Ameryka chinskim wasalem!

[minotaurus]

To straszne, jak dalece amerykanscy politycy juz trzesa portkami przed
Chinczykami. Niby chca bronic interesow swego narodu, ale sie boja
Chinczykow, ktorym sie sprzedali. I to ma byc swiatowy hegemon? On jest
silny tylko przeciw bezbronnym Irakczykom. Wstyd! Zamiast natychmiast nalozyc
wielkie bariery celne na chinsczyzne, Amerykanie plaszcza sie i kryguja przed
tym potworem WTO jak robaki. Nie mozna zjesc ciastka i je miec. Albo jest sie
patriota i broni sie interesow wlasnego narodu, albo jest sie slugusem
globalnych korporacji i obcych rzadow. Z Chinami trzeba dzis grac ostro, bo
to ostania szansa Zachodu na przezycie. Za pare lat, gdy Chiny wzmocnia sie
militarnie, juz bedzie za pozno.
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jednostronnosc przekazu

[manny_ramirez]

Talk of Linking China to Latin Trade Pact
By ELIZABETH BECKER
WASHINGTON, June 7 - Representative Bill Thomas, chairman of the House Ways and
Means Committee, said on Tuesday that the House leadership was willing to
sponsor legislation aimed at pressing China to obey trade laws if such a
measure would help win passage of the Central American Free Trade Agreement.

"It's difficult to vote on any trade agreement without getting any movement on
China," Mr. Thomas said at a speech before the United States Chamber of
Commerce.

Anger at China has become the recurring theme of much of this year's
Congressional debate over globalization, outsourcing and trade. The country's
economic behavior has faced increased scrutiny, whether the issue is the flood
of textile exports or the violation of intellectual property rights including
piracy of movies, software and luxury goods.

Mr. Thomas said the legislation he would support would require China to let its
currency fluctuate, a problem that has risen to the forefront.

The United States trade deficit with China reached $162 billion last year, the
largest imbalance ever recorded by the United States with a single country. It
led first Democrats, and now some Republicans, to ask the administration to
push China to revalue its currency, which is blamed for the poor performance of
American exports.

But Democratic leaders who favor free trade but oppose Cafta say that promoting
a remedy for China's currency will not change their minds.

Instead, Representative Benjamin L. Cardin of Maryland, the ranking Democrat on
the Subcommittee on Trade of the House Ways and Means Committee, said any link
between Cafta and China would weaken the United States position.

"We should have had remedies for China's currency problem before now, but
legally you can't link it to Cafta," he said. "And it will only weaken our
position with China."

With Congress moving closer to enacting some legislation on China, the White
House said that such action was unnecessary since the administration was
committed to ensuring that China followed trade laws.

Scott McClellan, the White House spokesman, said the administration thought the
best approach was to let Rob Portman, the United States trade representative,
and other members of the administration make "it clear to China what our
concerns are."

"We're also going to continue acting to make sure that the playing field is
level for our farmers and for our producers and for our businesses," Mr.
McClellan said. Republicans and Democrats agree that the administration does
not have the votes to pass Cafta, the centerpiece of its trade agenda. Mr.
Thomas said he also wanted to add money to the legislation to help the five
Central American countries and the Dominican Republic better enforce and
monitor the pact's labor provisions.

Democrats are unusually united in their opposition to the pact with Costa Rica,
El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua and the Dominican Republic, and
many cite the labor provisions as too weak.

Mr. Thomas said that on the contrary, the labor provisions were the best of any
United States trade agreement. Moreover, he said, the United States needs "to
have low-cost labor" in nearby countries.

What will persuade China to change its currency was debated in at a separate
hearing on Tuesday by the Banking Subcommittee on International Trade and
Finance.

Randal Quarles, the acting under secretary of Treasury for international
affairs, told the subcommittee that the administration thought that its
discussions with China about its exchange rates had been fruitful and that
China was preparing to move on the issue.

But C. Fred Bergsten, the director of the Institute for International
Economics, disagreed and said that it was time for the International Monetary
Fund to step in and enforce international rules prohibiting manipulation of
currency.

Mr. Bergsten said that the United States trade deficit would decrease by as
much as $60 billion by raising the value of the Chinese currency by 25 percent.

But there is serious debate about the economic impact of China's increasing the
value of its currency and Mr. Thomas deplored the fact that China has become
the all-purpose scapegoat.

