Cele i dyrektywy polityki USA ......

Gość: diabeł Re: Cele i dyrektywy polityki USA ...... IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 02.10.02, 19:13

się przykładem udanej alternatywy w stosunku do modelu kapitalistycznego.
Posługując się całym arsenałem sztuczek i taktyki - od otwartych ataków i
dezinformacji do terroryzmu i brytyjskiego legalizmu - USA i UK w końcu
sprawiły, że Jagan przegrał w 1964 roku. John F. Kennedy wydał swoim agentom
bezpośredni rozkaz, tak jak prawdopodobnie poprzednio Eisenhower.

Jeden z krajów, którym najlepiej się powodziło w regionie, Gujana w czasie
rządów Jagana, do lat 80-tych stał się najbiedniejszy. Jego głównym "towarem"
importowym byli ludzie.

Wietnam, 1950-73: Cała historia rozpoczęła się od opowiedzenia się za Francją,
wcześniejszym kolonizatorem i państwem, które współpracowało z Japonią
przeciwko Ho Chi Minowi i tym, którzy go popierali i blisko współpracowali z
aliantami i podziwiali mocno Amerykę. Ho Chi Min był mimo wszystko pewnego
rodzaju komunistą. Napisał masę listów do prezydenta Trumana i Departamentu
Stanu, prosząc o pomoc Ameryki w zdobyciu przez Wietnam niepodległości,
wyzwoleniu się od Francji i znalezieniu pokojowej drogi do rozwoju Wietnamu.
Wszystkie jego prośby zostały zignorowane. Tylko dlatego, że był on pewnego
rodzaju komunistą. Ho Chi Min opracował nową wietnamską deklarację
niepodległości na wzór amerykańskiej; zaczynała się od słów: "Wszyscy ludzie
zostali stworzeni jako równi. Stwórca wspiera ich w...". Ale w Waszyngtonie to
nie miało żadnego znaczenia. Ho Chi Min był pewnego rodzaju komunistą.

Dwadzieścia trzy lata i ponad milion zabitych; w końcu Stany Zjednoczone
wycofały swoje siły z Wietnamu. Większość ludzi uważa, że USA przegrały wojnę.
Ale przez zniszczenie w pień Wietnamu oraz zatrucie ziemi Waszyngton osiągnął
tak naprawdę swój główny cel: zapobiegł temu, co mogło się stać powstaniem
właściwej opcji rozwoju dla Azji. Przecież Ho Chi Min był pewnego rodzaju
komunistą.

Kambodża, 1955-73: Książę Sihanouk, jeszcze jeden lider, któremu nie spieszyło
się do zostania kolejnym klientem Stanów Zjednoczonych. Po wielu latach
wrogości w stosunku do jego rządów, która przejawiała się między innymi w
przygotowaniu planu jego zgładzenia oraz potępianych utajnionych
bombardowaniach dywanowych w latach 1969-70 przeprowadzonych przez Nixona i
Kissingera, Waszyngton w końcu obalił Sihanouka w wyniku zamachu stanu w 1970
roku. To wystarczyło, by zachęcić siły Pol Pota i jego Czerwonych Khmerów do
wkroczenia. Pięć lat później przejęli władzę. Ale pierwsze lata bombardowań
amerykańskich sprawiły, że tradycyjna gospodarka Kambodży przestała istnieć.
Stara Kambodża została na zawsze zniszczona.

Co niewiarygodne, Czerwoni Khmerzy mieli wywołać w swoim kraju jeszcze większe
spustoszenie. Jak na ironię, Stany Zjednoczone wspierały Pol Pota, militarnie i
dyplomatycznie, po tym jak zostały pokonane w Wietnamie.

Kongo/Zair, 1960-65: W czerwcu 1960 Patrice Lumumba został pierwszym premierem
Kongo po uzyskaniu niepodległości od Belgii. Ale Belgia zatrzymała dla siebie
olbrzymie bogactwa naturalne w prowincji Katanga, administracja Eisenhowera
była również związana finansowo z tymi minerałami, a Lumumba, w czasie Dnia
Niepodległości, przed tłumem zagranicznych dygnitarzy wzywał do gospodarczego,
jak i politycznego wyzwolenia swojego narodu i przytoczył listę
niesprawiedliwości, których zaznali jego obywatele ze strony białych zarządców
państwa. Ten skromny człowiek był z pewnością "komunistą". Jego dni były
najpewniej policzone.

Dwanaście dni później Katanga odłączyła się, we wrześniu Lumumba został
zdymisjonowany przez prezydenta pod naciskami Stanów Zjednoczonych, a w
styczniu 1961 roku został zamordowany za natychmiastowym poleceniem Dwighta
Eisenhowera. Nadeszły lata wojny domowej i chaosu, i dojścia do władzy Mobutu
Sese Seko, człowieka nie nieznanego CIA. Mobutu przyszedł i rządził w swoim
kraju przez ponad 30 lat, opierając się na korupcji i okrucieństwie, które
wstrząsnęły nawet ludzi z CIA. Ludzie Zairu żyli w stanie totalnego ubóstwa,
pomimo bogatych złóż dóbr naturalnych. Mobutu stał się multimiliarderem.

Brazylia, 1961-64: Prezydent Joao Goulart był zwykłym przestępcą: obrał kurs
nastawiony na niezależność w polityce międzynarodowej, wznawiając stosunki z
państwami komunistycznymi i przeciwstawiając się sankcjom przeciwnko Kubie;
jego administracja uchwaliła prawo ograniczające kapitał, który firmy
międzynarodowe mogły przekazywać za granicę; przedsiębiorstwo ITT zostało
znacjonalizowane; promował też reformy ekonomiczne i społeczne. I minister
sprawiedliwości Robert Kennedy niepokoił się, że Goulart pozwala "komunistom"
zajmować posady w agencjach rządowych. Ale człowiek ten nie był radykałem. Był
milionerem, posiadaczem ziemskim i katolikiem, który na szyi nosił medalik z
Marią Dziewicą. Jednak to nie wystarczyło, by go ocalić. W 1964 roku został
obalony w wojskowym zamachu stanu, w którym Amerykanie odegrali znaczącą,
półoficjalną rolę. Komentarz Waszyngtonu brzmiał - tak, to przykre, że w
Brazylii obalono demokrację...., ale przynajmniej kraj został ocalony od
komunizmu.

W ciągu następnych 15 lat ustanowiono wszystkie formy militarnej dyktatury,
które poznała i pokochała Ameryka Łacińska: zamknięto kongres, opozycja
polityczna została ograniczona praktycznie do zera, zawieszono ściganie zbrodni
na tle politycznym, krytyka prezydenta została prawnie zabroniona, związki
zawodowe przejęli rządowi agenci, nasilające się protesty spotykały się z
policyjnym i wojskowym ostrzałem, domy rolników palono, gnębiono księży...
uprowadzenia, szwadrony śmierci, masowa ilość bezlitosnych tortur... rząd
ochrzcił swój program "moralną rehabilitacją" Brazylii.

Waszyngton był bardzo zadowolony. Brazylia zerwała stosunki z Kubą i stała się
jednym z najbardziej wiernych sojuszników Stanów Zjednoczonych w Ameryce
Łacińskiej.

Republika Dominikany, 1963-66: W lutym 1963 Juan Bosch zaczął sprawować urząd
jako pierwszy demokratycznie wybrany prezydent Republiki Dominikany od 1924
roku. W końcu pojawił się liberalny antykomunista Johna F. Kennedy'ego, aby
odeprzeć oskarżenia, że USA wspierają tylko dyktatury wojskowe. Rząd Boscha
miał być "przykładową demokracją", która mogłaby stawić czoło Fidelowi Castron.
Zanim tylko zajął swój urząd, był wspaniale przyjmowany w Waszyngtonie.

Bosch wierzył w to, co robi. Wezwał do reformy rolnej, budowy tanich domów,
skromnej nacjonalizacji biznesu, aby zagraniczni inwestorzy nie starali się
eksploatować za bardzo jego kraju, i innych programów, które sprawiały, że
polityka wszystkich liberalnych przywódców Trzeciego Świata była zatroskana
zmianą społeczną. Podobnie na serio traktował on rzeczy znane jako swobody
polityczne. Komuniści, lub ci ochrzczeni w ten sposób, nie mogli być
prześladowani dopóki rzeczywiście nie złamali prawa.

Wielu urzędników administracji amerykańskiej i kongresmani wyrażali swoje
niezadowolenie co do planów Boscha i co do jego stanowiska głoszącego
niezależność od Stanów Zjednoczonych. Reforma rolna i nacjonalizacja dla
Waszyngtonu od zawsze były wrażliwymi tematami, określającymi rzeczy, którymi
posługuje się "pełzający socjalizm". Kilka redakcji pism amerykańskich
próbowało zarzucić na Boscha jakąś przynętę.

We wrześniu wojsko wyszło na ulice. Boscha nie było wtedy w kraju. Stany
Zjednoczone, które były w stanie stłumić jakikolwiek przewrót wojskowy w
Ameryce Łacińskiej nie kiwnęły palcem.

Dziewiętnaście miesięcy później rozgorzała rewolta, która miała na celu oddać z
powrotem władzę przebywającemu za granicą Boschowi. Stany Zjednoczone wysłały
23.000 żołnierzy, aby ją stłumili.

Kuba, od 1959 do dzisiaj: Fidel Castro doszedł do władzy na początku 1959 roku.
10 marca 1959 roku zebrała się Rada Bezpieczeństwa Narodowego USA, rozważając
między innymi możliwość sprawienia, aby "inny rząd doszedł do władzy na Kubie".
Potem nastąpił okres 40 lat terrorystycznych ataków, bom

Gość: Mrowa Re: Cele i dyrektywy polityki USA ...... IP: 134.174.196.* 02.10.02, 19:31

Ziutek, dawaj trzecia czesc tych wypocin, bo glupio tak przerywac czytanie w
trakcie :).
- Gość: ziutek Re: Cele i dyrektywy polityki USA ...... IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 02.10.02, 20:22
  
  Gość portalu: Mrowa napisał(a):
  
  ) Ziutek, dawaj trzecia czesc tych wypocin, bo glupio tak przerywac czytanie w
  ) trakcie :).
  
  Potem nastąpił okres 40 lat terrorystycznych ataków, bombardowania, otwartych
  inwazji militarnych, sankcji, embargo, izolowania, zamachów... Kuba
  przeprowadziła Niewybaczalną Rewolucję, bardzo poważne zagrożenie ze względu
  na "dobry przykład" dla całej Ameryki Łacińskiej.
  
  Najsmutniejszą częścią tej opowieści jest fakt, że świat nigdy się nie dowie,
  jakiego rodzaju społeczeństwo zbudowałaby Kuba, gdyby pozostawiono ją w
  spokoju, a nie pod ciągłym ogniem i ustawicznymi groźbami inwazji, gdyby
  umożliwiono jej znieść ścisłą kontrolę wewnętrzną. Idealizm, wizja, talent,
  internacjonalizm - wszystko tam mieliśmy. Ale już nigdy się nie dowiemy. I
  właśnie o to chodziło
  
  Indonezja, 1965: Złożony łańcuch zdarzeń, prawdopodobnie z zamiarem
  przeprowadzenia zamachu stanu włącznie, a także kontr-zamachu i kontr-kontr-
  zamachu - wszędzie tam Amerykanie odcisnęli swoje piętno. W rezultacie
  odsunięto od władzy Sukarno i zastąpiono go władzami wojskowymi, którym
  przewodził generał Suharto. Zaraz potem rozpoczęły się masakry - komunistów,
  tych, którzy sympatyzowali z komunizmem, domniemanych komunistów oraz
  domniemanych sympatyków komunizmu - i nikogo więcej. Zostały one określone
  przez New York Times jako "jedna z najdzikszych rzezi w nowoczesnej historii
  polityki". Liczba ofiar w ciągu kilku lat osiągnęła pół miliona, choć inne
  źródła mówią o milionie i więcej.
  
  Później się dowiedziano, że amerykańska ambasada stworzyła listy
  działaczy "komunistycznych", od najwyżej usadowionych prominentów, po kadry na
  wsiach, jakieś 50.000 nazwisk, i przekazała je armii, która następnie
  rozpoczęła polowania na te osoby i mordowała je. Amerykanie następnie mieli
  weryfikować te listy i zestawiać je z osobami zabitymi lub aresztowanymi. "To
  była wielka pomoc dla armii. Prawdopodobnie zabili oni mnóstwo ludzi, a ja
  prawdopodobnie mam mnóstwo krwi na swoich rękach", powiedział jeden dyplomata
  amerykański. "Ale nie należy tego wszystkiego potępiać. Są chwile, gdy trzeba
  mocno uderzyć".
  
  Chile, 1964-73: Salvador Allende był dla imperialisty waszyngtońskiego
  najgorszym z możliwych scenariuszem. Imperialista ten był sobie w stanie
  wyobrazić tylko jedną rzecz gorszą od marksisty przy władzy - marksista przy
  władzy, który został wybrany, który przestrzegał konstytucję i stał się
  niesamowicie popularny. Potrząsnęło to samymi fundamentami, na których osadzona
  była wieża antykomunizmu: doktryna, boleśnie kultywowana przez dekady,
  że "komuniści" mogą zdobyć władzę tylko dzięki przemocy i podstępom, że mogą
  utrzymać się przy niej jedynie przez terroryzowanie i robienie ludziom papki z
  mózgów.
  
  Po dokonaniu sabotażu wyborczych zamierzeń Allende w 1964 roku, i
  niepowodzeniach w 1970, pomimo szczerych wysiłków, CIA oraz reszta
  amerykańskiej maszynerii polityki zagranicznej nie zrezygnowała z żadnych
  środków w swoich próbach zdestabilizowania rządu Allende przez kolejne trzy
  lata, zwracając szczególną uwagę, aby wytworzyć wrogość militarną. W końcu we
  wrześniu 1973 roku wojsko obaliło rząd, Allende zginął w czasie tych działań.
  
  W końcu dokonano zamknięcia państwa na świat zewnętrzny na tydzień, w czasie
  którego czołgi przetaczały się przez ulice, a żołnierze wyłamywali drzwi;
  stadiony rozbrzmiewały od dźwięków egzekucji, a ciała walały się po ulicach i
  pływały w rzekach; uruchomiono miejsca tortur; wywrotowe książki wrzucono w
  płomienie; żołnierze zdzierali z kobiet spodnie, krzycząc "w Chile kobiety
  noszą spódnice!"; biedni wrócili do swojego stanu naturalnego; a panowie świata
  w Waszyngtonie i w salach międzynarodowych instytucji finansowych otworzyli
  swoje książeczki czekowe. W końcu - ponad 3.000 osób zostało rozstrzelanych,
  tysiące torturowano, tysiące zaginęły.
  
  Grecja, 1964-74: Wojskowy zamach stanu miał miejsce w kwietniu 1967 roku,
  dokładnie dwa dni przed rozpoczęciem narodowej kampanii wyborczej, która na sto
  procent miała przywrócić na stanowisko premiera weterana - przywódcę
  liberalnego - George Papandreou. Papandreou został wybrany w lutym 1964 roku
  zdecydowaną większością głosów, pierwszą w całej historii nowożytnej Grecji.
  Natychmiast rozpoczęto, z udanym skutkiem, dokonywać różnych machinacji, aby
  podważyć jego pozycję - była to połączona akcja Trybunału Królewskiego,
  generałów greckiego oraz amerykańskiego wojska i CIA, które stacjonowały w
  Grecji. Przewrót z 1967 roku został poprzedzony zwyczajowymi w takich
  okolicznościach stanem wojennym, cenzurą, aresztowaniami, biciem, torturami i
  mordem - z liczbą ofiar sięgającą 8.000 w pierwszym miesiącu. Towarzyszyła temu
  równie tradycyjna deklaracja, że wszystko to uczyniono, by ochronić naród
  przed "przejęciem przez komunistów". Nadwerężające system i wywrotowe wpływy na
  życie Greków miały zostać wyeliminowane. Należały do nich spódniczki mini,
  długie włosy oraz obce czasopisma; uczęszczanie przez dzieci do kościoła miało
  być obowiązkowe.
  
  Jednak to tortury okazały się wręcz nieusuwalnym znamieniem siedmioletniego
  greckiego piekła. James Becket, prawnik amerykański wysłany do Grecji przez
  Amnesty International napisał w grudniu 1969 roku, że "najbardziej ostrożne
  oceny mogą wskazać na nie mniej niż dwa tysiące" ludzi torturowanych, zwykle w
  najokrutniejszy sposób, przeważnie za pomocą urządzeń dostarczonych przez Stany
  Zjednoczone.
  
  Becket doniósł, co następuje:
  
  Setki więźniów wysłuchało krótkiej przemowy inspektora Basila Lambrou, który
  siedzi za biurkiem z czerwono-biało-niebieskim symbolem ściśniętych dłoni
  pomocy amerykańskiej. Próbuje uświadomić więźniów o całkowitej daremności
  oporu. "Jesteście śmieszni, jeśli myślicie, że możecie cokolwiek zrobić. Świat
  jest podzielony na dwie części. Z jednej strony są komuniści, a z drugiej -
  wolny świat. Rosjanie i Amerykanie - i nic poza tym. A kim my jesteśmy?
  Amerykanami. Za mną stoi rząd, za rządem NATO, za NATO, USA. Nie możecie nas
  pokonać. Jesteśmy Amerykanami".
  
  George Papandreou nie był żadnym radykałem. Był typem liberalnego
  antykomunisty. Ale jego synowi, Andreasowi, prawowitemu następcy, choć tylko
  trochę bardziej na lewo od swojego ojca, nie była obca myśl, aby wyciągnąć
  Grecję z zimnej wojny; protestował przeciwko pozostaniu w NATO, lub
  przynajmniej w roli satelity Stanów Zjednoczonych.
  
  Wschodni Timor, od 1975 do dzisiaj: W grudniu 1975 roku Indonezja najechała na
  Wschodni Timor, który leży na wschodnim krańcu archipelagu indonezyjskiego, i
  która ogłosiła swoją niezależność po tym, jak Portugalia zaniechała swojej
  kontroli nad tym terytorium. Inwazja rozpoczęła się dzień po tym, jak prezydent
  USA Gerald Ford oraz sekretarz stanu Henry Kissinger wyjechali z Indonezji po
  przekazaniu Suharto zgody na użycie broni amerykańskiej, która, według prawa
  amerykańskiego, nie może zostać wykorzystana w celach innych niż obronne.
  Indonezja była dla Waszyngtonu najbardziej wartościowym narzędziem w Azji
  Południowo-Wschodniej.
  
  Amnesty International obliczył, że do roku 1989, żołnierze indonezyjscy, w
  ramach realizacji celu zajęcia Wschodniego Timoru, zabili 200.000 ludzi z
  ludności liczącej od 600.000 do 700.000. Stany Zjednoczone konsekwentnie
  wspierała żądania Indonezji w stosunku do Timoru Wschodniego (przeciwnie do
  polityki ONZ i UE), i bagatelizowała rozmiary rzezi, jednocześnie dostarczając
  Indonezji całego sprzętu militarnego oraz szkolenia, aby udało się pomyślnie
  przeprowadzić akcję do końca.
  
  Nikaragua, 1978-89: Kiedy sandiniści obalili dyktaturę Somozy w 1978 roku, dla
  Waszyngtonu było jasne, że mogą się oni stać niebezpieczną bestią - "kolejną
  Kubą". Pod rządami prezydenta Cartera próby przeprowadzenia sabotażu rewolucji
  przybrały dyplomatyczne i ekonomiczne formy. Administracja Reagana wybrała
  przemoc. Przez osiem długich lat ludnoś

Gość: John Wayne Re: Cele i dyrektywy diabla IP: *.arc.nasa.gov 02.10.02, 20:23

Ile jeszcze kilogramow tej komunistycznej makulatury masz
do wydrukowania ?

Teraz to dobry dowcip. Kiedys za robienie z tego dowcipu
w Polsce byly powazne konsekwencje.

Gość: diabeł to John Wayne from KKK IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 02.10.02, 22:57

Gość portalu: John Wayne napisał(a):

> Ile jeszcze kilogramow tej komunistycznej makulatury masz
> do wydrukowania ?
>
> Teraz to dobry dowcip. Kiedys za robienie z tego dowcipu
> w Polsce byly powazne konsekwencje.

niestety, autor tego artykułu nie ma nic wspólnego z komunistami co łatwo można
sprawdzić (poniżej)
odnosnie jego artykułu : amerykanie piszący tu po polsku moga popierać
amerykańską polityke bo byc może jest to w ich interesie, natomiast nas tutaj w
Polsce mało interesują amerykańskie interesy.

William Blum
Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions

William Blum left the U.S. State Department in 1967, abandoning his aspiration
of becoming a Foreign Service Officer because of his opposition to what the
United States was doing in Viet Nam. Two years later he published an exposé of
the CIA which was followed by numerous writings which unmasked Washington's
interventions around the world. Blum was in Chile writing about the government
of Salvador Allende, who wasoverthrown by the CIA in 1973; he worked with
former CIA agent Philip Agee to expose CIA personnel and their misdeeds in
London; and he authored two book, Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA
Interventions Since World War II and Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only
Superpower. Blum was honored with a 1998 Project Censored award for
his "exemplary journalism"
- Gość: diabeł not only to John Wayne from KKK IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 02.10.02, 23:03
  
  The Bloody Road to Empire
  An interview with William Blum
  by David Ross
  Arcata, California
  
  William Blum quit his job at the State Department in 1967 because of his
  opposition to the U.S. governmentís war in Vietnam. He became a freelance
  journalist and author exposing U.S. malfeasance around the world, culminating
  in his all encompassing and extensively documented book, Killing Hope: U.S.
  Military and CIA Intervention Since World War II. Noam Chomsky, reportedly the
  most quoted scholar in the world, lauded Killing Hope. The first edition, he
  wrote, was far and away the best book on the topic. Blum's latest book, Rouge
  State: A Guide to the Worlds Only Superpower, further exposes the dirty
  underbelly of the U.S. Empire. Both books are must read material.
  
  David Ross: In Killing Hope you have fifty-four chapters on different
  interventions by the U.S. government into sovereign countries around the world.
  William Blum: Well, many of the chapters deal with multiple interventions.
  There are probably well over a hundred separate and serious interventions by
  the U.S. government into maybe seventy or eighty countries, in which I deal
  with.
  DR: How do you define an intervention?
  Blum: Well, Iíve confined it to serious interventions. I donít want to be
  accused of being picayune, of criticizing our government for every little
  foible or statement. I'm talking about the attempt to overthrow governments,
  whether successful or not, suppressing popular revolutions, or popular
  movements, against very suppressive governments. I'm talking about
  assassinations, about serious interference in foreign elections, great
  manipulation of the media, subverting labor unions, things like that. Those are
  the elements, some of whichóor sometimes all of them are included in the
  interventions which I deal with.
  DR: Let's talk about your chapter on Greece 1947 to early 1950's: From Cradle
  of Democracy to Client State Now, a lot of people don't know that the U.S.
  Government intervened in Greece.
  Blum: Well, the average American is unaware of the great bulk of the case
  studies in my book. Which is why I wrote it. I felt there was a big gap to be
  filled. Greece was one example of about half a dozen after the Second World War
  where the U.S. took the side of its supposed former enemies, aiding people who
  had been Nazis or had served the Nazis, or the Japanese. There are at least
  half a dozen of these countries. And in the case of Greece, there was a civil
  war going on. On one side you had the Greek right wing, which had actively
  corroborated with the Nazis who had occupied Greece during the war. On the
  other side you had the left, which had fought against the Nazis and had
  successfully forced them to leave the country. Now, which of those two sides do
  you think the U.S. government took? Of course the side which had been pro-Nazi.
  What the U.S. government feared most was a left wing, socialist, or communist
  government anywhere in the worldóincluding Europe, of courseóand they had to
  suppress that in its infancy.
  DR: That's the threat to the powers that be, in generalóany type of a
  redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor.
  Blum: Right. Well, any place in the world where there has been the possibility
  of a successful example to the capitalist model, thatís where the U.S. has
  intervened. And that's why they have been so unrelenting in their hostility
  towards Cuba. Cuba was seen immediately as a possible successful example to the
  capitalist model, and so the U.S. policy has been aimed at making sure that the
  Cuba revolution could not be successful, and they have caused it untold harm,
  in a thousand ways. And weíll never know what the Cuban revolution might have
  turned into, because the U.S. made life so impossible for it. But even so, for
  decadesóand even todayóthe Cuba revolution has inspired people all over the
  third world. So the U.S. has been quite right from this point of view in seeing
  that the Cuba revolution threatened to be a good example which would inspire
  other third world people, and that has been the motivation behind their
  intervention. And I can name two-dozen other places where the same motivation
  came into play to suppress any such possible success.
  DR: Thatís what Noam Chomsky wrote about the independence movement in Vietnam.
  It was the threat of a ìgood example.
  Blum: Right. And I would say, as would Chomsky, that contrary to common belief,
  the U.S. did not lose the war in Vietnamóit succeeded in achieving its
  purposeóto make sure that Vietnam would be a basket case, as they made sure
  Iraq would be a basket case, and in 1999, they made sure that Yugoslavia would
  be a basket case. We turn any possible good example into a basket case, and
  thatís the crux of our foreign policy. Which is very hard for the average
  American to believe. They canít believe that their government can be so
  malicious-minded, and they call people like me a conspiracy nut, because Iíve
  applied a connection between these apparently far-removed eventsóand my book
  shows a great connection.
  DR: How about your chapter on Chile. In 1964 to 1973 the U.S Government
  intervened, you sub-titled the chapter: ìA Hammer and Sickle Stamped on Your
  Childís Forehead?
  Blum: That was a poster put up in Chile by the right wing, implying that if
  Salvador Allende was victorious and became President, that the children of
  Chile would have a hammer and sickle stamped on their foreheads. That was a
  major intervention by the U.S., again, to prevent a good example. In fact, this
  particular example carried with it a very additional special threat, here, it
  would not even be a revolution, which is a result of a coup, but it would be
  the result of a legal, democratic, and fair election. And this would be totally
  contrary to all that we have been taught about in the cold war about communism,
  or so-called communismóthat they can take power only through violence, and they
  can retain power only through great suppression and oppression of the
  population. And here you had a man, Salvador Allende, who had won a free
  election, and in the course of his three-years-plus in power, his party had
  significantly increased its share of the vote. And it was after the last
  election, in 1973, when the U.S. government and their Chilean allies saw that
  they would be unable to defeat Allendeís socialist party in elections, they
  knew the only recourse was a coup. And the CIA had been prepping the military
  for three years to make them hostile to the governmentóin countless waysóand to
  create chaos in the society, economic chaos, which would give the military the
  excuse to take power. It worked just as they intended.
  DR: How about your chapter on ìGuatemala 1962 to 1980ís: A Less Publicized
  ëFinal Solution?
  Blum: Final Solution, which is, of course, a reference to the holocaust. What
  has been done to the people of Guatemala, and particularly the Native Indian
  population, is every bit as horrible as what was done to the Jews in Europe. We
  donít hear about it much; we certainly donít call it a holocaust, because our
  side did it with great support by the U.S. governmentóall the wayófor forty
  years. In 1954 we overthrew a legally elected government, a very benevolent
  government; a social democratic government, we would call it today. We
  overthrew that, and for forty years, almost, the level of horror in Guatemala
  set all kinds of records, for this sad world.
  DR: Iíve read that over two hundred thousand people were killed in Guatemala.
  Now, this was in support of United Brands Fruit, which became Chiquita Banana?
  Blum: Initially. One of the main instigations of the coup was the fact that the
  government there wanted to use some of the unused land of the fruit company for
  more social purposes. The United Fruit Company happened to
kyle_broflovski Re: Cele i dyrektywy diabla 03.10.02, 03:36

www.fff.org/comment/com0210b.asp
ale-x Re: Cele i dyrektywy diabla 09.10.02, 19:00

Gość portalu: John Wayne napisał(a):

> Ile jeszcze kilogramow tej komunistycznej makulatury masz
> do wydrukowania ?
>
> Teraz to dobry dowcip. Kiedys za robienie z tego dowcipu
> w Polsce byly powazne konsekwencje.
>

Dlaczego nazywasz to makulatura? Przeciez to sa fakty. Trudne do strawienia,
prawda? Zebrane tak do kupy sa nie do przelkniecia, szczegolnie dla slepych
poplecznikow amerykanskiej polityki.

Gość: diabeł Cele i dyrektywy polityki USA ...... IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 02.10.02, 23:12

According to the U.S. State Department Report
www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/rpt/fto/2001/5258.htm on Foreign Terrorist
Organizations from the Office of the Coordinator of Counter-
terrorism "terrorist activity" is defined as "any activity which threatens the
security of U.S. nationals or the national security defined as--national
defense, foreign relations or national security of the U.S. and where such
activity is unlawful under the laws of the place where it is committed (or
which, if committed in the U.S., would be unlawful under the laws of the U.S.
or any State) and which involves any of the following:

[snip]
(III) A violent attack on an internationally protected person or upon the
liberty of such a person, where ''internationally protected person'' means -

(A) a Chief of State or the political equivalent, head of government, or
Foreign Minister whenever such person is in a country other than his own and
any member of his family accompanying him; or

(B) any other representative, officer, employee, or agent of the United States
Government, a foreign government, or international organization who at the time
and place concerned is entitled pursuant to international law to special
protection against attack upon his person, freedom, or dignity, and any member
of his family then forming part of his household.

(IV) Assassination

[snip]
To illustrate the magnitude of U.S. state sponsored terrorism, consider the
following chronology by William Blum:

HIT LIST
by William Blum
The U.S. bombing of Iraq['s Intelligence Center] on June 26, [1993] in
retaliation for an alleged Iraqi plot to assassinate former President George
Bush, "was essential," said President Clinton, "to send a message to those who
engage in state-sponsored terrorism ... and to affirm the expectation of
civilized behavior among nations." 1

Following is a list of prominent foreign individuals whose assassination (or
planning for same) the U.S. has been involved in since the end of the Second
World War. The list does not include several assassinations in various parts of
the world carried out by anti-Castro Cubans employed by the CIA and
headquartered in the U.S. Do all these countries now have the right to bomb
Langley?

1949 Kim Koo, Korean opposition leader

1950s CIA/Neo-Nazi hit list of numerous political figures in West Germany

1955 Jose Antonio Remon, President of Panama

1950s Chou En-lai, Prime Minister of China, several attempts on his life

1950s Sukarno, President of Indonesia

1951 Kim 11 Sung, Premier of North Korea

1957 Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt

1955 Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India

1958 Brig. Gen. Abdul Karim Kassem, leader of Iraq

1959,1969-72 Norodom Sihanouk, leader of Cambodia

1950s-70s Jose Figueres, President of Costa Rica, two attempts on his life

1961 Patrice Lumumba, Prime Minister of the Congo (Zaire)

1961 Gen. Rafael Trujillo, leader of Dominican Republic

1963 Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam

1960s, late 1980s Fidel Castro, President of Cuba, many attempts on his life

1960s Raul Castro, high official in government of Cuba

1965-66 Charles de Gaulle, President of France'

1965 Pierre Ngendandumwe, Prime Minister of Burundi

1965 Francisco Caamano, Dominican Republic opposition leader

1967 Che Guevara, Cuban leader

1970-73 Salvador Allende, President of Chile

1970 Gen. Rene Schneider, Commander-in-Chief of Army, Chile

1970s General Omar Torrijos, leader of Panama

1972,1988-89 General Manuel Noriega, Chief of Panama Intelligence

1975 Mobutu Sese Seko, President of Zaire

1976-79 Michael Manley, Prime Minister of Jamaica

1982 Ayatollah Khomeini, leader of Iran

1983 Miguel d'Escoto, Foreign Minister of Nicaragua

1984 The nine comandantes of the Sandinista National Directorate

1985 Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, Lebanese Shiite leader (80 people
killed in the

attempt)

1981-87 Muammar Qaddafi, leader of Libya

1990-91 Saddam Hussein, leader of Iraq

_helga Spisek a pomylka froydowska 03.10.02, 07:21

Najlepszy kawalek to chyba tekst wlasny diabla. Jesli nie, to przepraszam.

'Tak się wyraża postulowana krucjata moralna przeciwko temu, co sami oziębli
wojownicy oraz cały naród amerykański nazwali diabelskim Międzynarodowym
Komunistycznym Spiskiem, który w rzeczywistości nigdy nie istniał,
niezależnie od swoich ewentualnych kontaktów z diabłem.'

W zbiorze jednostek ludzkich nieistniejace nie wykonuje niczego. Czyli
nieistniejacy spiskowcy nawet ewentualnie sie z diablem kontaktowac nie moga,
chyba ze nieistniejacy spiskowcy zaliczaja sie nie do zbioru jednostek
ludzkich, a na przyklad do zbioru jednostek nadprzyrodzonych.

Miedzynarodowy Komunistyczny Spisek istnial naprawde, nazywal sie Uklad
Warszawski. Bynajmniej do spraw nadprzyrodzonych sie nie ograniczal, niestety:(

Pomylka Froydowska to uzyty przez diabla termin 'oziebli wojownicy'. Wg Froyda
wskazuje on na problemy, ktore samego diabla gnebia, w tym przypadku - problem
ozieblosci seksualnej. Chyba ze diabel wyznaje wlasnie, jakie koszmary gnebia
mieszkancow otchlani piekielnych: wyziebienie. Bez Froyda to napisalby na
przyklad 'zimni'.

Gość: diabeł Re: Spisek a pomylka froydowska IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 03.10.02, 09:27

_helga napisała:

> Najlepszy kawalek to chyba tekst wlasny diabla. Jesli nie, to przepraszam.

D: nie mój, autor jest podany kilka linijek wyżej

www.uni.wroc.pl/~turowski/interwencje.htm

>
> 'Tak się wyraża postulowana krucjata moralna przeciwko temu, co sami oziębli
> wojownicy oraz cały naród amerykański nazwali diabelskim Międzynarodowym
> Komunistycznym Spiskiem, który w rzeczywistości nigdy nie istniał,
> niezależnie od swoich ewentualnych kontaktów z diabłem.'
>
D : a o Maccarthyzmie słyszałas?
>
> W zbiorze jednostek ludzkich nieistniejace nie wykonuje niczego. Czyli
> nieistniejacy spiskowcy nawet ewentualnie sie z diablem kontaktowac nie moga,
> chyba ze nieistniejacy spiskowcy zaliczaja sie nie do zbioru jednostek
> ludzkich, a na przyklad do zbioru jednostek nadprzyrodzonych.
>
> Miedzynarodowy Komunistyczny Spisek istnial naprawde, nazywal sie Uklad
> Warszawski. Bynajmniej do spraw nadprzyrodzonych sie nie ograniczal, niestety:

D : Międzynarodówka Komunistyczna to może i spisek, ale UW to odpowiednik NATO
po drugiej stronie i nie przypominam sobie by komuniśći nazywali NATO -
Międzynarodowym Imperialistycznym Spiskiem. Spisek to z reguły cos niejawnego.

PS. Rozumiem, że komunizM usprawiedliwia dowolne interesy własne realizowane w
dowolny sposób na całym świecie dowolnymi środkami przez USA ?

> Pomylka Froydowska to uzyty przez diabla termin 'oziebli wojownicy'. Wg
Froyda
> wskazuje on na problemy, ktore samego diabla gnebia, w tym przypadku -
problem
> ozieblosci seksualnej. Chyba ze diabel wyznaje wlasnie, jakie koszmary gnebia
> mieszkancow otchlani piekielnych: wyziebienie. Bez Froyda to napisalby na
> przyklad 'zimni'.

D : Mam wrażenie, że Autora tego tekstu mimo wszystko gnębia inne problemy.
- _helga Re: Spiskowa teoria tlumaczen 04.10.02, 00:14
  
  Diable szanowny. Skoro sie nie zorientowales, to pisze wprost. Czesc twoich
  dywagacji ma zrodlo w niezbyt dobrej znajomosci roznic kontekstualnych miedzy
  jezykiem polskim a angielskim. Nie pisze sie w jezyku polskim 'silnik polityki
  amerykanskiej', czy 'oziebli wojownicy'. Takze 'sila diabelska' w jezyku
  polskim inaczej sie uzywa niz w angielskim.
  - Gość: diabeł Re: Spiskowa teoria tlumaczen IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 04.10.02, 07:55
    
    _helga napisała:
    
    > Diable szanowny. Skoro sie nie zorientowales, to pisze wprost. Czesc twoich
    > dywagacji ma zrodlo w niezbyt dobrej znajomosci roznic kontekstualnych miedzy
    > jezykiem polskim a angielskim. Nie pisze sie w jezyku polskim 'silnik
    polityki
    > amerykanskiej', czy 'oziebli wojownicy'. Takze 'sila diabelska' w jezyku
    > polskim inaczej sie uzywa niz w angielskim.
    >
    
    Szanowna Helgo! To nie moje dywagacje tylko ex pracownika Departamentu Stanu
    USA Williama Bluma.... ( na samym poczatku jest to wyraznie zaznaczone)
    Po drugie tekst ten znajduje sie na jednej ze stron Uniwersytetu Wrocławskiego
    (adres podałem na samym poczatku!) i bardzo prawdopodobne, że masz racje i jest
    przetłumaczony amatorsko! Wszystko miało być raczej punktem wyjścia do
    jakiejkolwiek wymiany zdań co do treści tych wypowiedzi a nie jakości
    tłumaczenia oryginału... Diabeł
silesius Re: Spisek a pomylka froydowska 06.10.02, 21:21

_helga napisała:

> Najlepszy kawalek to chyba tekst wlasny diabla. Jesli nie, to przepraszam.
>
> 'Tak się wyraża postulowana krucjata moralna przeciwko temu, co sami oziębli
> wojownicy oraz cały naród amerykański nazwali diabelskim Międzynarodowym
> Komunistycznym Spiskiem, który w rzeczywistości nigdy nie istniał,
> niezależnie od swoich ewentualnych kontaktów z diabłem.'
>
> W zbiorze jednostek ludzkich nieistniejace nie wykonuje niczego. Czyli
> nieistniejacy spiskowcy nawet ewentualnie sie z diablem kontaktowac nie moga,
> chyba ze nieistniejacy spiskowcy zaliczaja sie nie do zbioru jednostek
> ludzkich, a na przyklad do zbioru jednostek nadprzyrodzonych.

Fajne ale pudlo.

".. oziebli wojownicy oraz caly narod amerykanski nazwali ... niezaleznie od
swoich ewentualnych kontaktow z diablem"

Kontakty z diablem wojownikow i amerykanow, a nie spiskowcow.

Gdyby dotyczylo to spiskowcow, musialoby byc: " i c h kontaktow"

Silesius

sewer_ W globalnej wojnie z komunizmem... 03.10.02, 12:20

USA ogolnie, a CIA konkretnie, mialy nie jeden raz rece upaprane
po lokcie w g... i we krwi...
Ale ten Swiat nie jest rajem.
W wyborze miedzy mniejszym, a wiekszym zlem, wybieram to mniejsze...
Dla przykladu: Grecja 1948.
Zwyciestwo komunistow oznaczaloby powazne wzmocnienie pozycji ZSRR
i Ukladu Warszawskiego na Morzu Srodziemnym, bezposredni kontakt ZSRR
(bazy, porty greckie) ze Swiatem Arabskim itd...
A dzisiaj, po wyjsciu z komuny Grecja bylaby na poziomie Bulgarii...
A jest chyba gdzie indziej...

W zblizajacej sie (wczesniej, czy pozniej) kolejnej wielkiej konfrontacji miedzy
WARTOSCIAMI ZACHODU (umowne okreslenie), a WARTOSCIAMI SWIATA ISLAMU
znowu wybieram zdecydowanie USA.
Wiedzac doskonale, ze beda mieli rece upaprane po lokcie w g... i we krwi...

Wybieram ponownie mniejsze zlo...
Tego wiekszego ZLA, przez delikatnosc nie bede opisywal,
gdyz wolalbym go Tobie i sobie oszczedzic...

Gość: diabeł zło kontra zło IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 03.10.02, 13:19

sewer_ napisał:

> USA ogolnie, a CIA konkretnie, mialy nie jeden raz rece upaprane
> po lokcie w g... i we krwi...
> Ale ten Swiat nie jest rajem.
> W wyborze miedzy mniejszym, a wiekszym zlem, wybieram to mniejsze...

D : Tak samo mówi generał JAruzelski....
Gorzej, że prawie nigdy nie wiadomo czy to co wybieramy to zło wieksze czy
mniejsze.....

> Dla przykladu: Grecja 1948.
> Zwyciestwo komunistow oznaczaloby powazne wzmocnienie pozycji ZSRR
> i Ukladu Warszawskiego na Morzu Srodziemnym, bezposredni kontakt ZSRR
> (bazy, porty greckie) ze Swiatem Arabskim itd...
> A dzisiaj, po wyjsciu z komuny Grecja bylaby na poziomie Bulgarii...
> A jest chyba gdzie indziej...

D : Kiedys tez tak czarno-biało widziałem świat. Pamietam jak zaraz po stanie
wojennym spotkałem sie z dwójka amerykanów , z którymi wczesniej utrzymywałem
kontakt listowny. NIE ISTNIAŁA MOŻLIWOŚĆ POROZUMIENIA SIĘ Z NIMI : Ja im cały
czas mówiłem, że komunizm jest najgrozniejszy i że za każdą cenę należy go
niszczyć... a oni mi na to że USA szkoli contras w Salvadorze,by mordować
jakichś chłopów.....

>
> W zblizajacej sie (wczesniej, czy pozniej) kolejnej wielkiej konfrontacji
miedz y
> WARTOSCIAMI ZACHODU (umowne okreslenie), a WARTOSCIAMI SWIATA ISLAMU
> znowu wybieram zdecydowanie USA.
> Wiedzac doskonale, ze beda mieli rece upaprane po lokcie w g... i we krwi...

D : to nie wybór ... tylko przymus.... (żeby wybierać musi być z czego,jeśli
chrześćijanie muszą walczyć z islamem, to widocznie nie ma wyboru...)

> Wybieram ponownie mniejsze zlo...

D : no dobrze, a dlaczego USA nie zlikwiduja zbrodniczego reżimu komunistycznego
w Korei Północnej ???!!! Widziałem co tam jest : jeden wielki obóz
koncentracyjny,głód i kannibalizm, miliony ludzi umierają z głodu......
na dodatek są też niezle uzbrojeni... a USA im wysyła pomoc humanitarną, która
w całości jest pochłaniana przez armie zbrodniczego reżimu........
czy to jest mniejsze zło ???????????????

> Tego wiekszego ZLA, przez delikatnosc nie bede opisywal,
> gdyz wolalbym go Tobie i sobie oszczedzic...

D : owszem moge sobie sam wyobrazic różne scenariusze, jeśli uważasz, że Saddam
Hussajn jest bliski władzy nad całym światem, ma najgrozniejszą broń itp itd
to trzeba go zniszczyć, ale jak narazie to ja w to nie wierzę....

To konflikt o amerykańskie wpływy, ropę i umocnienie Izraela. a dla Polski nie
widzę w tym żadnego interesu. USA są teraz krytykowane, wiec potrzebuja nawet
byle jakich sojuszników jak my, ale jak sytuacja się zmieni to nie zawachają
się nawet sekundy nad druga Jałtą......

sewer_ Polityka dwutorowa... Diabolo... 03.10.02, 13:54

1. Diabolo, ja tez jestem za UE i Zjednoczona Europa, takze militarnie,
"walcze" o to zaciekle z Eurosceptykami...
(poczytaj sobie moje wypowiedzi na forum UE)
Ale rysuje sie to na bliskim horyzoncie dosc niewyraznie...

2. Polityka dwutorowa polega na tym, ze gra sie jednoczesnie na dwoch
fortepianach (rajalach - jak mawiaja Rosjanie...).
Aktualne popieranie USA sluzy jak najbardziej polskim interesom...
Rozprawa na ten temat zajelaby ze 20 stron.
Przykro mi, nie mam na to czasu...
Czy USA moga nas zdradzic ?.
Naturalnie. Zadne sojusze nie sa wieczne.
Prawdopodobienstwo zaistnienia takiej mozliwosci w najblizszym czasie
jest jednak minimalne.

P.S. Jak tam w piekle ?
Nie ma problemow z drewnem i zwiazkami zawodowymi palaczy ? ?

Gość: diabeł gdzie drugi fortepian ? IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 03.10.02, 16:28

sewer_ napisał:

> 1. Diabolo, ja tez jestem za UE i Zjednoczona Europa, takze militarnie,
> "walcze" o to zaciekle z Eurosceptykami...
> (poczytaj sobie moje wypowiedzi na forum UE)
> Ale rysuje sie to na bliskim horyzoncie dosc niewyraznie...
>
> 2. Polityka dwutorowa polega na tym, ze gra sie jednoczesnie na dwoch
> fortepianach (rajalach - jak mawiaja Rosjanie...).
> Aktualne popieranie USA sluzy jak najbardziej polskim interesom...

D : zobaczymy jak na tym rozbiorze Iraku wyjdziemy.
benzyna będzie po tyle co w USA ?

> Rozprawa na ten temat zajelaby ze 20 stron.
> Przykro mi, nie mam na to czasu...
> Czy USA moga nas zdradzic ?.
> Naturalnie. Zadne sojusze nie sa wieczne.
> Prawdopodobienstwo zaistnienia takiej mozliwosci w najblizszym czasie
> jest jednak minimalne.
>
> P.S. Jak tam w piekle ?
> Nie ma problemow z drewnem i zwiazkami zawodowymi palaczy ? ?

D : W Piekle piękna polska jesień.
- Gość: rypski krupczak Re: gdzie drugi fortepian ? IP: *.nyc.rr.com 03.10.02, 22:39
  
  W tym miejscu pragne zrypac i zkrupczys diabeł a za pierdolenie przydlugawych,
  niedorzecznych wywodow. Wiekszy sukces osiagnolbym rozmawiajac z moim pieskiem.
  Rowniez sewer wywodzi w podobnym stylu piszac o wzmocnieniu Ukladu Warszawskiego
  w 1948 roku. Nie ma oczywiscie wiekszego znaczenia ze Uklad Warszawski zostal
  zawiazany petla wokol szyi w 1955.
  Obu panom goraco doradzam doczytanie o przyczynach upadku komunistow w Grecji
  i rozwiazaniu sprawy Iranu w tym samym okresie.
  - Gość: michal_pilot Re: Rypski.. wiecej taktu prosze IP: *.arc.nasa.gov 03.10.02, 23:02
    
    Rypski, ty widze zupelnie nie doceniasz wartosci
    rozrywkowo-charytatywnej wypocin diabelka. Kiedys taki
    facet mialby zapewniony wstep do PZPR, przywileje, dostep
    do sklepow "za firankami", samochod poza kolejnoscia,
    moze by jeszcze wydrukowali mu te jego wypociny, dla
    dzieci w szkolach bylaby to literatura obowiazkowa - a
    teraz, na smietniku historii, bez gruntu pod nogami, co
    mu pozostalo jak nie internet. Badzmy wiec taktowni i
    wyrozumiali i dajmy temu biedakowi nacieszyc sie ze ma
    chociaz kilku wiernych sluchaczy.
    - Gość: diabeł i mamy koleją odmiane debilizmu IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 03.10.02, 23:36
      
      Gość portalu: michal_pilot napisał(a):
      
      > Rypski, ty widze zupelnie nie doceniasz wartosci
      > rozrywkowo-charytatywnej wypocin diabelka. Kiedys taki
      > facet mialby zapewniony wstep do PZPR, przywileje, dostep
      > do sklepow "za firankami", samochod poza kolejnoscia,
      > moze by jeszcze wydrukowali mu te jego wypociny, dla
      > dzieci w szkolach bylaby to literatura obowiazkowa - a
      > teraz, na smietniku historii, bez gruntu pod nogami, co
      > mu pozostalo jak nie internet.
      
      cytuje debilu ludzi ze sfer władzy USA, a nie żadnych komunistów.
      
      masz tam w nasa jakąś lunetkę to sobie oglądaj gwiazdki.
      
      Badzmy wiec taktowni i
      > wyrozumiali i dajmy temu biedakowi nacieszyc sie ze ma
      > chociaz kilku wiernych sluchaczy.
      
      każdy kto krytykuje USA to komunista.
      
      każdy kto krytykuje IZrael to antysemita.
      
      i tak dalej i tak dalej.........
      - Gość: michal_pilot Re: i mamy koleją odmiane debilizmu IP: *.arc.nasa.gov 04.10.02, 02:18
        
        > cytuje debilu ludzi ze sfer władzy USA, a nie żadnych
        komunistów.
        
        Ja nie jestem az takim debilem zeby uwierzec ze William
        Blum jest ze sfer 'wladzy'. Takich jak on malkontentow,
        wyrzuconych z CIA czy State Dpt. urzedasow zawsze sie
        paru znajdzie. Moze to nie jawni komunisci ale to typ
        'sympatykow'. Obojetnie czy zrobili to z 'przekonania'
        czy zeby byc orginalnymi - zerowy to dla mnie autorytet.
        
        Gość: diabeł Re: i mamy koleją odmiane debilizmu IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 04.10.02, 07:46
        
        Gość portalu: michal_pilot napisał(a):
        
        >
        > > cytuje debilu ludzi ze sfer władzy USA, a nie żadnych
        > komunistów.
        >
        > Ja nie jestem az takim debilem zeby uwierzec ze William
        > Blum jest ze sfer 'wladzy'. Takich jak on malkontentow,
        > wyrzuconych z CIA czy State Dpt. urzedasow zawsze sie
        > paru znajdzie. Moze to nie jawni komunisci ale to typ
        > 'sympatykow'.
        
        Sympatyków "komunizmu" ? Czyli nadal twierdzisz, że każdy kto krytykuje
        USa to komunista albo sympatyk komunizmu???
        
        Obojetnie czy zrobili to z 'przekonania'
        > czy zeby byc orginalnymi - zerowy to dla mnie autorytet.
        
        Tu nie chodzi o autorytet tylko o wiedzę. Przecież w USA nie każdemu musi sie
        wszystko podobać, jest wolność słowa czy nie ? Podaj argumenty a nie szkaluj
        każdego, że jest komunistą. Jest faktem bezsprzecznym i oczywistym, że USA
        dla własnych interesów prowadzi szereg nielegalnych działań w krajach na całym
        świecie i w wielu przypadkach nie ma to zupełnie nic wspólnego z
        komunizmem......
    - silesius Re: Rypski.. wiecej taktu prosze 06.10.02, 21:26
      
      Gość portalu: michal_pilot napisał(a):
      
      > Rypski, ty widze zupelnie nie doceniasz wartosci
      > rozrywkowo-charytatywnej wypocin diabelka. Kiedys taki
      > facet mialby zapewniony wstep do PZPR,
      
      Kiedys to bylo kiedys.
      Dzis dupolizy wyplezily ozory za ocean w strone
      amerykanskich zadkow i chlapia, jak Bush pierdzi.
      
      Natomiast trudno zarzucic interesownosc krytykom USA
      gdyz - jak pan sam raczyl zauwazyc - oplacalnosc
      takiej postawy nalezy do minionej przeszlosci.
      
      Silesius
  - sewer_ Rypski, nie badz zarozumíaly... 03.10.02, 23:16
    
    Twoja zarozumialosc zaczyna byc przykra...
    
    Doskonale wiem, w ktorym roku powstal Uklad Warszawski (1955)...
    Z polskim MSZ mialem, co nie co, do czynienia.
    Jak nie rozumiesz skrotow myslowych, to Twoj problem.
    To, ze generalnie zgadzam sie z Twoimi politycznymi ocenami,
    nie znaczy, ze nie bede Cie krytykowal...
    
    Dla Ciebie od dzisiaj: Dr. ("zachodni") Sewer.,
    a w 1981 przewodniczacy "Solidarnosci" w jednym z warszawskich zakladow
    przemyslowych...
  - Gość: diabeł Re: gdzie drugi fortepian ? IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 03.10.02, 23:44
    
    Gość portalu: rypski krupczak napisał(a):
    
    > W tym miejscu pragne zrypac i zkrupczys diabeł a za pierdolenie
    przydlugawych,
    > niedorzecznych wywodow. Wiekszy sukces osiagnolbym rozmawiajac z moim
    pieskiem
    
    To rozmawiaj z psami.
    nawet nie jesteś zdolny do zauważenia, że cytuje Williama Bluma ex Departament
    Stanu USA.......
    
    William Blum left the U.S. State Department in 1967, abandoning his aspiration
    of becoming a Foreign Service Officer because of his opposition to what the
    United States was doing in Viet Nam. Two years later he published an exposé of
    the CIA which was followed by numerous writings which unmasked Washington's
    interventions around the world. Blum was in Chile writing about the government
    of Salvador Allende, who wasoverthrown by the CIA in 1973; he worked with
    former CIA agent Philip Agee to expose CIA personnel and their misdeeds in
    London; and he authored two book, Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA
    Interventions Since World War II and Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only
    Superpower. Blum was honored with a 1998 Project Censored award for
    his "exemplary journalism"
    
    > Rowniez sewer wywodzi w podobnym stylu piszac o wzmocnieniu Ukladu
    Warszawskieg
    > o
    > w 1948 roku. Nie ma oczywiscie wiekszego znaczenia ze Uklad Warszawski zostal
    > zawiazany petla wokol szyi w 1955.
    > Obu panom goraco doradzam doczytanie o przyczynach upadku komunistow w Grecji
    > i rozwiazaniu sprawy Iranu w tym samym okresie.
  - Gość: diabeł Re: gdzie drugi fortepian ? IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 04.10.02, 00:05
    
    Gość portalu: rypski krupczak napisał(a):
    
    > Obu panom goraco doradzam doczytanie o przyczynach upadku komunistow w Grecji
    > i rozwiazaniu sprawy Iranu w tym samym okresie.
    
    D : Staram sie "doczytać" ale znajduje tylko "komunistyczne" strony na ten
    temat. To cóż tak naprawde stało sie w tym Iranie? I kto tu jest zle
    poinformowany?????????? Pewnie Irańczycy?
    -------------------------------
    www.angelfire.com/home/iran/1953cp.html
    Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh and the Shah's
    coup d'état in 1953
    Anglo-American plan (AJAX) by CIA & British MI6 against Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh,
    Kermit Roosevelt and General Fazlollah Zahedi
    By the summer of 1953, the British and American governments initiated a joint
    Anglo-American plan for the covert overthrow of Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh, the
    Prime Minister of Iran. The plan called Operation AJAX with Kermit Roosevelt,
    the CIA Mideast Agent in charge (a grandson of Theodore Roosevelt and a distant
    cousin of Franklin Delano Roosevelt). "So this is how we will get rid of the
    madman Mossadeq in Iran" announced John Foster Dulles to a group of top
    Washington policy makers in June 1953. The U.S. Secretary of State held in his
    hand a plan of operation to overthrow the Prime Minister of Iran. There was
    scarcely any discussions amongst the high powered men in the room, no probing
    questions and no legal or ethical issues raised.
    - The New York Times, 05/29/1997, "The CIA destroyed files on 1953 Iran coup
    d'état"
    - The New York Times, 04/16/2000, "The CIA in Iran"
    - The New York Times (web-site), 06/18/2000, "Overthrow of premier Mossadeq of
    Iran"
    
    The decision was made in June 1953 to replace Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh with
    General Fazlollah Zahedi; one of those arrested in February 1953 on charges of
    plotting to overthrow the nationalist government. Kermit Roosevelt, the CIA
    Mideast Agent, traveled secretly to Iran to coordinate the Operation AJAX with
    the Shah and the Iranian military, which was led by General Fazlollah Zahedi.
    
    In accordance with the plan, on August 16, 1953, the Shah violated the Iran's
    Monarchy Constitution and dismissed Dr. Mossadegh and his nationalist cabinet
    without the parliament's approval and appointed General Fazlollah Zahedi as the
    new Prime Minister. The chief of the Royal Guards, Colonel Nematollah Nassiri,
    served Dr. Mossadegh with a formal dismissal notice. In addition, he was
    ordered to occupy Dr. Mossadegh's house by the Royal troops and hold him in his
    house until further instructions, but the Prime Minister's guards forced them
    to quit.
    
    The coup d'état was publicized and caused major disappointment and
    dissatisfaction amongst the people throughout the country. In a matter of
    hours, massive rioting erupted in Iran in wide support of Dr. Mossadegh; and
    the Shah fled to Italy. The people's protest and demonstration continued for
    two days and led to pull down the statues of the Shah and his father all over
    the country.
    
    On August 19th, 1953, the British Intelligence Service (MI6) and the United
    States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), engineered to perform the next phase
    of their plan against the Iranian national government of Dr. Mossadegh. On that
    tragic day, a group of tanks led by General Fazlollah Zahedi moved through
    Tehran and surrounded Dr. Mossadegh's residence. The forces behind the coup
    d'état also managed to pull a large number of bribed hooligans into the streets
    to rally against Dr. Mossadegh. Finally the army and police forces let the mob
    reach the Prime Minister's residence and after hours of bombarding and fighting
    a bloody battle with the small group of Dr. Mossadegh's loyal guards, they
    entered the house and after plundering it, they burned it down. In a matter of
    hours Dr. Mossadegh and his top cabinet leaders surrendered themselves to the
    coup d'état Prime Minister, General Fazlollah Zahedi, and the Shah flew back to
    Iran, as a U.S. puppet.
    
    On August 19th, 1953 (28th day of Mordad 1332, Persian calendar); the Shah's
    dictatorship restored. "I owe my throne to the God, my people, my army and to
    you", the Shah reportedly told the CIA Mideast Agent, Kermit Roosevelt.
    
    Dr. Mossadegh remains a figure of tremendous stature in the history of modern
    Iran. As an individual he had a reputation for honesty, integrity, and
    sincerity. He strongly opposed British and, later, American influence in Iran.
    He was an eloquent, impassioned orator, and his speeches are still widely read
    in Iran.
    
    Dr. Mossadegh under house arrest, 1963 Dr. Mossadegh's tomb in one of the
    rooms of his residence in Ahmad-Abad
    
    During Dr. Mossadegh's trial in the Shah's military court, he publicized the
    secrets of two military coup d'état attempts against his government. He was
    sentenced to three years imprisonment; thereafter he was transferred to his
    country house in Ahmad-Abad at the age of 74 and lived there under house arrest
    until his death. On March 4, 1967, Dr. Mossadegh died of cancer at the age of
    84. His body was buried in one of the rooms of his residence. He was survived
    by 2 sons and 3 daughters.
    
