tuti Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 03.08.06, 14:38 like for example where? (like for example where things are not in english or do not concern the language itself? ) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
j23c Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 03.08.06, 15:27 I guess the Brits be able to start learn polski. There is observed that Polish grow one of UK language. There is heard Pol-Englich dialect more frequent than other for example pidgin, gaelic or Calcuta-English. In the past on Warsaws' tramps were inscriptions „Nur fur Deutche”, in near future on Londons' buses will be „Tylko dla mowiacych po polsku” Only English / mainly Polish I don't care of it :) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
nasza_maggie Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 03.08.06, 15:58 As you may have, or it seems have not, noticed this is a Polish portal. There is no obligation to use the english language on this forum, but as it is an educational forum you are obliged to keep to subjects that concern the English language. Questions about translations/chcecking homework and especially advertisements (which are moved) are seen a little less sympathetically but at the end of the day they concern the language and you never know, you might learn something:) Maggie:) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
waldek1610 Maggie 04.08.06, 06:35 nasza_maggie napisała: > it is an educational forum you are obliged to keep to subjects that concern > the English language. Maggie, Perhaps you want to rewrite the "Mission statement" on the top of English Only forum main page, so there is no confusion in the future. It says that ALL discussions IN ENGLISH, OR about the language are allowed. As we had a chance to find out it is not entirely true. > English only (56920) Gazeta.pl: Języki obce > "Discussions, debates and conversations -all topics of conversation are > welcome as long as they are polite and in English or about the language > itself:-)" The time proves that this forum is exclusivelly a language study, translations and advice forum on how, where to study and so on. Great majoriy of Polish folks do not come here for "a small chat in English", but simply they have specific question or "bussines" they need help with. You could as well call this forum "English translations for free" :) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
tuti Re: Maggie 04.08.06, 10:44 after the post above, saying about lazyiness, I feel like I don't know what to do. On one hand, I'd like to reply do Waldek's post, but I don't feel competent enough to do it in english (well, nobody is perfect!), nor i have as much time to do it properly (and so i won't be ashamed of it-you know, checking mistakes, thinking of the right words) Hovewer- as I already said- nobody's perfect, so.. " but simply they have specific question or "bussines" they need help with. You could as well call this forum "English translations for free" :) " in our material world, where every second counts, there won't be many lucky enough people, who can spend more than a minute, to learn. I'd love to spend more time on the forum ,discussing language issues, but unfortunately I work under time pressure (??) and all I can do is write short post/shhort answer, which usually is extremely useful, helpful, and makes me feel better, that I move on and learn something new every day. Like now, work's waiting and it's time to go now!:( Last though- about "free translation" - maggie, as well as the top of the forum, sends to the TLUMACZENIA forum..which exists separetely anyway.. I would rather like less all the subjects: DID YOU GO TO X SCHOLL AND MANAGED TO LEARN ENGLISH" written usually in polish, as these matters are very individual, and 1)not knowing what a particular person needs its difficult to say what he;/she needs, 2)aren't school dependent on particular teachers, or other things which can change quickly (to mention for example the specific people which make the particular class) 3) ppl would learn eng anyway once they stop wasting their time on looking for new best ways to be taught (and just start DOING ENGLISH, anything but in english -tv, reading, writing (trying to). ..so...just so, without any punchline Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
enlightened Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 03.08.06, 16:32 Read the very first sentence at the top of the forum page: "Discussions, debates and conversations - all topics of conversation are welcome as long as they are polite and in English OR about the language itself:- )" The keyword being "OR" - in other words, it doesn't need to be in English as long as it's ABOUT THE LANGUAGE ITSELF. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
ampolion Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 04.08.06, 05:34 Problem is that one has to know at least one of the two languages, which not always is the case. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
janis4 Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 04.08.06, 07:18 As far as I remember, a few years ago most topics at this very forum were in English. It seems that people are becoming lazy and do not bother to use English if they have a question to ask. That would be a perfect way of language practice as well. They sometimes ask about some quite sophisticated expression not being able to ask a simple question like: "How would you translate it into English?". Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
ampolion Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 04.08.06, 13:23 Well... Check this: Somebody writes something in "English", or so he thinks. Should be left as is, or should be corrected every time? We do not want bad English to be constantly displayed here, do we? Who supposed to do all those corrections? I say: do either but well. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
donat351 Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 05.08.06, 06:32 jalowa dyskusja. forum jest OK Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
abstrahuj Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 07.08.06, 15:25 if people who claim they're learning english can't be bothered to write in this language even here (beginners absolved), they're bound to fail, but it's their problem and why should we care. there're some things that the moderator could do, however, like deal with the people who constantly clutter this board asking for opinions on some obscure language schools that nobody knows or get rid of the threads about the callan method, which appear every other day. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
kicior99 Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 07.08.06, 15:31 first of all, 'cause any error made by a non-native quickly turns against the speaker. When you make any sort of error speaking with natives, they'll show you the right way out. Here, yo'll be ridiculed (that works also on french and german forums) b: don't you think that speaking English with Poles sounds a bit unnatural? I've been living in England for a pretty bit of time and I strongly avoid any conversation with non-natives, especially when Polish will do c: to make the long story short - that's mostly laziness ;) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
abstrahuj Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 07.08.06, 20:47 yes, you're right. it's completely artificial. so what? some people, even on the intermediate level, have serious intelligibility problems and a bilingual forum, where they can always fallback to the mutually intelligible language is the only chance for them to fix their mistakes. my point is that if i were learning english i would waste no opportunity to use it. even if, or rather especially when i knew that my mistakes would be pointed out. actually, this is one of the main reasons why most older people don't learn languages well. they're afraid of making a mistake so they avoid using a language at all--this being the ultimate mistake that prevents them from extending their skills altogether. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
nasza_maggie Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 07.08.06, 16:55 abstrahuj napisał: > if people who claim they're learning english can't be bothered to write in this > language even here (beginners absolved), they're bound to fail, but it's their > problem and why should we care. > > there're some things that the moderator could do, however, like deal with the > people who constantly clutter this board asking for opinions on some obscure > language schools that nobody knows - you don't know that somebody else doesn't know about a school. As long as it's not breaking the netiquette, anyone can ask about a school a hundred times. or get rid of the threads about the callan > method, which appear every other day. - there is a seperate post for that at the top of the board. If you feel other users are being lazy because they cannot be bothered to look thru a forum and read it but start the same subject again, then who am I to stop you in telling them so?;) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
abstrahuj Re: Why did "English only" turn into "Polish main 07.08.06, 21:00 > If you feel other users are being lazy because they cannot be bothered to look > thru a forum and read it but start the same subject again, then who am I to > stop you in telling them so?;) me myself being a humble part-time visitor here with a suspicious moniker, i have little persuasive powers and, besides, i'm lazy but, for a change, you could just rub out the dupe threads and they'd eventually figure out they should be posting somewhere else. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś