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Pani Fritzl.

19.03.09, 14:46
Wierzyć, czy nie wierzyć tej kobiecie, która przez 24 lata nie
wiedziała co dzieje się pod jej stopami, w ciemnej piwnicy, która
razem z męzem kupowała pieluszki dla dzieci i odżywki, w tygodniu
znikała żywność w dużych ilościach, a sam Fritzl znikał po nocach w
piwnicy. Z piwnicy dochodziły odgłosy, płacz, krzyk itp.
Echh coś mało prawdopodbne, aby ta kobieta nie była współwinna! Ją
też powinni postawić przed sądem.
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    • zlotyswit Re: Pani Fritzl. 19.03.09, 15:20
      Możesz podać link do jakiegoś artykułu o jego żonie? Wszystkie które czytałem
      nawet się o niej nie zająkują. Znalazłem tylko jeden o jego matce.
      www.policyjni.pl/Policyjni/1,91152,5870862,Josef_Fritzl_terroryzowal_i_wiezil_wlasna_matke.html
      • croyance Re: Pani Fritzl. 19.03.09, 20:15
        Znalazlam kiedys ciekawy post na ktoryms z angielskich bodajze
        forow; pozwole sobie skopiowac i wkleic. Autorem jest nieznany
        forumowicz, ale trudno nie odmowic mu racji.