    The Iranian people never forgave the Shah for the 1953 illegitimate and bloody
    coup d'état against the Iranian national hero, Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh and his
    nationalist cabinet. The Iranian people deeply suffered under the Shah's
    dictatorship, corruption, phony elections, heavy censorship on the public
    media, torture and execution of thousands of dissenters until the 1979
    Revolution
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    iranianmovies.com/reviews/ciacoup.html
    Mossadegh
    & C.I.A Coup of 1953 in Iran
    50 min/documentary/in English
    SYNOPSIS For the 1st time after nearly 50 years, the facts about the CIA led
    coup against Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh is told by ex-CIA officers and
    western politicians. A rare look at the history and CIA's involvement in
    toppling foreign governments. in English language only.
    Regular price: $29.95 ; Your cost: $14.95
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      Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
      
      > Gość portalu: rypski krupczak napisał(a):
      >
      > > Obu panom goraco doradzam doczytanie o przyczynach upadku komunistow w Gre
      > cji
      > > i rozwiazaniu sprawy Iranu w tym samym okresie.
      >
      > D : Staram sie "doczytać" ale znajduje tylko "komunistyczne" strony na ten
      > temat. To cóż tak naprawde stało sie w tym Iranie? I kto tu jest zle
      > poinformowany?????????? Pewnie Irańczycy?
      > -------------------------------
      > <a
      href="http://www.angelfire.com/home/iran/1953cp.html"target="_blank">www.ang
      > elfire.com/home/iran/1953cp.html</a>
      > Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh and the Shah's
      > coup d'état in 1953
      > Anglo-American plan (AJAX) by CIA & British MI6 against Dr. Mohammad
      Mossadegh,
      >
      > Kermit Roosevelt and General Fazlollah Zahedi
      > By the summer of 1953, the British and American governments initiated a joint
      > Anglo-American plan for the covert overthrow of Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh, the
      > Prime Minister of Iran. The plan called Operation AJAX with Kermit Roosevelt,
      > the CIA Mideast Agent in charge (a grandson of Theodore Roosevelt and a
      distant
      >
      > cousin of Franklin Delano Roosevelt). "So this is how we will get rid of the
      > madman Mossadeq in Iran" announced John Foster Dulles to a group of top
      > Washington policy makers in June 1953. The U.S. Secretary of State held in
      his
      > hand a plan of operation to overthrow the Prime Minister of Iran. There was
      > scarcely any discussions amongst the high powered men in the room, no probing
      > questions and no legal or ethical issues raised.
      > - The New York Times, 05/29/1997, "The CIA destroyed files on 1953 Iran coup
      > d'état"
      > - The New York Times, 04/16/2000, "The CIA in Iran"
      > - The New York Times (web-site), 06/18/2000, "Overthrow of premier Mossadeq
      of
      > Iran"
      >
      > The decision was made in June 1953 to replace Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh with
      > General Fazlollah Zahedi; one of those arrested in February 1953 on charges
      of
      > plotting to overthrow the nationalist government. Kermit Roosevelt, the CIA
      > Mideast Agent, traveled secretly to Iran to coordinate the Operation AJAX
      with
      > the Shah and the Iranian military, which was led by General Fazlollah Zahedi.
      >
      > In accordance with the plan, on August 16, 1953, the Shah violated the Iran's
      > Monarchy Constitution and dismissed Dr. Mossadegh and his nationalist cabinet
      > without the parliament's approval and appointed General Fazlollah Zahedi as
      the
      >
      > new Prime Minister. The chief of the Royal Guards, Colonel Nematollah
      Nassiri,
      > served Dr. Mossadegh with a formal dismissal notice. In addition, he was
      > ordered to occupy Dr. Mossadegh's house by the Royal troops and hold him in
      his
      >
      > house until further instructions, but the Prime Minister's guards forced them
      > to quit.
      >
      > The coup d'état was publicized and caused major disappointment and
      > dissatisfaction amongst the people throughout the country. In a matter of
      > hours, massive rioting erupted in Iran in wide support of Dr. Mossadegh; and
      > the Shah fled to Italy. The people's protest and demonstration continued for
      > two days and led to pull down the statues of the Shah and his father all over
      > the country.
      >
      > On August 19th, 1953, the British Intelligence Service (MI6) and the United
      > States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), engineered to perform the next
      phase
      > of their plan against the Iranian national government of Dr. Mossadegh. On
      that
      >
      > tragic day, a group of tanks led by General Fazlollah Zahedi moved through
      > Tehran and surrounded Dr. Mossadegh's residence. The forces behind the coup
      > d'état also managed to pull a large number of bribed hooligans into the
      streets
      >
      > to rally against Dr. Mossadegh. Finally the army and police forces let the
      mob
      > reach the Prime Minister's residence and after hours of bombarding and
      fighting
      >
      > a bloody battle with the small group of Dr. Mossadegh's loyal guards, they
      > entered the house and after plundering it, they burned it down. In a matter
      of
      > hours Dr. Mossadegh and his top cabinet leaders surrendered themselves to the
      > coup d'état Prime Minister, General Fazlollah Zahedi, and the Shah flew back
      to
      >
      > Iran, as a U.S. puppet.
      >
      > On August 19th, 1953 (28th day of Mordad 1332, Persian calendar); the Shah's
      > dictatorship restored. "I owe my throne to the God, my people, my army and to
      > you", the Shah reportedly told the CIA Mideast Agent, Kermit Roosevelt.
      >
      > Dr. Mossadegh remains a figure of tremendous stature in the history of modern
      > Iran. As an individual he had a reputation for honesty, integrity, and
      > sincerity. He strongly opposed British and, later, American influence in
      Iran.
      > He was an eloquent, impassioned orator, and his speeches are still widely
      read
      > in Iran.
      >
      > Dr. Mossadegh under house arrest, 1963 Dr. Mossadegh's tomb in one of the
      > rooms of his residence in Ahmad-Abad
      >
      > During Dr. Mossadegh's trial in the Shah's military court, he publicized the
      > secrets of two military coup d'état attempts against his government. He was
      > sentenced to three years imprisonment; thereafter he was transferred to his
      > country house in Ahmad-Abad at the age of 74 and lived there under house
      arrest
      >
      > until his death. On March 4, 1967, Dr. Mossadegh died of cancer at the age of
      > 84. His body was buried in one of the rooms of his residence. He was survived
      > by 2 sons and 3 daughters.
      >
      > The Iranian people never forgave the Shah for the 1953 illegitimate and
      bloody
      > coup d'état against the Iranian national hero, Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh and his
      > nationalist cabinet. The Iranian people deeply suffered under the Shah's
      > dictatorship, corruption, phony elections, heavy censorship on the public
      > media, torture and execution of thousands of dissenters until the 1979
      > Revolution
      > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      > <a
      href="http://iranianmovies.com/reviews/ciacoup.html"target="_blank">iranianm
      > ovies.com/reviews/ciacoup.html</a>
      > Mossadegh
      > & C.I.A Coup of 1953 in Iran
      > 50 min/documentary/in English
      > SYNOPSIS For the 1st time after nearly 50 years, the facts about the CIA led
      > coup against Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh is told by ex-CIA officers and
      > western politicians. A rare look at the history and CIA's involvement in
      > toppling foreign governments. in English language only.
      > Regular price: $29.95 ; Your cost: $14.95
      > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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        ) Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
        )
        ) ) Gość portalu: rypski krupczak napisał(a):
        ) )
        ) ) ) Obu panom goraco doradzam doczytanie o przyczynach upadku komunistow
        ) w Gre
        ) ) cji
        ) ) ) i rozwiazaniu sprawy Iranu w tym samym okresie.
        ) )
        ) ) D : Staram sie "doczytać" ale znajduje tylko "komunistyczne" strony na ten
        )
        ) ) temat. To cóż tak naprawde stało sie w tym Iranie? I kto tu jest zle
        ) ) poinformowany?????????? Pewnie Irańczycy?
        ) ) -------------------------------
        ) ) (a
        ) href="http://www.angelfire.com/home/iran/1953cp.html"target="_blank")www.ang
        ) ) elfire.com/home/iran/1953cp.html(/a)
        ) ) Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh and the Shah's
        ) ) coup d'état in 1953
        ) ) Anglo-American plan (AJAX) by CIA & British MI6 against Dr. Mohammad
        ) Mossadegh,
        ) )
        ) ) Kermit Roosevelt and General Fazlollah Zahedi
        ) ) By the summer of 1953, the British and American governments initiated a jo
        ) int
        ) ) Anglo-American plan for the covert overthrow of Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh, th
        ) e
        ) ) Prime Minister of Iran. The plan called Operation AJAX with Kermit Rooseve
        ) lt,
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        ) distant
        ) )
        ) ) cousin of Franklin Delano Roosevelt). "So this is how we will get rid of t
        ) he
        ) ) madman Mossadeq in Iran" announced John Foster Dulles to a group of top
        ) ) Washington policy makers in June 1953. The U.S. Secretary of State held in
        )
        ) his
        ) ) hand a plan of operation to overthrow the Prime Minister of Iran. There wa
        ) s
        ) ) scarcely any discussions amongst the high powered men in the room, no prob
        ) ing
        ) ) questions and no legal or ethical issues raised.
        ) ) - The New York Times, 05/29/1997, "The CIA destroyed files on 1953 Iran co
        ) up
        ) ) d'état"
        ) ) - The New York Times, 04/16/2000, "The CIA in Iran"
        ) ) - The New York Times (web-site), 06/18/2000, "Overthrow of premier Mossade
        ) q
        ) of
        ) ) Iran"
        ) )
        ) ) The decision was made in June 1953 to replace Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh with
        ) ) General Fazlollah Zahedi; one of those arrested in February 1953 on charge
        ) s
        ) of
        ) ) plotting to overthrow the nationalist government. Kermit Roosevelt, the CI
        ) A
        ) ) Mideast Agent, traveled secretly to Iran to coordinate the Operation AJAX
        ) with
        ) ) the Shah and the Iranian military, which was led by General Fazlollah Zahe
        ) di.
        ) )
        ) ) In accordance with the plan, on August 16, 1953, the Shah violated the Ira
        ) n's
        ) ) Monarchy Constitution and dismissed Dr. Mossadegh and his nationalist cabi
        ) net
        ) ) without the parliament's approval and appointed General Fazlollah Zahedi a
        ) s
        ) the
        ) )
        ) ) new Prime Minister. The chief of the Royal Guards, Colonel Nematollah
        ) Nassiri,
        ) ) served Dr. Mossadegh with a formal dismissal notice. In addition, he was
        ) ) ordered to occupy Dr. Mossadegh's house by the Royal troops and hold him i
        ) n
        ) his
        ) )
        ) ) house until further instructions, but the Prime Minister's guards forced t
        ) hem
        ) ) to quit.
        ) )
        ) ) The coup d'état was publicized and caused major disappointment and
        ) ) dissatisfaction amongst the people throughout the country. In a matter of
        ) ) hours, massive rioting erupted in Iran in wide support of Dr. Mossadegh; a
        ) nd
        ) ) the Shah fled to Italy. The people's protest and demonstration continued f
        ) or
        ) ) two days and led to pull down the statues of the Shah and his father all o
        ) ver
        ) ) the country.
        ) )
        ) ) On August 19th, 1953, the British Intelligence Service (MI6) and the Unite
        ) d
        ) ) States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), engineered to perform the next
        ) phase
        ) ) of their plan against the Iranian national government of Dr. Mossadegh. On
        )
        ) that
        ) )
        ) ) tragic day, a group of tanks led by General Fazlollah Zahedi moved through
        )
        ) ) Tehran and surrounded Dr. Mossadegh's residence. The forces behind the cou
        ) p
        ) ) d'état also managed to pull a large number of bribed hooligans into the
        ) streets
        ) )
        ) ) to rally against Dr. Mossadegh. Finally the army and police forces let the
        )
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        ) ) reach the Prime Minister's residence and after hours of bombarding and
        ) fighting
        ) )
        ) ) a bloody battle with the small group of Dr. Mossadegh's loyal guards, they
        )
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        ) r
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        ) ) hours Dr. Mossadegh and his top cabinet leaders surrendered themselves to
        ) the
        ) ) coup d'état Prime Minister, General Fazlollah Zahedi, and the Shah flew ba
        ) ck
        ) to
        ) )
        ) ) Iran, as a U.S. puppet.
        ) )
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        ) to
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        ) )
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        ) of
        ) ) 84. His body was buried in one of the rooms of his residence. He was survi
        ) ved
        ) ) by 2 sons and 3 daughters.
        ) )
        ) ) The Iranian people never forgave the Shah for the 1953 illegitimate and
        ) bloody
        ) ) coup d'état against the Iranian national hero, Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh and
        ) his
        ) ) nationalist cabinet. The Iranian people deeply suffered under the Shah's
        ) ) dictatorship, corruption, phony elections, heavy censorship on the public
        ) ) media, torture and execution of thousands of dissenters until the 1979
        ) ) Revolution
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Gość: zbyszek Re: Cele i dyrektywy polityki USA ...... IP: *.dpg.devry.edu 03.10.02, 23:49

www.rense.com/general29/wordsofwar.htm
When George Bush says, for instance, "I'm a patient man", he means, or it seems
this week he means, "I'm an impatient man". When he says, "We must be strong,
and secure the peace", he means - or I think he means - we must, whatever
others tell us, now go to war. When he says, "What they hate us for is our
freedom", he means they hate our Hollywood-hamburger-Playboy Bunny culture and
we think they should be free to adopt it, if need be by force. When he
says, "Our quarrel is not with the Iraqi people", he means - or I think he
means - we're going to bomb them to hell, real soon.

Gość: diabeł Cele i dyrektywy polityki USA ...... IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 04.10.02, 08:29

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm
Ten US Interventions in the Muslim Mid-east
by Bob Stone
Summaries from Killing Hope by William Blum
9/24/01
Nothing can excuse the use of unwilling human missiles to kill thousands of
innocent civilians in the World Trade Center. However, largely unbeknownst to
the US public, there have been 10 US interventions in mostly Muslim nations of
the mid-east since 1948, and these no doubt partly provoked the recent attacks.

Prior to 1953 there were two major postwar interventions. In 1948 the US (with
the USSR's blessing) joined in naively imposing Israel on the Palestinians

Gość: diabeł Cele i dyrektywy polityki USA ...... IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 04.10.02, 08:33

Kissinger: "Your Excellency, having always believed in the peaceful solution of
disputes including those between Iran and Iraq, we are please to see that their
two countries have come to some agreement...However, our hearts bleed to see
that an immediate byproduct of their agreement is the destruction of our
defenseless people.." Of course the suppression of the Kurds was Henry K's
point. Over 200,000 refuges reached Iran but it and the US gave inadequate aid,
the US refused admittance to all refugees, and Iran even sent 40,000 back into
Iraq. Interviewed later on the betrayal, Kissinger said famously: "Covert
action should not be confused with missionary work." (pp. 242-244)

"Morocco 1983: A video nasty."

King Hassan sent Moroccan troops to Zaire in 1977 and 1978 to aid US actions,
helped UNITA in Angola since the mid-1970s, and allowed building of a key CIA
African post in Morocco. He was, in short, on our side. Ahmed Rami, living in
Sweden, had led the clandestine" Mouvement des officiers libres"
kapitalizm Re: Cele i dyrektywy polityki USA ...... 09.10.02, 18:29

Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):

www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm...............

Czlowieku co Ty cytujesz? Berkeley? To Ty nie wiesz, ze cala Ameryka sie
smieje z Tych 'useful idiots'.
Nie na darmo ma przydomek 'Bizzerkley'
- Gość: diabeł głupota kapitalizmu IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 11.10.02, 12:54
  
  kapitalizm napisał:
  
  > Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
  >
  >
  >
  > <a
  href="www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm..............
  > ."target="_blank">www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm...............</a>
  >
  >
  > Czlowieku co Ty cytujesz? Berkeley? To Ty nie wiesz, ze cala Ameryka sie
  > smieje z Tych 'useful idiots'.
  > Nie na darmo ma przydomek 'Bizzerkley'
  
  Diabeł : No tak, sami idioci, 17 nagród Nobla w tym Czesław Miłosz. Pewnie
  najwiekszy z nich ?
  -----------------------------------
  sunsite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html
  Cal Nobel Prize Winners
  The University of California, Berkeley, can boast of having 17 Nobel Laureates
  in its distinguished history of research and discovery. Beginning with Ernest
  O. Lawrence in 1939, these professors represent a wide range of scholarly
  pursuits: from physics to economics, from molecular and cell biology to slavic
  languages and literature. Cal has had more Nobel Laureates than any other
  American university except Harvard and the University of Chicago.
  
  Award Year Recipients
  1939 Ernest O. Lawrence (Physics) (d. 1958)
  1946 Wendell M. Stanley (Chemistry) (d. 1971)
  1945 John H. Northrop (Chemistry) (d. 1987)
  1949 William F. Giauque (Chemistry) (d. 1982)
  1951 Edwin M. McMillan, Chemistry (Chemistry)
  Professor of Physics, Emeritus
  Director Emeritus, Lawrence Berkeley
  Laboratory (d. 1991)
  1951 Glenn T. Seaborg (Chemistry)
  University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
  Associate Director, Lawrence Berkeley
  Laboratory (d. 1999)
  1959 Owen Chamberlain (Physics)
  Professor of Physics
  1959 Emilio G. Segre (Physics)
  Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1989)
  1960 Donald A. Glaser (Physics)
  Professor of Molecular Biology and of Physics
  1961 Melvin Calvin (Chemistry)
  University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
  Director Emeritus, Laboratory of Chemical Biodynamics
  1964 Charles H. Townes (Physics)
  University Professor of Physics, Emeritus
  1968 Luis Alvarez (Physics)
  Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1988)
  1980 Czeslaw Milosz (Literature)
  Professor of Slavic Languages and Literature, Emeritus
  1983 Gerard Debreu (Economics)
  Professor of Economics and of Mathematics
  1986 Yuan T. Lee (Chemistry)
  Professor of Chemistry
  Principal Investigator, Materials and Molecular Research
  Division, Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
  1994 John C. Harsanyi (Economics)
  Professor of Economics (d. 2000)
  2000 Daniel L. McFadden (Economics)
  Professor of Economics
  - kapitalizm Re: głupota kapitalizmu 11.10.02, 16:00
    
    Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
    
    > kapitalizm napisał:
    >
    > > Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > <a
    > href="<a
    href="www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm.............."ta
    > rget="_blank">www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm..............</a>
    > > ."target="_blank">www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm.............
    > ..</a>
    > >
    > >
    > > Czlowieku co Ty cytujesz? Berkeley? To Ty nie wiesz, ze cala Ameryka sie
    >
    > > smieje z Tych 'useful idiots'.
    > > Nie na darmo ma przydomek 'Bizzerkley'
    >
    > Diabeł : No tak, sami idioci, 17 nagród Nobla w tym Czesław Miłosz. Pewnie
    > najwiekszy z nich ?
    > -----------------------------------
    > <a
    href="http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html"target="_blank">suns
    > ite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html</a>
    > Cal Nobel Prize Winners
    > The University of California, Berkeley, can boast of having 17 Nobel
    Laureates
    >
    > in its distinguished history of research and discovery. Beginning with Ernest
    > O. Lawrence in 1939, these professors represent a wide range of scholarly
    > pursuits: from physics to economics, from molecular and cell biology to
    slavic
    > languages and literature. Cal has had more Nobel Laureates than any other
    > American university except Harvard and the University of Chicago.
    >
    > Award Year Recipients
    > 1939 Ernest O. Lawrence (Physics) (d. 1958)
    > 1946 Wendell M. Stanley (Chemistry) (d. 1971)
    > 1945 John H. Northrop (Chemistry) (d. 1987)
    > 1949 William F. Giauque (Chemistry) (d. 1982)
    > 1951 Edwin M. McMillan, Chemistry (Chemistry)
    > Professor of Physics, Emeritus
    > Director Emeritus, Lawrence Berkeley
    > Laboratory (d. 1991)
    > 1951 Glenn T. Seaborg (Chemistry)
    > University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
    > Associate Director, Lawrence Berkeley
    > Laboratory (d. 1999)
    > 1959 Owen Chamberlain (Physics)
    > Professor of Physics
    > 1959 Emilio G. Segre (Physics)
    > Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1989)
    > 1960 Donald A. Glaser (Physics)
    > Professor of Molecular Biology and of Physics
    > 1961 Melvin Calvin (Chemistry)
    > University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
    > Director Emeritus, Laboratory of Chemical Biodynamics
    > 1964 Charles H. Townes (Physics)
    > University Professor of Physics, Emeritus
    > 1968 Luis Alvarez (Physics)
    > Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1988)
    > 1980 Czeslaw Milosz (Literature)
    > Professor of Slavic Languages and Literature, Emeritus
    > 1983 Gerard Debreu (Economics)
    > Professor of Economics and of Mathematics
    > 1986 Yuan T. Lee (Chemistry)
    > Professor of Chemistry
    > Principal Investigator, Materials and Molecular Research
    > Division, Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
    > 1994 John C. Harsanyi (Economics)
    > Professor of Economics (d. 2000)
    > 2000 Daniel L. McFadden (Economics)
    > Professor of Economics
    
    Termin 'useful idiots' powinines wiedziec, ze odnosi sie do ludzi z
    wyksztalceniem ale calkowicie zagubionych w swoich ocenach moralnych swiata.
    Moralnie mowiac na uniwersytetach ameryk. jest najwiecej confused people. To
    tam w koncu siedzi cala lewica USA, to tam popierano komunizm,Stalina i
    wszystkie rezimy Trzeciego Swiata. Nie zapominaj,ze kadra obecnych profesorow
    to byli hippisi lat 60-tych
    Ja nie twierdze, ze to sa zli albo nie wyksztalceni ludzie.
    Poprostu b. confused.
    Pol Pot skonczyl zaszczytna francuska Sorbone!
    - Gość: diabeł Re: głupota kapitalizmu IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 11.10.02, 16:18
      
      kapitalizm napisał:
      
      > Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
      >
      > > kapitalizm napisał:
      > >
      > > > Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > <a
      > > href="<a
      > href="<a
      href="www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm.............."ta
      > "target="_blank">www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm.............."ta</a>
      > > rget="_blank">www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm..............
      > 0/a>
      > > > ."target="_blank">www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm........
      > .....
      > > ..</a>
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Czlowieku co Ty cytujesz? Berkeley? To Ty nie wiesz, ze cala Ameryk
      > a sie
      > >
      > > > smieje z Tych 'useful idiots'.
      > > > Nie na darmo ma przydomek 'Bizzerkley'
      > >
      > > Diabeł : No tak, sami idioci, 17 nagród Nobla w tym Czesław Miłosz. Pewnie
      >
      > > najwiekszy z nich ?
      > > -----------------------------------
      > > <a
      > href="http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html"target="_blank">suns
      > > ite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html</a>
      > > Cal Nobel Prize Winners
      > > The University of California, Berkeley, can boast of having 17 Nobel
      > Laureates
      > >
      > > in its distinguished history of research and discovery. Beginning with Ern
      > est
      > > O. Lawrence in 1939, these professors represent a wide range of scholarly
      > > pursuits: from physics to economics, from molecular and cell biology to
      > slavic
      > > languages and literature. Cal has had more Nobel Laureates than any other
      > > American university except Harvard and the University of Chicago.
      > >
      > > Award Year Recipients
      > > 1939 Ernest O. Lawrence (Physics) (d. 1958)
      > > 1946 Wendell M. Stanley (Chemistry) (d. 1971)
      > > 1945 John H. Northrop (Chemistry) (d. 1987)
      > > 1949 William F. Giauque (Chemistry) (d. 1982)
      > > 1951 Edwin M. McMillan, Chemistry (Chemistry)
      > > Professor of Physics, Emeritus
      > > Director Emeritus, Lawrence Berkeley
      > > Laboratory (d. 1991)
      > > 1951 Glenn T. Seaborg (Chemistry)
      > > University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
      > > Associate Director, Lawrence Berkeley
      > > Laboratory (d. 1999)
      > > 1959 Owen Chamberlain (Physics)
      > > Professor of Physics
      > > 1959 Emilio G. Segre (Physics)
      > > Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1989)
      > > 1960 Donald A. Glaser (Physics)
      > > Professor of Molecular Biology and of Physics
      > > 1961 Melvin Calvin (Chemistry)
      > > University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
      > > Director Emeritus, Laboratory of Chemical Biodynamics
      > > 1964 Charles H. Townes (Physics)
      > > University Professor of Physics, Emeritus
      > > 1968 Luis Alvarez (Physics)
      > > Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1988)
      > > 1980 Czeslaw Milosz (Literature)
      > > Professor of Slavic Languages and Literature, Emeritus
      > > 1983 Gerard Debreu (Economics)
      > > Professor of Economics and of Mathematics
      > > 1986 Yuan T. Lee (Chemistry)
      > > Professor of Chemistry
      > > Principal Investigator, Materials and Molecular Research
      > > Division, Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
      > > 1994 John C. Harsanyi (Economics)
      > > Professor of Economics (d. 2000)
      > > 2000 Daniel L. McFadden (Economics)
      > > Professor of Economics
      >
      >
      > Termin 'useful idiots' powinines wiedziec, ze odnosi sie do ludzi z
      > wyksztalceniem ale calkowicie zagubionych w swoich ocenach moralnych swiata.
      
      D : równie dobrze może więc dotyczyć Ciebie. Podaj nazwiska o kogo Ci chodzi,
      narazie zamiast podjąć jakąkolwiek merytoryczna dyskusje z przedstawianymi tu
      faktami, podważyłeś je na zasadzie pochodzenia, że jak z Berkeley to od idiotów.
      
      > Moralnie mowiac na uniwersytetach ameryk. jest najwiecej confused people. To
      > tam w koncu siedzi cala lewica USA, to tam popierano komunizm,Stalina i
      > wszystkie rezimy Trzeciego Swiata. Nie zapominaj,ze kadra obecnych profesorow
      > to byli hippisi lat 60-tych
      > Ja nie twierdze, ze to sa zli albo nie wyksztalceni ludzie.
      > Poprostu b. confused.
      > Pol Pot skonczyl zaszczytna francuska Sorbone!
      
      Nie cytuje Sorbony.Jeśli wykształceni ludzie w USA to sami komuniści to
      rzeczywiście jest wiekszy dramat niż myślałem. Zwłaszcz, że Ci niewykształceni
      reprezentują pogląd, że "Moralne jest tylko to co robi USA". Jest to taka sama
      moralnośc jak stalinowska. A mnie mało obchodzą fikcyjne już dzisiaj podziały
      na komunistów i kapitalistów. Jeśli ktoś rości sobie jakieś specjalne prawa tak
      jak czynia to USA i Izrael to trzeba ich "prześwietlać" by wiedzieć co się za
      tym wszystkim kryje.
      - Gość: kapitalizm Re: głupota kapitalizmu IP: *.proxy.aol.com 14.10.02, 05:31
        
        Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
        
        > kapitalizm napisał:
        >
        > > Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
        > >
        > > > kapitalizm napisał:
        > > >
        > > > > Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > <a
        > > > href="<a
        > > href="<a
        > href="<a
        href="www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm.............."ta
        > "target="_blank">www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm.............."ta</a>
        > > "target="_blank">www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm..............
        > "ta</a>
        > > > rget="_blank">www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm............
        > ..
        > > 0/a>
        > > > > ."target="_blank">www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm...
        > .....
        > > .....
        > > > ..</a>
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > Czlowieku co Ty cytujesz? Berkeley? To Ty nie wiesz, ze cala A
        > meryk
        > > a sie
        > > >
        > > > > smieje z Tych 'useful idiots'.
        > > > > Nie na darmo ma przydomek 'Bizzerkley'
        > > >
        > > > Diabeł : No tak, sami idioci, 17 nagród Nobla w tym Czesław Miłosz. P
        > ewnie
        > >
        > > > najwiekszy z nich ?
        > > > -----------------------------------
        > > > <a
        > > href="sunsite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html"target="_blank"
        > 2suns
        > > > ite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html</a>
        > > > Cal Nobel Prize Winners
        > > > The University of California, Berkeley, can boast of having 17 Nobel
        >
        > > Laureates
        > > >
        > > > in its distinguished history of research and discovery. Beginning wit
        > h Ern
        > > est
        > > > O. Lawrence in 1939, these professors represent a wide range of schol
        > arly
        > > > pursuits: from physics to economics, from molecular and cell biology
        > to
        > > slavic
        > > > languages and literature. Cal has had more Nobel Laureates than any o
        > ther
        > > > American university except Harvard and the University of Chicago.
        > > >
        > > > Award Year Recipients
        > > > 1939 Ernest O. Lawrence (Physics) (d. 1958)
        > > > 1946 Wendell M. Stanley (Chemistry) (d. 1971)
        > > > 1945 John H. Northrop (Chemistry) (d. 1987)
        > > > 1949 William F. Giauque (Chemistry) (d. 1982)
        > > > 1951 Edwin M. McMillan, Chemistry (Chemistry)
        > > > Professor of Physics, Emeritus
        > > > Director Emeritus, Lawrence Berkeley
        > > > Laboratory (d. 1991)
        > > > 1951 Glenn T. Seaborg (Chemistry)
        > > > University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
        > > > Associate Director, Lawrence Berkeley
        > > > Laboratory (d. 1999)
        > > > 1959 Owen Chamberlain (Physics)
        > > > Professor of Physics
        > > > 1959 Emilio G. Segre (Physics)
        > > > Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1989)
        > > > 1960 Donald A. Glaser (Physics)
        > > > Professor of Molecular Biology and of Physics
        > > > 1961 Melvin Calvin (Chemistry)
        > > > University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
        > > > Director Emeritus, Laboratory of Chemical Biodynamics
        > > > 1964 Charles H. Townes (Physics)
        > > > University Professor of Physics, Emeritus
        > > > 1968 Luis Alvarez (Physics)
        > > > Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1988)
        > > > 1980 Czeslaw Milosz (Literature)
        > > > Professor of Slavic Languages and Literature, Emeritus
        > > > 1983 Gerard Debreu (Economics)
        > > > Professor of Economics and of Mathematics
        > > > 1986 Yuan T. Lee (Chemistry)
        > > > Professor of Chemistry
        > > > Principal Investigator, Materials and Molecular Research
        > > > Division, Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
        > > > 1994 John C. Harsanyi (Economics)
        > > > Professor of Economics (d. 2000)
        > > > 2000 Daniel L. McFadden (Economics)
        > > > Professor of Economics
        > >
        > >
        > > Termin 'useful idiots' powinines wiedziec, ze odnosi sie do ludzi z
        > > wyksztalceniem ale calkowicie zagubionych w swoich ocenach moralnych swiat
        > a.
        >
        > D : równie dobrze może więc dotyczyć Ciebie. Podaj nazwiska o kogo Ci chodzi,
        > narazie zamiast podjąć jakąkolwiek merytoryczna dyskusje z przedstawianymi tu
        > faktami, podważyłeś je na zasadzie pochodzenia, że jak z Berkeley to od
        idiotów
        > .
        >
        >
        > > Moralnie mowiac na uniwersytetach ameryk. jest najwiecej confused people.
        > To
        > > tam w koncu siedzi cala lewica USA, to tam popierano komunizm,Stalina i
        > > wszystkie rezimy Trzeciego Swiata. Nie zapominaj,ze kadra obecnych profeso
        > row
        > > to byli hippisi lat 60-tych
        > > Ja nie twierdze, ze to sa zli albo nie wyksztalceni ludzie.
        > > Poprostu b. confused.
        > > Pol Pot skonczyl zaszczytna francuska Sorbone!
        >
        > Nie cytuje Sorbony.Jeśli wykształceni ludzie w USA to sami komuniści to
        > rzeczywiście jest wiekszy dramat niż myślałem. Zwłaszcz, że Ci
        niewykształceni
        > reprezentują pogląd, że "Moralne jest tylko to co robi USA". Jest to taka
        sama
        > moralnośc jak stalinowska. A mnie mało obchodzą fikcyjne już dzisiaj podziały
        > na komunistów i kapitalistów. Jeśli ktoś rości sobie jakieś specjalne prawa
        tak
        >
        > jak czynia to USA i Izrael to trzeba ich "prześwietlać" by wiedzieć co się za
        > tym wszystkim kryje.
        
        Jeszcze raz:
        to, ze z Berkeley nie znaczy komunista i wcale tego nie powiedzialem, wiec nie
        wiem o czym mowisz. W USA nigdy nie bylo prawdziwego ruchu komunistycznego(na
        szczescie),
        'useful idiots' - pochodzi od Chruszczowa, jak dowiedzial sie, ze
        intelektualisci w USA(min.Berkeley) demonstrowali przeciw Kennedyemu a w
        obronie Sowietow,
        stad do dzisiaj mowi sie o Berkeley 'bizarkley' od slowa bizarre - 'dziwactwo',
        jak powinnienes wiedziec srodowiska studenckie w USA sa hermentycznie zamkniete
        struktury naukowe, zamkniete od swiata zewnetrznego, stwarza to po czesci
        wysoka specjalizacja naukowa jak i olbrzymia ilosc studentow i kadry, to nie sa
        uniwersytety jak w Europie z 2-10tys studentow ale 100 i wiecej, to sa
        prawdziwe miasta!
        ale to juz powinienes wywnioskowac z ilosci procentowej ludzi ksztalcacych sie
        w USA, jest najwyzsza na swiecie,
        mysle, ze teraz juz pomoglem Ci zrozumiec pare faktow,
        nawiesem mowiac, gdzie Ty mieszkasz?
        
        Gość: diabeł komunistyczne metody kapitalizmu IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 14.10.02, 10:09
        
        Gość portalu: kapitalizm napisał(a):
        
        ) Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
        )
        ) ) kapitalizm napisał:
        ) )
        ) ) ) Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
        ) ) )
        ) ) ) ) kapitalizm napisał:
        ) ) ) )
        ) ) ) ) ) Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
        ) ) ) ) )
        href="http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm.............."ta
        ) "target="_blank")www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm.............."ta(/a)
        
        ) ) ) ) )
        ) ) ) ) ) Czlowieku co Ty cytujesz? Berkeley? To Ty nie wiesz, ze c
        ) ala Ameryka sie smieje z Tych 'useful idiots'.
        ) ) ) ) ) Nie na darmo ma przydomek 'Bizzerkley'
        ) ) ) )
        ) ) ) ) Diabeł : No tak, sami idioci, 17 nagród Nobla w tym Czesław Miło
        ) sz. Pewnie najwiekszy z nich ?
        ) ) ) ) -----------------------------------
        ) ) ) ) (a
        ) ) ) href="(a href="http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html"targ
        )
        et="_blank""target="_blank")sunsite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html"target=
        ) "_blank"(/a)
        ) ) 2suns
        ) ) ) ) ite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html(/a)
        ) ) ) ) Cal Nobel Prize Winners
        ) ) ) ) The University of California, Berkeley, can boast of having 17
        ) Nobel Laure in its distinguished history of research and discovery. Beginnin
        ) g with Ernest O. Lawrence in 1939, these professors represent a wide range of
        ) scholarly pursuits: from physics to economics, from molecular and cell bio
        ) logy to slavic languages and literature. Cal has had more Nobel Laureates
        than any other American university except Harvard and the University of Chicago
        
        ) ) ) ) Award Year Recipients
        ) ) ) ) 1939 Ernest O. Lawrence (Physics) (d. 1958)
        ) ) ) ) 1946 Wendell M. Stanley (Chemistry) (d. 1971)
        ) ) ) ) 1945 John H. Northrop (Chemistry) (d. 1987)
        ) ) ) ) 1949 William F. Giauque (Chemistry) (d. 1982)
        ) ) ) ) 1951 Edwin M. McMillan, Chemistry (Chemistry)
        ) ) ) ) Professor of Physics, Emeritus
        ) ) ) ) Director Emeritus, Lawrence Berkeley
        ) ) ) ) Laboratory (d. 1991)
        ) ) ) ) 1951 Glenn T. Seaborg (Chemistry)
        ) ) ) ) University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
        ) ) ) ) Associate Director, Lawrence Berkeley
        ) ) ) ) Laboratory (d. 1999)
        ) ) ) ) 1959 Owen Chamberlain (Physics)
        ) ) ) ) Professor of Physics
        ) ) ) ) 1959 Emilio G. Segre (Physics)
        ) ) ) ) Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1989)
        ) ) ) ) 1960 Donald A. Glaser (Physics)
        ) ) ) ) Professor of Molecular Biology and of Physics
        ) ) ) ) 1961 Melvin Calvin (Chemistry)
        ) ) ) ) University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
        ) ) ) ) Director Emeritus, Laboratory of Chemical Biodynamics
        ) ) ) ) 1964 Charles H. Townes (Physics)
        ) ) ) ) University Professor of Physics, Emeritus
        ) ) ) ) 1968 Luis Alvarez (Physics)
        ) ) ) ) Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1988)
        ) ) ) ) 1980 Czeslaw Milosz (Literature)
        ) ) ) ) Professor of Slavic Languages and Literature, Emeritus
        ) ) ) ) 1983 Gerard Debreu (Economics)
        ) ) ) ) Professor of Economics and of Mathematics
        ) ) ) ) 1986 Yuan T. Lee (Chemistry)
        ) ) ) ) Professor of Chemistry
        ) ) ) ) Principal Investigator, Materials and Molecular Research
        ) ) ) ) Division, Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
        ) ) ) ) 1994 John C. Harsanyi (Economics)
        ) ) ) ) Professor of Economics (d. 2000)
        ) ) ) ) 2000 Daniel L. McFadden (Economics)
        ) ) ) ) Professor of Economics
        ) ) )
        ) ) )
        ) ) ) Termin 'useful idiots' powinines wiedziec, ze odnosi sie do ludzi z
        ) ) ) wyksztalceniem ale calkowicie zagubionych w swoich ocenach moralnych
        ) swiata.
        ) )
        ) ) D : równie dobrze może więc dotyczyć Ciebie. Podaj nazwiska o kogo Ci chod
        ) zi, narazie zamiast podjąć jakąkolwiek merytoryczna dyskusje z
        przedstawianymi tu faktami, podważyłeś je na zasadzie pochodzenia, że jak z
        Berkeley to od idiotów) ) .
        
        ) ) ) Moralnie mowiac na uniwersytetach ameryk. jest najwiecej confused peo
        ) ple. To tam w koncu siedzi cala lewica USA, to tam popierano komunizm,Stalina
        ) i wszystkie rezimy Trzeciego Swiata. Nie zapominaj,ze kadra obecnych pr
        ) ofesorow to byli hippisi lat 60-tych
        ) ) ) Ja nie twierdze, ze to sa zli albo nie wyksztalceni ludzie.
        ) ) ) Poprostu b. confused.
        ) ) ) Pol Pot skonczyl zaszczytna francuska Sorbone!
        ) )
        ) ) Nie cytuje Sorbony.Jeśli wykształceni ludzie w USA to sami komuniści to
        ) ) rzeczywiście jest wiekszy dramat niż myślałem. Zwłaszcz, że Ci
        ) niewykształceni reprezentują pogląd, że "Moralne jest tylko to co robi USA".
        Jest to taka sama moralnośc jak stalinowska. A mnie mało obchodzą fikcyjne już
        dzisiaj podzi ały na komunistów i kapitalistów. Jeśli ktoś rości sobie jakieś
        specjalne praw a tak jak czynia to USA i Izrael to trzeba ich "prześwietlać" by
        wiedzieć co się za tym wszystkim kryje.
        )
        )
        ) Jeszcze raz:
        ) to, ze z Berkeley nie znaczy komunista i wcale tego nie powiedzialem, wiec
        nie wiem o czym mowisz. W USA nigdy nie bylo prawdziwego ruchu komunistycznego
        (na szczescie),
        ) 'useful idiots' - pochodzi od Chruszczowa, jak dowiedzial sie, ze
        ) intelektualisci w USA(min.Berkeley) demonstrowali przeciw Kennedyemu a w
        ) obronie Sowietow, stad do dzisiaj mowi sie o Berkeley 'bizarkley' od slowa
        bizarre - 'dziwactwo',
        ) jak powinnienes wiedziec srodowiska studenckie w USA sa hermentycznie
        zamkniete struktury naukowe, zamkniete od swiata zewnetrznego, stwarza to po
        czesci wysoka specjalizacja naukowa jak i olbrzymia ilosc studentow i kadry,
        to nie sa uniwersytety jak w Europie z 2-10tys studentow ale 100 i wiecej, to
        sa prawdziwe miasta!
        ) ale to juz powinienes wywnioskowac z ilosci procentowej ludzi ksztalcacych
        sie w USA, jest najwyzsza na swiecie,mysle, ze teraz juz pomoglem Ci zrozumiec
        pare faktow,nawiesem mowiac, gdzie Ty mieszkasz?
        
        1. Przyznam,że ciężko sie z Toba porozumieć.Zamieszczony na stronie
        Uniwersytetu w Berkeley tekst Bluma skwitowałeś stwierdzeniem,że Berkeley
        to "Bizzerkley" i wszyscy w USA się z nich śmieją. No więc sie pytam, czy z
        tych laureatów Nobla też się wszyscy śmieją?
        
        2. Argumentowanie przeciwko czyimś poglądom przez odnoszenie się do miejsca
        gdzie są publikowane jest śmieszne. To tak jakbym ja cytując Ciebie napisał
        że cytuje Gazete Wyborczą. A ponieważ to gazeta lewicowa to jesteś jednym z
        dawnych naprawiaczy stalinizmu. To są komunistycne metody dyskutowania.
        Nie ważne są poglądy z którymi się dyskutuje tylko dyskredytacja autora.
        
        3.Wcześniej cytowałem artykuł Bluma ze strony Uniwersytetu Wrocławskiego
        można by w polemice z Blumem zdyskredytować Uniwersytet Wrocławski?
        
        4. o tym, że środowiska lewicowe są silne na amerykanskich uniwersytetach
        doskonale wiem, ale co to za argument wobec cytowanych poglądów Bluma?
        Dzisiaj już nie ma dwóch obozów : kapitalizmu i socjalizmu.Został tylko
        kapitalizm i to jako jedyny w miarę poprawnie funkcjonujący system ekonomiczny.
        Dlatego też kwitowanie każdej krytyki poczynań dowolnego kraju
        kapitalistycznego mianem komunizmu czy lewactwa przypomina metody krytyki
        kapitalizmu przez system sowiecki........ Ale dzisiaj już Chiny i Rosja to też
        kraje kapitalistyczne w sensie ekonomii. Ciekawe więc czy krytykowanie Rosji
        za ludobójstwa i okupacje CZeczenii to też lewactwo i komunizm?
        Ameryka moralnie milczy i załatwia własne interesy. Izrael też ma wolną rękę do
        samoobrony, która niczym nie różni się od agresji. Jak wogóle można mówić o
        amerykanskiej moralnośći ??????????????
        
        PS. Mieszkam w Krakowie.
        PS. Co sądzisz o epoce MacCarthyzmu?
        
        Gość: kapitalizm Re: komunistyczne metody kapitalizmu IP: *.proxy.aol.com 15.10.02, 22:57
        
        Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
        
        ) Gość portalu: kapitalizm napisał(a):
        )
        ) ) Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
        ) )
        ) ) ) kapitalizm napisał:
        ) ) )
        ) ) ) ) Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
        ) ) ) )
        ) ) ) ) ) kapitalizm napisał:
        ) ) ) ) )
        ) ) ) ) ) ) Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
        ) ) ) ) ) )
        ) href="http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm.............."ta
        ) ) "target="_blank")www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~marto/aip/blum.htm.............."ta
        (/a
        ) )
        )
        ) ) ) ) ) )
        ) ) ) ) ) ) Czlowieku co Ty cytujesz? Berkeley? To Ty nie wiesz, ze c
        ) ) ala Ameryka sie smieje z Tych 'useful idiots'.
        ) ) ) ) ) ) Nie na darmo ma przydomek 'Bizzerkley'
        ) ) ) ) )
        ) ) ) ) ) Diabeł : No tak, sami idioci, 17 nagród Nobla w tym Czesław Miło
        ) ) sz. Pewnie najwiekszy z nich ?
        ) ) ) ) ) -----------------------------------
        ) ) ) ) ) (a
        ) ) ) ) href="(a href="http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html"targ
        ) )
        ) et="_blank""target="_blank")
        sunsite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html"target=
        ) ) "_blank"(/a)
        ) ) ) 2suns
        ) ) ) ) ) ite.berkeley.edu/calhistory/nobel.html(/a)
        ) ) ) ) ) Cal Nobel Prize Winners
        ) ) ) ) ) The University of California, Berkeley, can boast of having 17
        ) ) Nobel Laure in its distinguished history of research and discovery. Beginnin
        ) ) g with Ernest O. Lawrence in 1939, these professors represent a wide range
        of
        )
        ) ) scholarly pursuits: from physics to economics, from molecular and cell bio
        ) ) logy to slavic languages and literature. Cal has had more Nobel Laureates
        ) than any other American university except Harvard and the University of
        Chicag
        ) o
        )
        ) ) ) ) ) Award Year Recipients
        ) ) ) ) ) 1939 Ernest O. Lawrence (Physics) (d. 1958)
        ) ) ) ) ) 1946 Wendell M. Stanley (Chemistry) (d. 1971)
        ) ) ) ) ) 1945 John H. Northrop (Chemistry) (d. 1987)
        ) ) ) ) ) 1949 William F. Giauque (Chemistry) (d. 1982)
        ) ) ) ) ) 1951 Edwin M. McMillan, Chemistry (Chemistry)
        ) ) ) ) ) Professor of Physics, Emeritus
        ) ) ) ) ) Director Emeritus, Lawrence Berkeley
        ) ) ) ) ) Laboratory (d. 1991)
        ) ) ) ) ) 1951 Glenn T. Seaborg (Chemistry)
        ) ) ) ) ) University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
        ) ) ) ) ) Associate Director, Lawrence Berkeley
        ) ) ) ) ) Laboratory (d. 1999)
        ) ) ) ) ) 1959 Owen Chamberlain (Physics)
        ) ) ) ) ) Professor of Physics
        ) ) ) ) ) 1959 Emilio G. Segre (Physics)
        ) ) ) ) ) Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1989)
        ) ) ) ) ) 1960 Donald A. Glaser (Physics)
        ) ) ) ) ) Professor of Molecular Biology and of Physics
        ) ) ) ) ) 1961 Melvin Calvin (Chemistry)
        ) ) ) ) ) University Professor of Chemistry, Emeritus
        ) ) ) ) ) Director Emeritus, Laboratory of Chemical Biodynamics
        ) ) ) ) ) 1964 Charles H. Townes (Physics)
        ) ) ) ) ) University Professor of Physics, Emeritus
        ) ) ) ) ) 1968 Luis Alvarez (Physics)
        ) ) ) ) ) Professor of Physics, Emeritus (d. 1988)
        ) ) ) ) ) 1980 Czeslaw Milosz (Literature)
        ) ) ) ) ) Professor of Slavic Languages and Literature, Emeritus
        ) ) ) ) ) 1983 Gerard Debreu (Economics)
        ) ) ) ) ) Professor of Economics and of Mathematics
        ) ) ) ) ) 1986 Yuan T. Lee (Chemistry)
        ) ) ) ) ) Professor of Chemistry
        ) ) ) ) ) Principal Investigator, Materials and Molecular Research
        ) ) ) ) ) Division, Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
        ) ) ) ) ) 1994 John C. Harsanyi (Economics)
        ) ) ) ) ) Professor of Economics (d. 2000)
        ) ) ) ) ) 2000 Daniel L. McFadden (Economics)
        ) ) ) ) ) Professor of Economics
        ) ) ) )
        ) ) ) )
        ) ) ) ) Termin 'useful idiots' powinines wiedziec, ze odnosi sie do ludzi z
        ) ) ) ) wyksztalceniem ale calkowicie zagubionych w swoich ocenach moralnych
        ) ) swiata.
        ) ) )
        ) ) ) D : równie dobrze może więc dotyczyć Ciebie. Podaj nazwiska o kogo Ci chod
        ) ) zi, narazie zamiast podjąć jakąkolwiek merytoryczna dyskusje z
        ) przedstawianymi tu faktami, podważyłeś je na zasadzie pochodzenia, że jak z
        ) Berkeley to od idiotów) ) .
        )
        ) ) ) ) Moralnie mowiac na uniwersytetach ameryk. jest najwiecej confused peo
        ) ) ple. To tam w koncu siedzi cala lewica USA, to tam popierano
        komunizm,Stalin
        ) a
        ) ) i wszystkie rezimy Trzeciego Swiata. Nie zapominaj,ze kadra obecnych pr
        ) ) ofesorow to byli hippisi lat 60-tych
        ) ) ) ) Ja nie twierdze, ze to sa zli albo nie wyksztalceni ludzie.
        ) ) ) ) Poprostu b. confused.
        ) ) ) ) Pol Pot skonczyl zaszczytna francuska Sorbone!
        ) ) )
        ) ) ) Nie cytuje Sorbony.Jeśli wykształceni ludzie w USA to sami komuniści to
        ) ) ) rzeczywiście jest wiekszy dramat niż myślałem. Zwłaszcz, że Ci
        ) ) niewykształceni reprezentują pogląd, że "Moralne jest tylko to co robi
        USA".
        ) Jest to taka sama moralnośc jak stalinowska. A mnie mało obchodzą fikcyjne
        już
        )
        ) dzisiaj podzi ały na komunistów i kapitalistów. Jeśli ktoś rości sobie jakieś
        ) specjalne praw a tak jak czynia to USA i Izrael to trzeba ich "prześwietlać"
        by
        )
        ) wiedzieć co się za tym wszystkim kryje.
        ) )
        ) )
        ) ) Jeszcze raz:
        ) ) to, ze z Berkeley nie znaczy komunista i wcale tego nie powiedzialem, wiec
        ) nie wiem o czym mowisz. W USA nigdy nie bylo prawdziwego ruchu komunistycznego
        ) (na szczescie),
        ) ) 'useful idiots' - pochodzi od Chruszczowa, jak dowiedzial sie, ze
        ) ) intelektualisci w USA(min.Berkeley) demonstrowali przeciw Kennedyemu a w
        ) ) obronie Sowietow, stad do dzisiaj mowi sie o Berkeley 'bizarkley' od slowa
        ) bizarre - 'dziwactwo',
        ) ) jak powinnienes wiedziec srodowiska studenckie w USA sa hermentycznie
        ) zamkniete struktury naukowe, zamkniete od swiata zewnetrznego, stwarza to po
        ) czesci wysoka specjalizacja naukowa jak i olbrzymia ilosc studentow i kadry,
        ) to nie sa uniwersytety jak w Europie z 2-10tys studentow ale 100 i wiecej, to
        ) sa prawdziwe miasta!
        ) ) ale to juz powinienes wywnioskowac z ilosci procentowej ludzi ksztalcacych
        ) sie w USA, jest najwyzsza na swiecie,mysle, ze teraz juz pomoglem Ci
        zrozumiec
        )
        ) pare faktow,nawiesem mowiac, gdzie Ty mieszkasz?
        )
        ) 1. Przyznam,że ciężko sie z Toba porozumieć.Zamieszczony na stronie
        ) Uniwersytetu w Berkeley tekst Bluma skwitowałeś stwierdzeniem,że Berkeley
        ) to "Bizzerkley" i wszyscy w USA się z nich śmieją. No więc sie pytam, czy z
        ) tych laureatów Nobla też się wszyscy śmieją?
        )
        ) 2. Argumentowanie przeciwko czyimś poglądom przez odnoszenie się do miejsca
        ) gdzie są publikowane jest śmieszne. To tak jakbym ja cytując Ciebie napisał
        ) że cytuje Gazete Wyborczą. A ponieważ to gazeta lewicowa to jesteś jednym z
        ) dawnych naprawiaczy stalinizmu. To są komunistycne metody dyskutowania.
        ) Nie ważne są poglądy z którymi się dyskutuje tylko dyskredytacja autora.
        )
        ) 3.Wcześniej cytowałem artykuł Bluma ze strony Uniwersytetu Wrocławskiego
        ) można by w polemice z Blumem zdyskredytować Uniwersytet Wrocławski?
        )
        ) 4. o tym, że środowiska lewicowe są silne na amerykanskich uniwersytetach
        ) doskonale wiem, ale co to za argument wobec cytowanych poglądów Bluma?
        ) Dzisiaj już nie ma dwóch obozów : kapitalizmu i socjalizmu.Został tylko
        ) kapitalizm i to jako jedyny w miarę poprawnie funkcjonujący system
        ekonomiczny.
        ) Dlatego też kwitowanie każdej krytyki poczynań dowolnego kraju
        ) kapitalistycznego mianem komunizmu czy lewactwa przypomina metody krytyki
        ) kapitalizmu przez system sowiecki........ Ale dzisiaj już Chiny i Rosja to
        też
        ) kraje kapitalistyczne w sensie ekonomii. Ciekawe więc czy krytykowanie Rosji
        ) za ludobójstwa i okupacje CZeczenii to też lewactwo i komunizm?
        ) Ameryka moralnie milczy i załatwia własne interesy. Izrael też ma wolną rękę
        d
        ) o
        ) samoobrony, która niczym nie różni się od agresji. Jak wogóle można mówić o
        ) amerykanskiej moralnośći ??????????????
        )
        ) PS. Mieszkam w Krakowie.
        ) PS. Co sądzisz o epoce MacCarthyzmu?
        
        Izrael też ma wolną rękę d
        ) o
        ) samoobrony, która niczym nie różni się od agresji.
  - Gość: Tomez Re: głupota kapitalizmu IP: Stella.NET:* / 172.16.1.* 11.10.02, 18:22
    
    Panowie: diabeł i inni, zabieracie głos na polskim portalu, w kraju, gdzie
    obowiązuje język polski, więc uprzejmie proszę: przestańcie pierdolić po
    angielskiemu, dobrze?! Jak chcecie się nim posługiwać, to idźcie np. do YAHOO.
    - Gość: diabeł Re: głupota kapitalizmu IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 11.10.02, 18:47
      
      Gość portalu: Tomez napisał(a):
      
      > Panowie: diabeł i inni, zabieracie głos na polskim portalu, w kraju, gdzie
      > obowiązuje język polski, więc uprzejmie proszę: przestańcie pierdolić po
      > angielskiemu, dobrze?! Jak chcecie się nim posługiwać, to idźcie np. do YAHOO.
      
      piszesz bzdury. można pisać na tym forum w dowolnym języku, nawet po chińsku
      jak to się komuś podoba. skąd pomysł na takie ograniczenia ?

Gość: diabeł CIA Mind Control IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 06.10.02, 21:13

http://www.insteadof.com/TerrorAttack/p27.htm
MKULTRA is one of the most disturbing instances
of intelligence community abuse on record.
MKULTRA: CIA Mind Control

by Jon Elliston

For many Americans, the 1950s were a docile decade. In U.S. history books, the
period is mostly portrayed as a mellow, orderly one, especially in light of the
social upheavals that followed in the 1960s. But for the CIA, the "I Like Ike"
years were packed with adventure and action, much of it conducted outside of
the public's view. Few programs were sheltered with more secrecy than the
Agency's mind control experiments, identified together with the code-name
MKULTRA.

Concerned about rumors of communist brainwashing of POWs during the Korean war,
in April 1953 CIA Director Allen Dulles authorized the MKULTRA program, which
would later become notorious for the unusual and sometimes inhumane tests that
the CIA financed. Reviewing the experiments five years later, one secrecy-
conscious CIA auditor wrote: "Precautions must be taken not only to protect
operations from exposure to enemy forces but also to conceal these activities
from the American public in general. The knowledge that the agency is engaging
in unethical and illicit activities would have serious repercussions in
political and diplomatic circles."

Though many of the documents related to MKULTRA were destroyed by the CIA in
1972, some records relating to the program have made it into the public domain,
and the work of historians, investigative reporters, and various congressional
committees has resulted in the release of enough information to make MKULTRA
one of the most disturbing instances of intelligence community abuse on record.
As writer Mark Zepezauer puts it, "the surviving history is nasty enough."

The most notorious MKULTRA experiments were the CIA's pioneering studies of the
drug that would years later feed the heads of millions: lysergic acid
diethylamide, or LSD. The CIA was intrigued by the drug, and harbored hopes
that acid or a similar drug could be used to clandestinely disorient and
manipulate target foreign leaders. (The Agency would consider several such
schemes in its pursuit of Cuban leader Fidel Castro, who they wanted to send
into a drug-induced stupor or tirade during a public or live radio speech.) LSD
was also viewed as a way to loosen tongues in CIA interrogations.

In his thorough book on MKULTRA and similar projects, The Search for
the "Manchurian Candidate," John Marks reports that most of the CIA researchers
tried LSD themselves. In fact, an early phase of the experiments was probably
the setting for the first acid trip in the United States

Gość: diabeł crimes against humanity IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 07.10.02, 23:19

A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

By Steve Kangas

/.../In a speech before the CIA celebrating its 50th anniversary, President
Clinton said: "By necessity, the American people will never know the full story
of your courage."

Clinton’s is a common defense of the CIA: namely, the American people should
stop criticizing the CIA because they don’t know what it really does. This, of
course, is the heart of the problem in the first place. An agency that is above
criticism is also above moral behavior and reform. Its secrecy and lack of
accountability allows its corruption to grow unchecked.

Furthermore, Clinton’s statement is simply untrue. The history of the agency is
growing painfully clear, especially with the declassification of historical CIA
documents. We may not know the details of specific operations, but we do know,
quite well, the general behavior of the CIA. These facts began emerging nearly
two decades ago at an ever-quickening pace. Today we have a remarkably accurate
and consistent picture, repeated in country after country, and verified from
countless different directions.

The CIA’s response to this growing knowledge and criticism follows a typical
historical pattern. (Indeed, there are remarkable parallels to the Medieval
Church’s fight against the Scientific Revolution.) The first journalists and
writers to reveal the CIA’s criminal behavior were harassed and censored if
they were American writers, and tortured and murdered if they were foreigners.
(See Philip Agee’s On the Run for an example of early harassment.) However,
over the last two decades the tide of evidence has become overwhelming, and the
CIA has found that it does not have enough fingers to plug every hole in the
dike. This is especially true in the age of the Internet, where information
flows freely among millions of people. Since censorship is impossible, the
Agency must now defend itself with apologetics. Clinton’s "Americans will never
know" defense is a prime example.

