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    • strikep Cala Europa nie znosi juden, nikt ich tu nie trzym 12.01.08, 08:18
    • altspringe Tak, to propagandysta nie warty splunięcia 12.01.08, 08:18
      Typowa propagandowa publicystyka. Też gdybym chciał i był przesycony nienawiścią
      jak ten tam Gross, mógłbym napisać książkę uogólniającą i oskarżającą cały
      naród, tyle że naród żydowski. Opierając się na prawdziwych zdarzeniach np z
      1939 roku kiedy to zdarzało się, że gminy żydowskie witały uroczyście
      wkraczający wehrmacht, i na znanych faktach na wschodzie, gdy Żydzi tak
      entuzjastycznie witali wkraczających Rosjan a potem współpracowali z nimi przy
      wyłapywaniu Polaków na zsyłki, mógłbym wzorem Grossa napisać książkę o wielkiej
      zdradzie obciążającej cały naród. Albo o "zbrodniach narodu żydowskiego" tak
      licznie reprezentowanego w organach bezpieczeństwa po wojnie. Mógłbym, ale nie
      napiszę bo nie jestem sterowanym politycznie propagandystą, do tego osobiście
      przesiąkniętym nienawiścią jak rzeczony Gross. I oddzielam fakty od
      interpretacji. I wiem, że rzeczywistość społeczna to złożone zjawisko. A tak
      nawiasem, ja na miejscu władz anulowałbym mu obywatelstwo polskie (jeśli takowe
      posiada) i nie wpuszczałbym do kraju. Niech sobie rzyga tą swoją nienawiścią za
      oceanem bądź gdziekolwiek indziej.
      • strikep Re: Tak, to propagandysta nie warty splunięcia 12.01.08, 08:24
        altspringe napisał:

        > Typowa propagandowa publicystyka. Też gdybym chciał i był
        przesycony nienawiści
        > ą
        > jak ten tam Gross, mógłbym napisać książkę uogólniającą i
        oskarżającą cały
        > naród, tyle że naród żydowski. Opierając się na prawdziwych
        zdarzeniach np z
        > 1939 roku kiedy to zdarzało się, że gminy żydowskie witały
        uroczyście
        > wkraczający wehrmacht, i na znanych faktach na wschodzie, gdy
        Żydzi tak
        > entuzjastycznie witali wkraczających Rosjan a potem współpracowali
        z nimi przy
        > wyłapywaniu Polaków na zsyłki, mógłbym wzorem Grossa napisać
        książkę o wielkiej
        > zdradzie obciążającej cały naród.
    • highalt "Lucky Larry" Silverstein 12.01.08, 08:18
      <b>You’ve got to be lucky to make $4 Billion killing on a 6-month investment of
      $124 Million</b>

      Larry Silverstein is the New York property tycoon who purchased the entire WTC
      complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That was the first time in its
      33-year history the complex had EVER changed ownership.

      Mr. Silverstein’s first order of business as the new owner was to change the
      company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security company he
      hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, was
      on its board of directors, and Marvin’s cousin, Wirt Walker III, was its CEO.
      According to public records, not only did Securacom provide electronic security
      for the World Trade Center, it also covered Dulles International Airport and
      United Airlines — two key players in the 9/11 attacks.

      The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also
      linked for many years to the Bush family. KuwAm has been linked to the Bush
      family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the
      Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.

      Now, consider: The members of a small cabal owned the WTC complex, controlled
      its electronic security, and also controlled the security not only for one of
      the airlines whose aircraft were hijacked on 9/11, but the airport from which
      they originated.

      Another little “coincidence”
      • cebaryka Re: "Lucky Larry" i 2000 braci 12.01.08, 11:43
        którzy 11/9 zamiast do pracy w WTC poszli do doktora
    • highalt Jews, and only Jews, for hire 12.01.08, 08:19
      Court backs Jewish Community Center's right to fire employee over Jews for Jesus
      link

      A federal court ruling that allowed a JCC to fire an employee who attended a
      Jews for Jews event could serve as a broader legal guide for Jewish institutions
      that want to reserve the right to hire only Jews for various positions

      Some Jewish institutions may have their own "road map" on hiring practices after
      a U.S. federal court ruled that a Pennsylvania JCC had the right to dismiss an
      employee over her participation in a Jews for Jesus event.

      Linda LeBoon, an Evangelical Christian, had sued the Lancaster JCC claiming that
      she was fired in 2002 as its bookkeeper for attending a Jews for Jesus event.

      The JCC, LeBoon argued, was a center for Jewish culture and therefore did not
      qualify for the exemption in the 1964 Civil Rights Act that allows religious
      organizations to discriminate on the basis of religion when it comes to hiring.

      But last month the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals voted 2-1 to uphold a
      lower-court decision that the JCC is indeed a "religious corporation,
      organization, or institution" and had the right to dismiss an employee over his
      or her religious activities.

