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15.10.06, 19:23
In which among states of the USA, in your opinion, American English
pronunciation is most similar to British one?
In my opinion in Washington DC, but I'm not familiar with pronunciation in
majority of states.
    • easystreet Re: Similarity 15.10.06, 20:03
      in NONE of them. There is a Boston (Massachussetts) accent which can have SOME
      characteristics of BE as in fathe, teache, with the final /schwa/ instead of -
      r pronunciation, and the Appalachian AmerEnglish which supposedly resembles
      the British Eng. of 400 years ago, but, in essence, American English is THUS
      called precisely because of its non-British pronunciation and some
      idiosyncratic spelling simplifications, e.g., color, honor, etc.


      • kurdelebele Re: Similarity 15.10.06, 20:31
        Btw, what's your opinion on American accent? Are there people on this forum who
        prefer it from the British one?

        As far as I am concerned, American accent is ...accentless! :] I don't like it
        at all, there's no melody etc.
        • mudzyn7 Re: Similarity 15.10.06, 20:51
          It all depends on where do you live, doesn't it?
          And I dont think that you can say, that some spoken language has no accent.
          Silence has no accent, hehe
          When I came here, stare filmy in BE doprowadzaly mnie do furii, ale po latach nauczylem sie i Brytyjskiego sluchac. Nie mowiadz o tym, ze na poczatku, wydawalo mi sie, jakoby ktos im do dupy kolek wsadzil.

      • al.1 Re: Similarity 15.10.06, 22:00
        easystreet napisała:

        > in NONE of them. There is a Boston (Massachussetts) accent which can have
        SOME
        > characteristics of BE as in fathe, teache, with the final /schwa/ instead of -
        > r pronunciation, and the Appalachian AmerEnglish which supposedly resembles
        > the British Eng. of 400 years ago, but, in essence, American English is THUS
        > called precisely because of its non-British pronunciation and some
        > idiosyncratic spelling simplifications, e.g., color, honor, etc.
        >
        I mean only phonetics - e.g.:

        Łora - water
        Lara - ladder
        Dalers - dollars
        Kieds - kids
        Penagan - Pentagon
        Kiri - kitty
        Szarap - shut up
        Fa ma - five miles
        Alver - Oliver
        Kazmedyks – cosmetics
        Gara - gotta
        Tojouda – Toyota

        Slychac wyraznie, ze AE jest zdegenerowanym BE (szczegolnie wymowa nowojorska).
        Natomiast w Waszyngtonie nie slyszalem, zeby w ten sposob wymawiali. Wiec w tym
        upatruje jego podobienstwa do pierwowzoru (BE).


        • ampolion Re: Similarity 16.10.06, 03:57
          al.1: co ty tu wypisujasz za poloenglish? To nie taka wymowa, to twoje polskie
          uszy.
          • al.1 Re: Similarity 16.10.06, 11:33
            ampolion napisał:

            > al.1: co ty tu wypisujasz za poloenglish? To nie taka wymowa, to twoje
            > polskie uszy.

            Oddalem oczywiscie przyblizona wymowe. A konkretniej, to ktore z przykladowej
            listy slow Ci nie pasuja? Czyzby brytyjskie ucho nie slyszalo np. "penagan"?

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    • enlightened Re: Similarity 15.10.06, 20:49
      Boston, MA...
      • republican North Carolina Outer Banks ! 16.10.06, 02:31
        It is hard to believe, but true
        Vide
        "Traits of the Outer Banks Brogue
        The most distinguishing traits of the Outer Banks "brogue" are the
        pronunciation of several vowel sounds, although there are also more subtle
        differences as well. The pronunciation of long i in words like tide and high,
        which sounds like the oy vowel of boy or toy to listeners (the actual
        production is more like the combination of the uh sound of but and the ee sound
        of beet, so that tide really sounds something like t-uh-ee-d) is the most
        noticeable trait, and the reason that these speakers are sometimes referred to
        as hoi toiders. This region is not the only place where this sound is found; it
        is characteristic of particular regions in the British Isles and in the English
        of Australia and New Zealand as well. But in the American South, including
        mainland North Carolina, the pronunciation contrasts sharply with the
        pronunciation of tahm for time or tahd for tide.


        The Outer Banks production of the vowel in brown and mound is also very
        distinctive. The vowel actually sounds closer to the vowel of brain and mind,
        and outsiders often confuse words like brown and brain. In fact, when we play
        the pronunciation of the word brown to listeners from different areas and ask
        them what word it is, they typically say brain.


        Another pronunciation trait, the augh sound in words like caught and bought is
        produced closer to the vowel sound in words like put or book, a pronunciation
        that is quite distinctive among the dialects of American English. The
        pronunciation of this vowel is actually more like its pronunciation in many
        British dialects of English and one of the reasons that Outer Bankers are
        sometimes thought to sound British or Austra-lian. As it turns out, North
        Americans are not the only ones who think that Outer Banks English sounds more
        like British dialects than it does American dialects. At one point in our study
        of Outer Banks English, the well-known British dialectologist, Peter Trudgill,
        visited the Outer Banks to hear the dialect for himself. He took back with him
        a sample of Outer Banks speech and played it to a group of 15 native speakers
        of British English in East Anglia. The listeners were unanimous in attributing
        a British Isles origin to the Outer Banks speech sample; most listeners
        identified its place of origin in the 'West Country'__that is, south-western
        England."
        For those who want to get deeper in the subject:
        www.languagemagazine.com/internetedition/nd2000/wolfram.html
        • al.1 Re: North Carolina Outer Banks ! 16.10.06, 11:22
          Thanks a lot for extremely interesting information.
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