Another common apologetic is that "the world is filled with unsavory
characters, and we must deal with them if we are to protect American interests
at all." There are two things wrong with this. First, it ignores the fact that
the CIA has regularly spurned alliances with defenders of democracy, free
speech and human rights, preferring the company of military dictators and
tyrants. The CIA had moral options available to them, but did not take them.

Second, this argument begs several questions. The first is: "Which American
interests?" The CIA has courted right-wing dictators because they allow wealthy
Americans to exploit the country’s cheap labor and resources. But poor and
middle-class Americans pay the price whenever they fight the wars that stem
from CIA actions, from Vietnam to the Gulf War to Panama. The second begged
question is: "Why should American interests come at the expense of other
peoples’ human rights?"

The CIA should be abolished, its leadership dismissed and its relevant members
tried for crimes against humanity. Our intelligence community should be rebuilt
from the ground up, with the goal of collecting and analyzing information. As
for covert action, there are two moral options. The first one is to eliminate
covert action completely. But this gives jitters to people worried about the
Adolf Hitlers of the world. So a second option is that we can place covert
action under extensive and true democratic oversight. For example, a bipartisan
Congressional Committee of 40 members could review and veto all aspects of CIA
operations upon a majority or super-majority vote. Which of these two options
is best may be the subject of debate, but one thing is clear: like
dictatorship, like monarchy, unaccountable covert operations should die like
the dinosaurs they are.

Gość: diabeł human radiation experiments IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 07.10.02, 23:27

Interim Report of the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments
http://www.webcom.com/~pinknoiz/coldwar/ciaradiation.html
Appendix, pp. E-1.1 to 1.6

History and Organization of the Central Intelligence Agency
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was created in 1947 by the National
Security Act, which also established the Department of Defense (DOD) and the
National Security Council (NSC). CIA was modeled largely after the Office of
Strategic Services, which served as the principal U.S. intelligence
organization during World War II. The newly created agency was authorized to
engage in foreign intelligence collection (i.e., espionage). analysis. and
covert actions, it was, however, prohibited from engaging in domestic police or
internal security functions. Nonetheless, CIA engaged in a program of domestic
human experimentation from the 1950s into the 1970s.

CIA components most likely to have. been associated with any experiment are the
Office of Scientific Intelligence (OSI) in the Directorate of Intelligence, the
Office of Security, the Technical Services Division (TSD) in the then-
Directorate of Plans (DDP, now Directorate of Operations), and (at least from
1962) the Office of Research and Development (ORD) in the Directorate of
Science and Technology. Beginning in the late 1940s, OSI analyzed and
disseminated foreign scientific, and medical intelligence concerning the
development and testing of atomic weapons and interacted with DOD and the
Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) on these issues. TSD ran Project MKULTRA,
discussed below. Human experimentation was done prior to MKULTRA by OSI and the
Office of Security and, after MKULTRA, by ORD.

Experiments

To date, CIA has found no records or other information indicating that it
conducted or sponsored human radiation experiments.

Records Search

In response to the January 1994 presidential directive, CIA conducted an agency-
wide search for information about human radiation experiments that it may have
conducted.[1] At the Committee's initial meeting in April 1994, CIA stated that
the search encompassed an electronic review of approximately 34 million
documents, a manual review of 480,300 documents, and nearly 50 interviews. CIA
also stated that it had found no documents relating to experiments conducted by
other agencies. The Committee, however, has since found records indicating that
CIA officers did participate in DOD groups in which human radiation
experiments, including those involving the placement of troops at atmospheric
weapons tests, were discussed and planned. As discussed below, CIA is
continuing to search for documents relating to these and other activities.

Beginning in the early 1950s, CIA engaged in an extensive program of human
experimentation, using drugs, psychological. and other means in search of
techniques to control human behavior CIA has so far found no evidence that
radiation experiments on humans were part of this program. CIA documents and a
1963 CIA Inspector General (IG) report. however state quite clearly
that .MKULTRA was a program "concerned with research and development of
chemical. biological. and radiological materials capable of employment in
clandestine operations to control human behavior." (emphasis added) The IG
report states that "additional avenues to the control of human behavior had
been designated . . as appropriate to investigation under the MKULTRA charter,
including radiation, electroshock. various fields of psychology, sociology, and
anthropology, graphology, harassment substances, and paramilitary devices and
materials." (emphasis added)[2] The program included unwitting experimentation
on humans with LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide), brainwashing, and other
interrogation methods.

CIA's human behavior program originated in 1950 and was motivated by Soviet,
Chinese, and North Korean use of mind control techniques. It began under the
code name BLUEBIRD (and was later known as ARTICHOKE) and was operated by the
Office of Security and OSI with support from other offices. MKULTRA formally
began in April 1953 as a special, clandestine funding mechanism for DOD human
behavior research. The program was the subject of investigations by the
Rockefeller Commission in 1975, the Senate Church Committee in 1976, and
hearings by Senator Kennedy in 1975 and 1977, however, these committees did not
focus on radiation experiments, and no such information was found by them.

CIA has told the Committee that MKULTRA involved human experimentation using
every research "avenue" listed in the MKULTRA document except for radiation.[3]
The agency also noted that most of the MKULTRA records were deliberately
destroyed in 1973 by the order of then-Director of Central Intelligence Richard
Helms[4] In early September 1991. the agency found a document that summarized
work done for ARTICHOKE which states that "[i]n addition to hypnosis. chemical
and psychiatric research. the following fields have been explored ... 7) other
physical manifestations. including heat and cold, atmospheric pressure,
radiation." (emphasis added) .Although there is no indication from this
document that radiation was explored on humans directly. it makes clear that
CIA did "explore" radiation as a possibility for the defensive and offensive
use of brainwashing and other interrogating techniques.[5]

In another MKULTRA project, CIA secretly provided funding for the construction
of a wing of Georgetown University Hospital in the 1950s so that it would have
a locale to carry out clinical testing of its biological and chemical programs.
Dr. Charles F. Geschickter, a Georgetown doctor who conducted cancer research
and experimented with radiation therapy, acted as cover for CIA financing.[6]
CIA also tried unsuccessfully to enlist AEC to co-fund the project by appealing
to its interest in Geschickter's radiation research. Geschickter testified
before Congress in 1977 that CIA money helped fund his radioisotope lab and
equipment. Thus, CIA money seems to have helped fund radiation-related medical
research as a cover for the agency's real interest in chemical and biological
research.

Records obtained from DOD and the Department of Energy (DOE) and by Committee
staff from the National Archives show that CIA was represented in key DOD
biomedical groups in which both human experiments and experimental ethics
policy were discussed and planned. At least three CIA officers were members of
DOD's Committee on Medical Sciences (CMS) from 1948 to 1953 and attended
meetings and received the "program guidance" of the DOD Joint Panel on the
Medical Aspects of Atomic Warfare. As reported elsewhere,[7] the Joint Panel
was the center for information gathering and planning for medical
experimentation, including human experiments, relating to atomic warfare; for
example, this panel helped coordinate the program of placing troops in the
vicinity of atmospheric nuclear weapons tests. In 1948 CIA also participated in
discussions regarding the proposed formation of an Armed Forces Medical
Intelligence Organization, during which it was suggested that CIA would be in
charge of foreign atomic, biological. and chemical intelligence from a medical
sciences viewpoint.[8]

CIA representatives on CMS worked for OSI (and its precursor, the Scientific
Branch). This office had principal responsibility for analyzing and
disseminating foreign atomic energy intelligence. It chaired the Joint Atomic
Energy Intelligence Committee (JAEIC, also known as the Joint Nuclear
Intelligence Committee), an interagency body that helped coordinate analyses
and activities by Departments responsible for monitoring foreign nuclear
weapons programs. It also chaired the interagency Scientific Intelligence
Committee as well as the

Gość: Tysprowda Re: human radiation experiments IP: 5.2.1R1D* / 193.188.174.* 08.10.02, 11:57

Wsrod wielu wspanialych ludzi zatrudnionych przez CIA prawie od samego
poczatku, byl niejaki Reinhardt Gehlen, znany wsrod polskiej publicznosci
jako "As wywiadu Hitlera", prawdopodobnie najlepszy szpieg wszechczasow.

Zlapany do niewoli przez Amerykanow, "przeniosl" sie do USA, zostal szlachetnym
obywatelem amerykanskim i zaraz potem pracownikiem CIA.

Gość: diabeł germ warfare IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 07.10.02, 23:30

GERM WARFARE
http://home.earthlink.net/~bkonop/GermIncidents2.html
The Hall of Shame

The United States has a long history of experimentation, on unwitting human
subjects, which goes back to the beginning of this century. Both private firms
and the military have used unknowing human populations to test various
theories. However, the extent to which human experimentation has been a part of
the U.S. Biological Weapons programs will probably never be known. The
following examples are taken from information declassified in 1977, and from
other private source accounts. Several involve incidents which are still of
unknown origins and which cannot be fully explained:

1900:
A U.S. doctor doing research in the Philippines infected of number of prisoners
with the Plague. He continued his research by inducing Beriberi in another 29
prisoners. The experiments resulted in two known fatalities.

1915:
A doctor in Mississippi produced Pellagra in twelve white Mississippi inmates
in an attempt to discover a cure for the disease.

1931:
The Puerto Rican Cancer Experiment was undertaken by Dr. Cornelius Rhoads.
Under the auspices of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations,
Rhoads purposely infected his subjects with cancer cells. Thirteen of the
subjects died. When the experiment was uncovered, and in spite of Rhoads'
written opinions that the Puerto Rican population should be eradicated, Rhoads
went on to establish U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah,
and Panama. He later was named to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission and was at
the heart of the recently revealed radiation experiments on prisoners, hospital
patients, and soldiers.

1932:
The Tuskegee Syphilis Study began. Two hundred (200) poor black men with
syphilis began a long term experiment in which those men were to be studied.
They were never told of their illness, and treatment was denied them. As many
as 100 of the original 200 died as a direct or indirect result of the illness.
The wives and children of the subjects also suffered as a result of the
disease. (The government office supervising the study was the predecessor to
today's Centers for Disease Control (CDC)).

1940's:
In a crash program to develop new drugs to fight Malaria during World War II,
doctors in the Chicago area infected nearly 400 prisoners with the disease.
Although the Chicago inmates were given general information that they were
helping with the war effort, they were not provided adequate information in
accordance with the later standards set by the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal.
Nazi doctors on trial at Nuremberg cited the Chicago studies as precedents to
defend their own behavior in aiding the German war effort.

1950:
The U.S. Navy sprayed a cloud of bacteria over San Francisco. The Navy claimed
that the bacteria was harmless, and used only to track a simulated attack, but
many San Francisco residents became ill with pneumonia-like symptoms, and one
is known to have died.

1950 - 1953:
An array of germ warfare weapons were allegedly used against North Korea.
Accounts claim that there were releases of feathers infected with anthrax,
fleas and mosquitoes dosed with Plague and Yellow Fever, and rodents infected
with a variety of diseases. These were precisely the same techniques used in
immunity from prosecution in exchange for the results of that research. The
Eisenhower administration later pressed Sedition Charges against three
Americans who published charges of these activities. However, none of those
charged were convicted.

1952 - 1953:
In another series of experiments, the U.S. military released clouds
of "harmless" gases over six (6) U.S. and Canadian cities to observe the
potential for similar releases under chemical and germ warfare scenarios. A
follow-up report by the military noted the occurrence of respiratory problems
in the unwitting civilian populations.

1955:
The Tampa Bay area of Florida experienced a sharp rise in Whooping Cough cases,
including 12 deaths, after a CIA test where a bacteria withdrawn from the
Army's Chemical and Biological Warfare arsenal was released into the
environment. Details of the test are still classified.

1956 - 1958:
In Savannah, Georgia and Avon Park, Florida, the Army carried out field tests
in which mosquitoes were released into residential neighborhoods from both
ground level and from aircraft. Many people were swarmed by Mosquitoes, and
fell ill, some even died. After each test, U.S. Army personnel posing as public
health officials photographed and tested the victims. It is theorized that the
mosquitoes were infected with a strain of Yellow Fever. However, details of the
testing remain classified.

1965:
In a three year study, 70 volunteer prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in
Philadelphia were subjected to tests of dioxin, the highly toxic chemical
contaminant in Agent Orange. Lesions which the men developed were not treated
and remained for up to seven months. None of the subjects was informed that
they would later be studied for the development of cancer. This was the second
such experiment which Dow Chemical undertook on "volunteers" who did not
receive the information which the world proclaimed was necessary for "informed
consent" at Nuremberg.

1966:
The U.S. Army dispensed a bacillus throughout the New York City subway system.
Materials available on the incident noted the Army's justification for the
experiment was the fact that there are many subways in the (former) Soviet
Union, Europe, and South America. Although there are no harmful effects known
for this release, details of the experiment are still classified.

1968 - 1969:
The CIA experimented with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by
injecting a chemical substance into the water supply of the Food And Drug
Administration in Washington, D.C.. There were no harmful effects noted from
this experiment. However, none of the human subjects in the building were ever
asked for their permission, nor was anyone provided with information on the
nature or effects of the chemical used.

1969:
On June 9, 1969, Dr. D.M. McArtor, then Deputy Director of Research and
Technology for the Department of Defense, appeared before the House
Subcommittee on Appropriations to request funding for a project to produce a
synthetic biological agent for which humans have not yet acquired a natural
immunity. Dr. McArtor asked for $10 million dollars to produce this agent over
the next 5-10 years. The Congressional Record reveals that according to the
plan for the development of this germ agent, the most important characteristic
of the new disease would be "that it might be refractory [resistant] to the
immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our
relative freedom from infectious disease". AIDS first appeared as a public
health risk ten years later.

1972:
President Nixon announced a ban on the production and use of biological (but
not chemical) warfare agents. However, as the Army's own experts reveal, this
ban is meaningless because the studies required to protect against biological
warfare weapons are generally indistinguishable from those for chemical weapons.

1977:
Ray Ravenhott, director of the population program of the U.S. Agency for
International Development (AID), publicly announced the agency's goal to
sterilize one quarter of the world's women. In reports by the St Louis Post-
Dispatch, Ravenhott in essence cited the reasoning for this being U.S.
corporate interests in avoiding the threat of revolutions which might be
spawned by chronic unemployment.

1980-1981:
Within months of their incarceration in detention centers in Miami and Puerto
Rico, many male Haitian refugees developed an unusual condition

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http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/S&L_Scandal_CIA.html
Organized Crime, The CIA and the Savings and Loan Scandal
Internet article

The savings and loan scandal of the 1980s has been depicted in a myriad of
ways. To some, it is "the greatest ... scandal in American history" (Thomas,
1991: 30). To others it is the single greatest case of fraud in the history of
crime (Seattle Times, June 11, 1991). Some analysts see it as the natural
result of the ethos of greed promulgated by the Reagan administration (Simon
and Eitzen, 1993: 50). And to some it was a premeditated conspiracy to move
covert funds out of the country for use by the U.S. Intelligence Agency
(Bainerman, 1992: 275). All of these depictions of the S & L scandal contain
elements of truth. But to a large degree, the savings and loan scandal was
simply business as usual. What was unusual about it was not that it happened,
or who was involved, but that it was so blatant and coarse a criminal act that
exposure became inevitable. But with its exposure, three basic but usually
ignored "truths" about organized crime were once again demonstrated with
startlingly clarity:
There is precious little difference between those people who society designates
as respectable and law abiding and those people society castigates as hoodlums
and thugs.
The world of corporate finance and corporate capital is as criminogenic and
probably more criminogenic than any poverty-wracked slum neighborhood.
The distinctions drawn between business, politics, and organized crime are at
best artificial and in reality irrelevant. Rather than being dysfunctions,
corporate crime, white-collar crime, organized crime, and political corruption
are mainstays of American political-economic life.
It is not our intent to discuss the unethical and even illegal business
practices of the failed savings and loans and their governmental collaborators.
The outlandish salaries paid by S & L executives to themselves, the subsidies
to the thrifts from Congress which rewarded incompetence and fraud, the
land "flips" which resulted in real estate being sold back and forth in an
endless "kiting" scheme, and the political manipulation designed to delay the
scandal until after the 1988 presidential elections are all immensely
interesting and important. But they are subjects for others' inquiries. Our
interest is in the savings and loans as living, breathing organisms that fused
criminal corporations, organized crime, and the CIA into a single entity that
served the interests of the political and economic elite in America. Let us
begin by quickly summarizing the most blatant examples of collaboration between
financial institutions, the mob, and the intelligence community.
First National Bank of Maryland: For two years, 1983-1985, the First National
Bank of Maryland was used by Associated Traders, a CIA proprietary company, to
make payments for covert operations. Associated traders used its accounts at
First National to supply $23 million in arms for covert operations in
Afghanistan, Angola, Chad, and Nicaragua (Bainerman, 1992; 276-277; Covert
Action 35, 1990).
The links between the First National Bank of Maryland and the CIA were exposed
in a lawsuit filed in Federal District Court by Robert Maxwell, a high-ranking
bank officer. Maxwell charged in that suit that he had been asked to commit
crimes on behalf of the CIA. Specifically, he charged that he was asked to
conceal Associated Traders' business activities, which by law he was required
to specify on all letters of credit. Maxwell alleged that he had been
physically threatened and forced to leave his job after asking that his
superiors supply him with a letter stating that the activities he was being
asked to engage in were legal. In responding to Maxwell's lawsuit, attorneys
for the bank state that "a relationship between First National and the CIA and
Associated Traders was classified information which could neither be confirmed
nor denied (Bainerman, 1992: 276-277; Washington Business Journal, February 5,
1990).
Palmer National Bank: The Washington, D.C.-based Palmer National Bank was
founded in 1983 on the basis of a $2.8 million loan from Herman K. Beebe to
Harvey D. McLean, Jr. McLean was a Shreveport Louisiana businessman who owned
Paris (Texas) Savings and Loan. Herman Beebe played a key role in the savings
and loan scandal. Houston Post reporter Pete Brewton linked Beebe to a dozen
failed S & L's, and Stephen Pizzo, Mary Fricker, and Paul Muolo, in their
investigation of the S & L fiasco, called Beebe's banks "potentially the most
powerful and corrupt banking network ever seen in the U.S." Altogether, Herman
Beebe controlled, directly or indirectly, at least 55 banks and 29 S & L's in
eight states. What is particularly interesting about Beebe's participation in
these banks and savings and loans is his unique background. Herman Beebe had
served nine months in federal prison for bank fraud and had impeccable
credentials as a financier for New Orleans-based organized crime figures,
including Vincent and Carlos Marcello (Bainerman, 1992: 277-278; Brewton, 1993:
170- 179).
Harvey McLean's partner in the Palmer National Bank was Stefan Halper. Halper
had served as George Bush's foreign policy director during the 1980
presidential primaries. During the general election campaign, Halper was in
charge of a highly secretive operations center, consisting of Halper and
several ex- CIA operatives who kept close tabs on Jimmy Carter's foreign policy
activities, particularly Carter's attempt to free U.S. hostages in Iran. Halper
was later linked both to the "Debategate" scandal, in which it is alleged that
Carter's briefing papers for his debates with Ronald Reagan were stolen, and
with "The October Surprise," in which it is alleged that representatives of the
Reagan campaign tried to thwart U.S. efforts to free the Iranian hostages until
after the presidential election. Halper also set up a legal defense fund for
Oliver North.
During the Iran-Contra Affair, Palmer National was the bank of record for the
National Endowment for the Preservation of Liberty, a front group run by Oliver
North and Carl "Spitz" Channell, which was used to send money and weapons to
the contras.
Indian Springs Bank: Another bank with clear connections to the CIA was the
Indian Springs Bank of Kansas City, Kansas (Bainerman, 1992: 279-280; Brewton,
1993: 197-200). The fourth largest stockholder in Indian Springs was Iranian
expatriate Farhad Azima, who was also the owner of an air charter company
called Global International Air. The Indian Springs bank had made several
unsecured loans to Global International Air, totaling $600,000 in violation of
the bank's $349,00 borrower limit. In 1983 Global International filed for
bankruptcy, and Indian Springs followed suit in 1984. The president of Indiana
Springs was killed in 1983 in a car fire that started in the vehicle's back
seat and was regarded by law enforcement officials as of suspicious origins.
Global International Air was part of Oliver North's logistical network which
shipped arms for the U.S. government on several occasions, including a shipment
of 23 tons of TOW missiles to Iran by Race Aviation, another company owned by
Azima. Pete Brewton, in his investigation of the Indian Springs bank collapse
was told that FBI had not followed up on Indian Springs because the CIA
informed them that Azima was "off limits" (Houston Post, February 8, 1990).
Similarly the assistant U.S. Attorney handling the Indian Springs investigation
was told to "back off from a key figure in the collapse because he had ties to
the CIA."
Azima did indeed have ties to the CIA. His relationship with the agency goes
back to the late 1970s when he supplied air and logistical support to EATSCO
(Egypti

Gość: diabeł connection to terrorism,organised crime,drugs1 IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 08.10.02, 21:32

People [are] programmed through Multiple Personality Disorder... Mind
controlled robots,..."
David Icke - The Biggest Secret

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THE U.S. GOVERNMENT - CIA CONNECTION
TO TERRORISM, ORGANISED CRIME,
AND THE GLOBAL DRUG RUNNING NETWORK

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GROUP AVAILABLE TO PROVE
SERIOUS GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION
A group of unrelated former government employees and assets of the CIA, DEA,
and other deep-cover operations (and the FAA), is available to provide
testimony and documentation proving the existence of serious government
misconduct, criminal and subversive activities, including decades of CIA drug
smuggling into the United States. The group has been assembled by a former
federal investigator.

(Most of these individuals have provided hundreds of hours of deposition-like
information and documents during the past 10 years to Rodney Stich,(1) a former
federal investigator, and author of Defrauding America, Unfriendly Skies,
Drugging America, and Disavow. Most of them were directly involved in covert
and unlawful activities under orders and direction of their CIA, DEA, and other
government handlers. A few were in responsible positions when they discovered
the crimes.)

The individual testimony of the members of the group can prove the existence of
such covert activities as:

CIA-DEA drug smuggling into the United States, including the participation of
officials in the National Security Council, the White House, the military, and
the aiding and abetting by officials in control of the U.S. Department of
Justice.

Widespread bankruptcy court corruption against individual Americans,
implicating federal judges, federal trustees, attorneys and law firms. Massive
looting of assets of those who naively exercise the statutory protections of
Chapter 11, and then have their life's assets criminally seized, looted, and
distributed among the participants. A multi-billion-dollar-a-year racketeering
enterprise.

CIA looting of savings and loans and other financial institutions.

Retaliating against government agents and others seeking to report the crimes,
to silence or discredit them, and thereby protect ongoing or prior criminal
and/or subversive activities.

Aiding and abetting these criminal activities through cover-up, obstruction of
justice, retaliation, by Justice Department employees, federal judges, Justices
of the U.S. Supreme Court, members of Congress, and much of the broadcast and
print media.

Long-standing CIA joint activities with organized crime, including drug sales
and drug-money laundering.

CIA-DEA drug activities that made possible the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103.

Criminal misconduct by FAA personnel, and cover-up by NTSB personnel, resulting
in a series of specific airline crashes.

Justice Department and CIA misconduct resulting in SAM missiles obtained by
terrorists, shortly before the TWA Flight 800 mishap.

Other corrupt activities involving high-level government officials.

(These criminal activities are described in the third edition of Defrauding
America, third edition of Unfriendly Skies, and the first edition of Disavow).

Source and group member # 1: (Rodney Stich)(2) (Former federal inspector-
investigator for the FAA, with years of continuous contacts with many former
CIA and other deep-cover operatives.)

His 30 years of seeking to expose government corruption, starting as an
insider, a government investigator, and his many deep-cover contacts, gives him
the ability to tie together the various criminal activities. His testimony and
documents would prove, among other things:

Corrupt and criminal activities associated with specific airline crashes. Hard-
core evidence, acquired initially as a federal inspector-investigator, related
to a number of specific airline crashes occurring in Stich's area of federal
inspector responsibility. Thousands of pages of documents support his charges.
Includes cover-up of the criminal activities by FAA, NTSB and Justice
Department officials. This misconduct continues to play a permissive and
contributing role in many airline crashes continuing to occur.

Decades of CIA drug trafficking into the United States. As an airline pilot in
the 1950s, he learned from other pilots in Tokyo and Beirut that they were
flying drugs for CIA-related activities. From approximately 1987 Stich learned
from his many former CIA and other deep-cover sources. This group includes
pilots who flew the drugs, people who had mid-level responsibilities in various
areas of the drug activities, people who arranged for drug-money laundering
through CIA bank facilities. These assets have provided Stich with affidavits,
hundreds of documents, letters, detailing the criminal and subversive
activities involving high-level government personnel.

Personal knowledge of judicial looting of bankruptcy court assets, augmented by
information from his CIA sources.

Criminal cover-up and obstruction of justice by high-level government and non-
government personnel. Stich details in his books the high-level cover-up and
obstruction of justice by federal judges, Justice Department officials, much of
the establishment media. These are criminal acts under federal law, and
permitted to continue great harm upon the United States and most of its people.

Felony retaliation by federal judges and Justice Department employees, seeking
to silence his reporting of criminal misconduct related to a series of airline
crashes, his attempts to expose the CIA and other links to drug smuggling,
silence his exposure of judicial corruption, among others. This retaliation is
proven by judicial records.

Other criminal activities involving CIA, Justice Department employees, federal
judges, and members of Congress.

Stich's evidence proving the existence of these crimes includes:

Hundreds of FAA reports and a 4000-page transcript of a hearing that he forced
upon the FAA, during which he acted as a form of independent prosecutor. The
evidence and testimony proved the relationship between criminal misconduct and
a series of fraud-related and specific airline crashes, which continued to
occur during the hearing, and for years afterwards.

Federal actions(3) filed by Stich seeking to report the criminal activities
that he discovered, including the federal offenses associated with the airline
crashes and then seeking to report the criminal activities implicating federal
officials and those acting in their behalf (standard disavow tactics). The
attempt to report federal crimes to a federal judge is provided, and required,
under federal criminal statute, Title 18 USC Section 4.(4)

Thousands of sequestered government documents that he obtained while a federal
investigator, judicial records, and obtained from his many CIA and other deep-
cover sources.

Over 1,000 hours of statements concerning drug smuggling and other criminal
activities made to Stich during the past ten years by his many CIA and other
deep-cover sources, often in deposition-like settings, and sworn affidavits.
Many of these information exchanges were in deposition-like sessions. Some of
these depositions were filed into federal criminal actions.

Testimony that Stich can provide as to what he discovered during his official
government duties and then as a private investigator who became a focal point
for many former CIA and other deep-cover operatives.

The detailed and documented books written by Stich, including the third edition
of Unfriendly Skies, second edition of Defrauding America, and first edition of
Disavow. These books tie together the massive amount of documents and evidence
presenting prima facie evidence of these

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These books tie together the massive amount of documents and evidence
presenting prima facie evidence of these criminal activities. These books have
received excellent book reviews from sophisticated reviewers and people
involved in covert agency activities. They were written for the sole purpose of
circumventing the criminal obstruction of justice by virtually every government
and non-government check and balance.
Source # 2: (CIA-ONI operative from the 1960s through 1980s, in mid to high-
level covert activities, in various areas of covert activities).(5) His
testimony would reveal, among other things:

Pattern of CIA-directed and condoned assassinations.

CIA drug trafficking from the Middle and Far East, the Caribbean and Central
and South America, including the Los Angeles area, and aspects of the drugging
of the blacks not previously revealed (such as funding CIA drug purchases from
assets looted in bankruptcy court); joint activities with organized crime
figures in drug smuggling and looting of savings and loans.

Judicial looting of bankruptcy court assets. Some of the looted funds were used
to fund CIA drug purchases. These criminal activities involve federal judges,
Justice Department trustees and other government employees, law firms and
attorneys.

Involvement in October Surprise scheme, that corrupted the 1980 presidential
elections.

Bribing of federal judges, and how they receive their bribe funds.

CIA role in setting up the Medellin and Cali cartels, making it easier for the
CIA to coordinate drug sales.

Evidence. In addition to his own testimony, dozens of letters and hundred of
taped deposition-like sessions are available as he described these covert
activities.

Source # 3: Former U.S. Army helicopter pilot, sheep-dipped to Central
Intelligence Agency.(6) His testimony and documents would reveal, among other
things:

Personal knowledge of CIA, National Security Council and White House-directed
drug shipments on military and CIA helicopters, the cooperation of the military
in the drugging of America, and involvement of well-known national figures.

Personal knowledge of high-level involvement in drug-related activities. He
carried on his helicopter trips such well-known figures as Oliver North, Dan
Lasater, Buddy Young, William Barr (while attorney for Southern Air Transport
and before he became US attorney general), Buddy Young (aide to Governor Bill
Clinton), Felix Rodriguez (responsible to George Bush), to drug-related
activities. These include inspection of drug laboratories, and once to a
meeting with General Noriega and Barry Seal (the purpose of which was to
discover where the drug money was being siphoned off on the Panama to Arkansas
route).

