do AS'ow historii Anglii

IP: *.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr 01.06.04, 20:44
W 1066 byla bitwa pod Hastings, ktora wygral Guillaume le Conquérant.
Zdetronowal wtedy krola Harolda, ktory nota bene wyzional ducha na tym
polu bitwy.
Czy dynastia ktora panuje obecnie wywodzi sie z linii Guillaume le Conqérant
czy jakiejs innej dynastii, ktora w pozniejszym czasie zdetronowala tego
krola rodem z Normandii.

thanks for your help
    • erwas Re: do AS'ow historii Anglii 01.06.04, 21:24
      nie warto sie tym martwic.
      zreszta, historia Anglii jest wyjatkowo nudna.
      a Harold calkiem nieprzypadkowo "wyzional" ducha na polach Hastnigs. it was
      them Viking Frogs that did it.
      jezeli chodzi o dynastie to bylo ich w Anglii sporo, rozni Tudorowie i Stuarci
      etc., teraz teraz jacys tam niemiecko dunscy grecy zdaje mi sie. Windsor is the
      name. I think. chickenshorts knows. he's British.
      • Gość: baska Re: do AS'ow historii Anglii IP: *.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr 01.06.04, 21:43
        ponoc temu biednemu Haroldowi przebili oko na tym 'pobojowisku' ?
        poor fellow :-)

        z ciekawosci poczekam na 'podpowiedz' jak daleko rod Guillaume'a z wascianka
        Matylda (zoneczka ) panoszyl sie w Anglii;


        • chickenshorts Re: do AS'ow historii Anglii 01.06.04, 22:13
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          > ponoc temu biednemu Haroldowi przebili oko na tym 'pobojowisku' ?
          > poor fellow :-)
          >
          > z ciekawosci poczekam na 'podpowiedz' jak daleko rod Guillaume'a z wascianka
          > Matylda (zoneczka ) panoszyl sie w Anglii;

          William, the Conqueror sounds much better! because... because he conquered!

          www.2hwy.com/eg/w/wm1.htm
          and then:

          www.britannia.com/history/h6f.html
          Well, as kind sir erwas pointed out, it's a long story the English and British
          history and, sure enough, very boring for the Americans since it defies their
          attention span. It's quite fascinating, ACTUALLY.
          But he is right on the Greek admixture of the current royal line.




          • republican Germans in the history of England 02.06.04, 01:37
            As one can see the present House of Windsor originates with George V.
            What is not obvious is the fact that it was created during World War I in
            response to anti-German sentiments. The previous Branswick-Hanower and Saxe-
            Coburg -Gotha Houses were practically pure German in bloodlines.
            Also the Battenberg family (very closely related to Windsors) changed its name
            to Mountbatten(nice translation!)
            R
            • republican Re: Germans in the history of England 02.06.04, 01:41
              republican napisał:

              > As one can see the present House of Windsor originates with George V.
              > What is not obvious is the fact that it was created during World War I in
              > response to anti-German sentiments. The previous Branswick-Hanower and Saxe-
              > Coburg -Gotha Houses were practically pure German in bloodlines.
              > Also the Battenberg family (very closely related to Windsors) changed its
              name
              > to Mountbatten(nice translation!)
              > R

              Speaking of George V, do you know that he and Nicolas II (the last czar of
              Russia ) looked as twins?
              o you know why?
              • erwas Re: Germans in the history of England 02.06.04, 04:11
                > Speaking of George V, do you know that he and Nicolas II (the last czar of
                > Russia ) looked as twins?

                add facial hair to GW Bush and you got triplets. really. do it.
                (know why?)
                • republican Re: Germans in the history of England 02.06.04, 04:35
                  erwas napisał:

                  > > Speaking of George V, do you know that he and Nicolas II (the last czar of
                  >
                  > > Russia ) looked as twins?
                  >
                  > add facial hair to GW Bush and you got triplets. really. do it.
                  > (know why?)
                  Pray , tell me.
                  R
                  • erwas Re: Germans in the history of England 03.06.04, 06:36
                    republican napisał:


                    > > > Speaking of George V, do you know that he and Nicolas II (the last cz
                    > ar of
                    > >
                    > > > Russia ) looked as twins?
                    > >
                    > > add facial hair to GW Bush and you got triplets. really. do it.
                    > > (know why?)
                    > Pray , tell me.
                    > R

                    and the answer is:
                    (according to Burke's Peerage)

                    Bush is closely related to every European monarch on and off the throne
          • erwas Re: do AS'ow historii Anglii 02.06.04, 04:08
            > it's a long story the English and British
            > history and, sure enough, very boring for the Americans

            what makes you think any Americans know British history.

            > It's quite fascinating, ACTUALLY.

            just an endless slaughter, ACTUALLY. they took breaks from slaughtering one
            another to slaughter native Celts, and then to slaughter the French, and when
            they ran out of French to slaughter (the English brought the forests back to
            France, as some medieaval Frog-wag once said) they turned touring the entire
            planet in search of people to slaughter.
            at one time they had a real ball slaughtering the Iraqis, or whatever they were
            called before the British named them that.
            now things have taken a sad turn and the British have to sidle up to their very
            special friends and cousins, the Americans: please, please, can we have a
            little bit of a slaughter, please, we're very, very good at it.
            • republican Brits and Colonies 02.06.04, 04:38
              erwas napisał:

              > > it's a long story the English and British
              > > history and, sure enough, very boring for the Americans
              >
              > what makes you think any Americans know British history.
              >
              > > It's quite fascinating, ACTUALLY.
              >
              > just an endless slaughter, ACTUALLY. they took breaks from slaughtering one
              > another to slaughter native Celts, and then to slaughter the French, and when
              > they ran out of French to slaughter (the English brought the forests back to
              > France, as some medieaval Frog-wag once said) they turned touring the entire
              > planet in search of people to slaughter.
              > at one time they had a real ball slaughtering the Iraqis, or whatever they
              were
              >
              > called before the British named them that.
              > now things have taken a sad turn and the British have to sidle up to their
              very
              >
              > special friends and cousins, the Americans: please, please, can we have a
              > little bit of a slaughter, please, we're very, very good at it.
              right you are friend

              Do you know why Brits colonized so much of the world?
              • chickenshorts Re: Brits and Colonies 02.06.04, 08:12
                republican napisał:

                > Do you know why Brits colonized so much of the world?

                Yes, I do. It all began with the alcoholic beverage depot @ stupidity + greed
                of the French... And it spread from there. Blame it on the French.
                • Gość: baska Re: Brits and Colonies IP: *.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr 02.06.04, 13:55
                  exciting !
                  you know relate ( relating --> cholera wie, jaka forme tu wstawic ! help-me
                  well you know relating english story.
                  very often you ask 'why ?' - I don't now why. I'm unaware of many, many events
                  od the 'albion' story.
                  Fiu, I'm writing in english and I manage to understand myself :-)

                  well why George V ( czyzby to byl ten abdykant dla Wallis ) i Nikolas II
                  Romanow looked alike ? shocking is-it true ?

                  and what about Bush ? what is he doing with these blue-blooded (noble) family ?

                  carry on ... your accounts are very gripping
                  • republican Re: Brits and Colonies 02.06.04, 16:57
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                    > exciting !
                    > you know relate ( relating --> cholera wie, jaka forme tu wstawic ! help-me
                    > well you know relating english story.
                    > very often you ask 'why ?' - I don't now why. I'm unaware of many, many
                    events
                    > od the 'albion' story.
                    > Fiu, I'm writing in english and I manage to understand myself :-)
                    >
                    > well why George V ( czyzby to byl ten abdykant dla Wallis ) i Nikolas II
                    > Romanow looked alike ? shocking is-it true ?
                    >
                    > and what about Bush ? what is he doing with these blue-blooded (noble)
                    family ?
                    >
                    > carry on ... your accounts are very gripping

                    Here are my commnts
                    1. GeorgeV and Nicholas II were first cousins their mothers were sisters,
                    doughters of King of Denmark Cristian IX.
                    George V's mother was Alexandra, Nikolaj's was Dagmar (Maria Fedorovna).
                    2. Brits had to colonize the World because they could not tolerate their home
                    cooking. Been to England lately??
                    3. George Bush is as noble as I am a Vestigal Virgin.
                    .
                    The striking similarities of all three are in very limited intellectual
                    capacity.
                    Regards
                    R
                    • chickenshorts Re: Brits and Colonies 02.06.04, 20:42

                      > Gość portalu: baska napisał(a):
                      >
                      > > exciting !
                      > > you know relate ( relating --> cholera wie, jaka forme tu wstawic ! hel
                      > p-me
                      > > well you know relating english story.

                      Did you mean 'regarding'? As in regarding English history...?



                      > > well why George V ( czyzby to byl ten abdykant dla Wallis )

                      No, that was Edward.


                      republican napisał:

                      > 3. George Bush is as noble as I am a Vestigal Virgin.
                      > .
                      > The striking similarities of all three are in very limited intellectual
                      > capacity.
                      > Regards
                      > R

                      Have a look at this:

                      news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2263945.stm
                      • Gość: baska Re: Brits and Colonies IP: *.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr 02.06.04, 22:31
                        <well you know relating english story.

                        to relate - I found this word in the mini-thesaurus and it means
                        tell, describe, narrate, recount, report ....

                        and I wanted to tell you, Umiecie 'relacjonowac' angielska historie.

                        what about Miss Willis Simpson she was divorced twice ... (kobita z tupetem !
                        sacrée femme ! ) and Edouard VIII was her third husband.

                        but, was he really nazi english king? I've heard say that Wallis was only an
                        excuse to dethrone him ? ( zdetronizowac )

                        • chickenshorts Re: Brits and Colonies 02.06.04, 23:17
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                          > but, was he really nazi english king? I've heard say that Wallis was only an
                          > excuse to dethrone him ? ( zdetronizowac )

                          I think he accepted Hitler's invitation to Berlin

                          They say here, in this article, that:

                          "There is speculation and circumstantial evidence that he was a liaison to
                          Hitler's Germany, but hard proof of the link has yet to surface."

                          www.britannia.com/history/monarchs/mon61.html
                          But majority of the hoi polloi (masy, czern) continue to believe that he was
                          what you said, a nazi king... I think that once he became an outcast, he simply
                          accepted any invitation, even the one by Hitler...
                          • chickenshorts Re: Brits and Colonies 02.06.04, 23:20
                            And congratulations, BTW, on your progress in English. Keep working.
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