad soba.



41% of Israel's Jews favour segregation

· Poll reveals widespread anti-Arab sentiment
· Academics warn of racism 'becoming mainstream'

Chris McGreal in Jerusalem
Friday March 24, 2006
The Guardian


A poll of attitudes among Israel's Jews towards their country's Arab citizens
has exposed widespread racism, with large numbers favouring segregation and
policies to encourage Arabs to leave the country.
The poll found that more than two-thirds of Jews would refuse to live in the
same building as an Arab. Nearly half would not allow an Arab in their home
and 41% want segregation of entertainment facilities.

The survey also found 40% of Israel's Jews believe "the state needs to
support the emigration of Arab citizens", a policy advocated by some far-
right parties in the run-up to next week's general election.

The poll was conducted by a respected Israeli organisation, Geocartographia,
for the Centre for the Struggle Against Racism, founded by Arab-Israeli
academics. "Racism is becoming mainstream," said the centre's director,
Bachar Ouda. "When people talk about transfer [removal] or about Arabs as a
demographic timebomb no one raises their voice against such statements.

"This is a worrisome phenomenon. The time has arrived for the Jewish
population, who experienced what racism is on its flesh, to wake up and
change its way."

Among the poll's other findings was that 63% of Jewish Israelis consider
their country's Arab citizens a "security and demographic threat to the
state". Some 18% said they felt hatred when they heard someone speaking
Arabic, and 34% agreed with the statement that "Arab culture is inferior to
Israeli culture".

An Arab-Israeli member of parliament, Taleb el-Sana, said he was not
surprised by the findings.

"This shows we're not talking about a few people, but rather, a worrying
phenomenon that places question marks over the Zionist movement," he said.

Mr Sana said polls that show anti-Semitism in other countries are greeted in
Israel with a frenzy of denunciations.

"Yet when it happens at their home, they're quiet, and that's why this is a
two-fold failure - they are racist, and they're also not attempting to
address their own racism," he said.

Some Israelis have explained hostile attitudes toward Arabs not as racism but
as stemming from years of conflict and religious differences. But Ahmed Tibi,
another Arab member of parliament, said Israeli politics fuels racism.

"Overall, it pays to be racist in Israel because you don't pay a price for it
and you can always explain it away by a security need and a self-defence
mechanism," he said. "Racists have a long time ago moved from the street to
government benches."

Far-right parties running in next week's general election in Israel have
built significant support with anti-Arab platforms.

The Yisrael Beiteinu party advocates redrawing the border to place about
500,000 Arab-Israelis inside a Palestinian state. Yisrael Beiteinu is
expected to win about 10 seats in the 120-seat parliament, meaning it could
hold the balance of power. Another right-wing coalition is expected to take a
similar number of seats.

Haaretz newspaper reported this week that the Kadima party, favoured to win
the election, decided not to include an Arab in a viable position on its
election list because it would cost the party several seats.




    • bam_buko Re: No to jak z tym antysemityzmem ? 25.03.06, 06:00
      Trzeba poczekac na ocene przez trzydziesta trzecia.
      Zawstydzona podobno przechodzi kuracje odchudzajaca na wzgorzach Golan
      • o_brother Re: No to jak z tym antysemityzmem ? 25.03.06, 06:05
        33oblakana szuka drogi do domu.
        Jezeli uznac te czesc tutejszych polskojezycznych
        za 100% reprezentacji tu na forum to mysle ze
        sadaz by wypadl jeszcze lepiej dla zajoncow
        czyli pewnie 100% segregatorow rasistowskich.
        • bam_buko Re: No to jak z tym antysemityzmem ? 25.03.06, 06:20
          o_brother napisał:

          > 33oblakana szuka drogi do domu.
          > Jezeli uznac te czesc tutejszych polskojezycznych
          > za 100% reprezentacji tu na forum to mysle ze
          > sadaz by wypadl jeszcze lepiej dla zajoncow
          > czyli pewnie 100% segregatorow rasistowskich.

          zeby szukac drogi do domu ,trzeba go najpierw miec(nie ukrasc)......chyba ze
          33cia spi na murze bohatersko broniac eretz przed zaraza i ptasia grypa arabska

          • zbalansowany Oj, to juz dlugo nie potrwa 26.03.06, 00:01
            Professor Says American Publisher Turned Him Down
            By Ori Nir
            March 24, 2006

            John Mearsheimer says that the pro-Israel lobby is so powerful that he and co-
            author Stephen Walt would never have been able to place their report in a
            American-based scientific publication.