Drugs to Arkansas. He flew drugs on US Army helicopters to Little Rock and Mena
from Fort Campbell, Kentucky, including delivery to Dan Lasater and Buddy Young.

Military flight plans showing passengers and comments relating to drugs being
carried. This witness has a great number of military flight plans showing his
flights, who his passengers were, with comments on the flight plans showing
carriage of drugs in coolers fraudulently marked "medical supplies." These
flight plans included drug-carrying flights from Fort Campbell, Kentucky to
Little Rock and Mena, Arkansas, delivering "medical supplies" in coolers to
a "Doctor" Lasater (aka Dan Lasater) and Buddy Young (head of security for then-
governor Bill Clinton).

Supporting evidence includes military flight plans, letters, affidavits, court
filings, and tapes.

Source # 4:(7) (Head of a CIA proprietary airline for 16 years, carrying drugs
for the CIA). Testimony and evidence would reveal, among other things:

Extensive knowledge of CIA drug smuggling into the United States from the Far
East, as a result of being the titular head of a CIA proprietary airline that
frequently carried drugs. Details of interaction with other CIA proprietary or
front-airlines, including Southern Air Transport and Evergreen Airlines. The
airline was CIA funded and equipped, and was based in Bangkok, with an office
in Miami. Activities included hauling drugs from the Far East to the
Philippines, where the drugs would be off-loaded onto other CIA proprietary
airlines, such as Southern Air Transport. Later, when four-engine aircraft were
provided, the drug-loaded planes went directly to the United States.

Supporting evidence would be testimony, from letters written by the source,
tapes of his deposition-like statements, affidavits (filed in federal court
proceedings) available, airline registration certificate and bill of sale
certificates conveying ownership of C-130 aircraft to his airline.

CIA supplying arms to IRA.

Source # 5:(8) (Former pilot working with the Drug Enforcement Administration
in Central and South America and the United States.) His testimony would
reveal, among other things:

Arms being shipped by DEA and CIA to Contras and Sandinistas, in violation of
U.S. law, and showing the false premise used by U.S. officials that they were
supporting only one side, the Contras, allegedly to combat the country from
selecting the communistic form of government. He flew the arms, provided by the
DEA, in DEA-provided aircraft, and returned with drugs, off-loading at DEA
facilities.

Arms exchanged for drugs, and hauling of drugs back to the United States,
including unloading of drugs at DEA facilities at Addison Airport and
elsewhere. Can provide precise details, maps, about the drug routes, landing
strips, DEA and CIA contacts at each end, and how arms were sent to both the
Contras and the Sandinistas.

Source # 6:(9) (Former CIA asset specializing in CIA money laundering,
primarily in the Caribbean). His testimony would reveal, among other things:

CIA money laundering in Caribbean area, and CIA association with several well-
known criminals.

He is described in Defrauding America.

Source # 7:(10) (Former OSS operative and pilot during World War II; CIA
operative in Central and South America and the Far East. He was the pilot for
United Nations' Dag Hammarskjold and the Shah of Iran. His testimony would
reveal, among other things:

CIA drug trafficking from the Middle East, Central and South America, and the
Far East. He flew drug loads for his CIA contacts, including allegedly Theodore
Shackley.

Assassinations that he allegedly carried out in South America for the CIA.

Source # 8:(11) (Former CIA-ONI, Navy Seal). His testimony would reveal, among
other things:

CIA-ordered assassinations. One being an alleged operation to assassinate
presidential candidate Bill Clinton at San Francisco in 1980.

Drug smuggling activities by the CIA.

Source # 9:(12) (Former head of a CIA financial proprietary in Hawaii). His
testimony would reveal, among other things:

Secret funding of CIA domestic operations. Familiar with CIA financial
operations, including how CIA fronts are secretly funded.

CIA assisting Ferdinand Marcus with hiding stolen funds in the United States
while U.S. Department of Justice was seeking these funds.

Opening and funding secret off-shore bank accounts for high-level U.S.
officials. Familiar with how CIA funnels money to CIA proprietaries, how CIA
opened and funded secret off-shore bank accounts for high-level federal
officials.

Typical example of CIA disavow tactics, fraudulently denying involvement in
operations which they fund and direct.

Source # 10:(13) (CIA operative in Europe and the United States in the 1970s
and 1980s). His testimony would reveal, among others:

CIA drug-related dealings with organized crime in the United States. Involved
directly in drug transfer between CIA and organized crime, including the Gotti
crime family, and using CIA bank facilities to launder organized c
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  CIA drug-related dealings with organized crime in the United States. Involved
  directly in drug transfer between CIA and organized crime, including the Gotti
  crime family, and using CIA bank facilities to launder organized crime's drug
  money into offshore bank accounts.
  
  October Surprise. Involved in October Surprise scheme.
  
  Involved in CIA money laundering. Did money laundering for the CIA, and
  laundered drug money for the Gotti crime family, using CIA bank sources.
  
  Believed to be involved in CIA looting of financial institutions.
  
  Gave congressional testimony about drugs, drug-money laundering, etc. Testified
  about these activities to Congress in 1989. Transcript available. Congress, as
  usual, covered up.
  
  Source # 11:(14) (CIA operative in Europe and the United States in 1970s and
  1980s): His testimony would reveal:
  
  Former CIA operative who worked with source number 9,
  
  Involved in CIA-related activities with savings and loans and other financial
  institutions.
  
  Source # 12:(15) (CIA operative in Europe during 1960s, 1970, 1980s): His
  testimony would reveal, among others:
  
  Involvement in October Surprise clean-up operations, removing all records
  relating to the secret meetings in Paris with George Bush and other U.S.
  personnel.
  
  Involvement in other CIA covert activities that were criminal in nature.
  
  Source # 13:(16) (former CIA asset.) His testimony would reveal, among others:
  
  Involved in money laundering associated with October Surprise, moving money for
  bribing Iranians.
  
  Altering the Inslaw software stolen by Justice Department officials and a
  subsequent federal judge.
  
  Movement of drug money for the CIA.
  
  Source # 14:(17) (Former CIA-ONI asset). His testimony would reveal, among
  others:
  
  CIA drug activities and drug-money laundering.
  
  Source # 15:(18) (member of former army Special Operations Group). His
  testimony would reveal, among others:
  
  Military's involvement in drug trafficking, setting up radio beacons for small
  aircraft to navigate from Colombia to Panama at very low levels.
  
  CIA-military spying on state-level politicians.
  
  Source # 16:(19) (trained small-plane contra pilots in Arkansas, worked with
  NSC Oliver North and William Barr). His testimony would reveal, among others:
  
  Drug smuggling into the United States by the National Security Council and
  particularly Oliver North.
  
  Involvement of high-level federal officials (including Oliver North, William
  Barr (before being appointed U.S. Attorney General over the Justice Department.
  
  Involvement of government personnel in Arkansas, including Bill Clinton.
  
  Source # 17:(20) (ONI asset, working on offshore oil rigs.) His testimony would
  reveal:
  
  Drugs being off-loaded at oil rigs, and then sent by helicopter or boat to
  shore.
  
  Knowledge about then-governor Bill Clinton's Arkansas drug activities.
  
  CIA drug smuggling into the United States.
  
  Source # 18:(21) (Former captain for major airline on routes from United States
  to Central and South America). His testimony would reveal:
  
  Drugs and drug-money being shipped regularly on scheduled airline flights to
  Central and South America and return. Witnessed pallets of drugs being loaded
  on his aircraft on the northbound flights, and pallets of money being shipped
  southward to Central and South America.
  
  Testified to Congress (as with other deep-cover sources, his information about
  drug trafficking was covered up.)
  
  Source # 19:(22) (former CID investigator, extensive investigative experience
  in private, federal and for foreign countries). His testimony would reveal,
  among others:
  
  CIA drug trafficking involving the CIA and other government entities.
  
  Source # 20:(23) (private investigator, heavy on HUD and CIA misconduct in
  Denver area, and former son-in-law of key participant in various corrupt
  activities): His testimony would reveal, among others:
  
  Corruption involving HUD, savings and loan, drug activities, and CIA
  involvement, primarily in the Denver area.
  
  Source # 21:(24) (former CIA operative heavily involved in drug-related
  activities). He has testified to Congress in the past, and given information to
  the media, about drug smuggling involving the CIA, NSC, and White House
  personnel. His testimony would reveal, among others:
  
  Drug smuggling activities by the CIA and National Security Council, among
  others.
  
  Source # 22:(25) (attorney residing in Washington, DC, who worked closely with
  Stich and source # 2). His testimony would reveal, among others:
  
  CIA drug trafficking, October Surprise, Inslaw, and other crimes.
  
  Found dead under mysterious circumstances. The files on the hard drive of his
  computer were erased, his computer floppy disks were taken, as were his 55
  audio tapes and their transcripts of information given by source # 2.
  
  Source # 23:(26) (attorney residing in San Francisco, exchanging information
  with Stich). His testimony would reveal, among others:
  
  Massive corruption in bankruptcy courts in San Francisco, implicating federal
  judges, Justice Department officials, attorneys and law firms, and the CIA,
  looting the assets of innocent people who naively exercised the statutory
  protections of Chapter 11.
  
  Killed the night before the FBI was to receive his evidence. File on his
  computer hard drive were erased and his floppy disks and records taken from his
  office.
  
  Source # 24:(27) (Former DIA operative, who worked with DEA in the Middle
  East). His testimony would reveal, among others:
  
  CIA-DEA drug smuggling from the Middle East, in conjunction with Lebanese and
  Syrian drug traffickers, using civilian airliners for the drug-smuggling
  pipeline. His testimony would help to show how the bomb was placed on Pan Am
  103; would show the Justice Department cover-up and obstruction of justice
  (among other criminal offenses); would show the misuse of federal power and
  sources to criminally retaliate against those who expose government misconduct.
  
  Source # 25:(28) (Former DEA agent). His testimony would reveal:
  
  The repeated actions of Justice Department officials who blocked prosecution of
  CIA-DEA-related drug trafficking into the United States.
  
  Source # 26:(29) (Management in steel mill) His testimony would reveal:
  
  CIA involvement in sending aircraft fraudulently sold as junk to foreign
  governments.
  
  Source # 27:(30) (Head of an all-black assassination team).His testimony would
  reveal:
  
  CIA operation in Indochina, commenced about five years before the start of the
  Vietnam War, with instructions to destabilize the region, assassinating whoever
  they came in contact with, including American advisors and military personnel.
  This mindset coincides with the School of the Americas and other assassination
  activities directed by the CIA.
  
  Documents would reveal orders for him to extract if possible, or to kill if
  necessary, American POWs; and subsequent documents reveal the assassination of
  the America POWs, showing involvement of the White House, CIA, Marine Corps,
  among others.
  
  Source # 28:(31) (Former DEA agent). His testimony would reveal:
  
  The repeated actions of Justice Department personnel blocking prosecution of
  CIA-DEA related drug trafficking into the United States.
  
  Source # 29:(32) (former IRS investigator). His testimony would reveal:
  
  CIA-DEA drug trafficking at Mena Airport and other locations.
  
  Obstruction of justice by Justice Department employees and then-Governor Bill
  Clinton.
  
  Drug-money laundering activities involving the CIA.
  
  Source # 30:(33) (former FBI Special Agent). His testimony would reveal:
  
  CIA-DEA drug trafficking reported by FBI Special Agents.
  
  High level government misconduct in Irangate; Iraqgate; known to the FBI years
  before these corrupt acts were known to the media.
  
  C
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    Source # 30:(33) (former FBI Special Agent). His testimony would reveal:
    
    CIA-DEA drug trafficking reported by FBI Special Agents.
    
    High level government misconduct in Irangate; Iraqgate; known to the FBI years
    before these corrupt acts were known to the media.
    
    Cover-up by the FBI of these criminal and treasonous acts against the United
    States.
    
    High level threats to agents not to report such offenses.
    
    False charges and retaliation against FBI Special Agent to silence and
    discredit these disclosures.
    
    Source # 31:(34) (daughter of former organized crime figure and CIA paymaster).
    Her testimony would reveal:
    
    Close connections between organized crime families and the CIA in drug
    trafficking.
    
    Money distribution between organized crime families and the CIA.
    
    CIA use of organized crime to commit assassinations in the United States.
    
    Other CIA-organized crime relationships.
    
    Source # 32:(35) former agent of the IRS. His testimony would reveal the
    evidence of intensive drug trafficking that he discovered in Arkansas, as part
    of his official duties. His testimony would also reveal the obstruction of
    justice by Justice Department employees.
    
    Source # 33:(36) investigator for the State of Arkansas. His testimony would
    reveal the evidence of intensive drug trafficking in Arkansas that he
    discovered as part of his official duties, and the cover-up by state and
    federal law enforcement personnel.
    
    Source # 34:(37) law enforcement agent with the New York City police
    department. His testimony would reveal evidence of drug trafficking into the
    United States involving Dominican Republic drug traffickers, working with the
    CIA, and protected by state and federal officials.
    
    Source # 35:(38) former chief of Narcotics, INS office, in New York. He can
    testify about CIA involvement with drug trafficking, support of and protection
    of terrorist activities in the United States, repeated blocking of exposure and
    prosecution of these crimes against the American people. He is also another
    example of Justice Department retaliation against a federal employee after the
    employee exposed high-level government crimes.
    
    Source # 36(39): narcotic agent with the Pennsylvania attorney general's
    office: He and a group of other agents discovered Dominican Republic drug
    traffickers working with the CIA and protected by state and federal officials.
    
    ENDNOTES
    
    1. Rodney Stich; FAX 925-295-1203; e-mail stich@defraudingamerica.com.
    
    2. Source number 1 is Rodney Stich, a former federal inspector-investigator and
    then a private investigator.
    
    3. Stich v. United States, et al., 554 F.2d 1070 (9th Cir.) (table), cert.
    denied, 434 U.S. 920 (1977)(addressed hard-core air safety misconduct,
    violations of federal air safety laws, threats against government inspectors
    not to report safety violations and misconduct); Stich v. National
    Transportation Safety Board, 685 F.2d 446 (9th Cir.)(table), cert. denied, 459
    U.S. 861 (1982))(addressed repeated criminal falsification of official airline
    accident reports, omitting highly sensitive air safety misconduct, making
    possible repeated crashes from the same sequestered problems); Amicus curiae
    brief filed on July 17, 1975, in the Paris DC-10 multi-district litigation,
    Flanagan v. McDonnell Douglas Corporation and United States of America, Civil
    Action 74-808-PH, MDL 172, Central District California.) (addressing the long
    standing FAA misconduct, of which the cover-up of the DC-10 cargo door problem
    was one of repeated instances of tragedy related misconduct); Filed in U.S.
    District Court, District of Columbia: Stich v. Kennedy, et al, No. C 89-0170
    SS; Stich v. Department of Justice, et al, No. C 86-2523; Stich v. Department
    of Justice, et al, No. 87-2214; Filed in U.S. District Court, Reno: Stich v.
    Cranston, et al, No. C 89-85 ECR; Filed in U.S. District Court, Sacramento:
    Stich v. Schwartz, et al, No. C 86-0210; S.D. N.Y. Nos. 90-CIV 3164, 90 CIV
    4957, 91 CIV 5118, 81 CIV 4958; District Columbia, No. 91 CIV 1242, Court of
    Appeals 91-5234.
    
    4. Title 18 U.S.C. § 4 (misprision of felony). "Whoever, having knowledge of
    the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States,
    conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or
    other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be
    fined not more than $500 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both."
    
    Summary Of Criminal and Subversive Activities Against the United States That
    Would Be Revealed By the Testimony Of These Sources
    
    The testimony of these insider sources, many of whom were federal agents
    authorized by law to make the determination of criminal activities that they
    sought to report, would disclose, among other offenses, the following crimes
    impacting on the nation's security:
    
    Years of drug trafficking into the United States by the CIA, later assisted by
    the DEA and the military.
    
    Close working relationship between organized crime and the CIA, inflicting
    great harm upon the United States and the American people.
    
    Aiding and abetting of these acts through cover-ups and obstruction of justice
    by other federal offices, including:
    
    The U.S. Department of Justice and its various divisions, including the FBI.
    
    State Department, National Security Council, members of Congress, federal
    judges, justices of the U.S. Supreme Court, among others.
    
    Most of the broadcast and print media.
    
    CIA involvement in looting the savings and loans and other financial fraud.
    
    Washington-ordered assassination of American POWs.
    
    Pattern of obstruction of justice by people in control of the U.S. Department
    of Justice, and the misuse of federal power and federal offices to retaliate
    against and to silence those seeking to expose these crimes.
    
    Criminal retaliation against government agents to block the reporting of these
    and related crimes. Implicates Justice Department personnel, federal judges and
    Justices, and others.
    
    Partial List Of People and Government Entities Who Were or Are Criminally
    Involved
    
    This is a partial list of people and government entities who are or were
    criminally involved, either through direct criminal acts or through criminal
    cover-ups, obstruction of justice, or retaliating against those seeking to
    report the criminal activities.
    
    Many people in the CIA and the Central Intelligence Agency itself.
    
    Many people in the various divisions of the U.S. Department of Justice.
    
    Judges and Supreme Court Justices, who are identified in numerous court filings
    and other documents with repeated obstruction of justice, repeated cover-ups,
    repeated retaliation against government agents and others who sought to report
    these crimes against the United States and its people.
    
    People employed by the FAA, NTSB, State Department, National Security Council,
    members of Congress, and other government agencies who knew of these crimes and
    participated in their cover-ups.
    
    Much of the broadcast and print media, who engaged in repeated cover-ups and
    obstruction of justice, acts that are crimes under federal criminal statutes.
    
    Virtually every government check and balance is implicated throughout the past
    30 years of documented government corruption, and most of the media.
    
    The system is so thoroughly corrupted by placement of corrupt people in key
    positions, that it is incredibly difficult to now investigate and prosecute
    itself.
    
    Others Who Would Probably Testify
    
    The above list does not contain the names of many former CIA and other deep-
    cover sources who had briefly contacted me with information, or the many
    airline pilots with whom I associated for the past 45 years who flew drugs for
    the CIA. The list also does not name the many other people, some of

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Diabel, gratuluje znajomosci historii. Twoj post potwierdza fakt, ze USA sa od
kilkudziesieciu lat w stanie wojny z calym swiatem.

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Gość portalu: Pankracy napisał(a):

> Diabel, gratuluje znajomosci historii. Twoj post potwierdza fakt, ze USA sa
od
> kilkudziesieciu lat w stanie wojny z calym swiatem.

Nie jestem historykiem, ale różne materiały można znalezć w internecie. Jak je
złozyć w całość powstaje pełniejszy obraz. Poza tym uważam, że należy znać
działalność jedynego obecnie mocarstwa na świecie.
A zwłaszcz trzeba znać ciemne strony historii USA , w tym także współczesnej,
by zrozumieć to co się dzieje na naszych oczach.
Odnośnie wojny, to z pewnością nie z całym światem. Natomiast napewno od 10 lat
z Irakiem, którego połowa terytorium jest z przerwami bombardowana.
Jak można zaatakować kraj, z którym prowadzi sie wojnę od 10 lat ?
Kiedyś z takich paradoksów znany był Związek RAdziecki.....

Gość: czapski towarzysz trockie wiecznie zywy ...... IP: 195.205.63.* 10.10.02, 20:30

Najbardziej mnie rozsmieszyl mnie ten fragment o Brutalnej interwencji w Korei-
zobacz w jakiej to szczesliwosci zyja bracia z polnocy ktorzy nie zaznali
dominacji amerykanskiej

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Gość portalu: czapski napisał(a):

> Najbardziej mnie rozsmieszyl mnie ten fragment o Brutalnej interwencji w
Korei-
> zobacz w jakiej to szczesliwosci zyja bracia z polnocy ktorzy nie zaznali
> dominacji amerykanskiej

Braciom z Pólnocy akurat od dawna by sie przydała interwencja!
To jedyny kraj na świecie gdzie występuje na taka skale kannibalizm!
Mieso ludzkie można kuppić na targu. Panuje powszechny głod!
W Polskiej TV pokazywano niedawno film domumentalny , kręcony w Korei Płn.
z ukrytej kamery. KOSZMAR.

Jednak nikt jakoś nie chce interweniować i zmieniać tego ludobójczego reżimu.

USA wysyła im pomoc żywnościową, która akurat zaspokaja zapotrzebowanie
wygłodniałej armii. Do zwykłych głodujacych ludzi nie trafia nic.
- Gość: czapski Re: towarzysz trockie wiecznie zywy ...... IP: 195.205.63.* 10.10.02, 22:38
  
  A czy to wina amerykanskiej armii, ze cala pomoc trafia do koreanskich
  czlonkow partii albo wojskowych? Czy to moze raczej wina funkcjonowania
  ustroju "alternatywnego do kapitalistycznego", co wydaje sie byc mile? A co do
  interwnecji w KRLD to moze byc to blizsze niz ci sie wydaje, bo ten kraj byl
  obok Iraku i Iranu w slynnej osi zla Busha
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    Gość portalu: czapski napisał(a):
    
    > A czy to wina amerykanskiej armii, ze cala pomoc trafia do koreanskich
    > czlonkow partii albo wojskowych?
    
    Tak. Bo Ci co ją daja doskonale wiedzą gdzie trafia !
    Poza tym to nie amerykańska armia tylko rzad USA udziela reżimowi pomocy
    humanitarnej!
    
    Czy to moze raczej wina funkcjonowania
    > ustroju "alternatywnego do kapitalistycznego", co wydaje sie byc mile?
    
    Ten ustrój nie jest alternatywny do jakiegokolwiek.
    Ustrojów alternatywnych do kapitalistycznego już nie ma.
    Wyjatki typu Kuba czy Korea Płd, nie maja znaczenia.
    
    A co do
    > interwnecji w KRLD to moze byc to blizsze niz ci sie wydaje, bo ten kraj byl
    > obok Iraku i Iranu w slynnej osi zla Busha
    
    Narazie "wspierają" reżim, pod rzadami którego ludzie zjadaja sie nawzajem.
    Ale cóż, ropy tam nie ma, wiec żaden interes interweniować.
    
    PS> Zobaczymy czy sie doczekam>
    - Gość: Marcin Re: towarzysz trockie wiecznie zywy ...... IP: *.SBI.COM 11.10.02, 00:32
      
      Wszyscy rozemocjonowani krytycy US sa bardzo niekonsekwentni - krytykuja US za
      brak pomocy finansowej/gospodarczej dle Iraku i parcie do wojny, a zaraz
      zarzucaja czynienie tego samego w Korei, etc.
      I tak zle i tak nie dobrze.
      
      Cale szczescie ze mamy republikanina w WH ktory chce cos wreszcie zrobic dla
      Ameryki. Ogladanie sie na Europe to jak zabawa z rozkapryszonym dzieckiem ktore
      nigdy nie ma jednego zdania.
      Ale za to jacy wszyscy w Europie yntelygentni... Szkoda tylko ze jak tu cena
      benzyny skoczy o 10 centow to w Polsce 20% nie stac na paliwo, i jak tu liczba
      bezrobotnych wzrosnie do 7% to w Polsce 'tylko' jest 22%...
      
      Idealy-moraly, piekne slowka, a pracowac nie ma komu. Tak wlasnie prezentuje
      sie Europa.
      
      Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
      
      > Gość portalu: czapski napisał(a):
      >
      > > A czy to wina amerykanskiej armii, ze cala pomoc trafia do koreanskich
      > > czlonkow partii albo wojskowych?
      >
      > Tak. Bo Ci co ją daja doskonale wiedzą gdzie trafia !
      > Poza tym to nie amerykańska armia tylko rzad USA udziela reżimowi pomocy
      > humanitarnej!
      >
      >
      > Czy to moze raczej wina funkcjonowania
      > > ustroju "alternatywnego do kapitalistycznego", co wydaje sie byc mile?
      >
      > Ten ustrój nie jest alternatywny do jakiegokolwiek.
      > Ustrojów alternatywnych do kapitalistycznego już nie ma.
      > Wyjatki typu Kuba czy Korea Płd, nie maja znaczenia.
      >
      >
      >
      > A co do
      > > interwnecji w KRLD to moze byc to blizsze niz ci sie wydaje, bo ten kraj b
      > yl
      > > obok Iraku i Iranu w slynnej osi zla Busha
      >
      > Narazie "wspierają" reżim, pod rzadami którego ludzie zjadaja sie nawzajem.
      > Ale cóż, ropy tam nie ma, wiec żaden interes interweniować.
      >
      > PS> Zobaczymy czy sie doczekam>
- Gość: Marcin Re: towarzysz trockie wiecznie zywy ...... IP: *.SBI.COM 11.10.02, 00:25
  
  Moze to jest wlasnie pole do popisu dla tej tak bardzo przecie milujacej i
  moralnej Europu! Ale chyba niestety sie nie doczekamy.
  Latwiej krytykowac czyjes czyny niz cos zrobic. Nie robac nic, jak Europa,
  latwiej uniknac krytyki - ale za to ile jest czasu na moralne spiewy krtyki na
  internecie.
  Europa nigdy nie wydorosleje. Zawsze ktos cos im musi dac, ale od razu jest BE.
  Sami to sie tylko potrafia rozkraczyc i narzekac.
  
  Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
  
  > Gość portalu: czapski napisał(a):
  >
  > > Najbardziej mnie rozsmieszyl mnie ten fragment o Brutalnej interwencji w
  > Korei-
  > > zobacz w jakiej to szczesliwosci zyja bracia z polnocy ktorzy nie zaznali
  >
  > > dominacji amerykanskiej
  >
  > Braciom z Pólnocy akurat od dawna by sie przydała interwencja!
  > To jedyny kraj na świecie gdzie występuje na taka skale kannibalizm!
  > Mieso ludzkie można kuppić na targu. Panuje powszechny głod!
  > W Polskiej TV pokazywano niedawno film domumentalny , kręcony w Korei Płn.
  > z ukrytej kamery. KOSZMAR.
  >
  > Jednak nikt jakoś nie chce interweniować i zmieniać tego ludobójczego reżimu.
  >
  > USA wysyła im pomoc żywnościową, która akurat zaspokaja zapotrzebowanie
  > wygłodniałej armii. Do zwykłych głodujacych ludzi nie trafia nic.
  - Gość: diabeł USA milczy i popiera ludobójstwa 1 IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 11.10.02, 11:49
    
    Gość portalu: Marcin napisał(a):
    
    ) Moze to jest wlasnie pole do popisu dla tej tak bardzo przecie milujacej i
    ) moralnej Europu! Ale chyba niestety sie nie doczekamy.
    ) Latwiej krytykowac czyjes czyny niz cos zrobic. Nie robac nic, jak Europa,
    ) latwiej uniknac krytyki - ale za to ile jest czasu na moralne spiewy krtyki
    na internecie.
    
    A co robi USA w sprawach skrajnego ludobójstwa w wielu krajach ?
    milczy i popiera ludobójców! czy dają ultimatum np.Rosji by zaprzestali
    swoich zbrodni ? nic podobnego, teraz USA ma inne interesy.....
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    KRYSTYNA KURCZAB-REDLICH: Korespondencja z Czeczenii
    http://dzisiaj.dziennik.krakow.pl/redirect/?link=Magazyn/01/01.html
    Czeczenki już nie płaczą
    
    Likwidacja młodych mężczyzn to główny cel operacji antyterrorystycznej w
    Czeczenii. Masowo uprowadzani w czasie zaczystek, giną gdzieś w kazamatach
    komendantur rosyjskiego MSW, FSB, GRU.
    
    9 września 2002 r. pod Garagorskiem na granicy Czeczenii i Inguszetii
    znaleziono zwłoki 15 rozebranych do naga mężczyzn ze śladami tortur. Na głowach
    mieli zaciśnięte nylonowe worki. Szeroko otwarte usta dowodziły, że się dusili.
    W całej republice takie zbiorowe mogiły odkrywane są niemal codziennie.
    Nieopodal willi generałów w Chankale, gdzie mieści się sztab wojsk
    rosyjskich w Czeczenii, w styczniu znaleziono 53 ciała z wyłupionymi oczami,
    oskalpowanymi czaszkami, bez uszu, z połamanymi rękami i nogami. Wszystko to
    dzieje się przy wtórze zapewnień prezydenta Rosji Władimira Putina o
    normalizacji sytuacji w Czeczenii i zakończeniu operacji antyterrorystycznej.
    
    Zarina mówi: - Jutro jedziemy do Groznego. Ucieszyłam się bardziej czy
    przestraszyłam? Cztery lata temu dziennikarzom świata i Rosji powiedziano:
    STOP - wjazd do Czeczenii możliwy tylko za zezwoleniem Kremla, czyli
    niemożliwy, jeśli chcesz mówić prawdę. Andriej Babicki - korespondent
    amerykańskiego Radia Swoboda - chciał. Bito go więc w Czernokozowie, w
    najcięższym wówczas, na początku 2000 r., obozie tortur. Przykład poskutkował:
    opuszczona przez kamery telewizyjne Czeczenia kona w osamotnieniu. Bo kto nie
    umiera na ekranie, ten - dla świata - nie umiera wcale.
    
