Przekombinować - any ideas?

[jan.kulczyk]

For this beautiful Polish term I cannot seem to find any English counterparts which would be brief, funny and to the point. Anyone?

[ampolion]

Tak, ale to bardzo obszerny temat, czy możesz zawęzić słownikowo ten polski
termin?

[jan.kulczyk]

Nie bardzo jestem w stanie, ale jest on raczej jednoznaczny i każdy polskojęzyczny powinien wiedzieć, o co chodzi.

[kylie1]

I have no clue what it means, JK. Can you write us a single sentence that
contains that word so I can have some idea...thanks...:)

[jan.kulczyk]

OK, my bad, I can see it's not so clear without the context so I'll try to clarify:

"Praktycznie wszystko, o czym możesz pomysleć, możesz umieścić w sygnale budowanej strategii. Pamiętaj jednak, że czasami prostszy pomysł jest lepszy. Po prostu staraj się "nie przekombinować".

Sorry for the Polish - it's not mine. It's just a text I'm working on.

[aga.p.p]

I think "keep it simple" will do:)

pzdr,
Aga

[chris-joe]

overcomplicate?

[kylie1]

Don't overdo it/ don't go overboard (with the ideas), keep it simple/down to
earth...?
:)

[kylie1]

Keep it simple, don't make it an overkill:)

[speedfire]

dont go too far.

[ms.jones]

Sometimes less is more.
Don't overdo it.

Don't overthink.

[jan.kulczyk]

I must admit that none of these conveys the flavor of the good old Polish term, but they're still very helpful and and some I'd forgotten about entirely! Thank you all very much! Admin bless you guys! ;)

[minimus]

Its probably nowhere near it but at least in that direction:
Tried to be a smart ass.

not always legal...

[waldek1610]

word "-kombinowac" means; to arrange something that is not always legal, to
cheat, to make ends meet, to try to beat the system.
The first "prze-" part, means its overdone, or not done right.
Przekombinowac, propabli means to do somethink that was suppose to be briliant
and smart and the end result was not intended...

[easystreet]

Mamma mia! If there's one thing I can't stand, is phonetic writing of bad
pronunciation...somethink et al? GGGGGGGGG na koncu. Check your spelling, Try
editing before you submit, peeeeease!
kombinowac...nie ma dobrego odpowiednika in E. ...choc i w chorwackim tez uzywa
sie w tym podobnym kontekscie. Widocznie to slowianska specjalnosc!

[waldek1610]

Easystreet,
Now I think you need to take a shower and relax. Why do Poles in Poland put so
much attention on grammar, while their conversation skills are so poor? And if
you want to quote others on this forum, just do that. Nowhere in my last post I
can see the frase "something at all" mispronounced. So I hit the wrong key by
mistake, big deal. Don't be childish...

[justa_79]

is there any English counterpart for "kombinować" at all? I thought it is a
Polish speciality ;)

Polish Peoples Republic mentality...

[waldek1610]

no, there is not an english countepart for polish word "kompinowac". Same deal
as with the "zalatwic". Those are the Polish People Republic dinosaurs that
that are used only in Poland. I wished that this mentality of doing shady
bussiness was eradicated from polish psyhe. Because of those
(zalatwic,kombinowac) we have terrible goverment who leads Poland realying on
that type of mentality, instead doing what's right, and in everybodys interest.

[deadeasy]

"przekombinowac" does not exist in the PWN Dictionary (yet?). Let's hope it
will never appear there. If it does - be afraid, be *very* afraid.
;o)

[justa_79]

waldek1610 napisał:
> Because of those
> (zalatwic,kombinowac) we have terrible goverment

I'd put it the other way round - because of our government, we have
to "kombinować" in order to survive in this country...

"kombinowanie" or cheating led to partitions..

[waldek1610]

justa_79 napisała:
> I'd put it the other way round - because of our government, we have
> to "kombinować" in order to survive in this country...

While you doing that you are just cheatting your country and in they way
yourself. By avoiding paying taxes eg; polish nobles and aristocracy devoided
Poland of necessery funds to spend for military, and there you go we have
partitions, Poland is gone. How stupid you got to be not to understand that by
cheating your own country you are hitting yourself on the head.

