Wyjazdy na czarno

[mary_an]

Drogie operki! Jako studentka prawa postanowilam pokopac w papierach i
podowiadywac sie, jakie sa mozliwe konsekwencje wyjazdu na czarno. Bo jak juz
ktos sie na taki wyjazd decyduje, powienien wiedziec, co ryzykuje. Moze Wy
tez cos na ten temat wiecie? Kazdy kraj ma inne regulacje, postaram sie
czegos wiecej dowiedziec (moze nie dzisiaj, ale stopniowo fajnie byloby cos
tutaj dopisywac)

USA

[mary_an]

Z tego co czytalam, to za nielegalna prace w USA grozi kara finansowa dla
rodzinki (jeszcze dokladnie nie wiem jaka, ale sie dowiem), natomiast operka
zostaje deportowana. Problemy moga pojawic sie juz na lotnisku (np. ladujemy
sobie zadowolone w Nowym Jorku i nas od razu zawracaja do Polski).

Niemcy

[mary_an]

W Niemczech ostatnio zaostrzono przepisy za nielegalna prace i kary podniesiono
nawet do 5000 Euro. Co jest jeszcze wazne, niemcy lubuja sie w donosicielstwie -
jak juz kilku osobom pisalam - jak robie ze znajomymi impreze, to juz o 22.05
(23.05) pojawia sie policja, wezwana przez sasiadow - studentow, ze im sie
cisze nocna zakloca. Jak piesek zrobi "kupe" komus pod oknem, od razu
zawiamiana jest policja i delikwent placi (chyba teraz 50 Euro - ostatnio moja
znajoma placila :))) Nie, zeby to byl jakis absolutny standard, ale zawsze jest
takie ryzyko - czemu zazdrosny sasiad mialby nie zadzwonic i nie powiedziec, ze
rodzina X ma nielegalnego pracownika??

[mujer1323]

a wlasciwie jak moga to sprawdzic?mozna powiedziec ze jest sie u znajomych w
celu podszkolenia jezyka...no i nawet jesli sie pomaga przy dzieciach-to
niekoniecznie musi byc w ramach pracy-a jesli ktos jedzie do rodziny i robi to
samo [i mu placa-kto moze o tym wiedziec?]to juz nie jest praca na czarno?
mozna udowodnic ze ktos pracuje w ten sposob na czarno?

[mujer1323]

a odnosnie stanow to moga sobie tak deportowac kogos jesli najpierw dali mu
wize?[skad wiedza co tam robi?]

[mary_an]

www.usemb.se/consulate/aupair.html
PENALTIES FOR ILLEGAL AU PAIR WORK
Penalties Suffered by the Illegal Au Pair

Persons traveling to the United States under the Visa Waiver Program (e.g.,
Swedish citizens traveling without a visa as tourists or on short-term business
for their non-U.S. employer) are permitted to stay in the U.S. no more than 90
days. Persons traveling to the United States with a visa are generally allowed
to remain in the U.S. for a longer period, though the exact amount of time is
left to the discretion of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officer
interviewing the alien upon his or her arrival in the United States. In neither
case, though, unless the prospective au pair has been appropriately issued a J-
1 or B-1 visa, may an alien be employed as an au pair during the period of his
or her stay.

Should an alien traveling to the U.S. - under either the Visa Waiver program or
with a visa - stay longer than amount of time allowed the alien by the
Department of Homeland Security (DHS), he or she will be considered by the DHS
to be unlawfully present in the United States. The DHS is authorized to deport
any alien who has overstayed his or her allowed period of stay in the United
States. Moreover, should the alien overstay his or her allowed period in the
U.S., voluntarily leave the country, then seek to re-enter the U.S. at a later
date, the DHS may not readmit the alien into the U.S.; the alien may be sent
back - at his or her own expense - to the country from which the alien traveled
to the U.S.


Penalties Suffered by Those Employing an Illegal Au Pair

It is unlawful for a person or other entity to knowingly hire for employment in
the United States an alien au pair that has not received work authorization.
Any person found by the DHS to have knowingly hired an illegal au pair may face
civil penalties of up to $2000 for a first offense, with escalating fines up to
$10,000 for subsequent offenses. Any person convicted of engaging in a pattern
or practice of hiring unauthorized au pairs shall also face criminal penalties
including fines of up to $3,000 for each illegal au pair that the person
employed and imprisonment for up to six months.

Should an alien travelling to the U.S. - either under the Visa Waiver Program
or with a visa - work as an au pair in the U.S. at any time before or after the
expiration of the allowed period of stay, he or she will have violated U.S.
work authorization laws. As with the case of an overstay, the United States
Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) is authorized to deport any alien
who is working in the United States without proper authorization. Moreover,
should the alien work without authorization during his or her allowed period in
the U.S., voluntarily leave the country, then seek to re-enter the U.S. at a
later date, the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) may
not readmit the alien into the U.S.; the alien may be sent back - at his or her
own expense - to the country from which the alien traveled to the U.S.

[mary_an]

Pomylka:

Eine illegale Beschäftigung von Aupairs (ohne Arbeitsgenehmigung) wird mit
hohen Strafen bis zu geahndet werden (bis 20.000,- Euro). Die Behörden
kontrollieren zunehmend Familien, ob illegale Arbeit in Familien stattfindet.
Wir raten dringend davon ab und empfehlen unseriöse Agenturen zu meiden.

[mujer1323]

nie wiem czy wiesz ale nie wszyscy znaja niemiecki..

[ed.kow]

Kurcze...a wczesniej pisalas ze studiujesz filologie jakas...Iberystyke chyba
nawet...no no...

[mary_an]

No w Niemczech sie laczy przedmioty i studiuje minimum 2 max. 3 :) ja mam ta 2
opcje :)