        '1. Here is a comment that I would like to make
        about Josef Fritzl and his wife Rosemarie …
        Clearly that “person” (and one has to stretch the
        definition of the word “person” in order to apply
        it to that creature) known to the world as Josef
        Fritzl was / is the DEVIL-INCARNATE —- AND
        he should burn in h*ll for all of eternity for his evil.
        In addition, it also needs to be stated that no person
        on earth should allow themselves be fooled for
        even one moment by the lies of “I didn’t know”
        that are currently being claimed by that lying
        and equally evil wife of this evil DEVIL!!!
        That vile, evil, perverted, disgusting, devil
        b**tch of a wife of that MONSTER KNEW!!
        SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!!
        She KNEW the whole time (or at least had
        literally no excuse whatsoever to have not
        at least ‘suspected’ something was amiss!!!)
        She is a LIAR and she must think the entire world is
        as perverted as both she and her husband are and
        that by coming up with that ridiculous and flimsy
        excuse that she can then convince the rest of
        the world to then respond to her own complicity
        the same way she chose to respond to that of
        her husband’s evil — by ‘turning a blind eye’.
        BOTH of them are utter DEVILS and one
        cannot help but to hope that they both burn
        in h*ll for all of eternity for their evil acts!!!!
        She expects anyone on this planet who has even
        half-a-brain-stem to believe for even one fraction
        of a moment that she didn’t know anything at all?!?!
        Give me a break!!!
        For crying out loud–unless this woman is Helen
        Keller –she has NO EXCUSE at all to not have
        known (or at least ’suspected’) something strange
        and conspiratorial was going on regarding her
        daughter’s whereabouts and situation and that the
        husband’s stories were just far too incredulous
        and absolutely made no sense in the least bit!!!
        After all — think about it — daughter runs away as a
        very young teen; daughter mysteriously disappears
        at the age of 18 (an age when she can both make
        her own decisions and choose to get away from
        her father and even bring charges against him); the
        (convicted-rapist/arsonist) father gets a letter from
        daughter 1 month after her disappearance which
        ridiculously claims she has joined a cult and does
        not want to have any contact with the family – yet
        amazingly then later chooses (for 3 years in a row)
        to simply leave 3 of her newborn babies on the
        doorstep of very home that she tried to run away
        from at least 2 X’s before and is “allegedly thought”
        to have finally left in order to join some sort of
        “phantom” cult (a “cult” which, unlike every other
        cult, just somehow, seemingly has no desire to try
        to indoctrinate the youth from birth, but rather it
        simply allows it’s members to select a home –one
        which in fact, is both not a part of the cult AND is
        the very home from which the member ran in order
        to join the cult —to raise their babies and kids of
        the cult members) –ALL THE WHILE – the father
        forbids ANYONE to ever for ANY REASON dare to
        go ANYWHERE NEAR the mysterious basement
        (which he always keeps locked, disappears to for
        hours and days on end; has ‘unseen’ bathroom
        equipment installed; and has a cement-barricaded
        door installed which both has a security-code and
        which was so complicated it needed inspection
        by local government authorities in order to install).
        Just 2 years before the “discovery” of what this
        monster (and his devil wife via her complicity of
        silence) did to their poor child – another young girl,
        and former kidnap victim, was also found in Austria.
        It was discovered that the other young kidnap /
        rape victim had disappeared 8 years earlier and
        had been held in a basement / dungeon where
        she had been repeatedly raped the entire time
        by the individual who had also kidnapped her.
        Now —- even if the public was expected to
        simply throw all common sense to the wind
        and accept this monster’s devil-wife’s excuse
        that she “didn’t know”, say, in the beginning …
        it still stands to reason that after hearing about
        the case of the other young girl 2 years earlier
        —– this creep’s equally creepy wife would
        have said something to herself like, say …
        ”””Hmmm … a young girl who disappeared 8 years
        ago, out of no where, has been discovered
        to have been held in a basement the entire
        time and while there she was repeatedly
        raped by the person who trapped her there.
        Hmmm … my daughter, who repeatedly tried
        to run away from my convicted-rapist husband
        as a child has also mysteriously disappeared
        – and – my convicted-rapist husband is
        always coming across both ‘letters’ and
        ‘grandchildren’ that were allegedly left
        by my daughter (who has vanished
        without a trace) — and – meanwhile
        my convicted-rapist husband also
        has a mysterious basement that he
        keeps under lock and key and never
        allows anyone to come near — ever.
        Hmmm … now I cannot help but to wonder
        if that convicted-rapist husband I married
        just may have had something to do with
        the disappearance of our daughter – and
        — the appearance of all these grandkids
        and letters – and I also can’t help but to
        wonder if that mystery-basement room
        of his would, in some way / in any way,
        be connected somehow to our child’s
        disappearance and / or the mysterious
        appearance of all of these grandchildren.”””
        Yes – one would think that – even if this woman
        could have claimed ‘ignorance’ earlier – (a lie
        which, again, no one with any common sense
        should ever consider buying into) – once the
        discovery was made of a similar situation 2
        years earlier – she then had NO excuse to not
        have at least been suspicious of something
        about her convicted-rapist husband and his
        ever-so-mysterious hidden basement room.
        That vicious devil simply did not care at all about
        her own daughter – or — she simply cared more
        about her own creature-comforts and keeping up
        with her middle-class appearances than she did
        about the torture being done to her own child.
        THAT POOR GIRL’S VILE, DISGUSTING
        PERVERTED LYING B*TCH OF A MOTHER
        KNEW FULL WELL WHAT WAS GOING ON
        – SHE KNEW– SHE KNEW– SHE KNEW!!!
        THAT WIFE IS A B*TCH, A DEVIL AND A
        VILE PERVERT AND ONE CANNOT HELP
        BUT TO TRULY HOPE THAT— SINCE SHE
        OBVIOUSLY FELT SOME STRANGE NEED
        TO BE SO VERY LOYAL TO THAT DEVIL,
        OF A PERVERTED CONVICTED-RAPIST
        AND ARSONIST FREAK OF A HUSBAND
        OF HERS AND TO CHOOSE TO STAND BY
        HIS SIDE FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY
        ALL THE WHILE THAT HE IMPRISONED
        AND ALSO SEXUALLY AND PHYSICALLY
        AND MENTALLY TORTURED THEIR
        CHILD — SHE WILL REMAINS BY
        HIS SIDE AS THEY BOTH BURN
        IN H*LL FOR ALL OF ETERNITY!!
        She is clearly as much of a
        pervert and devil as is he!!
        Would anyone even be remotely surprised
        if further investigation later revealed that
        ‘Rosemarie Fritzl’ (who is actually trying to
        get the world to see her as a co-victim of
        her daughter’s horrific nightmare of a life)
        was actually just another ‘Rosemary West’
        (a woman whose husband also originally –
        and falsely – claimed that she had nothing
        to do with his unbelievably evil sex crimes)?
        What kind of a woman, after all, chooses to marry
        (or remained married to) a man who had already
        committed and also been convicted of previously
        raping anot
        • croyance Re: Pani Fritzl. 19.03.09, 20:18
          O, wow, myslalam, ze bedzie latwiejsze do odczytania. Pocielam na
          kawalki, teraz powinno byc lepiej (przepraszam za poprzedniego
          posta):

          1. Here is a comment that I would like to make
          about Josef Fritzl and his wife Rosemarie …
          Clearly that “person” (and one has to stretch the
          definition of the word “person” in order to apply
          it to that creature) known to the world as Josef
          Fritzl was / is the DEVIL-INCARNATE —- AND
          he should burn in h*ll for all of eternity for his evil.

          In addition, it also needs to be stated that no person
          on earth should allow themselves be fooled for
          even one moment by the lies of “I didn’t know”
          that are currently being claimed by that lying
          and equally evil wife of this evil DEVIL!!!
          That vile, evil, perverted, disgusting, devil
          b**tch of a wife of that MONSTER KNEW!!

          SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!!


          She KNEW the whole time (or at least had
          literally no excuse whatsoever to have not
          at least ‘suspected’ something was amiss!!!)
          She is a LIAR and she must think the entire world is
          as perverted as both she and her husband are and
          that by coming up with that ridiculous and flimsy
          excuse that she can then convince the rest of
          the world to then respond to her own complicity
          the same way she chose to respond to that of
          her husband’s evil — by ‘turning a blind eye’.

          BOTH of them are utter DEVILS and one
          cannot help but to hope that they both burn
          in h*ll for all of eternity for their evil acts!!!!
          She expects anyone on this planet who has even
          half-a-brain-stem to believe for even one fraction
          of a moment that she didn’t know anything at all?!?!
          Give me a break!!!

          For crying out loud–unless this woman is Helen
          Keller –she has NO EXCUSE at all to not have
          known (or at least ’suspected’) something strange
          and conspiratorial was going on regarding her
          daughter’s whereabouts and situation and that the
          husband’s stories were just far too incredulous
          and absolutely made no sense in the least bit!!!

          After all — think about it — daughter runs away as a
          very young teen; daughter mysteriously disappears
          at the age of 18 (an age when she can both make
          her own decisions and choose to get away from
          her father and even bring charges against him); the
          (convicted-rapist/arsonist) father gets a letter from
          daughter 1 month after her disappearance which
          ridiculously claims she has joined a cult and does
          not want to have any contact with the family – yet
          amazingly then later chooses (for 3 years in a row)
          to simply leave 3 of her newborn babies on the
          doorstep of very home that she tried to run away
          from at least 2 X’s before and is “allegedly thought”
          to have finally left in order to join some sort of
          “phantom” cult (a “cult” which, unlike every other
          cult, just somehow, seemingly has no desire to try
          to indoctrinate the youth from birth, but rather it
          simply allows it’s members to select a home –one
          which in fact, is both not a part of the cult AND is
          the very home from which the member ran in order
          to join the cult —to raise their babies and kids of
          the cult members) –ALL THE WHILE – the father
          forbids ANYONE to ever for ANY REASON dare to
          go ANYWHERE NEAR the mysterious basement
          (which he always keeps locked, disappears to for
          hours and days on end; has ‘unseen’ bathroom
          equipment installed; and has a cement-barricaded
          door installed which both has a security-code and
          which was so complicated it needed inspection
          by local government authorities in order to install).

          Just 2 years before the “discovery” of what this
          monster (and his devil wife via her complicity of
          silence) did to their poor child – another young girl,
          and former kidnap victim, was also found in Austria.
          It was discovered that the other young kidnap /
          rape victim had disappeared 8 years earlier and
          had been held in a basement / dungeon where
          she had been repeatedly raped the entire time
          by the individual who had also kidnapped her.

          Now —- even if the public was expected to
          simply throw all common sense to the wind
          and accept this monster’s devil-wife’s excuse
          that she “didn’t know”, say, in the beginning …
          it still stands to reason that after hearing about
          the case of the other young girl 2 years earlier
          —– this creep’s equally creepy wife would
          have said something to herself like, say …

          ”””Hmmm … a young girl who disappeared 8 years
          ago, out of no where, has been discovered
          to have been held in a basement the entire
          time and while there she was repeatedly
          raped by the person who trapped her there.
          Hmmm … my daughter, who repeatedly tried
          to run away from my convicted-rapist husband
          as a child has also mysteriously disappeared
          – and – my convicted-rapist husband is
          always coming across both ‘letters’ and
          ‘grandchildren’ that were allegedly left
          by my daughter (who has vanished
          without a trace) — and – meanwhile
          my convicted-rapist husband also
          has a mysterious basement that he
          keeps under lock and key and never
          allows anyone to come near — ever.

          Hmmm … now I cannot help but to wonder
          if that convicted-rapist husband I married
          just may have had something to do with
          the disappearance of our daughter – and
          — the appearance of all these grandkids
          and letters – and I also can’t help but to
          wonder if that mystery-basement room
          of his would, in some way / in any way,
          be connected somehow to our child’s
          disappearance and / or the mysterious
          appearance of all of these grandchildren.”””

          Yes – one would think that – even if this woman
          could have claimed ‘ignorance’ earlier – (a lie
          which, again, no one with any common sense
          should ever consider buying into) – once the
          discovery was made of a similar situation 2
          years earlier – she then had NO excuse to not
          have at least been suspicious of something
          about her convicted-rapist husband and his
          ever-so-mysterious hidden basement room.


          That vicious devil simply did not care at all about
          her own daughter – or — she simply cared more
          about her own creature-comforts and keeping up
          with her middle-class appearances than she did
          about the torture being done to her own child.

          THAT POOR GIRL’S VILE, DISGUSTING
          PERVERTED LYING B*TCH OF A MOTHER
          KNEW FULL WELL WHAT WAS GOING ON

          – SHE KNEW– SHE KNEW– SHE KNEW!!!

          THAT WIFE IS A B*TCH, A DEVIL AND A
          VILE PERVERT AND ONE CANNOT HELP
          BUT TO TRULY HOPE THAT— SINCE SHE
          OBVIOUSLY FELT SOME STRANGE NEED
          TO BE SO VERY LOYAL TO THAT DEVIL,
          OF A PERVERTED CONVICTED-RAPIST
          AND ARSONIST FREAK OF A HUSBAND
          OF HERS AND TO CHOOSE TO STAND BY
          HIS SIDE FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY
          ALL THE WHILE THAT HE IMPRISONED
          AND ALSO SEXUALLY AND PHYSICALLY
          AND MENTALLY TORTURED THEIR
          CHILD — SHE WILL REMAINS BY
          HIS SIDE AS THEY BOTH BURN
          IN H*LL FOR ALL OF ETERNITY!!

          She is clearly as much of a
          pervert and devil as is he!!

          Would anyone even be remotely surprised
          if further investigation later revealed that
          ‘Rosemarie Fritzl’ (who is actually trying to
          get the world to see her as a co-victim of
          her daughter’s horrific nightmare of a life)
          was actually just another ‘Rosemary West’
          (a woman whose husband also originally –
          and falsely – claimed that she had nothing
          to do with his unbelievably evil sex crimes)?
          What kind of a woman, after all, chooses to marry
          (or remained married to) a man who had already
          committed and also been convicted of previously
          raping a
          • croyance Re: Pani Fritzl. 19.03.09, 20:19
            another woman and has shown absolutely
            no remorse about any of it whatsoever in the least.
            SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!! SHE KNEW!!!