The Senate is expected to vote next month on a bill that would impose tariffs
of up to 27.5 percent on all Chinese imports if China fails to let its currency
float more freely. The measure, which was sponsored by Senator Charles E.
Schumer, Democrat of New York, and Senator Lindsey O. Graham, Republican of
South Carolina, reflected what its sponsors said was the depth of anxiety over
China's trade practices.

Mr. Thomas said the House could come up with its own bill on currency.

Surveying the economic legislation facing Congress this summer - the energy
bill, Social Security, the highway bill and Cafta - Mr. Thomas raised the issue
of heath care.

He argued that the problems in health care were a direct result of the
comprehensive benefit plans that emerged after World War II, which insulated
the consumer from the cost of services.

He said that such plans had created "ignorant consumers" with few incentives to
ask "what are you doing to me and how much does it cost," but rather, "does my
insurance cover it."

He said he would work to "empower consumers" with more information, and new
incentives through devices like health savings accounts.

Robin Toner contributed reporting for this article.

szkoda nafty w lampie

[felusiak1]

minotaur wie ze dzwonia ale nie wie w ktorym kosciele.
typowy przezuwacz. daj sobie spokoj.

[meerkat1]

USA, drogi minotaurze, nie moga zmusic zadnego kraju do zdewaluowania czy
zreewaluowania swej waluty. Z wzajemnoscia.

USA, moga natomiast, idac sladem UE, wprowadzic taryfy i limity (quotas) na
konkretne chinskie artykuly eksportowe i pozostawic rezymowi w Pekinie decyzje
co jest dlan lepsze.

O ile wiem, rezym ten juz od pewnego czasu, w swietle grozby sankcji, rozwaza
czesciowe uwolnienie kursu juana jeszcze w tym roku.

NB Zdaniem ekspertow walutowych kurs juana zanizony jest nie o 25%, ale o co
najmniej 60%.

Reasumując

[hummer]

meerkat1 napisał:
> NB Zdaniem ekspertow walutowych kurs juana zanizony jest nie o 25%, ale o co
> najmniej 60%.

1. Prawdziwe PKB Chin wynosi najmniej 160% obecnego :-)
2. Kto każe patriotycznym Amerykanom kupować u Chińczyków?
3. Amerykanie mogą zdewaluować swojego dolara o najmniej 60% i będzie po problemie.

szkoda Ameryki, za glupote i chciwosc sie placi

[minotaurus]

Oczywiscie, ze rzad USA nie moze zmusic Chin do dewaluacji swojej waluty, ale
powinnien i MUSI, jesli jest rzadem swojego kraju, natychmiast nalozyc wielkie
cla zaporowe na chinszczyzne, zyby ona byla drozsza od towarow amrykanskich,
wtedy odrodzi sie przemysl w USA. Dla mnie jest skandalem i przejawem zdrady
wlasnego narodu, ze rzad amerykanski jeszcze tego nie dokonal i nadal kryguje
sie i przed WTO i lize jego stopy (delikatnie mowiac:). WTO to produkt
kretynskich i schizofrenicznych umyslow amrykanskich korporacji. W swiecie tak
zroznicowanym jak nasz, nie moze byc wolnego handlu, bo to musi doprowadzic do
tragedii na wielka skale - wszedzie. I doprowadzilo do zapasci Zachodu.
Wymiana handlowa musi byc ograniczona i kontrolowana. Amerykanie nie maja
wyboru, bo w ich sklepach wszystko teraz jest chinskie poza ohydnym
przemyslowym jedzeniem. Teraz dopiero starch ogarnal politykow amerykanskich
(slugusow korporacji), ze Chiny blyskawicznie staja sie nie tylko potega
przemyslowa, ale i militarna i to stalo sie niestrawne dla niektorych. Podczas
gdy Amerykanskie wojska zajmuja sie dewastowaniem Iraku, Chiny juz zdobywaja
dominacje ekonomiczna w Ameryce poludniowej. Mysle, ze czeka nas wkrotce
najstraszniejsza wojna w historii ludzkosci - amerykansko-chinska, a
najsmutniejsze jest to, ze chinskiego smoka wykreowala Ameryka. Moze zreszta
jest to w interesie biznesu zbrojeniowego tego kraju, w koncu oni sa biznesie
zabijania.