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Bush Kerry i wojna

IP: *.ny325.east.verizon.net 03.10.04, 19:31
Przyloczenie sie Polski do "koalicji" bylo spowodowane przekupstwem. Tze
rospetano 3 kampanie. 1. do wladzy doszli postkomunisci czyli Stolzman
Kwasniewski i towarzysze tej samej krwi. Oni zdecydowali sie odgrzac sprawe
Jedwabnego oraz powojennych przesuniec granicznych. To oni postawili narod i
Europe przed alternatywa - Polska wejdzie do Koalicji, albo zacznie sie
konflikt z niemcami. Wiekszosc Polakow jest przeciwna udzialowi Polski w
wojnie z Irakiem. To ze publicznosc sie smiala - nic dziwnego - 2 tysiace
polskich komandosow nie ma znaczenia w tej koalicji. Podobnie koalicja nie ma
znaczenia. Jest tylko USA i tylko USA. Nadzor jest Izraela. A bush wyglada i
mowi jak nieuk.

2, Bush powiedzial prawde: wojna jest w interesie Izraela. Jedyny cel -
stworzenie swiatowego impedrium sjonistycznego.

3. W czasie jednej ze swoich wypowiedzi, nie przerywany prze nikogo,
wtracil" "let me finish" - pozwol mi skonczyc - czyli mial w uchu
podpowiadacza i byl to jego rozkaz do istruktora.

4. Czy Kerry byl lepszy? Co do tego wszyscy sie zgadzaja. Ale to nie znaczy
ze Kerry chce przywrocic pokoj. To moze miec jedynie takie znaczenie ze
republikanie moga zwycistwo na bliskim wschodzie wykorzystac dla celow
imperializmu amerykanskiego, co nie jest celem Izraela. Kerry chce zaprzagnac
Europe i inne kraju do celu stworzenia imperium zydowskiego. Nic dziwnego ze
Soros popiera Kerry. Swiat nie ma wiec alternatywy - bedzie wojna
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    • Gość: wanniski Re: komentarz na temat debaty IP: *.ny325.east.verizon.net 04.10.04, 00:35
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      A Few Comments on the Debate


      Memo To: Website Fans, Browsers, Clients
      From: Jude Wanniski
      Re: Uninformed Political Leaders

      I asked my golfing buddy, Jim Biondi, 84, a lifelong Republican, how he thought
      President Bush did last night in the debate with Senator Kerry. He frowned and
      said Mr. Bush did not do that well. I agreed, and he asked why I thought Mr.
      Bush did not do well. "He is basically uninformed on important issues," I said.
      Biondi bristled: "The President isn't uninformed. He is the President. He has
      to be informed." I told my friend that ordinary Americans do not believe that
      their President can be the least informed, if his information comes to him from
      advisors who want him to do as they wish. Unless he is wise enough to see
      through this, he will make decisions that are not necessarily informed.

      The issue I raised, which I thought the low point in the debate as far as the
      President was concerned, involved North Korea and nuclear weapons. Here is the
      exchange I had in mind:


      Mr. Lehrer: New question, Mr. President. Do you believe that diplomacy and
      sanctions can resolve the nuclear problems with North Korea and Iran, taking
      them in any order you would like?

      Mr. Bush: North Korea first, I do. Let me say I certainly hope so. Before I was
      sworn in the policy of this government was to have bilateral negotiations with
      North Korea. And we signed an agreement with North Korea that my administration
      found out that was not being honored by the North Koreans.

      And so I decided that a better way to approach the issue was to get other
      nations involved, just besides us. And in Crawford, Tex., Jiang Zemin and I
      agreed that the, a nuclear-weapons-free North Korea peninsula was in his
      interest and our interest and the world's interest. And so we began a new
      dialogue with North Korea, one that included not only the United States but now
      China. And China's got a lot of influence over North Korea. In some ways more
      than we do. As well we included South Korea, Japan and Russia. So now there are
      five voices speaking to Kim Jong Il, not just one. And so if Kim Jong Il
      decides again to not honor an agreement he's not only doing injustice to
      America, be doing injustice to China as well. And I think this will work. It's
      not going to work if we open up a dialogue with Kim Jong Il. That's what he
      wants. He wants to unravel the six-party talks or the five-nation coalition
      that's sending him a clear message...

      Mr. Lehrer Senator Kerry, 90 seconds.

      Mr. Kerry: With respect to North Korea, the real story: We had inspectors and
      television cameras in the nuclear reactor in North Korea. Secretary Bill Perry
      negotiated that under President Clinton. And we knew where the fuel rods were.
      And we knew the limits on their nuclear power. Colin Powell, our secretary of
      state, announced one day that we were going to continue the dialogue and work
      with the North Koreans. The president reversed him, publicly, while the
      president of South Korea was here. And the president of South Korea went back
      to South Korea bewildered and embarrassed because it went against his policy.
      And for two years, this administration didn't talk at all to North Korea. While
      they didn't talk at all, the fuel rods came out, the inspectors were kicked
      out, the television cameras were kicked out and today there are four to seven
      nuclear weapons in the hands of North Korea. That happened on this president's
      watch. Now that, I think, is one of the most serious sort of reversals or mixed
      messages that you could possibly send…

      Mr. Lehrer: Yes sir, we-but in this one minute, I want to make sure that we
      understand - that the people watching here understand the differences between
      the two of you on this. You want to continue the multinational talks. Correct?

      Mr. Bush: Right.

      Mr. Lehrer: And you want - you're willing to do it.

      Mr. Kerry: Both. I want bilateral talks which put all of the issues from the
      armistice of 1952, the economic issues, the human rights issues, the artillery
      disposal issues, the D.M.Z. issues and the nuclear issues on the table.

      Mr. Lehrer: And you're opposed to that, sir. Right?

      Mr. Bush: The minute we have bilateral talks, the six-party talks will unwind.
      It's exactly what Kim Jong Il wants. And by the way, the breach on the
      agreement was not through plutonium. The breach on the agreement is highly
      enriched uranium. That's what we caught him doing. That's where he was breaking
      the agreement.
      * * * * *

      Bilateral? Multilateral? What Kim Jong Il wants? What's going on here. The fact
      is that the United States has been acting in bad faith with Pyongyang for the
      last decade. I mean our own Uncle Sam!! Mr. Bush himself acknowledges that
      before he became President, it was the policy of the United States to have
      bilateral talks with North Korea, but he STOPPED that policy because he learned
      that North Korea was violating the 1994 Accord that provided for bilateral
      talks.

      Now I am absolutely sure the President believes what he says, but in fact the
      North Koreans never violated any agreement with us. They have lived up to the
      letter and spirit of all their agreements with us, as far as I can tell. Kim
      Jong Il will happily agree to return to the Non-Proliferation Treaty and the
      Safeguards Agreement, which would permit the International Atomic Energy Agency
      to inspect any site in North Korea that seemed suspiciously to be part of a
      nuclear weapons program. But Kim is being most reasonable when he points out
      that Saddam Hussein made those same commitments and did in fact allow
      inspectors to snoop in every noon and cranny
    • Gość: Wanniski Re: Kerry ma zapewnione zwyciestwo IP: *.ny325.east.verizon.net 04.10.04, 00:42
      With only weeks before the 2 November elections in the United States, it is
      clear to informed Americans that if the rest of the world could vote for
      President, Sen John Kerry would win in a landslide.


      The reason of course is the war in Iraq. A survey of 35,000 people in 35
      countries this month showed Kerry winning 46% and President George W Bush
      winning only 20%. Even though Kerry is unknown, in many European countries Bush
      gets the support of fewer than 15% of those with an opinion: Germany 10%,
      France 5%, Norway 7%, Spain 7%, Italy 14%.

      In Britain, where Prime Minister Tony Blair is Bush's closest ally in the war
      on terror, Kerry beat the incumbent 47 percent to 16 percent.

      In a broader sense, the global electorate is not so much expressing an opinion
      about Iraq, but of the USA's "management" of the world. It is in that sense
      that the world is taking a greater interest in this election than it has in our
      lifetimes. This is because everyone in the world now lives in a unipolar world.

      After all, the end of the Cold War in 1991 marked not only the end of the
      Soviet experiment in communism, but also the dawn of a unique epoch in the
      history of civilization. For the first time since all humankind lived in the
      Garden of Eden, there was now only one nation that clearly sat atop the global
      pyramid of power.

