Gość: pstryk IP: *.acn.waw.pl 27.02.06, 22:33 www.nextroom.at/data/media/med_media/big/1139401961.jpg Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś Obserwuj wątek Podgląd Opublikuj
Gość: arch.1234 Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 27.02.06, 22:40 Trochę szary :-) ... ale to sprawa gustu. Może już za bardzo nie zszarzeje . Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
bruner4 Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 27.02.06, 22:50 Owszem, zgrabnie wyglada, ciekawe zestawienie kolorów. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: mif Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 28.02.06, 00:33 Ładna bryła, kolory już mniej. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: q Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.acn.waw.pl 28.02.06, 08:55 dokladnie odwrotnie-kolory super, bryla ujdzie..kocham plaskie, ale on jest za.. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
calo Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 28.02.06, 11:55 pryzwoity, ale nie nadzwyczajny. aczkolwiek zyczylabym sobie takich przyzwoitosci wiecej w naszych miastach:)) Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: pstryk Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.acn.waw.pl 28.02.06, 12:51 No właśnie. Nie jest nadzwyczajny bo i po co? Nie musi. To tylko mała, sympatyczna mieszkaniówka a nie muzeum. Gdyby ten budynek powstał w Polsce, zaliczyliby go do I ligi. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: słoweniec Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.internetdsl.tpnet.pl 28.02.06, 13:07 a w Słowenii do której ?? ;-) pzdr Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: pstryk Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.acn.waw.pl 28.02.06, 13:38 Racja, to jest po prostu bardzo dobry dom. Wszystko jedno gdzie się znajduje. A tu jest jeszcze jeden fajny, słoweński www.nextroom.at/data/media/med_media/big/1139395816.jpg Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: bob Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 28.02.06, 19:50 Hmmm... a wtym dużym oknie mieszkała Ewa Braun? Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: aaaaaaaa Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: 212.191.80.* 01.03.06, 00:36 brzydki Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
rozbudowa Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 01.03.06, 01:34 to samo powiedziala mi kolezanka z pracy jak jej ten dom pokazalem - spytala czy to biurowiec, czy szkola, a moze sklep - bo ludzie w czym takim na codzien mieszkac nie powinni - to jej slowa Moim zdaniem zas - nic nadzyczjnego - prosta forma - o dobrym budynku decyduje nie tylko fasada ale takze co wsrodku. Z ladnosci - tak jak z gustami w kobietach - po prostu sie nie dyskutuje. R Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
opiniodawca Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 01.03.06, 09:21 Brzydki? Tobie pewnie domki katalogowe podobaja sie najbardziej :-) opiniodawca. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
rozbudowa Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 01.03.06, 11:48 po co tak mowisz - przeciez wiesz jak mieszkam www.fotki.com/budowa journals.fotki.com/budowa/ Ja nie rozrozniam na katalogowe lub indiwidualne tylko na ladne/funkcjonalne lub brzydkie/niefunkcjonalne. Piotr Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
opiniodawca Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom 01.03.06, 13:24 Czyli Form Follows Function? opiniodawca. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
rozbudowa Jako Laik 01.03.06, 14:20 Pozwole sobie zacytowac Frank Lloyd Wright “Form follows function – that has been misunderstood. Form and function should be one, joined in a spiritual union.” Architektura to przedewsztkim sztuka urzytkowa. To nie rzezbiarstwo, to nie malarstwo, to nie muzyka - gdzie nawet "dziwne" formy moga byc bezurzyteczne i dalej pociagc. W architekturze mysle ze jest odwrotnie. Najpierw funkcjonalnosc a potem skorupa. Buduje sie by urzywac a nie patrzec na to sie wybudowalo. Takze nawet "najciekawsza" forma ktora nie spelni wymogow urzytkowych bedzie stala pusta, a ta co moze i nie jest "najladniejsza" ale za to bardzo funkcjonalna bedzie ciszyc urzytkownika. Specjalnie napisalem "najciekawsza" i "najladniejsz" bowiem gusta sie zmieniaja i stare jest zastepowne nowym - lepszym, ladniejszym, ciekawszym - codziennie. Niektore formy staja sie klasykami - np center hall colonial czy tez domy w stylu Wrighta, a niektore style przemijaja na zawsze i odchodza w zapomnienie. Oczywiscie ze forma jest wazna - wiadomo ze przy duzej konkurencji i dwoch domach ktore spelniaja jednakowo warunki urzywalnosci bardziej przyciagnie oko (i portfel) ten ktory ma ciekawsza forme. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