      "If they would have lost this case," said Marc Stern, general counsel of the
      American Jewish Congress, "it would have meant that someone from Jews for Jesus
      could have come into a Jewish organization and could have had a prominent
      position, and you couldn't have done anything about it legally. That would have
      been a catastrophe."

      In addition to ensuring the right to dismiss employees over affiliations with
      Messianic groups, the ruling could serve as a broader legal guide for
      non-synagogue Jewish institutions, like JCCs and federations, that want to
      reserve the right to insist on hiring Jews for top leadership posts and other jobs.

      "This case provides a road map for other JCCs and organizations that have some
      preference for hiring Jews in particular positions to qualify for this
      exemption," Stern said. "It has not always been self evident that they have the
      right to do so."

      While Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits employment discrimination
      based on race, color, religion, sex or national origin, Section 702 of the act
      states that parochial schools and houses of worship are exempt and may hire
      based on religion.

      There has long been a debate about whether organizations affiliated with
      religious groups, such as camps, nursing homes, social service agencies and
      community centers, were afforded the same right to discriminate in hiring.

      LeBoon argued that because the Lancaster JCC had non-Jewish members, rented
      space to other religious organizations and held generally secular activities,
      the institution was not a religious institution. Further, she argued, the JCC
      was not financially or administratively tied to a synagogue.

      The appeals court in Philadelphia ruled, however, that the JCC was entitled to
      the exemption because "during the period under scrutiny, its structures and
      purposes were primarily religious."

      Drawing on precedents, the court compiled a list of nine criteria to help
      determine what constitutes a religious institution. Among the questions were: Is
      the institution a not for profit? Does it offer a secular product? Does it have
      a stated religious purpose? Does any religious entity participate in its
      management? Does it include religious instruction? Is it made up of coreligionists?

      In LeBoon v. Lancaster Jewish Community Center Association, the court determined
      that the JCC did have a Jewish mission
    • highalt Quotes About Jews By Jews 12.01.08, 08:19
      "The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud." - Michael Rodkinson, in preface
      of Babylonian Talmud, page XI.

      "The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart's blood of the Jewish religion.
      Whatever laws, customs, or ceremonies we observe-whether we are Orthodox,
      Conservative, Reform, or merely spasmodic sentimentalists-we follow the Talmud.
      It is our common law." - Herman Wouk, This is My God.

      "What is the basis of Judaism? A practical passion and greed for profit. To what
      can we reduce his (the Jew's) religious worship? To extortion. What is his real
      God? Cash!" - Karl Marx, founder of Communism, quoted in the British Guardian,
      July-August, 1924.

      "Jewish history has been tragic to the Jews and no less tragic to the
      neighboring nations who have suffered them. Our major vice of old as of today is
      parasitism. We are a people of vultures living on the labor and good fortune of
      the rest of the world." - Samuel Roth, Jews Must Live, page 18.

      "The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair
      and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination
      over all other people." - Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919. "The governments of
      the peoples included in this world republic, with the aid of the victorious
      proletariat, all will fall without difficulty into Jewish hands. Private
      property will then be strangled by the Jewish directors, who will administer the
      state patrimony everywhere. Thus the promise of the Talmud will be fulfilled,
      that is, the promise that the Jews, at the arrival of the Messiah, will possess
      the key to the wealth of all the peoples of the earth." - Baruch Levy, in a
      letter to Karl Marx, published in the Rothschild controlled La Revue de Paris,
      June 1, 1928.

      "Nations will gather together to bring their homage to the people of God; the
      whole fortune of nations will pass into the hands of the Jewish people, they
      will march behind the Jewish people, in chains as captives, and will prostrate
      before it." - Isador Loeb, Le Probleme Juif.

      "In everything, we are destroyers--even in the instruments of destruction to
      which we turn for relief...We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the
      destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands."
      - Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, pages 152, 155, and 147.

      "There is much in the fact of Bolshevism (Communism) itself, in the fact that so
      many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many
      points are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism." - The Jewish Chronicle,
      April 4, 1919.

      "Jew and Gentile are two worlds, between you Gentiles and us Jews there lies an
      unbridgeable gulf...There are two life forces in the world: Jewish and
      Gentile...I do not believe that this primal difference between Gentile and Jew
      is reconcilable..." - Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, page 9.

      "You cannot be English Jews. We are a race, and only as a race can we
      perpetuate. Our mentality is of a Hebraic character, and differs from that of an
      Englishman. Enough subterfuges! Let us assert openly that we are International
      Jews." - Gerald Soman, Chairman of the World Jewry Fellowship, in its official
      manifesto, January 1, 1935.

      "Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race, and we are a
      race." - Rabbi Stephen Wise, N.Y. Herald-Tribune, June 13, 1938.

      "Let us recognize that we Jews are a distinct nationality of which every Jew,
      whatever his country, his station, or shade of belief, is necessarily a member."
      - Louis Brandeis, U.S. Supreme Ct. Justice, Zionism, page 113.

      "The English (or French or American, etc.) patriotism of the Jew is only a
      fancy-dress which he puts on to please the people of the country." - The Jewish
      World, December 8, 1911.

      "The Jew is an inborn Communist." - Otto Weininger, Sex and Character, page 311.

      "We Jews are going to bring war on Germany." - David Brown, President of
      American Hebrew, in 1934, quoted in Edmonson's I Testify, page 188.

      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the fundamentals of
      Judaism." - The Chicago Jewish Sentinel, October 8, 1942.

      "The Roosevelt Administration has selected more Jews to fill influential
      positions than any previous administration." - Brooklyn Jewish Examiner, October
      20, 1933.

      "We Jews have spoiled the blood of all the races of Europe. Taken as a whole,
      everything is Jewdified. Our ideas animate everything. Our spirit reigns over
      the world. We are the Lords." - Dr. Kurt Munzer, The Way to Zion.

      "Give me the power to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who
      makes the laws." - Anselm Rothschild.

      "I have never discerned what there is about incest which is really repulsive. I
      merely note that it is natural and frequent for sister and brother to be
      lovers." - Leon Blum, Prime Minister of France, Du Mariage.

      "The Jews have a disproportionate number of mental defectives, idiots, and
      imbeciles." - Dr. Maurice Fishburg, Eugenic Factors in Jewish Life. "You are not
      Whites--either symbolically or literally--as anyone knows who goes to Israel." -
      Professor Leonard Fein at speech at 27th biennial congress of the Jewish Board
      of Deputies in Johannesburg, May 15, 1972.

    • highalt 30 Facts About Israel 12.01.08, 08:20
      1. Did you know that non-Jewish Israelis cannot buy or lease land in Israel? A
      Jew from any country in the world is guaranteed citizenship in Israel, while the
      Palestinians who have been there for centuries are oppressed and persecuted.

      2. Did you know that instead of sewing an insignia on clothing to distinguish
      race (like the Germans did to the Jews before WW2), Palestinian license plates
      in Israel are color coded to distinguish Jews from non-Jews?

      3. Did you know that East Jerusalem, the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights
      are all considered by the entire world community, including the United States
      and the United Nations, to be occupied territory and NOT part of the State of
      Israel?

      4. Did you know that Israel allots 85% of the water resources for Jews, and the
      remaining 15% is divided among all Palestinians in the territories? For example
      in Hebron, 85% of the water is set aside for about 400 Jewish settlers, while
      the remaining 15% is distributed among Hebron's 120, 000 Palestinians?

      5. Did you know that the United States awards Israel $5 billion in aid each year
      from American tax dollars?

      6. Did you know that US aid to Israel ($3.0 billion annually) exceeds the aid
      the US grants to the entire African continent? This aid is used both to buy
      American weaponry and to buy arms made in Israel.

      7. Did you know that Israel is awaiting an additional $4 billion worth of
      American military hardware, including new F-16s and Apache and Blackhawk
      helicopters. As Israel's main ally and supporter internationally, the United
      States is committed to maintaining the Jewish state's 'qualitative edge' in
      weapons over its neighbors.

      8. Did you know that the U.S. administration has notified Congress on numerous
      occasions that Israel has violated the rules on how US-supplied weapons are
      used? (In 1978, 1979 and 1982 during fighting in Lebanon, and once after
      Israel's bombing of an Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981.)

      9. Did you know that Israel is the only country in the Middle East that refuses
      to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections
      from its sites?

      10. Did you know that high-ranking military officers in the Israeli Defense
      Forces have admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war have been summarily
      executed by the Israeli forces?

      11. Did you know that Israel blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt
      and attacked a US warship in international waters (the USS Liberty), killing 33
      and wounding 177 American sailors and the US did nothing about it?

      12. Did you know that Israel stands in defiance of 69 United Nations Security
      Council Resolutions?

      13. Did you know that Israel is explicitly dedicated to the policy of
      maintaining a distinct Jewish character?

      14. Did you know that Israel's current Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, was found
      by an Israeli court to be 'personally and directly responsible' for the Sabra
      and Shatilla massacre in Lebanon where more than a thousand innocent Palestinian
      men, women, and children were axed to death or lined up and shot in cold blood?

      15. Did you know that on May 20, 1990, a group of unarmed Palestinian laborers
      were lined up and murdered by an Israeli solider as they sat waiting for
      transportation back to Gaza? The terrified laborers who gathered in an area of
      southern Israel known as Rishon Lezion (known to Palestinians by its Arabic name
      Oyon Qara) handed their ID cards to the Israeli soldier. The soldiers ordered
      the distressed laborers to kneel down and face the ground and unexpectedly
      showered them with a barrage of bullets, killing seven and wounding many others.
      Needless to say, the soldier was not charged with any crime.

      16. Did you know that until as recently as 1988, Israelis were permitted to run
      'Jews Only' job ads?

      17. Did you know that the Israeli Foreign Ministry pays six US public relations
      firms to promote a 'positive image' of Israel to the American public?