[ampolion]

"Keep it simple, stupid"? Znasz to?

[nasza_maggie]

What about this

www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/scheme?view=uk
:)
Maggie

[jan.kulczyk]

Thank you everyone! I'm past deadline and had to submit the job already but I did use some of your suggestions (trying to cram up as many as possible in that little sentence so's not to offend anyone..! ;)))

[minimus]

yes, yes, please tell us what was the correct answer!

did you use my input? I think it was the best!

[easystreet]

Juz wczesniej zastanawialam sie nad tym okresleniem, i prosze: sluchajac radia,
natrafilam na cos w pisosence Rasputin, zespolu Bonney M (do dzis dyskotekowy
standard) okreslenie: WHEELER-DEALER, cos podobnego bedzie "wheelin' and dealin'"
takie kombinowanie, knucie, lub nawet podjudzanie... Moze byc?

[jan.kulczyk]

Obawiam się, że określenie wheelin' and dealin' nie do końca nadaje się do dokumentacji programu maklerskiego, choć semantycznie - a zwłaszcza jego druga część - zbliża się do kręgów biznesowych ;) Ale to fajne określenie, dzięki.

[jan.kulczyk]

> did you use my input? I think it was the best!

It was absolutely glorious. I put together something like this: "Remember-keep it simple rather than overcomplicate and go overboard with ideas. And don't be a smartass, stupid!!!"

I think the users will be delighted to see someone actually understands how they usually feel using state-of-the-art trading software.

[kylie1]

>Remember-keepit simple rather than overcomplicate and go overboard with ideas

It's such a great feeling to be validated! A simple thank you will suffice...:)

[jan.kulczyk]

> It's such a great feeling to be validated! A simple thank you will suffice...:)

A simple thank you now goes to Vancouver, Canada ;)!

Although I have this feeling I already thanked y'all ;)

What the heck, you can never be too polite, as my late great great grand uncle always told me.

[minimus]

"Remember-keep
> it simple rather than overcomplicate and go overboard with ideas. And don't
be
> a smartass, stupid!!!"

Briliant!
:-DDD

[ms.jones]

I'm not offended. Not at all sick as a parrot. Or gutted. Fine, use everybody's
ideas except mine. Complain? Not me, sir. I can keep a stiff upper lip and
maintain a dignified silence ;I

[minimus]

But that would be overdoing it. We wouldn't want Jan to overthink it (means
long absence from the forum). Besides sometimes less is more.

Ergo: your idea was also included!

[ms.jones]

You're a kind soul :)

[jan.kulczyk]

I knew I'd forgotten about someone! Darn!!! I promise you ms.jones, you will be given absolute priority in the next tender! In fact, that upcoming tender has already been settled in your favor, whatever the bidders and whatever the bids ;)))

And thank you once again!

[ms.jones]

Thank you! Your offer is most gallant and charming - I welcome it with delight.
It would warm the cockles of your late great great grand uncle's heart, I'm
sure. Of course we are talking 'without prejudice', aren't we, ie arrangements
freely entered into by mois and we don't mean to preempt bids by third parties.
I hope the brief you put together will bring expected results and the project
is a resounding success. Ta ta. :)

[kicior99]

overdrive? slyszy sie czasami.

[asasello15]

go too far, in some contexts

[chickenshorts]

...go into politics in the Polish context. Or become a priest. Same thing, only
less stressful.

[easystreet]

Hey, Waldek! You're out of context, if you haven't noticed. Hope you understand
what I mean by that PHRASE. Yeah, grammar is something I happen to pay attention
TO, if you don't mind. I know about typos and how easy it is to overlook them
(make them often myself), but Waldek, what do you mean by ....in Poland? You
mean you're outside Poland? Well, your English is unfolding. You give new
mwaning to the term "life-long learning". I wish you whatever you wish for
yourself! Regards!

[chickenshorts]

>I wish you whatever you wish for
> yourself! Regards!

Aah, isn't that loverly? I second it. We all wish you meme thing, Waldo!