opiniodawca Re: Jako Laik 01.03.06, 14:33 Zgadzam sie z Panem. Dodam do "form follows function": "less is more" i "less is more but bore". I co Pan na to? opiniodawca. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
rozbudowa Re: Jako Laik 03.03.06, 18:05 Obecna moda to powrot do przeszlosci - za Budka Suflera (dawno dawno temu) - Wszystko się już dawno gdzieś wydarzyło, Nowe wciąż wraca raz po raz. Nie łudź się że gdzieś tam czegoś nie było, Wszystko już prawie widział świat. Less is more - Ludwig Mies van der Rohe - prawda ale tylko do pewnego stopnia - w pewnym momencie - less is just less - i powstaje stodola a nie dom, laboratorium a nie kuchnia. Prostota projektu bez funkcjonalnosci - stodola. Less is more but bore - nie wiem kto to powiedzial - ale nie koniecznie sie z tym zgadzam - jezeli to less nie jest stodola to moze byc interesujace I tak troche smiechem troche zartem - less is more zostalo wymoslone przez bogatych ludzi zeby biednym nie bylo smutno. Preserving a Modernist Masterpiece By FRED A. BERNSTEIN Published: February 26, 2006 in NYTimes.com LAST summer, Ron Witte and Sarah Whiting, husband-and-wife architecture professors, found themselves head-over-heels for a house in Princeton, N.J., a rare modernist masterpiece in a sea of trite colonials. "So we scraped together every last penny for our offer," Ms. Whiting recalled. HEAD-OVER-HEELS Ron Witte and Sarah Whiting, both architects, plan to make no changes to their midcentury home, acquired last year. The original owners of the house, designed by Thaddeus Longstreth, left behind much of their old furniture. The original owners of the house, designed by Thaddeus Longstreth, left behind much of their old furniture. Ron Witte and Sarah Whiting bought a house designed by Thaddeus Longstreth. But their scrapings were less than the asking price. So, along with their bid, the couple submitted a letter explaining their attraction to the house. The sellers, Estelle and Harold Kuhn, had commissioned the house in 1960. "We had a lot of anxiety about selling a place that we loved so much," Ms. Kuhn, now 79, recalled. But when the Kuhns read the letter from Ms. Whiting and Mr. Witte and met them a few weeks later, "this lump of misery inside of me melted away," Ms. Kuhn said. The Kuhns accepted the couple's offer, although another bidder had offered several thousand dollars more. "The lesson of the story is that words really matter," said Ms. Whiting, who has spent 20 years writing about architecture. She and Mr. Witte bought the house in August, just before they began teaching at Princeton's architecture school. They did not bring a lot of furniture from their last house, outside Boston, but it turned out not to matter. The Kuhns left much of their furniture, the kind of midcentury pieces that now command astonishing prices at auction. The couple already owned a pied-à-terre near Lincoln Center, which is now their full-time residence. "We had everything we needed here," Ms. Kuhn said. "And we don't like clutter." Once their three sons took everything they wanted, the Kuhns asked the buyers for a token payment for whatever remained in the house. They said they were happier thinking the house would stay the way it was than making a few (or even more than a few) thousand dollars selling their pieces. The living room contains chairs by Eero Saarinen and Ludwig Mies van der Rohe, and a large print by Louise Nevelson, all in excellent condition. There are built-in cabinets and original light fixtures. "Most of the room is exactly how it's been for more than 40 years," Mr. Witte said. That is how they plan to keep it. The Kuhns (he was a Princeton math professor, she a community activist) had worked with a distinguished architect, Thaddeus Longstreth, to design every element of the house. When it came time to furnish it, "they responded to Longstreth's choices with equally enlightened choices of their