      18. Did you know that Sharon's coalition government includes a
      party--Molodet--which advocates ethnic cleansing by openly calling for the
      forced expulsion of all Palestinians from the occupied territories?

      19. Did you know that recently-declassified documents indicate that David
      Ben-Gurion approved of the forced expulsion of Arabs from all Palestininan
      territory in 1948?

      20. Did you know that the former chief rabbi of Israel, Rabbi Ovadia Yossef, who
      is also a founder and spiritual leader of the religious Shas party (Israel's
      third largest political party) openly advocates a 'Final Solution' to annihilate
      the Palestinians? Speaking at the widely broadcast sermon marking the last
      Passover, he declared of the Palestinians: 'The Lord shall return their deeds on
      their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and
      vanish them from this world. It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must
      send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable.'

      21. Did you know that Palestinian refugees make up the largest portion of the
      refugee population in the world?

      22. Did you know that Palestinian Christians are considered the 'living stones'
      of Christianity because they are the direct descendants of the disciples of
      Jesus Christ? And the Palestinian Christians stand united with their Muslim
      brethren in the struggle against the Israeli occupation.

      23. Did you know that despite a ban on torture by Israel's High Court of
      Justice, torture has continued unabated by Shin Bet interrogators on Palestinian
      prisoners?

      24. Did you know that despite every Israeli attempt to disrupt Palestinian
      education, Palestinians have the highest ratio of PhDs per capita in the world?

      25. Did you know that the right of self-determination is guaranteed to every
      human being under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights [December, 1948],
      yet Palestinians were/are expected to negotiate for this right under the Oslo
      Accords?

      26. Did you know that despite what is widely perpetuated and written in the
      history books that the Arabs attacked Israel in the 1967 war, it was Israel who
      attacked the Arab countries first, capturing Jerusalem and the West Bank, and
      called the attack a pre-emptive strike?

      27. Did you know that, as an occupying power, Israel has a particular
      responsibility under the Geneva Conventions to protect Palestinian civilians?

      28. Did you know that, despite Ariel Sharon's public call for a unilateral
      ceasefire, Israeli soldiers have not stopped shooting, killing or bulldozing
      Palestinian homes? The most recent example of this is the murder of three
      innocent women who were shot by an Israeli tank as they sat in their tent!

      29. Did you know that the Zionists have been trying to destroy Masjid al-Aqsa
      and the Dome of the Rock for the last 50 years by digging underground tunnels
      beneath the sites to weaken its foundation causing it to collapse?

      30. Nelson Mandela called the Israeli government an apartheid regime, just like
      South Africa used to be.


      • strikep Re: 30 Facts About Israel 12.01.08, 09:20
        highalt napisała:

