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Cos soe popsulo na rosyjskim OP

07.09.06, 09:14
byl pozar, zggilelo dwoch marynarzy.
okret na holu.
ponoc skazenia nie bylo, ale jakos oficjalne rosyjskie komunikaty do mnie nie
trafiaja.

ktos wie jaka to jest jednostka?
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    • michalgajzler Re: Cos sie popsulo na rosyjskim OP 07.09.06, 10:05
      Jednostka projektu 671RTM/RTMK lub jak ktoś woli wg oznaczeń natowskich Victor III.
      Informacja Bellony (narazie krótka):
      www.bellona.org/subjects/1140451820.2
      • michalgajzler Re: Coś się popsuło na rosyjskim OP 07.09.06, 10:18
        OK. Podano o którą jednostę chodzi:
        Victor III (671 RTMK), nr B 414
    • wujcio44 Re: Cos soe popsulo na rosyjskim OP 07.09.06, 11:36
      Znowu zaczyna się nagonka antyrosyjska. Przecież wiadomo, że żadnej awarii nie
      było. To po prostu dwóch marynarzy, jeden pochodzenia łotewskiego a drugi
      kaukaskiego bawiło sie w puszczanie tzw. bengali. A że przed rejsem spożyli
      posiłek w amerykańskiej proweniencji barze MacDonalds, taka zabawa musiała
      zakończyć się tragicznie. W podgrzewaniu atmosfery wokół tego nic nie znaczącego
      incydentu interes mają okreslone koła dążące do poniżenia autorytetu FR co ma im
      ułatwić przejęcie kontroli nad rosyjskimi złożami gazu i ropy.
    • marek_ogarek Re: Cos soe popsulo na rosyjskim OP 08.09.06, 02:34
      Rosyjski ekspert twierdzi ze we flocie polnocnej nie ma kasy na nic poza
      paradami. No coz parady utrzymuja niektorych (zwlaszcza na tym forum) w
      przekonaniu ze flota rosyjska to wciaz potega. I o to chyba chodzi.


      The fire occurred Wednesday night at 8:45 p.m. local time on the 671 RTM Victor-
      III class submarine K-414, “Svyatoi Daniil Moskovsky,” and was extinguished by
      midnight, the Interfax Russian news agency reported.. The Northern Fleet
      submarine, which was on routine patrol in Russia's northern and Arctic waters,
      was anchored off the North of the Rybachiy peninsula, one of continental
      Russia’s most northerly points, near the Norwegian border, when the blaze broke
      out, killing two and injuring one.

      Other Russian naval vessels in the area were sent to the K-414's aid. After the
      fire was extinguished, the two dead sailors and the one injured seaman were
      delivered to a naval hospital. The two who perished will undergo routine
      autopsy's, Interfax said.

      Russian Navy's Commander Admiral Vladimir Masorin, in remarks reported on
      Rossiya Television's Vesti news programme, was perplexed that the sailors had
      not used the portable emergency breathing devices that are apparently standard
      emergency issue for submariners. He speculated that they had simply not had
      time to put them on. He was also quick to point out that the K-414 was long
      overdue for maintenance checks.


      Funding pomp and circumstance instead of safety
      "The Russian Navy and the Northern Fleet in particular are furnished for
      parading themselves in front of Russian President Vladimir Putin, but
      underneath, there is still a dilapidated infrastructure," said Igor Kudrik,
      Bellona's chief submarine expert.

      "Old submarines don't get sufficient repairs, and there is a lack of funding
      for everything - except for the parades."


      The K-414 was graved at the Admiralteisky shipyards in St Petersburg in 1988,
      and put to sea in 1990. In 1994, together with the ballistic missile submarine,
      the K-18, it reached the North Pole.


      "The fire aboard the sub was put out at about midnight," the Northern fleet’s
      chief information officer, Captain 1st rank Vladimir Navrotsky, told the
      Russian news website Gazeta.ru.


      "It had broken out in the electric engineering section. The emergency shut-down
      system of the nuclear propulsion plant was activated. There is no nuclear
      pollution threat," Navrotsky continued. He added that: “there were no strong
      flames as such on board. But the burning caused intense smoke haze that the
      crew could not deal with.”


      Bellona's Alexander Nikitin, a former military nuclear safety inspector and
      head of Bellona's office in St. Petersburg, concurred that the radiation
      situation was "not dangerous." The Victor class III submarine line operates on
      two PWR-type reactors.

      Nonetheless, several of Russia's neighbors to the north complained that Russia
      had been sluggish to notify them of the incident. Admiral Masorin defended the
      decision to keep mum, saying to Interfax that: "We assessed the situation at
      once and took the decision not to notify neighboring states about the fire
      since there was no threat of a radiation leak."

      Bellona's Kudrik said Russia had not stalled, saying the event had been
      reported in a timely manner, and Scandinavia woke up to early news reports
      about the accident.
      • wujcio44 Re: Cos soe popsulo na rosyjskim OP 08.09.06, 11:43
        marek_ogarek napisał:

        > Rosyjski ekspert twierdzi ze we flocie polnocnej nie ma kasy na nic poza
        > paradami.

        Ten "ekspert" jest agentem CIA pod płaszczykiem.

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