Why did "English only" turn into "Polish mainly"?

03.08.06, 14:15
    • tuti Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 03.08.06, 14:38

      like for example where?
      (like for example where things are not in english or do not concern the
      language itself? )
    • j23c Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 03.08.06, 15:27
      I guess the Brits be able to start learn polski. There is observed that Polish
      grow one of UK language. There is heard Pol-Englich dialect more frequent than
      other for example pidgin, gaelic or Calcuta-English.
      In the past on Warsaws' tramps were inscriptions „Nur fur Deutche”, in near
      future on Londons' buses will be „Tylko dla mowiacych po polsku”
      Only English / mainly Polish I don't care of it :)
      • nasza_maggie Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 03.08.06, 15:58
        As you may have, or it seems have not, noticed this is a Polish portal.
        There is no obligation to use the english language on this forum, but as it is
        an educational forum you are obliged to keep to subjects that concern the
        English language.

        Questions about translations/chcecking homework and especially advertisements
        (which are moved) are seen a little less sympathetically but at the end of the
        day they concern the language and you never know, you might learn something:)


        Maggie:)
        • waldek1610 Maggie 04.08.06, 06:35
          nasza_maggie napisała:

          > it is an educational forum you are obliged to keep to subjects that concern
          > the English language.


          Maggie,
          Perhaps you want to rewrite the "Mission statement" on the top of English Only
          forum main page, so there is no confusion in the future. It says that ALL
          discussions IN ENGLISH, OR about the language are allowed. As we had a chance
          to find out it is not entirely true.


          > English only (56920) Gazeta.pl: Języki obce

          > "Discussions, debates and conversations -all topics of conversation are
          > welcome as long as they are polite and in English or about the language
          > itself:-)"


          The time proves that this forum is exclusivelly a language study, translations
          and advice forum on how, where to study and so on.

          Great majoriy of Polish folks do not come here for "a small chat in English",
          but simply they have specific question or "bussines" they need help with. You
          could as well call this forum "English translations for free" :)







          • tuti Re: Maggie 04.08.06, 10:44
            after the post above, saying about lazyiness, I feel like I don't know what to
            do. On one hand, I'd like to reply do Waldek's post, but I don't feel
            competent enough to do it in english (well, nobody is perfect!), nor i have as
            much time to do it properly (and so i won't be ashamed of it-you know, checking
            mistakes, thinking of the right words)
            Hovewer- as I already said- nobody's perfect, so..

            " but simply they have specific question or "bussines" they need help with. You
            could as well call this forum "English translations for free" :) "
            in our material world, where every second counts, there won't be many lucky
            enough people, who can spend more than a minute, to learn. I'd love to spend
            more time on the forum ,discussing language issues, but unfortunately I work
            under time pressure (??) and all I can do is write short post/shhort answer,
            which usually is extremely useful, helpful, and makes me feel better, that I
            move on and learn something new every day.
            Like now, work's waiting and it's time to go now!:(
            Last though- about "free translation" - maggie, as well as the top of the
            forum, sends to the TLUMACZENIA forum..which exists separetely anyway..
            I would rather like less all the subjects: DID YOU GO TO X SCHOLL AND MANAGED
            TO LEARN ENGLISH" written usually in polish, as these matters are very
            individual, and 1)not knowing what a particular person needs its difficult to
            say what he;/she needs, 2)aren't school dependent on particular teachers, or
            other things which can change quickly (to mention for example the specific
            people which make the particular class) 3) ppl would learn eng anyway once they
            stop wasting their time on looking for new best ways to be taught (and just
            start DOING ENGLISH, anything but in english -tv, reading, writing (trying
            to). ..so...just so, without any punchline
      • asia23bb Lepiej dobry polski niz straszny angielski N/T 07.08.06, 14:10
    • enlightened Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 03.08.06, 16:32
      Read the very first sentence at the top of the forum page:

      "Discussions, debates and conversations - all topics of conversation are
      welcome as long as they are polite and in English OR about the language itself:-
      )"

      The keyword being "OR" - in other words, it doesn't need to be in English as
      long as it's ABOUT THE LANGUAGE ITSELF.
    • ampolion Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 04.08.06, 05:34
      Problem is that one has to know at least one of the two languages, which not
      always is the case.
    • janis4 Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 04.08.06, 07:18
      As far as I remember, a few years ago most topics at this very forum were in
      English. It seems that people are becoming lazy and do not bother to use
      English if they have a question to ask. That would be a perfect way of language
      practice as well. They sometimes ask about some quite sophisticated expression
      not being able to ask a simple question like: "How would you translate it into
      English?".
      • ampolion Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 04.08.06, 13:23
        Well...
        Check this:
        Somebody writes something in "English", or so he thinks. Should be left as is,
        or should be corrected every time? We do not want bad English to be constantly
        displayed here, do we? Who supposed to do all those corrections?
        I say: do either but well.
        • donat351 Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 05.08.06, 06:32
          jalowa dyskusja. forum jest OK
    • abstrahuj Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 07.08.06, 15:25
      if people who claim they're learning english can't be bothered to write in this
      language even here (beginners absolved), they're bound to fail, but it's their
      problem and why should we care.

      there're some things that the moderator could do, however, like deal with the
      people who constantly clutter this board asking for opinions on some obscure
      language schools that nobody knows or get rid of the threads about the callan
      method, which appear every other day.
      • kicior99 Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 07.08.06, 15:31
        first of all, 'cause any error made by a non-native quickly turns against the
        speaker. When you make any sort of error speaking with natives, they'll show
        you the right way out. Here, yo'll be ridiculed (that works also on french and
        german forums)
        b: don't you think that speaking English with Poles sounds a bit unnatural?
        I've been living in England for a pretty bit of time and I strongly avoid any
        conversation with non-natives, especially when Polish will do
        c: to make the long story short - that's mostly laziness ;)
        • abstrahuj Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 07.08.06, 20:47
          yes, you're right. it's completely artificial. so what?

          some people, even on the intermediate level, have serious intelligibility
          problems and a bilingual forum, where they can always fallback to the mutually
          intelligible language is the only chance for them to fix their mistakes.

          my point is that if i were learning english i would waste no opportunity to use
          it. even if, or rather especially when i knew that my mistakes would be pointed out.

          actually, this is one of the main reasons why most older people don't learn
          languages well. they're afraid of making a mistake so they avoid using a
          language at all--this being the ultimate mistake that prevents them from
          extending their skills altogether.
      • nasza_maggie Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 07.08.06, 16:55
        abstrahuj napisał:

        > if people who claim they're learning english can't be bothered to write in
        this
        > language even here (beginners absolved), they're bound to fail, but it's their
        > problem and why should we care.
        >
        > there're some things that the moderator could do, however, like deal with the
        > people who constantly clutter this board asking for opinions on some obscure
        > language schools that nobody knows

        - you don't know that somebody else doesn't know about a school. As long as
        it's not breaking the netiquette, anyone can ask about a school a hundred times.

        or get rid of the threads about the callan
        > method, which appear every other day.

        - there is a seperate post for that at the top of the board.

        If you feel other users are being lazy because they cannot be bothered to look
        thru a forum and read it but start the same subject again, then who am I to
        stop you in telling them so?;)
        • abstrahuj Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 07.08.06, 21:00
          > If you feel other users are being lazy because they cannot be bothered to look
          > thru a forum and read it but start the same subject again, then who am I to
          > stop you in telling them so?;)

          me myself being a humble part-time visitor here with a suspicious moniker, i
          have little persuasive powers and, besides, i'm lazy but, for a change, you
          could just rub out the dupe threads and they'd eventually figure out they should
          be posting somewhere else.
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