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    • Gość: arch.1234 Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 27.02.06, 22:40
      Trochę szary :-) ... ale to sprawa gustu.
      Może już za bardzo nie zszarzeje .
    • bruner4 Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 27.02.06, 22:50
      Owszem, zgrabnie wyglada, ciekawe zestawienie kolorów.
    • Gość: mif Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 28.02.06, 00:33
      Ładna bryła, kolory już mniej.
      • Gość: q Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.acn.waw.pl 28.02.06, 08:55
        dokladnie odwrotnie-kolory super, bryla ujdzie..kocham plaskie, ale on jest za..
        • calo Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 28.02.06, 11:55
          pryzwoity, ale nie nadzwyczajny. aczkolwiek zyczylabym sobie takich
          przyzwoitosci wiecej w naszych miastach:))
          • Gość: pstryk Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.acn.waw.pl 28.02.06, 12:51
            No właśnie. Nie jest nadzwyczajny bo i po co? Nie musi. To tylko mała,
            sympatyczna mieszkaniówka a nie muzeum.
            Gdyby ten budynek powstał w Polsce, zaliczyliby go do I ligi.
            • Gość: słoweniec Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 28.02.06, 13:07
              a w Słowenii do której ?? ;-)
              pzdr
              • Gość: pstryk Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.acn.waw.pl 28.02.06, 13:38
                Racja, to jest po prostu bardzo dobry dom. Wszystko jedno gdzie się znajduje.
                A tu jest jeszcze jeden fajny, słoweński

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                • Gość: bob Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 28.02.06, 19:50
                  Hmmm... a wtym dużym oknie mieszkała Ewa Braun?
    • Gość: aaaaaaaa Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: 212.191.80.* 01.03.06, 00:36
      brzydki
      • rozbudowa Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 01.03.06, 01:34
        to samo powiedziala mi kolezanka z pracy jak jej ten dom pokazalem - spytala czy
        to biurowiec, czy szkola, a moze sklep - bo ludzie w czym takim na codzien
        mieszkac nie powinni - to jej slowa

        Moim zdaniem zas - nic nadzyczjnego - prosta forma - o dobrym budynku decyduje
        nie tylko fasada ale takze co wsrodku. Z ladnosci - tak jak z gustami w
        kobietach - po prostu sie nie dyskutuje.

        R
      • opiniodawca Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 01.03.06, 09:21
        Brzydki?

        Tobie pewnie domki katalogowe podobaja sie najbardziej :-)

        opiniodawca.
        • rozbudowa Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 01.03.06, 11:48
          po co tak mowisz - przeciez wiesz jak mieszkam
          www.fotki.com/budowa
          journals.fotki.com/budowa/
          Ja nie rozrozniam na katalogowe lub indiwidualne tylko na ladne/funkcjonalne lub
          brzydkie/niefunkcjonalne.

          Piotr
          • opiniodawca Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 01.03.06, 13:24
            Czyli Form Follows Function?

            opiniodawca.
            • rozbudowa Jako Laik 01.03.06, 14:20
              Pozwole sobie zacytowac Frank Lloyd Wright “Form follows function – that has
              been misunderstood. Form and function should be one, joined in a spiritual
              union.”
              Architektura to przedewsztkim sztuka urzytkowa. To nie rzezbiarstwo, to nie
              malarstwo, to nie muzyka - gdzie nawet "dziwne" formy moga byc bezurzyteczne i
              dalej pociagc.
              W architekturze mysle ze jest odwrotnie. Najpierw funkcjonalnosc a potem
              skorupa. Buduje sie by urzywac a nie patrzec na to sie wybudowalo.
              Takze nawet "najciekawsza" forma ktora nie spelni wymogow urzytkowych bedzie
              stala pusta, a ta co moze i nie jest "najladniejsza" ale za to bardzo
              funkcjonalna bedzie ciszyc urzytkownika.
              Specjalnie napisalem "najciekawsza" i "najladniejsz" bowiem gusta sie zmieniaja
              i stare jest zastepowne nowym - lepszym, ladniejszym, ciekawszym - codziennie.
              Niektore formy staja sie klasykami - np center hall colonial czy tez domy w
              stylu Wrighta, a niektore style przemijaja na zawsze i odchodza w zapomnienie.
              Oczywiscie ze forma jest wazna - wiadomo ze przy duzej konkurencji i dwoch
              domach ktore spelniaja jednakowo warunki urzywalnosci bardziej przyciagnie oko
              (i portfel) ten ktory ma ciekawsza forme.
              • opiniodawca Re: Jako Laik 01.03.06, 14:33
                Zgadzam sie z Panem.

