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IP: *.aquanet.co.il 16.05.02, 12:05
Dear World:

It appears that you are hard to please. I understand that you are upset over
us, here in Israel. Indeed, it appears that you are quite upset, even angry and
outraged? Indeed, every few years you seem to become upset over us. Today, it
is the brutal repression of the Palestinians; yesterday, it was Lebanon; before
that it was the bombing of the nuclear reactor in Baghdad and the Yom Kippur
War campaign. It appears that Jews who triumph and who, therefore, live, upset
you most extraordinarily.

Of course, dear world, long before there was an Israel, we, the Jewish people -
upset you. We upset a German people who elected a Hitler and we upset an
Austrian people who cheered his entry into Vienna and we upset a whole slew of
Slavic nations - Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Russians, Hungarians,
Romanians.

And we go back a long, long way in the history of world upset. We upset the
Cossacks of Chmielnicki who massacred tens of thousands of us in 1648-49; we
upset the Crusaders who, on their way to liberate the Holy Land, were so upset
at Jews that they slaughtered untold numbers of us. We upset, for centuries, a
Roman Catholic Church that did its best to define our relationship through
Inquisitions. And we upset the arch-enemy of the Church, Martin Luther, who, in
his call to burn the synagogues and the Jews within them, showed an admirable
Christian ecumenical spirit. It is because we became so upset over upsetting
you, dear world, that we decided to leave you - in a manner of speaking - and
establish a Jewish State.

The reasoning was that living in close contact with you, as resident-strangers
in the various countries that comprise you, we upset you, irritate you, and
disturb you. What better notion, then, than to leave you and thus love you -
and have you love us? And so we decided to come home - to the same homeland
from which we were driven out 1,900 years earlier by a Roman world that,
apparently, we also upset. Alas, dear world, it appears that you are hard to
please. Having left you and your Pogroms and Inquisitions and Crusades and
Holocausts, having taken our leave of the general world to live alone in our
own little state? We continue to upset you.

You are upset that we repress the Palestinians. You are deeply angered over the
fact that we do not give up the lands of 1967, which are clearly the obstacle
to peace in the Middle East. Moscow is upset and Washington is upset. The Arabs
are upset and the gentle Egyptian moderates are upset.

Well, dear world, consider the reaction of a normal Jew from Israel. In 1920,
1921 and 1929, there were no territories of 1967 to impede peace between Jews
and Arabs. Indeed, there was no Jewish State to upset anybody. Nevertheless,
the same oppressed and repressed Palestinians slaughtered hundreds of Jews in
Jerusalem, Jaffa, Safed and Hebron. Indeed, 67 Jews were slaughtered one day in
Hebron - in 1929. Dear world, why did the Arabs - the Palestinians - massacre
67 Jews in one day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli
aggression in 1967? And why were 510 Jewish men, women and children slaughtered
in Arab riots in 1936-39? Was it because of Arab upset over 1967? And when you,
World, proposed a UN Partition Plan in 1947 that would have created a
Palestinian State alongside a tiny Israel and the Arabs cried and went to war
and
killed 6,000 Jews - was that upset stomach caused by the aggression of 1967?
And, by the way, dear world, why did we not hear your cry of upset then? The
Palestinians who today kill Jews with explosives and firebombs and stones are
part of the same people who - when they had all the territories they now demand
be given them for their state - attempted to drive the Jewish State into the
sea. The same twisted faces, the same hate, the same cry of "idbah-al-yahud" -
"Slaughter the Jews!" that we hear and see today, were seen and heard then.
The same people, the same dream - destroy Israel.

What they failed to do yesterday, they dream of today - but we should
not "repress" them.
Dear world, you stood by the Holocaust and you stood by in 1948 as seven states
launched a war that the Arab League proudly compared to the Mongol massacres.
You stood by in 1967 as Nasser, wildly cheered by wild mobs in every Arab
capital in the world, vowed to drive the Jews into the sea.

And you would stand by tomorrow if Israel were facing extinction. And since we
know that the Arabs-Palestinians daily dream of that extinction, we will do
everything possible to remain alive in our own land. If that bothers you, dear
world, well - think of how many times in the past you bothered us.

In any event, dear world, if you are bothered by us, here is one Jew in Israel
who could not care less.

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    • werw Re: Kochany Swiecie: 16.05.02, 13:01
      Though J truely understand, there are, at least, some exceptions
      Shalom Israel!
      • Gość: Esq. Re: Kochany Swiecie: IP: *.aquanet.co.il 16.05.02, 13:28
        werw napisał(a):

        > Though J truely understand, there are, at least, some exceptions
        > Shalom Israel!

        Shalom Shalom Werw
        Oczywiscie, there are always exceptions to every rule, this is just one point
        that should be taken into consideration.
        Widze ze wladasz takze jezykiem angielskim, dla mnie polski jest troche cieszki,
        dawno go nieuzywalem
        • werw Re: Kochany Swiecie: 16.05.02, 16:05
          Ja mam ten sam problem z angielskim
    • kochanka Re: Kochany Swiecie: 16.05.02, 13:50
      Gość portalu: Esq. napisał(a):

      >
      > In any event, dear world, if you are bothered by us, here is one Jew in Israel
      > who could not care less.
      >
      And that my friends should be Israel's foreign policy. Fuck the world fuck the
      public opinion which couldn't give a rats ass what happens to Israel. There is
      nothing Israel could do to peacefully stop demented Palestinians from killing
      innocent civilians. NOTHING!!!! The individuals carrying on with suicide
      bombings may believe that they are dying for the freedom of their people but
      their leaders are only interesting in fighting the Jews. That is the truth and
      the Palestinian State is just a smoke screen.

      • Gość: Esq. Re: Kochany Swiecie: IP: *.aquanet.co.il 16.05.02, 14:04
        kochanka napisał(a):

        > Gość portalu: Esq. napisał(a):
        >
        > >
        > > In any event, dear world, if you are bothered by us, here is one Jew in Is
        > rael
        > > who could not care less.
        > >
        > And that my friends should be Israel's foreign policy. Fuck the world fuck the
        > public opinion which couldn't give a rats ass what happens to Israel. There is
        >
        > nothing Israel could do to peacefully stop demented Palestinians from killing
        > innocent civilians. NOTHING!!!! The individuals carrying on with suicide
        > bombings may believe that they are dying for the freedom of their people but
        > their leaders are only interesting in fighting the Jews. That is the truth and
        > the Palestinian State is just a smoke screen.
        >

        You are 100% right, but as a democratic country we still have to deal with
        bleeding hearts that have not learned their own history. They still delude
        themselves into thinking that appeasement will get them somewhere. This didn't
        work in the past it will not work in the future.
        • werw Re: Kochany Swiecie: 16.05.02, 16:04
          Zwłaszcza że arabstwo doskonalne zna nasze słabe punkty i w nie właśnie
          rozmyślnie uderza: chęć życia i pragnienie normalności.
          Dlatego nie można, jak sądzę, odwoływać się do wartości bliskich jedynie nam;
          dla nich to jedynie objaw zniewieściałości.
          Trzeba sięgnąć po katalog metod, które oni rozumieją, zadać sobie pytanie co
          oni cenią i czego się boją: honor, siła, zemsta, wieprzowina
          Popraw mnie jeśli się mylę: żyjąc w Polsce trzeba się nieźle starać żeby
          zrozumieć bliskowschodnie realia.
          • Gość: Esq. Re: Kochany Swiecie: IP: *.aquanet.co.il 16.05.02, 17:57
            werw napisał(a):

            > Zwłaszcza że arabstwo doskonalne zna nasze słabe punkty i w nie właśnie
            > rozmyślnie uderza: chęć życia i pragnienie normalności.
            > Dlatego nie można, jak sądzę, odwoływać się do wartości bliskich jedynie nam;
            > dla nich to jedynie objaw zniewieściałości.
            > Trzeba sięgnąć po katalog metod, które oni rozumieją, zadać sobie pytanie co
            > oni cenią i czego się boją: honor, siła, zemsta, wieprzowina
            > Popraw mnie jeśli się mylę: żyjąc w Polsce trzeba się nieźle starać żeby
            > zrozumieć bliskowschodnie realia.

            Oni szanuja tylko i wylacznie brutalna sile. Tak bylo w Syrii (okolo 10.000
            zabitych) i Jordanii (okolo 5.000 zabitych) i dlatego dzisiaj tam nie maja z
            Arafatem klopotu. My tak nie potrafimy. Fakt jest ze my nie potrafimy uzywac
            jezyka arabskiego. Moze w przyszlosci, nie majac innego wyjscia bedziemy musieli
            tak sie zachowywac jak oni. Ale szkoda.
      • werw Re: Kochany Swiecie: 16.05.02, 16:11
        Byc może tak wierzą ale to ich NIE USPRAWIEDLIWIA. Nie jest chyba tak, ze nie
        mają wzorców innego świata, nie znają innych zachowań. Większość z nich zna
        chyba i Izrael i Żydów doskonale, wielu z nich codziennie tam pracuje (czy też
        pracowało) i wiedzą że zabijają zwykłych ludzi: młodych, starych, głupich,
        błyskotliwych, serdecznych i złośliwych. No i dzieci. W szkole, dyskotece, na
        randce w pizzeri. Gówno ma znaczenie w co wierzą trzeba ich wytępić jak wszy
    • werw Re: Kochany Swiecie: 30.05.02, 15:51
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