    Chciałam jednak zobaczyć Grozny. Na własne oczy sprawdzić, czy miasto martwe
    już w 1997 r., kiedy je fotografowałam - mogło umrzeć jeszcze bardziej. I czy
    kobiety, które po pierwszej pacyfikacji Czeczenii w latach 1994-1996 zwanej
    wprowadzaniem porządku konstytucyjnego mówiły, że wylały już wszystkie łzy,
    mogą jeszcze płakać.
    
    ***
    
    Granica ingusko-czeczeńska. Znak STOP. Za nim na białym tle czarne litery:
    Kierowco. Zatrzymaj samochód. Wyłącz silnik. Otwórz bagażnik. Przygotuj
    dokumenty do kontroli. I następny napis: Strzelamy bez ostrzeżenia. Betonowe
    bloki i zwoje drutu kolczastego niemal zagradzają drogę. Dalej ufortyfikowana
    buda, worki z piaskiem, spomiędzy których widać tylko lufy automatów. Nad budą
    rosyjski trójkolor biało-czerwono-niebieski smętnie zwisa we wrześniowym upale.
    Żołnierze uzbrojeni po zęby, chyba z dwunastu. Przejeżdżamy przez posterunek
    wojskowy.
    
    Samochód kluczy zygzakiem między blokami. Staje. Zbliża się żołnierz.
    Kierowca wychodzi. Oddaje dokumenty. Idą w kierunku bagażnika. Pod osłoną
    podniesionej klapy może zdarzyć się wszystko. Jeśli kierowca nie spodoba się
    żołnierzowi albo w dokumenty włożył nie tyle pieniędzy, ile przewiduje ustalona
    na posterunkach stawka (minimum 50 rubli, czyli ok. 2 dolarów, co dla ludzi
    pozbawionych od lat pracy stanowi poważną sumę), to żołnierz wrzuci do
    bagażnika granat albo naboje i powie kierowcy, że jest czeczeńskim bojownikiem.
    A to oznacza śmierć po najstraszliwszych torturach. Więc kierowca odda
    wszystko, co ma, żeby żołnierz zabrał te dowody winy. Czasem zabiera.
    
    Może się też zdarzyć, że bardziej naćpany i pijany niż zwykle, z pijaną i
    naćpaną resztą - zechce się zabawić z kierowcą i pasażerami. Jesienią 2001 r.
    15-letniemu Sulejmanowi Magomedowi wsunięto do przełyku żywą żmiję. Chłopiec
    konał, a ona zwijała się w jego żołądku. 70-letnią kobietę przez kilka dni i
    nocy gwałcono, aż przestała się ruszać. Na wpół martwą zastąpiły dwie młode
    Czeczenki wrzucone do - znajdującej się na każdym posterunku - celi.
    
    Rozparta na krześle, wystawiając twarz do słońca, siedzi kobieta. Automat
    nonszalancko przerzucony przez ramię. - O, znakomaja jediet - mówi i zbliża się
    do stojącego przed nami samochodu z wielkim napisem znanej organizacji
    charytatywnej. Potem ta znakomaja (kierowniczka przedstawicielstwa tej
    organizacji na Czeczenię) opowie mi, jak za każdym jej przejazdem przez
    posterunek pijana kobieta ją pyta: - A jakież to majteczki masz dzisiaj i robi
    jej rewizję osobistą długo i złośliwie.
    
    Gdy pierwszy raz znakomaja protestowała, dostała w twarz tak silnie, że
    upadła. A pani żołnierz powiedziała: - Nie podoba ci się?! Idź poskarż się w
    ONZ, to zdechniesz jak oni - i popchnęła ją w kierunku sąsiedniej budy. Za
    drzwiami w miejscu podłogi był dół pełen wody, a w nim, podpierając się wzajem
    ramionami, stali ludzie. Niektórzy wydawali się martwi. Cuchnęło chlorem, który
    w ogromnych ilościach dosypano do wody. Z potwornie czerwonych oczu lały się
    łzy, usta z trudem łapały powietrze...
    
    W czasie gdy jeden żołnierz sprawdza kierowcę, inny wsadza głowę do
    samochodu. - Dokumenty - rzuca w moją stronę. Robi mi się zimno, bo wiem, że
    mało przypominam Czeczenkę. Robi mi się zimno, mimo świadomości, że jestem pod
    specjalną opieką. Odziany w panterkę milczący młodzieniec o smutnych brązowych
    oczach dysponuje glejtem ułatwiającym poruszanie się po Czeczenii. Rosjanin
    długo ogląda dokument, oddaje go z ociąganiem. Ruszamy.
    
    - Co to za legitymacja? - pytam. Smutne oczy zwracają się ku mnie: - Po co
    ci wiedzieć? Paskudne uczucie: - nie wierzą mi! Ale Zuhra mówi: - Im mniej
    wiesz, tym - w razie czego - mniej powiesz. Ja też nie wiem, jak on się nazywa.
    Musimy mieć przecież swoich ludzi u nich. Inaczej ryzyko byłoby jeszcze większe.
    
    W razie czego... To nie jest do wyobrażenia. Wyobrazić sobie można ból,
    który znasz. Ale jak się zachowuje człowiek, któremu wbijają ostrza pod
    paznokcie albo podłączają do uszu przewody elektryczne pod napięciem? A nawet
    jeśli tylko wepchną do jakiejś wilgotnej celi i będą poniżać, to co? Wykupić
    się uda na jednym posterunku, ale co na drugim, trzecim? Po drodze do Groznego
    naliczyłam ich 25... Na pierwszym, wjazdowym jest jeszcze komputer. Dane z
    dokumentów przepuszczane są przez jego bazę. I można usłyszeć: Wychodzić!
    Jesteście poszukiwani!
    
    ***
    
    A wtedy najprawdopodobniej będzie tak, jak z 30 tysiącami ofiar zaczystek,
    czyli operacji specjalnych, prowadzonych w Czeczenii przez wojska rosyjskie. O
    każdej porze dnia i nocy w republice nie większej niż powiat krakowski
    dziesiątki czołgów, wozów pancernych, ciężarówek wojskowych, wśród których jest
    i specjalna przeznaczona do tortur, otaczają jedną wieś, drugą, następną...
    Wdzierają się do domów po dwudziestu, trzydziestu, i...
    
    Może być tak, jak 23 sierpnia o 5 rano w Enikałoj. - Wozów bojowych ze sto
    sztuk, wszystko nabite żołnierzami - wspomina znajoma Zariny, Zuhra. -
    Wyskoczyliśmy na podwórko z dokumentami. Nie daj Boże, trafi się niecierpliwy
    federał, to - w najlepszym razie - możesz być skatowana albo zastrzelona na
    miejscu, w gorszym - zabrana. Chyba dwudziestu uzbrojonych po zęby, w maskach i
    panterkach wdarło się na podwórze i do domu. Jak zawsze - brudni, niegoleni,
    naćpani i śmierdzący wódką. Klęli potwornie. Strzelali nam pod nogi. Wyrwali mi
    dowód i zaczęli drzeć. Wykupiłam go za 500 rubli, wszystko, co miałam.
    
    - Weszli do sąsiadów, Magomedowów. Usłyszeliśmy strzały. I rozdzierający
    głos piętnastoletniej Aminat, siostry Achmeda i Asłanbeka. - Pomóżcie, proszę,
    czy naprawdę nikt mnie nie słyszy?! - Zostawc
    - Gość: diabeł USA milczy i popiera ludobójstwa 1/2 IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 11.10.02, 11:51
      
      - Weszli do sąsiadów, Magomedowów. Usłyszeliśmy strzały. I rozdzierający głos
      piętnastoletniej Aminat, siostry Achmeda i Asłanbeka. - Pomóżcie, proszę, czy
      naprawdę nikt mnie nie słyszy?! - Zostawcie ją! - krzyknął któryś z braci. -
      Lepiej nas zabijcie! Znowu strzały. Przez okno zobaczyliśmy na wpół rozebranego
      komendanta OMON-u leżącego na Aminat, ociekającej krwią od ran postrzałowych.
      Inny krzyczał: - Kolian, szybciej, ona jeszcze ciepła, potem ja i Sierioża...
      
      Może być tak, jak w Siernowodsku latem, kiedy wygnano mieszkańców na pole i
      na ich oczach gwałcono kobiety. - Bądźcież Czeczenami, obrońcie je! - krzyczano
      do mężczyzn. 68 próbowało to zrobić. Przykuto ich kajdankami do wozów
      pancernych i też zgwałcono. 45 poszło potem w góry, do partyzantów, szukając
      śmierci.
      
      Może być tak, jak 27 lipca w Cocin Jurcie, kiedy jeden żołnierz gwałcił 35-
      letnią Minat, a inni znęcali się nad jej roczną córeczką, trzymając ją w
      powietrzu podwieszoną za szyję i bijąc ręcznikiem po twarzy. - Gdzie twój mąż? -
      pytali, grożąc, że zgwałcą dziecko. W tym czasie pozostali plądrowali dom,
      wynosili lodówkę, telewizor, pościel... Wszystko. - Ona ma rozmiar mojej żony -
      ucieszył się jeden i zabrał całą garderobę Minat. A to, czego wynieść nie
      mogli - ostrzelali. Szafy, kredensy, lustra... Mąż Minat wraz z innymi
      mężczyznami usiłował uciec przed zaczystką, ale zmasowany ogień z automatów i
      dział zawrócił tych, którzy jeszcze żyli. Wyłapano ich, zagnano do pustego domu
      w okolicy, gdzie urządzono punkt filtracyjny. Czyli obóz tortur.
      
      W ciągu miesiąca pobytu w Czeczenii i sąsiadującej z nią Inguszetii
      rozmawiałam z wieloma osobami, które takie obozy przeżyły. Widziałam ludzi bez
      palców i uszu, widziałam ślady po szczypcach podłączanych do prądu... Trudne to
      były rozmowy. Nie tylko dlatego, że wspominanie poniżeń przychodziło ciężko i
      nie tylko dlatego, że ani Czeczenka, ani Czeczen nigdy nie przyznają, że ich
      zgwałcono, ale dlatego, że ogromnie trudno nakłonić ich do rozmowy.
      
      Każdy, oblewany wodą, z podłączonymi do prądu albo podpalanymi genitaliami -
      podpisywał oświadczenie, że nie ma żadnych pretensji do tych, którzy go
      zatrzymali. I jeszcze jedno: że wszystko, co się z nim zdarzyło, zachowa w
      ścisłej tajemnicy. Nad każdym, kogo wypuszczono, i nad jego rodziną wisi groźba
      ponownego zaciągnięcia do filtra. I śmierci.
      
      ***
      
      Likwidacja mężczyzn, szczególnie młodych - to główny cel operacji
      antyterrorystycznej w Czeczenii. Masowo uprowadzani w czasie zaczystek,
      wyrywani z rąk matkom, siostrom, żonom giną gdzieś w kazamatach komendantur
      rosyjskiego MSW, FSB, GRU lub innych formacji specjalnych. Przeżywają ci,
      których rodzinom uda się ustalić, jaka jednostka wojskowa ich uprowadziła, bo
      wtedy wiadomo, od kogo można go wykupić. Za tysiące rubli, za dolary, za broń,
      którą najczęściej trzeba nabywać u samych Rosjan...
      
      W ostatnim półroczu Czeczeńcy są - to nowość - wysadzani w powietrze. W
      Meskier Jurcie 3 lipca 21 owiniętych lontem ludzi rozerwał dynamitowy
      fajerwerk. Matki, siostry, żony zbierały szczątki ubrań, by przynajmniej im
      urządzić pogrzeb.
      
      Szpital w Nazraniu, największej miejscowości w Inguszetii. Przemykam się z
      krewnymi 30-letniego Mowsara. Chuda, blada twarz, ogromne, zgaszone czarne
      oczy. W końcu czerwca zabrano go z ojcem z Czeczen Aułu. Włożyli im - jak
      wszystkim - czarne plastikowe worki na głowę. Ręce związali z tyłu. Gdy
      przyjechali do celu - zrzucono ich z ciężarówki. Mowsar złamał przy upadku
      kręgosłup. Stracił przytomność. Żołnierze, myśląc, że udaje martwego,
      powiedzieli kierowcy: Przejedź go. Widząc, że nie reaguje, przypalali mu pięty
      papierosami. Wreszcie odjechali, a on leżał dwa dni. Teraz uratować go może
      operacja za 10 tysięcy dolarów, więc Mowsar umiera.
      
      Szpital nie może przyjąć ofiar tortur. Więc mówi się o wypadkach,
      katastrofach i innych straszliwych zdarzeniach. Wsuwa w kieszenie pieniądze za
      resztę sprzedanego dobytku, za ostatnią krowę...
      
      Prawniczka Anne le Tallec, która w sierpniu w Czeczenii i Inguszetii
      sporządzała raport dla walczącej z torturami organizacji ACAT (Action Chretiens
      pour l�Abbatre les Tortures), a także dla ONZ, powiedziała: - Przeprowadziłam
      ponad 60 rozmów z ofiarami filtracji. Pozwala to stwierdzić, że przeciwko
      ludności cywilnej Czeczenii prowadzi się dobrze zaplanowaną i zorganizowaną
      akcję, której celem jest doprowadzenie do inwalidztwa i bezpłodności jak
      największej liczby osób.
      
      Współpracujące z Human
      Rights Watch Stowarzyszenie Przyjaźni Rosyjsko-Czeczeńskiej w Inguszetii
      donosi: w ciągu miesiąca, od 15 lipca do 15 sierpnia br. zabito i rozstrzelano
      spośród ludności cywilnej 59 osób; porwano - 64; ciężko raniono - 168; poddano
      torturom - 298; rozboju dokonano w stosunku do 398 rodzin; zburzono 97 domów,
      zgwałcono - 1 kobietę, 1 mężczyznę (tylko ci się przyznali). Aaron Rhodes -
      dyrektor wykonawczy Komisji Praw Człowieka Międzynarodowej Fundacji Helsińskiej
      twierdzi, że nad kilkusettysięczną obecnie Czeczenią zawisła groźba ludobójstwa.
      
      ***
      
      Czeczenki poszukują swych mężczyzn. Piszą do prokuratur, administracji,
      sztabów i prezydenta Putina. Rozklejają na słupach zawiadomienia z
      fotografiami. Brodzą po świeżo odgrzebanych bezimiennych dołach ze szczątkami i
      szukają skrawka znajomej kurtki, dżinsów, ręki lub nogi. Mają wygasłe, suche
      oczy. Czeczenki już nie płaczą.
      
      KRYSTYNA KURCZAB-REDLICH
    - Gość: Marcin Re: USA milczy i popiera ludobójstwa 1 IP: *.SBI.COM 11.10.02, 18:11
      
      To jest dokladnie to o czym mowie - dlaczego od US wymaga sie wszystkiego a
      europejscy ktrytycy siedza na swoich 4ech literach?
      
      Gość portalu: diabeł napisał(a):
      
      ) Gość portalu: Marcin napisał(a):
      )
      ) ) Moze to jest wlasnie pole do popisu dla tej tak bardzo przecie milujacej i
      ) ) moralnej Europu! Ale chyba niestety sie nie doczekamy.
      ) ) Latwiej krytykowac czyjes czyny niz cos zrobic. Nie robac nic, jak Europa,
      ) ) latwiej uniknac krytyki - ale za to ile jest czasu na moralne spiewy krtyki
      ) na internecie.
      )
      ) A co robi USA w sprawach skrajnego ludobójstwa w wielu krajach ?
      ) milczy i popiera ludobójców! czy dają ultimatum np.Rosji by zaprzestali
      ) swoich zbrodni ? nic podobnego, teraz USA ma inne interesy.....
      ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ) KRYSTYNA KURCZAB-REDLICH: Korespondencja z Czeczenii
      ) http://dzisiaj.dziennik.krakow.pl/redirect/?link=Magazyn/01/01.html
      ) Czeczenki już nie płaczą
      )
      ) Likwidacja młodych mężczyzn to główny cel operacji antyterrorystycznej w
      ) Czeczenii. Masowo uprowadzani w czasie zaczystek, giną gdzieś w kazamatach
      ) komendantur rosyjskiego MSW, FSB, GRU.
      )
      ) 9 września 2002 r. pod Garagorskiem na granicy Czeczenii i Inguszetii
      ) znaleziono zwłoki 15 rozebranych do naga mężczyzn ze śladami tortur. Na
      głowach
      )
      ) mieli zaciśnięte nylonowe worki. Szeroko otwarte usta dowodziły, że się
      dusili.
      )
      ) W całej republice takie zbiorowe mogiły odkrywane są niemal codziennie.
      ) Nieopodal willi generałów w Chankale, gdzie mieści się sztab wojsk
      ) rosyjskich w Czeczenii, w styczniu znaleziono 53 ciała z wyłupionymi oczami,
      ) oskalpowanymi czaszkami, bez uszu, z połamanymi rękami i nogami. Wszystko to
      ) dzieje się przy wtórze zapewnień prezydenta Rosji Władimira Putina o
      ) normalizacji sytuacji w Czeczenii i zakończeniu operacji antyterrorystycznej.
      )
      ) Zarina mówi: - Jutro jedziemy do Groznego. Ucieszyłam się bardziej czy
      ) przestraszyłam? Cztery lata temu dziennikarzom świata i Rosji powiedziano:
      ) STOP - wjazd do Czeczenii możliwy tylko za zezwoleniem Kremla, czyli
      ) niemożliwy, jeśli chcesz mówić prawdę. Andriej Babicki - korespondent
      ) amerykańskiego Radia Swoboda - chciał. Bito go więc w Czernokozowie, w
      ) najcięższym wówczas, na początku 2000 r., obozie tortur. Przykład
      poskutkował:
      ) opuszczona przez kamery telewizyjne Czeczenia kona w osamotnieniu. Bo kto nie
      ) umiera na ekranie, ten - dla świata - nie umiera wcale.
      )
      ) Chciałam jednak zobaczyć Grozny. Na własne oczy sprawdzić, czy miasto
      martwe
      )
      ) już w 1997 r., kiedy je fotografowałam - mogło umrzeć jeszcze bardziej. I czy
      ) kobiety, które po pierwszej pacyfikacji Czeczenii w latach 1994-1996 zwanej
      ) wprowadzaniem porządku konstytucyjnego mówiły, że wylały już wszystkie łzy,
      ) mogą jeszcze płakać.
      )
      ) ***
      )
      ) Granica ingusko-czeczeńska. Znak STOP. Za nim na białym tle czarne litery:
      ) Kierowco. Zatrzymaj samochód. Wyłącz silnik. Otwórz bagażnik. Przygotuj
      ) dokumenty do kontroli. I następny napis: Strzelamy bez ostrzeżenia. Betonowe
      ) bloki i zwoje drutu kolczastego niemal zagradzają drogę. Dalej ufortyfikowana
      ) buda, worki z piaskiem, spomiędzy których widać tylko lufy automatów. Nad
      budą
      ) rosyjski trójkolor biało-czerwono-niebieski smętnie zwisa we wrześniowym
      upale.
      )
      ) Żołnierze uzbrojeni po zęby, chyba z dwunastu. Przejeżdżamy przez posterunek
      ) wojskowy.
      )
      ) Samochód kluczy zygzakiem między blokami. Staje. Zbliża się żołnierz.
      ) Kierowca wychodzi. Oddaje dokumenty. Idą w kierunku bagażnika. Pod osłoną
      ) podniesionej klapy może zdarzyć się wszystko. Jeśli kierowca nie spodoba się
      ) żołnierzowi albo w dokumenty włożył nie tyle pieniędzy, ile przewiduje
      ustalona
      )
      ) na posterunkach stawka (minimum 50 rubli, czyli ok. 2 dolarów, co dla ludzi
      ) pozbawionych od lat pracy stanowi poważną sumę), to żołnierz wrzuci do
      ) bagażnika granat albo naboje i powie kierowcy, że jest czeczeńskim
      bojownikiem.
      )
      ) A to oznacza śmierć po najstraszliwszych torturach. Więc kierowca odda
      ) wszystko, co ma, żeby żołnierz zabrał te dowody winy. Czasem zabiera.
      )
      ) Może się też zdarzyć, że bardziej naćpany i pijany niż zwykle, z pijaną i
      ) naćpaną resztą - zechce się zabawić z kierowcą i pasażerami. Jesienią 2001 r.
      ) 15-letniemu Sulejmanowi Magomedowi wsunięto do przełyku żywą żmiję. Chłopiec
      ) konał, a ona zwijała się w jego żołądku. 70-letnią kobietę przez kilka dni i
      ) nocy gwałcono, aż przestała się ruszać. Na wpół martwą zastąpiły dwie młode
      ) Czeczenki wrzucone do - znajdującej się na każdym posterunku - celi.
      )
      ) Rozparta na krześle, wystawiając twarz do słońca, siedzi kobieta. Automat
      ) nonszalancko przerzucony przez ramię. - O, znakomaja jediet - mówi i zbliża
      się
      )
      ) do stojącego przed nami samochodu z wielkim napisem znanej organizacji
      ) charytatywnej. Potem ta znakomaja (kierowniczka przedstawicielstwa tej
      ) organizacji na Czeczenię) opowie mi, jak za każdym jej przejazdem przez
      ) posterunek pijana kobieta ją pyta: - A jakież to majteczki masz dzisiaj i
      robi
      ) jej rewizję osobistą długo i złośliwie.
      )
      ) Gdy pierwszy raz znakomaja protestowała, dostała w twarz tak silnie, że
      ) upadła. A pani żołnierz powiedziała: - Nie podoba ci się?! Idź poskarż się w
      ) ONZ, to zdechniesz jak oni - i popchnęła ją w kierunku sąsiedniej budy. Za
      ) drzwiami w miejscu podłogi był dół pełen wody, a w nim, podpierając się
      wzajem
      ) ramionami, stali ludzie. Niektórzy wydawali się martwi. Cuchnęło chlorem,
      który
      )
      ) w ogromnych ilościach dosypano do wody. Z potwornie czerwonych oczu lały się
      ) łzy, usta z trudem łapały powietrze...
      )
      ) W czasie gdy jeden żołnierz sprawdza kierowcę, inny wsadza głowę do
      ) samochodu. - Dokumenty - rzuca w moją stronę. Robi mi się zimno, bo wiem, że
      ) mało przypominam Czeczenkę. Robi mi się zimno, mimo świadomości, że jestem
      pod
      ) specjalną opieką. Odziany w panterkę milczący młodzieniec o smutnych
      brązowych
      ) oczach dysponuje glejtem ułatwiającym poruszanie się po Czeczenii. Rosjanin
      ) długo ogląda dokument, oddaje go z ociąganiem. Ruszamy.
      )
      ) - Co to za legitymacja? - pytam. Smutne oczy zwracają się ku mnie: - Po co
      ) ci wiedzieć? Paskudne uczucie: - nie wierzą mi! Ale Zuhra mówi: - Im mniej
      ) wiesz, tym - w razie czego - mniej powiesz. Ja też nie wiem, jak on się
      nazywa.
      )
      ) Musimy mieć przecież swoich ludzi u nich. Inaczej ryzyko byłoby jeszcze
      większe
      ) .
      )
      ) W razie czego... To nie jest do wyobrażenia. Wyobrazić sobie można ból,
      ) który znasz. Ale jak się zachowuje człowiek, któremu wbijają ostrza pod
      ) paznokcie albo podłączają do uszu przewody elektryczne pod napięciem? A nawet
      ) jeśli tylko wepchną do jakiejś wilgotnej celi i będą poniżać, to co? Wykupić
      ) się uda na jednym posterunku, ale co na drugim, trzecim? Po drodze do
      Groznego
      ) naliczyłam ich 25... Na pierwszym, wjazdowym jest jeszcze komputer. Dane z
      ) dokumentów przepuszczane są przez jego bazę. I można usłyszeć: Wychodzić!
      ) Jesteście poszukiwani!
      )
      ) ***
      )
      ) A wtedy najprawdopodobniej będzie tak, jak z 30 tysiącami ofiar zaczystek,
      ) czyli operacji specjalnych, prowadzonych w Czeczenii przez wojska rosyjskie.
      O
      ) każdej porze dnia i nocy w republice nie większej niż powiat krakowski
      ) dziesiątki czołgów, wozów pancernych, ciężarówek wojskowych, wśród których
      jest
      )
      ) i specjalna przeznaczona do tortur, otaczają jedną wieś, drugą, następną...
      ) Wdzierają się do domów po dwudziestu, trzydziestu, i...
      )
      ) Może być tak, jak 23 sierpnia o 5 rano w Enikałoj. - Wozów bojowych ze sto
      ) sztuk, wszystko nabite żołnierzami - wspomina znajoma Zariny, Zuhra. -
      ) Wyskoczyliśmy na podwórko z dokumentami. Nie daj Boże, trafi się niecierpliwy
      ) federał, to - w najlepszym razie - możesz być skatowana albo zastrzelona na
      ) miejscu, w gorszym
      - Gość: diabeł Re: USA milczy i popiera ludobójstwa 1 IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 11.10.02, 18:54
        
        Gość portalu: Marcin napisał(a):
        
        > To jest dokladnie to o czym mowie - dlaczego od US wymaga sie wszystkiego a
        > europejscy ktrytycy siedza na swoich 4ech literach?
        >
        
        chcesz krytykować Europe - OK!,
        ale fakt, że Europa nigdzie zbrojnie nie interweniuje, a USA tak, i to w
        Europie też to żaden argement na rzecz USA.
        
        otóż USA interweniuje tam gdzie ma swój interes, a nie tam gdzie rzekoma
        "moralność " by tego wymagała.
        
        jeśli Izrael pacyfikuje Palestyńczyków ma prawo do obrony, jeśli Palestyńczycy
        bronią się przed okupacją są terrorystami.
        
        jeśli ONZ uchwala rezolucje w sprawie Iraku to Irak ma natychmiast ja
        przestrzegać, ale gdy ONZ uchwala rezolucje w sprawie Izraela, to cisza, tej
        rezolucji wcale nie trzeba przestrzegać....
        
        to przypomina jako żywo "moralnośc" Związku RAdzieckiego
lew_trocki JA JESTEM RZYWY PERMANENTNIE!!!!!! 12.10.02, 21:55

Gość portalu: czapski napisał(a):

> Najbardziej mnie rozsmieszyl mnie ten fragment o Brutalnej interwencji w
Korei-
> zobacz w jakiej to szczesliwosci zyja bracia z polnocy ktorzy nie zaznali
> dominacji amerykanskiej

JAM JESTEM RZYWY PERMANENTNIE TAK JAK REWOLÓCJA. SIEDZEM W MEKSYKU I MAM KASEM
SHOWANOM POD KAKTóSEM. ALE JANIE MAM NIS PSZECIW AMERYKANSKIEJ DOMINACJI TYLKO
PSZECIW STALINOWI.