                Dodam do "form follows function": "less is more" i "less is more but bore". I
                co Pan na to?

                opiniodawca.
                • rozbudowa Re: Jako Laik 03.03.06, 18:05
                  Obecna moda to powrot do przeszlosci - za Budka Suflera (dawno dawno temu) -

                  Wszystko się już dawno gdzieś wydarzyło,
                  Nowe wciąż wraca raz po raz.
                  Nie łudź się że gdzieś tam czegoś nie było,
                  Wszystko już prawie widział świat.

                  Less is more - Ludwig Mies van der Rohe - prawda ale tylko do pewnego stopnia -
                  w pewnym momencie - less is just less - i powstaje stodola a nie dom,
                  laboratorium a nie kuchnia. Prostota projektu bez funkcjonalnosci - stodola.

                  Less is more but bore - nie wiem kto to powiedzial - ale nie koniecznie sie z
                  tym zgadzam - jezeli to less nie jest stodola to moze byc interesujace

                  I tak troche smiechem troche zartem - less is more zostalo wymoslone przez
                  bogatych ludzi zeby biednym nie bylo smutno.


                  Preserving a Modernist Masterpiece

                  By FRED A. BERNSTEIN
                  Published: February 26, 2006 in NYTimes.com

                  LAST summer, Ron Witte and Sarah Whiting, husband-and-wife architecture
                  professors, found themselves head-over-heels for a house in Princeton, N.J., a
                  rare modernist masterpiece in a sea of trite colonials. "So we scraped together
                  every last penny for our offer," Ms. Whiting recalled.

                  HEAD-OVER-HEELS Ron Witte and Sarah Whiting, both architects, plan to make no
                  changes to their midcentury home, acquired last year. The original owners of
                  the house, designed by Thaddeus Longstreth, left behind much of their old
                  furniture.

                  The original owners of the house, designed by Thaddeus Longstreth, left behind
                  much of their old furniture.

                  Ron Witte and Sarah Whiting bought a house designed by Thaddeus Longstreth.
                  But their scrapings were less than the asking price. So, along with their bid,
                  the couple submitted a letter explaining their attraction to the house.

                  The sellers, Estelle and Harold Kuhn, had commissioned the house in 1960. "We
                  had a lot of anxiety about selling a place that we loved so much," Ms. Kuhn,
                  now 79, recalled. But when the Kuhns read the letter from Ms. Whiting and Mr.
                  Witte and met them a few weeks later, "this lump of misery inside of me melted
                  away," Ms. Kuhn said.

                  The Kuhns accepted the couple's offer, although another bidder had offered
                  several thousand dollars more.

                  "The lesson of the story is that words really matter," said Ms. Whiting, who
                  has spent 20 years writing about architecture.

                  She and Mr. Witte bought the house in August, just before they began teaching
                  at Princeton's architecture school. They did not bring a lot of furniture from
                  their last house, outside Boston, but it turned out not to matter. The Kuhns
                  left much of their furniture, the kind of midcentury pieces that now command
                  astonishing prices at auction.

                  The couple already owned a pied-à-terre near Lincoln Center, which is now their
                  full-time residence. "We had everything we needed here," Ms. Kuhn said. "And we
                  don't like clutter." Once their three sons took everything they wanted, the
                  Kuhns asked the buyers for a token payment for whatever remained in the house.

                  They said they were happier thinking the house would stay the way it was than
                  making a few (or even more than a few) thousand dollars selling their pieces.

                  The living room contains chairs by Eero Saarinen and Ludwig Mies van der Rohe,
                  and a large print by Louise Nevelson, all in excellent condition. There are
                  built-in cabinets and original light fixtures. "Most of the room is exactly how
                  it's been for more than 40 years," Mr. Witte said.