            “I do not believe that we could have gotten it published in the United States,”
            Mearsheimer told the Forward. He said that the paper was originally
            commissioned in the fall of 2002 by one of America’s leading magazines, “but
            the publishers told us that it was virtually impossible to get the piece
            published in the United States.”



            Most scholars, policymakers and journalists know that “the whole subject of the
            Israel lobby and American foreign policy is a third-rail issue,” he
            said. “Publishers understand that if they publish a piece like ours it would
            cause them all sorts of problems.”

            In their paper, “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy,” the two professors
            accuse “the lobby” of “policing academia,” intimidating scholars and stifling
            dissent on campuses, mainly through accusing critics of being antisemitic.

            Mearsheimer said that he and Walt expected to be accused of being anti-Israel
            and antisemitic, so they made a point of stating in the study that the
            establishment of Israel was morally justified and that America’s support of
            Israel, in principle, is justified as well. He said the paper takes issue with
            the extent of American support for Israel and the role that the pro-Israel
            lobby plays in pushing for such assistance.

            Asked if the study may have been initially rejected by the American publisher
            because of poor research, Mearsheimer said that the “evidence in the piece is
            just the tip of the iceberg,” and that the study’s observations are supported
            by a large body of evidence. He did concede, however, that none of the evidence
            represents original documentation or is derived from independent interviews.
            All the additional supporting material — just like the references footnoted in
            the paper — is of a secondary nature: citations of books and newspaper
            articles, Mearsheimer said.

            Mearsheimer dismissed accusations and insinuations that people or entities
            hostile to Israel encouraged him and Walt to write the paper or that they did
            so to appease Arab donors to their universities. “We did this independently,”
            he said.

            Mearsheimer said that he and his colleague do not intend to become “policy
            advocates” calling for diminishing the role of America’s pro-Israel lobby in
            foreign policy.

            “We decided to write a really serious piece on what we thought was a very
            important subject and put it in the public domain and hopefully that would open
            up the debate or the discussion in a civilized tone,” he said. “But there was
            no intention to write a piece that was anti-Israel or that would in any way
            shape or form challenge the legitimacy of the State of Israel. That was not our
            intention.”

            www.forward.com/main/printer-friendly.php?id=7550
    • ben_shaprut Zapytaj Żydów. Jestem "czarna owcą", ponieważ 26.03.06, 00:05
      mam pochodzenie w linii żeńskiej, więc mam do czegoś prawo, ale opłakuję
      Palestyńczyków. Nikt z uczciwych Żydów nie pisze już na forum: gdzie jest
      Tomek44 czy Z_Daleka? Pisze jeszcze Dana33, która (rzadko) przejawia zrywy
      uczciwości. Nie pytaj naszych oponentów, bo to po prostu nieuczciwe.
      • ben_shaprut Bez obrazy, ale prawdziwy Żyd jest obiektywny, 26.03.06, 00:23
        Tak nam kazał Pan. I tak czynimy...
        • zbalansowany Re: Bez obrazy, ale prawdziwy Żyd jest obiektywny 26.03.06, 03:15
          Sorry Ben

          zazwyczaj staram sie odroznic syjonistow od innych Zydow, zwlaszcza ze wsrod
          tych ostatnich mam paru ktorych moge nazwac moimi przyjaciolmi. Mysle ze nie
          zawsze udaje mi sie przekazac iz tak jak w kazdym spoleczenstwie sa rozni
          zydzi. Jezeli cie obrazilem, to sorry
          • i-love-2-ski Re: Bez obrazy, ale prawdziwy Żyd jest obiektywny 26.03.06, 03:26
            zbalansowany napisał:

            > Sorry Ben
            >
            > zazwyczaj staram sie odroznic syjonistow od innych Zydow, zwlaszcza ze wsrod
            > tych ostatnich mam paru ktorych moge nazwac moimi przyjaciolmi. Mysle ze nie
            > zawsze udaje mi sie przekazac iz tak jak w kazdym spoleczenstwie sa rozni
            > zydzi. Jezeli cie obrazilem, to sorry

            he,he a mnie tez przeprosisz:)
            • zbalansowany Re: Bez obrazy, ale prawdziwy Żyd jest obiektywny 26.03.06, 03:49
              A ciebie skarbenku za co ?
              • i-love-2-ski Re: Bez obrazy, ale prawdziwy Żyd jest obiektywny 26.03.06, 03:50
                zbalansowany napisał:

                > A ciebie skarbenku za co ?

                za caloksztalt,ja tez mam troche krwi dobrej,to mnie nie lzyj bo cie zbesztam:)
                • zbalansowany Re: Bez obrazy, ale prawdziwy Żyd jest obiektywny 28.03.06, 05:07
                  skarbenku