        > 1. Did you know that non-Jewish Israelis cannot buy or lease land
        in Israel? A
        > Jew from any country in the world is guaranteed citizenship in
        Israel, while th
        > e
        > Palestinians who have been there for centuries are oppressed and
        persecuted.
        >
        > 2. Did you know that instead of sewing an insignia on clothing to
        distinguish
        > race (like the Germans did to the Jews before WW2), Palestinian
        license plates
        > in Israel are color coded to distinguish Jews from non-Jews?
        >
        > 3. Did you know that East Jerusalem, the West Bank, Gaza, and the
        Golan Heights
        > are all considered by the entire world community, including the
        United States
        > and the United Nations, to be occupied territory and NOT part of
        the State of
        > Israel?
        >
        > 4. Did you know that Israel allots 85% of the water resources for
        Jews, and the
        > remaining 15% is divided among all Palestinians in the
        territories? For example
        > in Hebron, 85% of the water is set aside for about 400 Jewish
        settlers, while
        > the remaining 15% is distributed among Hebron's 120, 000
        Palestinians?
        >
        > 5. Did you know that the United States awards Israel $5 billion in
        aid each yea
        > r
        > from American tax dollars?
        >
        > 6. Did you know that US aid to Israel ($3.0 billion annually)
        exceeds the aid
        > the US grants to the entire African continent? This aid is used
        both to buy
        > American weaponry and to buy arms made in Israel.
        >
        > 7. Did you know that Israel is awaiting an additional $4 billion
        worth of
        > American military hardware, including new F-16s and Apache and
        Blackhawk
        > helicopters. As Israel's main ally and supporter internationally,
        the United
        > States is committed to maintaining the Jewish state's 'qualitative
        edge' in
        > weapons over its neighbors.
        >
        > 8. Did you know that the U.S. administration has notified Congress
        on numerous
        > occasions that Israel has violated the rules on how US-supplied
        weapons are
        > used? (In 1978, 1979 and 1982 during fighting in Lebanon, and once
        after
        > Israel's bombing of an Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981.)
        >
        > 9. Did you know that Israel is the only country in the Middle East
        that refuses
        > to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars
        international inspections
        > from its sites?
        >
        > 10. Did you know that high-ranking military officers in the
        Israeli Defense
        > Forces have admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war have
        been summarily
        > executed by the Israeli forces?
        >
        > 11. Did you know that Israel blew up an American diplomatic
        facility in Egypt
        > and attacked a US warship in international waters (the USS
        Liberty), killing 33
        > and wounding 177 American sailors and the US did nothing about it?
        >
        > 12. Did you know that Israel stands in defiance of 69 United
        Nations Security
        > Council Resolutions?
        >
        > 13. Did you know that Israel is explicitly dedicated to the policy
        of
        > maintaining a distinct Jewish character?
        >
        > 14. Did you know that Israel's current Prime Minister, Ariel
        Sharon, was found
        > by an Israeli court to be 'personally and directly responsible'
        for the Sabra
        > and Shatilla massacre in Lebanon where more than a thousand
        innocent Palestinia
        > n
        > men, women, and children were axed to death or lined up and shot
        in cold blood?
        >
        > 15. Did you know that on May 20, 1990, a group of unarmed
        Palestinian laborers
        > were lined up and murdered by an Israeli solider as they sat
        waiting for
        > transportation back to Gaza? The terrified laborers who gathered
        in an area of
        > southern Israel known as Rishon Lezion (known to Palestinians by
        its Arabic nam
        > e
        > Oyon Qara) handed their ID cards to the Israeli soldier. The
        soldiers ordered
        > the distressed laborers to kneel down and face the ground and
        unexpectedly
        > showered them with a barrage of bullets, killing seven and
        wounding many others
        > .
        > Needless to say, the soldier was not charged with any crime.
        >
        > 16. Did you know that until as recently as 1988, Israelis were
        permitted to run
        > 'Jews Only' job ads?
        >
        > 17. Did you know that the Israeli Foreign Ministry pays six US
        public relations
        > firms to promote a 'positive image' of Israel to the American
        public?
        >
        > 18. Did you know that Sharon's coalition government includes a
        > party--Molodet--which advocates ethnic cleansing by openly calling
        for the
        > forced expulsion of all Palestinians from the occupied territories?
        >
        > 19. Did you know that recently-declassified documents indicate
        that David
        > Ben-Gurion approved of the forced expulsion of Arabs from all
        Palestininan
        > territory in 1948?
        >
        > 20. Did you know that the former chief rabbi of Israel, Rabbi
        Ovadia Yossef, wh
        > o
        > is also a founder and spiritual leader of the religious Shas party
        (Israel's
        > third largest political party) openly advocates a 'Final Solution'
        to annihilat
        > e
        > the Palestinians? Speaking at the widely broadcast sermon marking
        the last
        > Passover, he declared of the Palestinians: 'The Lord shall return
        their deeds o
        > n
        > their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate
        them and
        > vanish them from this world. It is forbidden to be merciful to
        them. You must
        > send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and
        damnable.'
        >
        > 21. Did you know that Palestinian refugees make up the largest
        portion of the
        > refugee population in the world?
        >
        > 22. Did you know that Palestinian Christians are considered
        the 'living stones'
        > of Christianity because they are the direct descendants of the
        disciples of
        > Jesus Christ? And the Palestinian Christians stand united with
        their Muslim
        > brethren in the struggle against the Israeli occupation.
        >
        > 23. Did you know that despite a ban on torture by Israel's High
        Court of
        > Justice, torture has continued unabated by Shin Bet interrogators
        on Palestinia
        > n
        > prisoners?
        >
        > 24. Did you know that despite every Israeli attempt to disrupt
        Palestinian
        > education, Palestinians have the highest ratio of PhDs per capita
        in the world?
        >
        > 25. Did you know that the right of self-determination is
        guaranteed to every
        > human being under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
        [December, 1948],
        > yet Palestinians were/are expected to negotiate for this right
        under the Oslo
        > Accords?
        >
        > 26. Did you know that despite what is widely perpetuated and
        written in the
        > history books that the Arabs attacked Israel in the 1967 war, it
        was Israel who
        > attacked the Arab countries first, capturing Jerusalem and the
        West Bank, and
        > called the attack a pre-emptive strike?
        >
        > 27. Did you know that, as an occupying power, Israel has a
        particular
        > responsibility under the Geneva Conventions to protect Palestinian
        civilians?
        >
        > 28. Did you know that, despite Ariel Sharon's public call for a
        unilateral
        > ceasefire, Israeli soldiers have not stopped shooting, killing or
        bulldozing
        > Palestinian homes? The most recent example of this is the murder
        of three
        > innocent women who were shot by an Israeli tank as they sat in
        their tent!
        >
        > 29. Did you know that the Zionists have been trying to destroy
        Masjid al-Aqsa
        > and the Dome of the Rock for the last 50 years by digging
        underground tunnels
        > beneath the sites to weaken its foundation causing it to collapse?
        >
        > 30. Nelson M
    • highalt The Professor of Torture 12.01.08, 08:21
      Dershowitz for the Defense--of Waterboarding


      Alan Dershowitz is a crafty debater, a capable attorney and a ferocious defender
      of Israel. He is also a Harvard professor and a former member of OJ Simpson's
      legal defense called the Dream Team.