                  That is how they plan to keep it. The Kuhns (he was a Princeton math professor,
                  she a community activist) had worked with a distinguished architect, Thaddeus
                  Longstreth, to design every element of the house. When it came time to furnish
                  it, "they responded to Longstreth's choices with equally enlightened choices of
                  their own," Mr. Witte said.

                  "For architects," he said, "it's terribly affirming, exhilarating even, to see
                  that kind of commitment to design. We felt like we were taking on an almost
                  curatorial role."

                  The house treads lightly on its wooded 2.2-acre site. The main level has a
                  large living room with floor-to-ceiling glass, a kitchen with a bubble skylight
                  and a dining room big enough for two large tables. The master bedroom, also on
                  the main level, is only about 160 square feet, which is small by today's
                  standards. But to Ms. Whiting and Mr. Witte, the room's architectural
                  qualities, including walls of wood (instead of Sheetrock) and two facing
                  ribbons of glass, are compensation.

                  Downstairs are three small bedrooms — designed for the Kuhns' children — and a
                  former playroom that is now the office of the Witte-Whiting firm, WW
                  Architecture. (As if by fate, the carpet that the Kuhns left has a design based
                  on repeating W's.) Large expanses of glass lead to terraces on both levels.

                  Mr. Witte, 45, and Ms. Whiting, 41, met in 1987, when they were architecture
                  students at Princeton. Since then, they have taught simultaneously at the
                  University of Florida, the University of Kentucky and Harvard. They are known
                  as theorists. But they are also at a stage of their careers where their designs
                  for actual buildings are beginning to get noticed. (Their proposal for an art
                  museum at San Jose State University has been widely praised and could be built
                  in a couple of years.)

                  When they were offered jobs at Princeton, one of their concerns was whether New
                  Jersey was a place where they could build a practice. But as their own studies
                  had shown, architectural innovation often originates in the suburbs.

                  Houses like the ones the Kuhns built prove the point. In the 1950's and 1960's,
                  Mr. Longstreth, a disciple of the Austria-born, California-based architect
                  Richard Neutra, designed houses for a number of Princeton professors, including
                  the world-renowned physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer. "Back then, especially if
                  you were in math or science, modernism was part of your ethos," Mr. Witte said.

                  Last spring, Stan Allen, the dean of Princeton's School of Architecture, was
                  determined to lure the couple from Harvard, where they had taught since the
                  late 1990's. But Princeton real estate is notoriously expensive. "And Sarah
                  doesn't drive, so we were worried about how far we'd have to be from campus,"
                  Mr. Witte said.

                  Mr. Allen took the couple to see some of the more interesting houses on the
                  market. "Stan would say, 'There's a nice modernist house just around the bend,'
                  and then we'd turn the corner and we'd see a lot where the house had just been
                  torn down," Ms. Whiting said. "The market pressures are that great."

                  They were particularly excited when they saw the Longstreth house. The Kuhns
                  had been spending more time in their apartment in the city. They decided to
                  live there full time after negotiating the long driveway to their Princeton
                  house became a problem. Because the driveway isn't paved, plowing is extremely
                  difficult, the Kuhns explained.

                  That same driveway helped Ms. Whiting and Mr. Witte. The real estate agent,
                  according to Ms. Whiting, said, "The driveway's impossible — make them a low-
                  ball offer."

                  Since Ms. Whiting and Mr. Witte could not afford the full asking price, they
                  did make a low offer of around $800,000. But another bidder offered more, and
                  he was also an architecture lover. (The Kuhns were determined to weed out
                  buyers who would tear the building down.) But the Kuhns didn't know if he would
                  live in the house full time.

                  By contrast, Ms. Whiting and Mr. Witte were committed to making the house their
                  home. Although they don't have children, they do have two cats, Odette and
                  Yvette. "We loved Ron and Sarah," Mr. Kuhn, 80, said.

                  "There was a familial inheritance thing about the whole process," Mr. Witte
                  said.

                  The other night, Mr. Witte and Ms. Whiting had some of their students over for
                  dinner. They cooked on the original appliances (including an electric range
                  with controls that l
    • Gość: Doradzacz Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 01.03.06, 03:23
      Toż to plebania chyba jest...i pewnie w NRD...sprytnie wkomponowano kościół w
      bryłę wielkopłytowych bloków które kiedyś go zasłaniały, niezły pomysł.
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