            Nie wiem, czy ona wiedziala, czy nie, ale mysle, ze moze cos byc w
            tym toku argumentacji; zwlaszcza w swietle odkrycia sprawy Nataschy
            Kampusch. Przepraszam za dlugosc cytatu, ale mysle, ze jest to
            ciekawy punkt widzenia. Z tego, co jednak wiem, pani Fritzl zostala
            chyba uniewinniona ..?
            • hey_you3 Re: Pani Fritzl. 20.03.09, 01:16
              croyance napisała:

              > Z tego, co jednak wiem, pani Fritzl zostala
              > chyba uniewinniona ..?

              Nie była chyba wcale sądzona. Dla mnie to też grubymi nićmi szyte.

              Police quickly ruled out the possibility that Rosemarie Fritzl had any knowledge of her husband's activities after details of his horrific crimes emerged.

              The implication is that she never had any reason to go to the cellar or, if she did, she was discouraged by her husband without him raising any suspicions.

              Rosemarie's sister, Christine, has come forward to reveal Fritzl would often spend the whole evening in the cellar, but she corroborated the claim that Rosemarie knew nothing of what went on underneath her own home. "Often, he would spend whole nights down there," Christine told an Austrian newspaper. "Rosi wasn't even allowed to bring him a coffee." She described her older sister as "dominated and constantly belittled in public" by Fritzl.
              www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/30/austria.internationalcrime3
              • zlotyswit Re: Pani Fritzl. 20.03.09, 11:13
                Dziwne. Nie wydaje mi się żeby to było jakieś odkrywcze spostrzeżenie. Policja
                musiała ją podejrzewać, może wiedzą coś czego my nie wiemy? Może robił z nią
                jeszcze gorsze rzeczy? Poza tym jeżeli jakaś kobieta wiąże się z takim typem to
                coś musi być z nią nie tak.
    • moon_witch Re: Pani Fritzl. 19.03.09, 22:15
      zadna matka nigdy by nie zaprzestala poszukiwac swoje dziecko!
      Normalna kobieta przkopalaby ten dom od gory do dolu aby wyjasnic
      dlaczego powstaja te piwnice i gdzie sie podzialo jedzenie, czy te
      pieluchy ciagle kupowane dla niemowlat.
      Zreszta ...on juz zgwalcil jedna kobiete...
      • croyance Re: Pani Fritzl. 19.03.09, 23:09
        Zwlaszcza po naglosnionej przez media sprawie Nataschy Kampusch -
        sama z szoku zaczelam sie zastanawiac, czy nie mam przypadkiem w
        domu piwnicy i podejrzliwie patrzec na sasiadow, a co dopiero
        kobieta, w ktorej kraju to sie wydarzylo, ktorej corka zaginela, i
        ktorej maz rozbudowywal piwnice przez 20 lat ...
        • moon_witch Re: Pani Fritzl. 20.03.09, 17:05
          No wiec wlasnie. Moim zdaniem kobieta, ktora zyje z kims takim jak
          Fritzl ma problemy, powazne.Ona nawet nie reagowala, kiedy on
          znecal sie nad dziecmi. Ponoc zaraz po zniknieciu corki Elizabeth
          bylo podane jej zeznanie, gdzie mowi ze ojciec molestowal
          corke.Ale czy to prawda? Dlaczego nie rozwiedzie sie z tym
          potworem?
    • anaisanais Re: Pani Fritzl. 20.03.09, 17:43
      moim zdaniem ta kobieta prawdopodbnie byla jakos pod jego kontrola i
      mimo ze moze cos czula nie reagowala. nie wiem co nia kierowalo,
      strach pewnie? mysle ze wszystkie te dzieci i zona byly w jakis
      sposob manipulowane,a zona jest osoba latwo sie podporzadkowujaca
      prawdopodobnie.
      nie wszyscy ludzie sa tacy sami i maja takie same mozliwosci.
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