                  Nikogo "za krew" nie opi.......m. To by bylo nieladnie.
                  Spij wiec spokojnie "na caloksztalcie", i nie boj zaby.
                  • zbalansowany Ten jest obiektywny 28.03.06, 10:49
                    One racist nation

                    By Gideon Levy

                    Contrary to appearances, the elections this week are important, because they
                    will expose the true face of Israeli society and its hidden ambitions. More
                    than 100 elected candidates will be sent to the Knesset on the basis of one
                    ticket - the racism ticket. If we used to think that every two Israelis have
                    three opinions, now it will be evident that nearly every Israeli has one
                    opinion - racism. Elections 2006 will make this much clearer than ever before.
                    An absolute majority of the MKs in the 17th Knesset will hold a position based
                    on a lie: that Israel does not have a partner for peace. An absolute majority
                    of MKs in the next Knesset do not believe in peace, nor do they even want it -
                    just like their voters - and worse than that, don't regard Palestinians as
                    equal human beings. Racism has never had so many open supporters. It's the real
                    hit of this election campaign.

                    One does not have to be Avigdor Lieberman to be a racist. The "peace" proposed
                    by Ehud Olmert is no less racist. Lieberman wants to distance them from our
                    borders, Olmert and his ilk want to distance them from out consciousness.
                    Nobody is speaking about peace with them, nobody really wants it. Only one
                    ambition unites everyone - to get rid of them, one way or another. Transfer or
                    wall, "disengagement" or "convergence" - the point is that they should get out
                    of our sight. The only game in town, the 'unilateral arrangement," is not only
                    based on the lie that there is no partner, is not only based exclusively on
                    our "needs" because of a sense of superiority, but also leads to a dangerous
                    pattern of behavior that totally ignores the existence of the other nation.

                    The problem is that this feeling is based entirely on an illusory assumption.
                    The Palestinians are here, just like us. They will, therefore, be forced to
                    continue to remind us of their existence in the one way they and we both know,
                    through violence and terror.




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                    This gloomy chapter in the history of Israel began at Camp David, when Ehud
                    Barak succeeded in planting the untruth that there is nobody to talk to on the
                    Palestinian side, that we offered them the sky and they responded with
                    violence. Then came the major terror attacks and Israeli society withdrew into
                    a sickness of apathy never before known to it. While it used to demonstrate
                    complete indifference toward Palestinian suffering, that apathy spread and
                    intensified to include weak Israelis - Arabs, the poor, the ailing. From that
                    aspect the current election campaign, more boring than ever, seems almost like
                    an expression of the state of public caring. Nothing can awaken the Israelis
                    from their coma - not the imprisonment of the nation next door, not the killing
                    and destruction that we sow in their society and not the suffering of the weak
                    among us.

                    Who would have believed that in Israel of 2006, the killing of an 8-year-old
                    girl at short range, as happened last week in Yamoun, would barely be
                    mentioned; that the ruthless attempt to expel an Ethiopian with AIDS who is
                    married to an Israeli, just because he is not Jewish, would not raise hue and
                    cry; and that the results of a poll showing that a majority of Israelis - 68
                    percent - don't want to live next to an Arab, did not raise a stink. If in
                    1981, tomatoes were being thrown at Shimon Peres and in 1995, there was
                    incitement against Yitzhak Rabin, now there are no tomatoes, no incitement and
                    not even any election rallies.

                    Nothing can get the Israelis out to the streets, nothing can enrage them. An
                    election without involvement and interest is more dangerous to democracy than
                    any tomato. It is a demonstration of apathy and indifference, which the regime
                    can exploit to do whatever it wants. The fact that there are no real
                    differences between the three main parties, with this one saying nearly the
                    entire country is mine, and that one saying nearly the entire country is mine,
                    is bad news for democracy. The coming elections have been decided already. A
                    massive majority will cast its vote for the racist arrangement that ignores the
                    Palestinians, as proposed by Kadima, Likud and, to a large extent, Labor. None
                    of them tried to propose a just peace; their leaders never said a word about
                    the war crimes and suffering caused by Israel. They'll be joined by the extreme
                    right and the ultra-Orthodox, and there you have it: a nation in which racism
                    is the real common denominator uniting us all. Nearly everyone will say no to
                    peace, yes to the continuing occupation (even if it is in new camouflage) and
                    yes to the total focusing on ourselves.

                    Morality has become a dirty work, and the worst corruption in the country's
                    history, the occupation, was never mentioned. Only one-sided maps, similar to
                    one another, all including the humongous "settlement blocs," a withdrawal based
                    on "our needs," with a separation wall and the frightening air of indifference
                    hovering above it all.



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