      An article by Dershowitz appeared on op-ed page of the Wall Street Journal on
      November 7, 2007, titled "Democrats and Waterboarding". In that article
      Dershowitz makes a spirited defense of waterboarding, going so far as to say
      that (he believes) the Democrats "will lose the presidential race if it defines
      itself as soft on terror." Dershowitz thinks the Democrats are headed for
      trouble if they assume the "pacifistic stance" that he identifies with Cindy
      Sheehan and Michael Moore. By using Moore and Sheehan as examples; it is clear
      that Dershowitz accepts the media's attempts to dismiss them as part of an
      imaginary "leftist fringe".

      Instead, Dershowitz holds up ex-New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani as an example of
      a candidate whose popularity has steadily grown because of his "tough" stance on
      national security issues. Dershowitz uses the "national security" hobgoblin in
      the same way as Bush; to justify government activities that conflict with our
      existing laws and basic principles. It is a neat bit of lawyerly footwork, but
      unconvincing.

      In Dershowitz's defense, it is true that he does not approve of "the routine use
      of torture", but only in the rare situation when it might be useful in gaining "
      preventive intelligence information about imminent acts of terrorism--the
      so-called "ticking bomb" scenario." But, who decides? Do we bestow this
      authority on men who have already proven to be untrustworthy---on men who have
      already created an industrial scale system of torture in black sites around the
      world? Who do we trust with these new powers?

      And how do we know when a so-called "terrorist suspect" is a terrorist at all?
      Are we being asked to forgo due process and the presumption of innocence along
      with our revulsion to cruel and inhuman treatment?

      Dershowitz's loves to use the "ticking time-bomb" scenario and trots it out at
      every opportunity. It is a very persuasive argument, until one really examines
      the implications. Jose Padilla was supposedly a "ticking time-bomb", wasn't he?
      According to the earliest public statements by the Bush administration, Padilla
      had smuggled a nuclear device or "dirty bomb" into the country and was planning
      to use it in a terrorist attack against American civilians. But it wasn't true.
      The government had fabricated the entire story and kept him in prison without
      charges for over 4 years on claims that were manifestly false. The Bush
      administration has never offered an explanation for their lies.

      Padilla's attorney has produced convincing evidence that he was repeatedly
      tortured in prison and was, thus, driven insane. And for what? The government
      knew that he was not involved in a terrorist plot to kill Americans. Under
      Dershowitz's regime, Padilla's treatment would be entirely justified. Is that
      what we want?

      The "ticking time-bomb" argument is a way of challenging our core values. It's a
      test. It's like asking, "How much are we really willing to sacrifice for the
      sake of our beliefs? Are we willing to risk our lives and the lives of the
      people we love ?" Or are we ready to "throw in the towel" and hand the
      government even greater and more lethal powers hoping that they'll keep us safe?

      In Dershowitz's book, "Shouting Fire: Civil Liberties in a Turbulent Age," he says:

      "No torture would be permitted without a "torture warrant" being issued by a
      judge....An application for a torture warrant would have to be based on the
      absolute need to obtain immediate information in order to save lives coupled
      with probable cause that the suspect had such information and is unwilling to
      reveal it....The warrant would limit the torture to nonlethal means, such as
      sterile needles, being inserted beneath the nails to cause excruciating pain
      without endangering life."

      It's shocking that a respected author and attorney would actually qualify the
      type of needles ("sterile") that can be used while conducting torture. Can we
      see how outrageous this is?

      The excerpt proves that Dershowitz advocates torture. The support for "torture
      warrants" is support torture. Period. It doesn't matter if the torture is
      limited to extreme cases or not. It's barbarism. More importantly, it is
      barbarism that is vindicated by the state.

      Dershowitz has been defending his position on torture for more than 4 years.
      Here are his comments in 2002 from the op-ed page of the SF Chronicle :

      "If American law enforcement officers were ever to confront the law school
      hypothetical case of the captured terrorist who knew about an imminent attack
      but refused to provide the information necessary to prevent it, I have
      absolutely no doubt that they would try to torture the terrorists into providing
      the information.

      Moreover, the vast majority of Americans would expect the officers to engage
      in that time-tested technique for loosening tongues, notwithstanding our
      unequivocal treaty obligation never to employ torture, no matter how exigent the
      circumstances."

      ("Want to Torture; Get a Warrant", SF Chronicle 2002)

      Dershowitz is mistaken. According to every survey conducted in the last 5 years,
      the majority of American people are overwhelming opposed to torture and-I dare
      say---they are equally opposed to cops who take the law into their own hands and
      "engage in that time-tested technique for loosening tongues." What Dershowitz is
      suggesting here is deadly serious and paves the way for routine abuses of power
      and police brutality. It is a wonder that the Bar hasn't stepped in and
      chastised him for his public stance on this issue.

