Gość: straus07 IP: *.acn.pl 25.07.03, 14:01 I think my English is over FCE although I don't have a certificate. Should I take this exam or practice a litte and take upper one? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś czytaj wygodnie posty
Gość: VIP-1 Re: what to do IP: *.mt.sfl.net 25.07.03, 14:24 Gość portalu: straus07 napisał(a): > I think my English is over FCE although I don't have a certificate. Should I > take this exam or practice a litte and take upper one? and what do you need a piece of paper for? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: straus07 why IP: *.acn.pl / 10.65.8.* 25.07.03, 15:17 because some stupid recruiters reject my applications only because this piece of paper is missing. The fact that I have worked in foreign department for many years doesn't matter for them. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: VIP-1 Re: why IP: *.mt.sfl.net 25.07.03, 15:19 Gość portalu: straus07 napisał(a): > because some stupid recruiters reject my applications only because this piece VERY STUPID Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: english-test.net You should take the TOEIC IP: *.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 25.07.03, 15:00 You should take the TOEIC-test as it is the number one English Language Certificate worldwide: www.englisch-test.de Or practise your English here for free: www.english-test.net Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
el_presidente666 Re: You should take the TOEIC 26.07.03, 17:39 > You should take the TOEIC-test as it is the number one > English Language Certificate worldwide TOE... what? :) Is it? Could you please provide some explanation to support your opinion? Or did you mean TOEFL? ;) straus07: If I were you, I'd rather go straight to the CAE. FCE is fairly too easy to be considered a distinguishing proof of skills. It's a waste of time and money. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
balbina_alexandra Re: You should take the TOEIC 26.07.03, 19:41 TOEFL and Toeic are two totally different exams. TOEFL is particularly recommended to those who are planning to study in the US, it's necessary there. I've heard a lot about TOEIC as the company where I work planned to introduce it some time ago, but unfortunately the idea somehow didin't take off. We - humble teachers - do not know why, but we suspect some disagreement concerning the price, maybe the examination centre demanded too high a price??? Who knows... I'm a bit disappointed, I think TOEIC would be a nice alternative to Cambrigde exams (I'm slightly bored with them...). As for your question, I strongly advise you to wait, prepare more and take CAE. FCE has become too common, almost everyone has it nowadays and that's why it's stopped being respectable... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: english-test.net TOEIC vs. TOEFL IP: *.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 26.07.03, 19:52 TOEIC and TOEFL are provided and administered by the same organization: EFL TOEIC is more used in the business world whereas TOEFL caters more to people who want to study abroad. Details on TOEIC here: englisch-test.de/?sprache=en Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
el_presidente666 Re: You should take the TOEIC 26.07.03, 22:19 Yes, in fact as soon as I followed the link I realised that these are different things and "TOEIC" is neither a typo nor the way Germans call TOEFL ;) I was simply curious, because I thought I did a little reconnaissance before choosing to pass CAE as the most widely recognised proof of abilities in English, but I have never heard of a TOEIC, which suggests that either (1) I did too little to investigate all the possibilities or (2) this isn't really a popular certificate. Anyway I'm happy that my ignorance turned out :) I plan to pass CPE next year. Does anyone know of any "alternative" certificates (on a corresponding level) that I should consider instead? I'd be grateful for your suggestions in the matter. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: english-test.net TOEIC no. 1 IP: *.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 26.07.03, 23:53 As for the TOEIC - it's the number one English Langauge Certificate with more test takers last year than the Cambridge, LCCI and TOEFL together (over 2.8 Million). The number of people taking the TOEIC test has been increasing by 30% during the last years so it's a question of time until TOEIC comes to Poland. www.english-test.net Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: abby Re: TOEIC no. 1 IP: *.acn.waw.pl 27.07.03, 09:36 TOEIC is basic test of English for professionals (i.e. appreciated by all employees worldwide). The thing is you can't fail it - it just tests the level of your English. Some companies set standards for the no of points required for a given post. If you like to be tested - as far as I know the examination center in Warsaw is at Lang LTC Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: english-test.net TOEIC to enter Poland IP: *.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 27.07.03, 10:34 As far as I know TOEIC is not yet available in Poland. (at least that's what the official Europe website says) Yet, your neighbours Lithuania and Germany offer the test and it's just a question of time until someone in Poland wakes up too. www.english-test.net Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
el_presidente666 Re: TOEIC to enter Poland 30.07.03, 20:13 After the discussion here I sent a question to the ETS regarding TOEIC examination opportunities in Poland. Yesterday, they replied redirecting me to their office in France. I mailed my question once again there and hope that this time I will receive some reasonable response. If I do, I'll let you know. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: english-test.net That'll be very interesting IP: *.dip0.t-ipconnect.de 30.07.03, 20:37 Yes, this will be very interesting as ETS is one the largest organizations in the field worldwide... Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś