Reverend

IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 10.09.04, 23:56
Hello fellows
I have a question about the word Reverend. Is it used to refer to a Catholic
priest as well? or just to a Protestant clergyman?
Thanx a lot for any responses.
    • Gość: me Re: Reverend IP: *.aster.pl / *.aster.pl 11.09.04, 00:51
      Also to Catholic priests.
      • Gość: pran Re: Reverend IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 11.09.04, 01:03
        cheers
        • Gość: wj Re: Reverend IP: *.nyc.rr.com 11.09.04, 05:24
          Aparently me is wrong.
          Reverend pertains only to the protestant clergy while catholics and orthodox
          are fathers and brothers.
          • Gość: gosc Re: Reverend IP: *.va.shawcable.net 11.09.04, 05:50
            Reverend is unfortunately a Roman Catholic title and it's in the same group of
            other presumptuous titles like His Holiness, Beatitude, Eminence,
            Excellency,and possibly others. Just gives all the priests a certain degree of
            respect.I guess.
            • Gość: wj Re: Reverend IP: *.nyc.rr.com 11.09.04, 16:14
              Reverend used before the name of the catholic priest is an adjective.
              - Reverend ( Most Reverend ) Father William O'Connor.

              Reverend used before the name of non catholic clergy is a noun.
              - Reverend Jesse Jackson, Reverend Al Sharpton
              • Gość: Tamtejszy Re: Reverend IP: *.proxy.aol.com 11.09.04, 17:28
                "Wielebny ksiądz..."
              • Gość: gosc Re: Reverend IP: *.va.shawcable.net 11.09.04, 21:08
                Agree.

                There are various usages of Reverend and this one is just another example of
                adding unwarranted admiration and respect to someone who is anything but
                reverend or holy.
                • ampolion Re: Reverend 11.09.04, 21:30
                  Tak jak "Gość w dom, Bóg w dom" nie jest boski?...
    • zegar4 Re: the Reverend... 12.09.04, 01:50
      (no the) Whacked wj:

      "Aparently me is wrong.
      Reverend pertains only to the protestant clergy while catholics and orthodox
      are fathers and brothers."

      "Reverend used before the name of the catholic priest is an adjective.
      - Reverend ( Most Reverend ) Father William O'Connor.

      Reverend used before the name of non catholic clergy is a noun.
      - Reverend Jesse Jackson, Reverend Al Sharpton"


      (no the)Flummoxed Gosc:
      "Agree.
      There are various usages of Reverend and this one is just another example of
      adding unwarranted admiration and respect to someone who is anything but
      reverend or holy."

      ---------

      Pure, unadulterated nonsense.
      There are no two "reverends": a catholic reverend with "the" and a protestant
      reverend without "the."
      "Reverend" is an adjective in any denomination (always means the
      same "deserving reverence") and requires "the" in "the Reverend John
      Smith," "the Reverend Mr. Smith," "the Reverend Dr. Smith," but never "the
      Reverend Smith." "Reverend Smith" or "Reverend John Smith" is unlettered and
      therefore unacceptable. "The" gives the meaning to "the Reverend John Smith"
      because that's the way the article "the" works.




      • Gość: wj Re: the Reverend... IP: *.nyc.rr.com 12.09.04, 04:05
        so who's right ? In it's pure unadultered form.

        I'll accept your verdict in it's pure unadultered form (the).
      • Gość: gosc Re: the Reverend... IP: *.va.shawcable.net 12.09.04, 05:55
        I think there is a common use of "Father such-and-such" for Catholic
        priests...though some I know use the term "Brother" when part of certian
        orders...regardless of clerical state.
        The problem we're running into right now seems to be about spoken and written
        titles. The word "Reverend" ( with all its variations) is a written form of
        address and it's a form of title you will find on an envelope only.

        ex.

        Roman Catholic Archbishop title: The Most Reverend - abbreviation The Most Rev.
        (envelope), verbal address: Your Excellency.

        In commonwealth countries: also The Most Reverend on the envelope, salutation
        form is: Your Grace.

        I haven't found any forms of Reverend usage in verbal address.
        This is where the confusion probably comes from.

        Regardless, I really don't care one way or another.

        • ampolion Re: the Reverend... 15.09.04, 00:50
          "Brother" odnosi się do zkonnika bez święceń kapłańskich i to we wszystkich
          wspólnotach zakonnych. Księdza nigdy się nie tytułuje "brother".
          Skrót Rev, jest stosowany w pisanych adresach skierowanych do księży, ale nigdy
          do księdza, nikt się nie zwraca do niego "Reverend", a tylko do protestanckiego
          pastora.
          • quickly Rev. quickly odpowiada... :))) 15.09.04, 01:15

            "Brother" ma sukienke brazowa.

            "Father" ma kiecke czarna.

            "Rev." Tak piszesz sie na kopercie do jakiego kolwiek kaplana z byle jakiego
            kosciola. Jedno jest pewne - zaden z nich sie nie pogniewa, bo to brzmi bardzo
            ladnie i dostojnie.

            A w rozmowie z ksiedzem zwracaj sie do niego po prostu "Padre".

            I po co sobie lamac glowe?
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