      Dershowitz's logic is also flawed. His argument can be reduced to this: "The
      cops are going to torture anyway, so let's give them the green light by
      providing them with "torture warrants"? Isn't that what he is saying?

      This is from the same article:

      "Every democracy, including our own, has employed torture outside of the
      law....Throughout the years, police officers have tortured murder and rape
      suspects into confessing
    • highalt Does the J-Man owe an apology? 12.01.08, 08:22
      slave ship owners
      This is very important,don't brush it out of sight with your neo-judeo-con rhetoric:
      Name of slave ship owners
      Abigail-Caracoa Aaron Lopez, Moses Levy, Jacob Franks
      Crown-Issac Levy and Nathan Simpson
      Nassau-Moses Levy
      Four Sisters-Moses Levy
      Anne & Eliza-Justus Bosch and John Abrams
      Prudent Betty-Henry Cruger and Jacob Phoenix
      Hester-Mordecai and David Gomez
      Elizabeth-Mordecai and David Gomez
      Antigua-Nathan Marston and Abram Lyell
      Betsy-Wm. De Woolf
      Polly-James De Woolf
      White Horse-Jan de Sweevts
      Expedition-John and Jacob Roosevelt
      Charlotte-Moses and Sam Levy and Jacob Franks

      Source: Elizabeth Donnan, 4 Volumes, 'Documents Illustrative of the History of
      the Slave Trade to America' Washington, D.C. 1930, 1935 Carnegie Institute of
      Technology
    • highalt Jewish Gangsters 12.01.08, 08:22
      Jewish Gangsters Raped, Killed Children As Young As Two On Film
      LSN, 9 October 2000

      Rome, Italy
      • strikep Re: Jewish Gangsters 12.01.08, 08:38
        highalt napisała:

        > Jewish Gangsters Raped, Killed Children As Young As Two On Film
        > LSN, 9 October 2000
        >
        > Rome, Italy
    • highalt banking? 12.01.08, 08:23
      What about the sphere of banking? A Jew has been Chairman of our Federal Reserve
      banking system for the past twenty years.
      The World Bank’s previous two Presidents were both Jews, the latter, Wolfowitz,
      was a key policy planner for the invasion of Iraq.
    • highalt In government? 12.01.08, 08:23
      In government? Jewish males held 28% of the Cabinet positions in Clinton’s
      presidency, despite being 1% of the population.
      The head of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, is a radical Jew. In the
      Supreme Court Jews hold 22% of the positions, yet are
      only 2% of the population. Our newly appointed Attorney General Michael Mukasey
      is also an extremist Jew.
    • highalt immigration 12.01.08, 08:24
      That Faye goes on to find the above view “suspect” (p. 216) in no way alters the
      fact that it is based on historical reality. As far as the U.S. goes, one has
      only to read the chapter, “The Jewish-led Invasion,” in David Duke’s book Jewish
      Supremacism to be convinced. Quoting from numerous documents, Duke shows that
      U.S. Jewish organizations fought for decades to do away with the restrictive
      immigration laws which, while not totally excluding non-white immigration,
      sought to preserve the ethnic composition of the U.S. population. Jewish efforts
      were crowned with success in 1965, and as a result the percentage of whites in
      the U.S. population, 90% in 1965, had by 2006 fallen to 63%. Non-white
      immigration reached record levels under Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, also
      the presidents most favorable to the Jews in U.S. history. If Faye sees that as
      pure coincidence, that’s up to him and none of our concern.
      • strikep I looove you highalt , very, very true and sad... 12.01.08, 08:27
        highalt napisała:

        > That Faye goes on to find the above view “suspect” (p. 216) in no w
        > ay alters the
        > fact that it is based on historical reality. As far as the U.S.
        goes, one has
        > only to read the chapter, “The Jewish-led Invasion,” in David Duke&
        > #8217;s book Jewish
        > Supremacism to be convinced. Quoting from numerous documents, Duke
        shows that
        > U.S. Jewish organizations fought for decades to do away with the
        restrictive
        > immigration laws which, while not totally excluding non-white
        immigration,
        > sought to preserve the ethnic composition of the U.S. population.
        Jewish effort
        > s
        > were crowned with success in 1965, and as a result the percentage
        of whites in
        > the U.S. population, 90% in 1965, had by 2006 fallen to 63%. Non-
        white
        > immigration reached record levels under Bill Clinton and George W.
        Bush, also
        > the presidents most favorable to the Jews in U.S. history. If Faye
        sees that as
        > pure coincidence, that’s up to him and none of our concern.
    • highalt Come and Hear 12.01.08, 08:25
      Many American male babies are circumcised by medical procedure shortly after
      birth. However, Orthodox Judaism prescribes circumcision as a religious ritual,
      to be performed according to strict Talmudic laws. According to those laws, the
      man who circumcises the infant, the mohel, must suck the infant's bleeding penis
      with his mouth.

      MISHNAH. WE PERFORM ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF CIRCUMCISION ON THE SABBATH. WE
      CIRCUMCISE, UNCOVER [THE CORONA], SUCK [THE WOUND], AND PLACE A COMPRESS AND
      CUMMIN UPON IT. IF ONE DID NOT CRUSH [THE CUMMIM] ON THE EVE OF THE SABBATH, HE
      MUST CHEW [IT] WITH HIS TEETH AND APPLY [IT TO THE WOUND] …

      GEMARA. … WE SUCK OUT, etc. R. Papa said: If a surgeon does not suck [the
      WOUND], it is dangerous and he is dismissed. It is obvious? Since we desecrate
      the Sabbath for it, it is dangerous? — You might say that this blood is stored
      up, therefore he informs us that it is the result of a wound, and it is like a
      bandage and cummin: just as when one does not apply a bandage and cummin there
      is danger, so here too if one does not do it there is danger …

      Mezizah (the practice of orally sucking the bleeding penis with the mouth) is
      not outmoded or discarded. The photos below were published by the Jerusalem Post
      Magazine.
    • highalt Israel as an apartheid state 12.01.08, 08:27
      Jews want for you to have multicultural and pluralistic society but in their
      country shitsteinstan aka Israel they are building a wall to keep non-Jews out!
      US tax payers are paying for all of this..
    • highalt "Tarcza" to Zydowska sprawa 12.01.08, 08:28
      Stanowcze nie dla tarczy smierci w naszym kraju! Zdrajca jest ten kto wprowadza
      obce wojsko do naszego kraju!
    • strikep I love you highalt, very, very true ..... 12.01.08, 08:30
      where do you live?
    • highalt Anti-Semitism 12.01.08, 08:30
      In the olden days, an anti-Semite was someone who hates Jews. These days it’s
      someone the Jews hate.

      W dawny czasach antysemita to osbo ktora nienawidzila Zydow.. Dzis antysemita to
      osoba ktora Zydzi nienawidza...
    • strikep Highalt this i very scary but true.... 12.01.08, 08:32
      over 30 of my post were deleted today, and I was barred for 10 hours
      from the access to the area.
    • highalt Rabbi David Kaye 12.01.08, 08:32
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhVTgK0P6cY&feature=related
    • highalt Jewish Rabbi 12.01.08, 08:33
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqoGiSi0HUo&feature=related
    • strikep Highalt you are absolutely right ...... 12.01.08, 08:35
      oh, God help us....
      But up till late 60's Jews in the US had to change their Jewish
      names for English names when they wanted to make some career in the
      administration, now it is different....
    • highalt Robert Spencer -- Jew Undercover 12.01.08, 08:37
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxDMK0k3JwU&feature=related
    • highalt Protokoly Medrcow Syjonu 12.01.08, 08:39
      Przeczytaj i sam(a) ocen czy to co pisza sie zgadza czy to tylko brednie...

      www.polonica.net/ProtokolyMedrcowSyjonu2.htm
      • strikep Re: Protokoly Medrcow Syjonu 12.01.08, 08:45
        highalt napisała:

        > Przeczytaj i sam(a) ocen czy to co pisza sie zgadza czy to tylko
        brednie...
        >
        > www.polonica.net/ProtokolyMedrcowSyjonu2.htm
        • strikep Re: Protokoly Medrcow Syjonu 12.01.08, 08:46
          strikep napisał:

          > highalt napisała:
          >
          > > Przeczytaj i sam(a) ocen czy to co pisza sie zgadza czy to tylko
          > brednie...
          > >
          > > www.polonica.net/ProtokolyMedrcowSyjonu2.htm
      • strikep Re: Protokoly Medrcow Syjonu - dla Polakow 12.01.08, 08:47
        highalt napisała:

        > Przeczytaj i sam(a) ocen czy to co pisza sie zgadza czy to tylko
        brednie...
        >
        > www.polonica.net/ProtokolyMedrcowSyjonu2.htm
    • highalt A ty jestes pejsata malpa Zydowska 12.01.08, 08:44
      Fuck YOU JEW!!! The cat is out of the bag.. it's only a matter of time before
      you're antisemitism business goes bankrupt.. it's going to happen in your life
      time .. it's the PROPHECY!!! oh and in case you forgot there is going to be the
      second coming of Christ and he is going to kick Jew ass from here to kingdom
      come.. it's coming!
      • strikep Re: A ty jestes pejsata malpa Zydowska 12.01.08, 08:50
        highalt napisała:

        > Fuck YOU JEW!!! The cat is out of the bag.. it's only a matter of
        time before
        > you're antisemitism business goes bankrupt.. it's going to happen
        in your life
        > time .. it's the PROPHECY!!! oh and in case you forgot there is
        going to be the
        > second coming of Christ and he is going to kick Jew ass from here
        to kingdom
        > come.. it's coming!
    • strikep Aresztoac Grossa i wiezienie na 10 lat 12.01.08, 08:48

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