own," Mr. Witte said. "For architects," he said, "it's terribly affirming, exhilarating even, to see that kind of commitment to design. We felt like we were taking on an almost curatorial role." The house treads lightly on its wooded 2.2-acre site. The main level has a large living room with floor-to-ceiling glass, a kitchen with a bubble skylight and a dining room big enough for two large tables. The master bedroom, also on the main level, is only about 160 square feet, which is small by today's standards. But to Ms. Whiting and Mr. Witte, the room's architectural qualities, including walls of wood (instead of Sheetrock) and two facing ribbons of glass, are compensation. Downstairs are three small bedrooms — designed for the Kuhns' children — and a former playroom that is now the office of the Witte-Whiting firm, WW Architecture. (As if by fate, the carpet that the Kuhns left has a design based on repeating W's.) Large expanses of glass lead to terraces on both levels. Mr. Witte, 45, and Ms. Whiting, 41, met in 1987, when they were architecture students at Princeton. Since then, they have taught simultaneously at the University of Florida, the University of Kentucky and Harvard. They are known as theorists. But they are also at a stage of their careers where their designs for actual buildings are beginning to get noticed. (Their proposal for an art museum at San Jose State University has been widely praised and could be built in a couple of years.) When they were offered jobs at Princeton, one of their concerns was whether New Jersey was a place where they could build a practice. But as their own studies had shown, architectural innovation often originates in the suburbs. Houses like the ones the Kuhns built prove the point. In the 1950's and 1960's, Mr. Longstreth, a disciple of the Austria-born, California-based architect Richard Neutra, designed houses for a number of Princeton professors, including the world-renowned physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer. "Back then, especially if you were in math or science, modernism was part of your ethos," Mr. Witte said. Last spring, Stan Allen, the dean of Princeton's School of Architecture, was determined to lure the couple from Harvard, where they had taught since the late 1990's. But Princeton real estate is notoriously expensive. "And Sarah doesn't drive, so we were worried about how far we'd have to be from campus," Mr. Witte said. Mr. Allen took the couple to see some of the more interesting houses on the market. "Stan would say, 'There's a nice modernist house just around the bend,' and then we'd turn the corner and we'd see a lot where the house had just been torn down," Ms. Whiting said. "The market pressures are that great." They were particularly excited when they saw the Longstreth house. The Kuhns had been spending more time in their apartment in the city. They decided to live there full time after negotiating the long driveway to their Princeton house became a problem. Because the driveway isn't paved, plowing is extremely difficult, the Kuhns explained. That same driveway helped Ms. Whiting and Mr. Witte. The real estate agent, according to Ms. Whiting, said, "The driveway's impossible — make them a low- ball offer." Since Ms. Whiting and Mr. Witte could not afford the full asking price, they did make a low offer of around $800,000. But another bidder offered more, and he was also an architecture lover. (The Kuhns were determined to weed out buyers who would tear the building down.) But the Kuhns didn't know if he would live in the house full time. By contrast, Ms. Whiting and Mr. Witte were committed to making the house their home. Although they don't have children, they do have two cats, Odette and Yvette. "We loved Ron and Sarah," Mr. Kuhn, 80, said. "There was a familial inheritance thing about the whole process," Mr. Witte said. The other night, Mr. Witte and Ms. Whiting had some of their students over for dinner. They cooked on the original appliances (including an electric range with controls that l Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś
Gość: Doradzacz Re: Patrzcie jaki ładny dom IP: *.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl 01.03.06, 03:23 Toż to plebania chyba jest...i pewnie w NRD...sprytnie wkomponowano kościół w bryłę wielkopłytowych bloków które kiedyś go zasłaniały, niezły pomysł. Odpowiedz Link Zgłoś