      To answer the question, "What's going on in the USA?"; we can put it simply:
      The people of the United States are trying to figure out how to use its power
      through the same kind of trial and error process that brought it to the top of
      the global pyramid. It is now being forced to concede that it made a serious
      mistake in the way it dealt with Iraq.



      "All the rules have been written for a world of adversarial divisions".



      How shall we go about determining the limitations on our powers and the extent
      of our responsibilities? The questions are different than any Americans have
      ever encountered, requiring that our people think about the world differently
      than we ever have before. There is no historic guidebook to help us at this
      frontier of boundless opportunity.

      All the rules have been written for a world of adversarial divisions. This
      means we must think through with extraordinary care the steps we take and the
      paths we choose. Major missteps can only mean we will lose this preeminence and
      find new power pyramids forming to challenge our leadership.

      If we think of the United States as the "father" of the entire family of
      nations, what it did under Mr Bush 18 months ago was ignore the United Nations,
      the world's only legal framework for the adjudication of "family problems."
      Given the fact that Saddam Hussein did everything asked of him by the Security
      Council in permitting inspections for weapons of mass destruction, the
      President's decision to go to war seemed terribly unjust not only to most of
      the world, but also to many Americans who believed the UN diplomacy was working
      as it was designed to work.

      It is as if a father decided to severely beat one son for a perceived
      misbehaviour even though his wife and other children insisted the son had done
      no wrong.

      Whether Americans like it or not, the United States by this behaviour is viewed
      as a threat to the world, not a leader working to make the world a better,
      safer, more prosperous place. We now have UN General Secretary Kofi Annan so
      exasperated with the continued moves of the US in Iraq, and in other world
      trouble spots, that he is willing to label the Iraq invasion an "illegal" act.
      Perhaps Iraq is better off without Saddam Hussein, but if the war was
      unnecessary, as many as 100,000 people – military and civilian on all sides –
      have paid for the mistake with their lives. They are not better off.



      "It is now being forced to concede that it made a serious mistake in the way it
      dealt with Iraq".



      The reason I have been asked to write in this space is that I have made the
      argument in the American media for several years that it is the responsibility
      of our leaders to pay special attention to the opinions of the Islamic world.

      I say this as a Roman Catholic who has been a lifelong supporter of the state
      of Israel. The reason is that the United States is a Judeo-Christian nation in
      a world that contains more than 1.2 billion Muslims.

      A citizen of any other nation in the world who has a problem with the United
      States can have it addressed as long as he or she is a Protestant, Catholic or
      Jew. This is because there are Protestants, Catholics and Jews in every branch
      of the US government, at the highest levels of the executive branch, the
      Congress, and the Supreme Court.

      But there are no Muslims who participate in this policy-making apparatus. This
      is a primary source of disequilibrium in the world political economy.

      It was because I recognised this problem a dozen years ago that I made efforts
      to contact American Muslims, including Minister Louis Farrakhan, the leader of
      the Nation of Islam. He is the American Muslim most visible to the almost 300
      million Americans. Minister Farrakhan and I have become good friends, having
      spent countless hours with each other in conversation since our first meeting
      in December 1996. We have both benefited from the experience, I believe, and I
      have at least introduced him to several of my friends on Wall Street who are
      Jewish and who share my desire to bridge this political gap between the Judeo-
      Christian world and Islam.

      "If we think of the United States as the "father" of the entire family of
      nations, what it did under Mr. Bush 18 months ago was ignore the United
      Nations, the world's only legal"


      Indeed, on his world travels in recent years, Minister Farrakhan has made the
      same point I make in this essay… that the people of the United States should
      not be judged harshly because they are trying as best they can to figure out
      their responsibilities in this new unipolar world and are bound to make
      mistakes along the way.




      [Jude Wanniski founded Polyconomics, Inc., in New Jersey in 1978, to advise
      individual and institutional investors on the impact political decisions have
      on financial markets. Previously, he was associate editor of the Wall Street




      • Gość: a Re: kwasniewski popiera Kerry IP: *.nycmny83.covad.net 04.10.04, 16:25
        dlatego glosil ze wycofa polskie wojska w przyszlym roku. teraz Bush nie moze
        powiedziec ze ma jakas koalicje

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