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Gość: diabeł Amerykanska piąta kolumna IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 11.10.02, 16:00

Amerykanska piąta kolumna by Dariusz Ratajczak

www.patriota.pl/?dzial=historia&nr=4
Od ponad pół wieku polityka wewnętrzna i zagraniczna Stanów Zjednoczonych są w
dużym stopniu podporządkowane interesom Izraela- państwa,które istnieje i
rozwija się dzięki amerykańskiej pomocy wojskowej i ekonomicznej. Faktom nie
można zaprzeczyć.Amerykańscy podatnicy przekazują rocznie Izraelowi 3,5
miliarda dolarów.Oblicza się,że od roku 1948 suma ogólnej pomocy USA dla
państewka mniejszego terytorialnie od Belgii,o liczbie mieszkańców
porównywalnej z Chorwacją,wyniosła 150 miliardów dolarów.A mówimy tylko o
pomocy oficjalnej,bez uwzględniania "datków cichych"-chociażby w postaci
amerykańskiej technologii wojskowej przekazywanej izraelskim siłom zbrojnym. W
ten sposób Stany Zjednoczone odpowiedzialne są między innymi za
masakry,gwałty ,represje i szczególny rodzaj rasizmu- istotne komponenty
izraelskiej polityki względem Palestyńczyków,Libańczyków i innych Arabów.
Podkreślają to nawet uczciwi amerykańscy Żydzi (i przede wszystkim patrioci
własnego kraju),tacy jak Alfred M.Lilienthal,czy Noam Chomsky.Pierwszy z nich
nie omieszkał również wspomnieć o wspieraniu przez USA propagandy
Holocaustu,która sprzyja wzbudzaniu wojowniczego nacjonalizmu i ekskluzywizmu
właściwego Izraelczykom i Żydom z diaspory.Nie od dzisiaj wiadomo,że
odpowiednio zinterpretowana przeszłość działa na korzyść chwili bieżącej i
przyszłości. Jednym z ważnych czynników "specjalnych stosunków USA-Izrael" jest
zorganizowane amerykańskie żydostwo- prawdopopodobnie najbardziej agresywna i
zacietrzewiona część "narodu wybranego". Amerykańscy Żydzi,a dokładnie wściekli
i-niestety-prominentni syjoniści wykorzystują każdą,absolutnie każdą okazję by
móc wspomóc Izrael.Ich bliskowschodni mocodawcy nigdy zresztą specjalnie nie
kryli roli,jaką im wyznaczono w Tel Avivie i Jerozolimie.Chyba dobrze ją ujął
Ben Gurion,stwierdzając na 23 Kongresie Światowej Organizacji Syjonistycznej,iż
zbiorowym obowiązkiem syjonistów w każdym kraju jest bezwarunkowa pomoc
Izraelowi,nawet gdyby pomoc ta nie korespondowała z interesem państwa,którego
Zydzi są formalnymi obywatelami.*Ten sam polityk uprzejmy był również
stwierdzić : " Gdy Żyd,w Ameryce,czy Południowej Afryce,mówi do swoich
współbraci o "naszym rządzie" ma na myśli rząd Izraela".* Ta podwójna lojalność
wielu amerykańskich Zydów (również europejskich) została dostrzeżona przez
polityków i publicystów.Wskazują oni nie tylko na moralny aspekt sprawy (Polacy
powiedzieliby:" czyj chleb jesz kolego"),ale i starają się ocenić stopień
penetracji amerykańskich newralgicznych instytucji przez wewnętrzne lobby oraz
Izrael. A jest on głęboki,podlegają mu Kongres,Senat,Biały Dom,siły
zbrojne,mass-media,uniwersytety.Posłużmy się kilkoma cytatami i krótkimi
streszczeniami wywodów kontestatorów takiego stanu rzeczy. Senator
Fullbright,przewodniczący senackiej komisji spraw zagranicznych,podsumował
rezultaty swojego dochodzenia w rzeczonej sprawie w sposób
następujący: "Izraelczycy kontrolują politykę Kongresu i Senatu."(wywiad dla
CBS z 7 pażdziernika 1973r.).W następnych wyborach utracił miejsce w Senacie.
Paul Finley,który był kongresmenem przez 22 lata opublikował w roku 1985
książkę pt."They Dare to Speak Out".Zarzucił w niej proizraelskiemu lobby
sprawowanie kontroli nad Kongresem,Senatem,Departamentem Stanu,Pentagonem,mass-
mediami,uniwersytetami i kościołami.W tej samej pozycji przytoczył również
ciekawą rozmowę,jaką w 1973 roku odbył admirał Thomas Moorer z attache
wojskowym Izraela w Waszyngtonie- Mordecai Gurem,przyszłym szefem sztabu
izraelskich sił zbrojnych.Panowie rozmawiali o samolotach uzbrojonych
w "inteligentne" pociski "Maverick",które były przedmiotem izraelskiego
pożądania.Moorer pamięta,że powiedział Gurowi :" Nie mogę panu dostarczyć tych
samolotów.Mamy tylko jeden dywizjon.Zaklinaliśmy Kongres,że je
potrzebujemy".Izraelczyk z rozbrajającą szczerością odparował : "Dacie nam
samoloty.A co do Kongresu-zajmę się tym.Oto jak-dodał admirał- jedyny dywizjon
wyposażony w poszedł do Izraela." 8 czerwca 1967 roku izraelskie lotnictwo
bombardowało przez 70 minut amerykański okręt "Liberty" wyposażony w czułe
detektory władne wybadać izraelskie zamierzenia wojskowe względem pozycji
syryjskich na Wzgórzach Golan.W wyniku tego celowego ataku zginęlo 34
marynarzy,a 171 zostało rannych.Poważny incydent zatuszował prezydent Lyndon
Johnson obawiając się wściekłej reakcji ze strony amerykańskiego podatnika
płacącego ciężkie pieniądze na izraelskie zbrojenia.* Rezolucja Narodów
Zjednoczonych z listopada 1967 roku zażądała od Izraela ewakuacji wojsk z
terenów okupowanych w wyniku krótkotrwałej wojny z arabskimi
sąsiadami.Prezydent de Gaulle,jeden z niewielu polityków zachodnich nie
ulegających Izraelowi,ogłosił embargo na dostawę broni do tego
kraju.Amerykański Kongres postąpił podobnie,ale Johnson uległ presji wielce
wpływowego oficjalnego żydowskiego lobby-" American Israeli Public Affair
Commitee" i dostarczył sojusznikowi samoloty "Phantom". Każdy powojenny
prezydent USA,nie tylko nad wyraz słuzalczy Johnson,w zasadniczych kwestiach
działał pod dyktando potężnego żydowskiego lobby-tej prawdziwej
politycznej,finansowej i medialnej "megaośmiornicy" (wyjątek stanowił człowiek
starej daty- Eisenhower).Przypominam kilka faktów. Prezydent Harry Truman
stwierdził w obecności grupy dyplomatów (a były to czasy,gdy syjonistyczna
panienka jeszcze nieśmiało drobiła po trotuarze):"Przykro mi panowie,ale muszę
(pozytywnie) odpowiedzieć setkom tysięcy ludzi,którzy spodziewają się sukcesu
syjonizmu.Wśród moich wyborców nie ma tysięcy Arabów." Podczas spotkania z Ben
Gurionem w "Astoria Waldorf Hotel" w Nowym Jorku wiosną 1961 r.,John F.Kennedy
(dzisiaj zresztą pomawiany o antysemityzm) przyznał,że został wybrany dzięki
głosom Zydów (i dzięki ich subsydiom- dodajmy). Prezydent Ronald
Reagan,wykazujący pewne niezadowolenie z proizraelskiego szarogęszenia się w
Waszyngtonie,połknął gorzką pigułkę,gdy protestując przeciwko izraelskiej
aneksji Wzgórz Golan musial wysłuchać bezczelnej riposty Menachema
Begina : "Czy my jesteśmy bananową republiką albo waszym wasalem?!" Nie muszę
dodawać,że każdy kto oprotestowuje ta anormalną sytuację wodzenia za nos
supermocarstwa przez facetów z wypchanymi portfelami jest oskarżany o
antysemityzm,postponowany,lżony,pozbawiany politycznego znaczenia,środków
egzystencji lub czegoś więcej. Taka jest współczesna Ameryka i zamerykanizowana
Europa.Lubimy ulegać modom.

*B.Gurion,Task and Character of a Modern Zionist,"Jerusalem Post",17 sierpień
1952.

*Rebirth and destiny of Israel,1954,s.489.

*Sprawa została ujawniona przez oficera z "Liberty"- Jamesa M.Ennesa juniora w
książce jego autor- stwa ;'Assault on the Liberty".

Dariusz Ratajczak

Gość: 666 Singer:The Cafeteria: Read by David Margulies IP: *.cm-upc.chello.se 11.10.02, 17:16

www.kcrw.org/ra/js_cafe.ram
"The Cafeteria" by I.B. Singer. Read by David Margulies
A Yiddish writer in New York strikes up a friendship with a survivor from
Stalin's Siberia. Can he possibly believe her fantastic stories?

Gość: diabeł Wszyscy równi - Amerykanie równiejsi IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 11.10.02, 16:03

Wszyscy równi - Amerykanie równiejsi
Grzegorz Dawidowski
www.patriota.pl/?nr=20021003_1#Art7
Dygnitarze Unii Europejskiej w poniedziałek uzgodnili kompromisowy plan, który
może zakończyć spór z Waszyngtonem w kwestii Międzynarodowego Trybunału
Karnego.

Wszystkim, którzy nie wiedzą o co chodzi w całej sprawię śpieszymy wyjasnić, że
Amerykanie nie chcą aby ich żołnierze w wypadku naruszenia prawa odpowiadali
przed Międzynarodowym Trybunałem Karnym. Ministrowie spraw zagranicznych UE
ustalili w poniedziałek ,,ogólne wytyczne'' dla państw członkowskich, które -
jeśli zechcą - nie będą musiały kierować do Trybunału podejrzanych Amerykanów.
Najbardziej nieprzyjaźnie nastawione do zasady ,,nietykalności'' Amerykanów są
Niemcy. Układ o ONZ-owskim Międzynarodowym Trybunale Karnym ratyfikowało dotąd
78 państw.

Grzegorz Dawidowski

Gość: diabeł USA UBER ALLES IP: *.krakow.cvx.ppp.tpnet.pl 13.10.02, 23:21

Amerykański desant w Hadze?
www.tygodnik.com.pl/numer/276426/pz.html
Czy amerykańscy marines zaatakują Holandię? Perspektywa abstrakcyjna, ale
teoretycznie pytanie jest uzasadnione: 1 lipca w holenderskiej Hadze rozpoczyna
działalność Międzynarodowy Trybunał, powołany przez ONZ i mający być globalnym
odpowiednikiem sprawdzonego już międzynarodowego trybunału ds. zbrodni
wojennych w b. Jugosławii. Jednak Stany Zjednoczone nie tylko odmówiły
przyłączenia się do grona ponad 60 państw, które ratyfikowały traktat o
powstaniu Trybunału (podobnie uczynił m.in. Izrael). Amerykański Kongres
przyjął pakiet ustaw, który umożliwia armii amerykańskiej interwencję w obronie
Amerykanów i przedstawicieli krajów sojuszniczych (NATO), postawionych przed
haskim Trybunałem. „To nie żart” – pisze komentator niemieckiego FRANKFURTER
ALLGEMEINE ZEITUNG (z 18 czerwca) – choć ustawy są bardziej gestem politycznym,
w którym ujawnia się nieufność Amerykanów wobec instytucji międzynarodowych.
Co więcej, nieufny rząd USA przedstawił w ubiegłym tygodniu Radzie
Bezpieczeństwa ONZ ultimatum, żądając przyjęcia rezolucji, wyłączającej
żołnierzy i pracowników cywilnych misji pokojowych ONZ spod jurysdykcji
Trybunału i grożąc, że inaczej Amerykanie przestaną uczestniczyć w misjach
pokojowych ONZ – relacjonuje szwajcarski NEUE ZÜRCHER ZEITUNG (z 21 czerwca).
Kraje europejskie odrzuciły to żądanie i tak wydłuża się lista kwestii spornych
między USA a Europą, obejmująca już m.in. ochronę środowiska (protokół z
Kyoto), politykę bliskowschodnią, militarne plany Busha, karę śmierci
czy „wojnę celną” na niektóre produkty.
Kraje europejskie powstanie Trybunału – pierwszego stałego „globalnego” sądu,
mającego ścigać ludobójstwo, zbrodnie wojenne i łamanie praw człowieka –
postrzegają jako milowy krok w dziele budowy międzynarodowego systemu prawnego.
Dla Europy ultimatum USA to kolejna próba zakwestionowania sensu takiego sądu.
Prezydent Clinton podpisał wprawdzie międzynarodowy traktat o powołaniu
Trybunału, ale nie przesłał go Senatowi USA do ratyfikacji. Amerykanie od
początku wyrażali obawy, że Trybunał może ograniczyć ich suwerenność i zostanie
zdominowany przez kraje niechętne USA, które wykorzystają go do zwalczania
Ameryki. Zastrzeżenia wzmogły się za Busha i w maju Biały Dom poinformował ONZ,
że wycofuje podpis Clintona.
Argument Europejczyków, że postulowany przez USA immunitet dla sił pokojowych
ONZ podważa sens Trybunału, Amerykanów nie przekonuje. Wytykają oni
Europejczykom mierzenie „podwójną miarą”: oto w styczniu rząd brytyjski,
działający w imieniu 19 państw uczestniczących w misji pokojowej w
Afganistanie, zawarł porozumienie z rządem w Kabulu, że żaden żołnierz sił
międzynarodowych nie zostanie przekazany sądowi międzynarodowemu bez zgody
właściwego rządu.
Polityka USA wkomponowuje się tutaj w dążenie Busha do
utrwalenia „strategicznej autonomii” – dowodzi politolog Lothar Rühl w NEUE
ZÜRCHER ZEITUNG (z 18 czerwca). Już w minionej dekadzie, od wojny w Zatoce
(1990-91) przez Bałkany po Afganistan ukształtowały się priorytety polityki USA
w sytuacji kryzysu, które mogą wpłynąć także na stosunki w NATO: Amerykanie nie
zamierzają dzielić się dowództwem i „strategiczną odpowiedzialnością” ani
przekazywać swych żołnierzy pod obce dowództwo bądź jurysdykcję. W
amerykańskich operacjach poza obszarem NATO wykluczone jest też uzależnienie od
sojuszników czy instytucji międzynarodowych; słowem, operacje, w których
uczestniczą Amerykanie, powinny być kontrolowane przez USA. USA uważają
wreszcie, że nie powinno się mieszać w jednym teatrze działań wojsk, które
wykonują operacje o charakterze interwencyjnym z działaniami peace-keeping.
Priorytetom tym USA podporządkowują reorganizowaną właśnie strukturę sił
zbrojnych.
Trybunał Międzynarodowy nie zlikwiduje od razu bezprawia i dyktatur w świecie.
Jego pozycja zależeć będzie nie tylko od procesów, które podejmie jako
pierwsze, ale też od tego, czy potwierdzą się obawy o możliwości politycznych
nadużyć – a przede wszystkim, ile krajów będzie się czuć zobligowanych przez
jego statut i będzie z nim współpracować. Także dlatego jest tak ważne –
podkreśla komentator FRANKFURTER ALLGEMEINE (z 19 czerwca), by USA opuściły
szeregi „nieświętej” koalicji, w której niechcący znaleźli się obok
takich „państw bandyckich” jak Irak czy Korea Północna. Choć na razie nic nie
wskazuje, aby Amerykanie zmienili zdanie.
WP

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ALICE IN WONDERLAND AND THE WTC DISASTER IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE FORCE
BEHIND THE U.S. ATROCITIES JUST ASK: WHO BENEFITS?

"Nothing would be what it is, Because everything would be what it isn't. And
contrary-wise -what it is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would.
You see?" - Alice in Wonderland.

By David Icke
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles3/worldtradecenter.html

The force that seeks to control this world and introduce its global fascist
state, the network I call the Illuminati, is nothing if not predictable.

The unbelievable horror perpetrated on the cities of New York and Washington is
a problem-reaction-solution sting on the collective mind of all humanity and I
have been expecting an event of this magnitude for some years. I thought it
could be a war or a nuclear "terrorist" device, but something fantastic was
always going to happen during the years of the Bush presidency when, as I wrote
on inauguration day, the agenda would be pressed forward with a gathering pace.

Fast as the world was being moved towards global centralised fascism, it was
still not fast enough to match the timescale demanded by the Illuminati agenda.
And the opposition to their globalisation plans and their assaults on freedom,
was gathering by the day. It was clear that something of enormous magnitude was
being orchestrated that would so devastate the collective human mind with fear,
horror, and insecurity, that "solutions" could be offered that would advance
the agenda in a colossal leap almost overnight. This is what we saw in America
on the ritually-significant eleventh day of the ninth month - 911 is the number
for emergencies in the United States. Ritual and esoteric codes are at the
heart of everything the Illuminati undertakes.

And, mind-numbing as these atrocities are, this is the start, not the end, of
the next cycle of the Illuminati agenda for the mental, emotional, spiritual,
and physical imprisonment of humankind. More and more death and destruction
will unfold as the "Free World" unites as an (in affect) world army and world
government to use the threat of "terrorism" (their own) to justify a war
against the people and countries they choose to take the rap for what the very
forces WITHIN the "free world" are themselves responsible for. Even war with
the Islamic peoples is not the end, but the means to an end - a conflict with
the remaining forces of communism, which they also control. Remember that the
Illuminati operate through every country and within "terrorist" organisations
and those agencies which "oppose" such terrorism. Only by having agents within
all "sides" can they be sure of controlling the game and knowing the outcome
before it starts. The Illuminati have operatives within the Islamic world, just
as they have them in the so-called "free world", as we shall see in the months
to come. Saddam Hussein is every bit as much a knowing Illuminati pawn as
Father George and Boy George Bush in America, for example (seeAnd The Truth
Shall Set You Free).

The predictability of the ritualistic, emotionless, reptilian mind can be seen
in the news management that has followed this U.S. disaster. Look at what
always happens in these circumstances and you will see that the blueprint is
the same in almost every case. Before the event happens the fall-guy or "patsy"
is already set up to take the blame, thus steering the public mind away from
dangerous speculation and onto a pre-ordained target. After the Kennedy
assassination it was Lee Harvey Oswald; after Oklahoma it was Timothy McVeigh;
now it is Osama Bin Laden.

Bin Laden, deeply misguided as he may be, is no more responsible for what
happened this week than I am. His name was introduced with the most obvious co-
ordination immediately after the disaster unfolded in the same way that the
background to Lee Harvey Oswald was being circulated BEFORE President Kennedy
was even dead.

The idea that this guy from the mountains of Afghanistan with far more mouth
than substance could be the "Mr. Big" of this enormous operation is utterly
insulting to anyone of even basic intelligence (see the article by journalist
Robert Fisk, who has met him). We are not talking a parcel bomb here, nor even
some mind-controlled fanatic driving a car bomb into a restaurant in Jerusalem.
Four commercial airliners had to be simultaneously hi-jacked in American air
space via American airports and flown into highly specific targets within 45
minutes of each other. How was this possible? Because it was an inside job,
that's how, orchestrated by forces WITHIN the United States and planned by the
highest levels of U.S. "Intelligence" in co-ordination with other strands of
the Illuminati spider's web worldwide.

With an army now of mind-controlled assets at their disposal, it is possible to
get them to do anything they require once the mind is programmed and the
trigger given to activate them. Those responsible for hi-jacking those planes
and flying them into buildings will, in their conscious mind, have believed in
the "cause" they were programmed to believe in. But in truth they were not hi-
jacking and flying those planes, their programming was. Mind control is now so
sophisticated that such programming is almost child's play.

This terror was not a failure of U.S. Intelligence for God's sake. They were
not supposed to uncover the plot and getting weapons onto planes is so much
easier if you have support from those who control the system. I have heard that
this is another "Pearl Harbor" and yes it is. You can read in ..And The Truth
Shall Set You Free and other books and studies how the American government knew
the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor, but they did nothing about it.
Why? Because they wanted it to happen for a specific reason - to justify the
U.S. entry into the Second World War, which President Roosevelt (a blood
relative of the Bushes) had said, just to get elected, that America would not
be involved in. Problem-reaction-solution - and it's the same with the terrible
events of this week. (Press here for an explanation of Problem-Reaction-
Solution (PRS) if you are new to this technique).

In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, the "pin it on bin Laden" campaign
was launched as per pre-arranged plan. The Republican Senator and Illuminati
stooge, Orrin Hatch, for example, told CNN that he had high-level information
from the FBI that bin Laden was behind the unprecedented attacks. "I do have
some information," Hatch said in reference to his FBI briefing. "They've come
to the conclusion that this looks like it may be the signature of Osama bin
Laden, that he may be the one behind this." It's OK, don't go on, Orrin, we get
the message and you have done your job.

Then we had the story of the hire car found so conveniently at Boston airport,
where two planes were hijacked, which containedyeswait for ita copy of the
Koran and an instruction video for how to fly commercial jets!!! Am I in
fairyland or what? I am surprised they did not claim to have discovered a
letter from bin Laden in the car wishing the occupants the best of luck with
their task. Maybe they plan to "find" that tomorrow, eh? It's unbelievable
nonsense, of course it is, but most will believe it. And you will see more and
more manufactured "evidence" of the "bin Laden connection" systematically
revealed in the days and weeks ahead.

So, the question: Who benefits? Well, the Illuminati want a world government
and army, a world currency and centralised global financial dictatorship and
control. They want micro-chipped people and a society based on constant
surveillance of all kinds at all times. And they want a frightened, docile,
subservient, people who give their power away to the "authorities" who can save
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And they want a frightened, docile, subservient, people who give their power
away to the "authorities" who can save them from what they have been
manipulated to fear.

Funnily enough the question "who benefits from these horrific events in
America?" can be answered very simply: Anyone who wants to introduce the above.
The disaster of 9-11, means that:

The Illuminati now have the excuse to retaliate against anyone their propaganda
machine can manipulate the population to believe was to blame. Attacks against
Islamic targets have the potential to be the trigger for massive conflict and
upheaval across the world and especially in the Middle and Near East. The
opportunities to then widen the conflict to involve Russia and China are
endless. A third world war is part of the agenda and this can open the way for
that as the dominoes fall.

The "free world united with America" rhetoric from Blair and other "world
leaders" is code for coming together as a world army and police force to fight
a "war against terrorism". Already the Bilderberg-controlled NATO (the world
army in waiting) has pledged such support and the collective consciousness is
being manipulated so comprehensively at this time that most people will support
American and NATO terrorist attacks on unsubstantiated targets in the name of
fighting terrorism. The stunning contradiction in this policy will be lost on
the majority blinded by the blatant and intense mind manipulation that has
followed the outrages in those U.S. cities.

As conflict escalates as a result of such calculated "retaliation" the pressure
for centralisation of military power and the willingness to concede that power
by the populations of America and elsewhere will gather until the world army is
in place, a world army with the power to attack and take over any country that
their propaganda machine can demonise.

The collective mind of humanity, and particularly that of America, is
understandably now in a deeply traumatised state. They have been subjected to
collective trauma-based mind control and, as any mind controller or researcher
can tell you, a traumatised mind is a suggestible mind. So in the wake of the
trauma comes the programming to manipulate the population to see events in the
desired fashion.

One of the biggest potential obstacles to the "New World Order", the centrally-
controlled fascist global state, is the psyche of most American people. When
faced with the prospect of giving up their right of self-determination to
global military, political, and financial control, most would be vehemently
opposed once they realised what was happening. Their collective sense of
security, confidence, and pride in their nation and system has been built on
the foundations of immense military and financial strength. It is a collective
version of the John Wayne mentality - "don't mess with us - this is America."
From that has come their collective confidence in themselves as a nation. Now
that very sense of who they are, and their belief that they have the power to
stand alone, is in danger of being devastated.

It is absolutely no co-incidence that the targets of those hi-jacked planes
were the very symbols of America's sense of itself and its own security - the
Pentagon, symbol of their military might, and the World Trade Centre, twin
pillars of their financial might. This is not primarily an attack on America,
it is an attack on America's image and imagination of itself. Break their
spirit and their sense of being "American"; break America's confidence in
itself; put it in fear and fundamental insecurity; and you have overcome the
most significant opposition to America allowing itself to be absorbed into the
Illuminati's global and centrally-dictated society. The American psyche will
now be bombarded with more and more shocks to its security and sense of self,
as with Oklahoma and the school shootings in the past. But from now on
everything will be increased dramatically. It is vital that Americans refuse to
submit to this and realise that those who are condemning the terrorism in their
midst are those who are responsible for it.

When I first travelled America in 1996, I was staggered at what a controlled
society the "Land of the Free" really was (though still not as bad as Canada).
Now in the wake of this tragedy, the United States, and other countries, are
set to become a fortress of invasive surveillance and, what's more, because of
what has happened, the American people will not utter a significant word of
protest at the rapid expansion of this Big Brother society. Problem-reaction-
solution. Watch for micro-chipping of people to be suggested to "stop the
terrorists".

An economic disaster has long been predicted by those who have exposed and
studied the Illuminati agenda. To overcome resistance to single currencies and
central control of global finance, they need a world economic crash that will
destroy the present system and kid the people into accepting centralised global
control as the only way to overcome the crash. Problem-reaction-solution. This
is another reason why these attacks struck in the very heart of America's
economic system - and why in the days before the carnage the talk of a global
economic recession was plastered across the world media. Now they have a blank
sheet of paper with the chance to justify such a collapse and you will see
global economic bodies brought in to "co-ordinate a response to the economic
crisis". Indeed the G7 (Illuminati) grouping of nations has already begun this
process.

These are just a few of the "benefits" to the agenda from the death and
destruction in New York and Washington that was, I repeat, co-ordinated by
forces within U.S. borders. Those responsible are possessed by non-human
entities and have no regard for human life any more than most humans have
regard for the death and suffering of cattle. The reptilian mind has an
undeveloped emotional level and therefore there is no emotional consequence for
them no matter to what depths of horror and depravity they may sink. You only
had to watch the emotionless, going-through-the-motions, reading the script,
responses of George W. Bush and Tony Blair, the UK Prime Minister, in the face
of such immense suffering to see an example of this. It was in the class of the
Queen of England after the murder of Princess Diana. At least Reagan was a
professional actor. Bush and Blair wouldn't get in a school play.

Did George W. Bush know that these devastating disasters were going to happen
that day? What do you think?? Did Tony Blair? What do you think?? But even they
are only pawns in a game controlled by far greater powers and they are as
expendable as anyone once they have served their purpose. Personally I would
not be surprised in the least if Bush was sacrificed eventually to advance
the "global terrorism" scenario, and perhaps someone very close to Blair also.
And, of course, if Bush does go, the new President would be the serial killer,
Dick Cheney (see The Biggest Secret). The stakes are going to be stacked very
high indeed from this point because the final push to global fascism has begun.

The world will never be the same again, that's true, but within every danger
there is opportunity. And for those of us, the vast majority, who seek peace
not conflict, freedom-for-all, not dictatorship-by-the-few, now have to look
ourselves in the mirror and ask what we are going to do to stop these lunatics
from taking over their asylum.

Complaining is not good enough any more. Running is no longer an option because
soon there will be nowhere to run. It is time to lift the arse (that's "ass"
or "Bush" to Americans) from the chair and let's stop sitting down and taking
this shit. People can bom

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Anne McLellan Letter 24 15May2000 Please raise your War Crimes Unit pay
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"Gen. McCaffrey's troops fired at Iraqis spotted nearby and 15 to 20 people in
civilian dress fell, according to witnesses." — Agence France-Presse
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May 15, 2000

The Honourable Anne McLellan, P.C., M.P.
Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada
Room 360, Justice Building
239 Wellington Street
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0H8

E-mail: mclela@parl.gc.ca
Anne McLellan:
I bring to your attention the following story which I came across in this
morning's National Post:
U.S. GENERAL KILLED UNARMED IRAQIS: STORY
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AT END OF GULF WAR
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WASHINGTON • U.S. troops under the command of General Barry McCaffrey, who now
heads the White House's anti-drug office, killed unarmed Iraqi troops at the
end of the 1991 Gulf War, according to a report in The New Yorker magazine.

The article in the magazine's May 22 edition cites Gen. McCaffrey's former
military colleagues who question whether he used excessive force on three
occasions when he commanded the 24th Infantry Division.

The U.S. Army investigated the events and found no wrongdoing, but the report
claims important witnesses and information were ignored or missed.

In the first case, on Feb. 27, 1991, Gen. McCaffrey's troops opened fire on 382
detained and wounded Iraquis, all stripped of their weapons. The number of
casualties is unknown.

Another attack in question, the day after the Feb. 28 ceasefire, followed the
discovery of a cache of weapons at a deserted schoolhouse. Gen. McCaffrey's
troops fired at Iraqis spotted nearby and 15 to 20 people in civilian dress
fell, according to witnesses.

On March 2 — a day before peace talks began — Gen. McCaffrey reported his
division had come under heavy attack and he responded with an "all-out attack"
that the report described as "one of the biggest — and most one-sided — of the
Gulf War."

The number of casualties is unknown, but 700 Iraqi tanks, armoured cars and
trucks were destroyed, the report said.

"There was no need to be shooting at anybody," said James Johnson Jr., a
retired lieutenant-general. "They couldn't surrender fast enough. The war was
over."
Other enlisted men cited in the report said the Iraqis had not made the initial
attack.

Gen. McCaffrey declined to be interviewed for the report.
Agence France-Presse

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National Post, 15-May-2000, p. A14.
As there is some immigration from the United States to Canada, there is some
chance that a few of the U.S. soldiers involved in the above atrocities are
today living in Canada. If your War Crimes Unit prosecuted at least one such
American, then it would shatter its image as a branch of the Canadian Jewish
Congress (CJC) and as having as its main purpose increasing Jewish cohesion and
support for Israel which keeping alive the image of non-Jewish Nazi war
criminals accomplishes.

I think that I can suggest a solution to the problem of the corruption of your
War Crimes Unit — which is a substantial raise in pay for its employees. My
reasoning is as follows: (1) good lawyers don't work for your War Crimes Unit
because they can make a lot more money in the private sector; and (2) good
lawyers don't work for your War Crimes Unit because of the low quality of the
work — which is overwhelmingly persecuting non-Jewish old men for conjectured
immigration infractions committed half a century ago. The presence of one of
these deterrents without the other might not degrade personnel quality much —
some good lawyers do tolerate low pay if the work is valuable, and some good
lawyers do tolerate work of low value if the pay is high. However, it is hard
to imagine any good lawyer willing to do demeaning work for low pay.

Given these two deterrents acting together, then, the result may be that your
War Crimes Unit ends up being staffed by the losers of their profession,
tending toward such characteristics as docility, subservience, mediocrity,
incompetence, and lack of judgment.

The effect of a substantial hike in pay, then, could be that a higher quality
of personnel would be attracted, and that these would have the good sense to
begin prosecuting real war criminals, and even the good sense to resist CJC
directives that you may pass along to them instructing them to neglect the
public interest in order to carry out some CJC agenda.

Lubomyr Prytulak

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United States War Crimes Against Iraq

Final Judgment:International War Crimes Tribunal

The members of the International War Crimes Tribunal, meeting in New York, have
carefully considered the Initial Complaint of the Commission of Inquiry dated
May 6, 1991 against President George H. W. Bush, Vice President J. Danforth
Quayle, Secretary of Defense Richard Cheney, Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf Commander
of the Allied Forces in the Persian Gulf, and others named in the Complaint
charging them with nineteen separate crimes against peace, war crimes, and
crimes against humanity in violation of the Charter of the United Nations, the
1949 Geneva Conventions, the First Protocol thereto, and other international
agreements and customary international law:

having the right and obligation as citizens of the world to sit in judgment
regarding violations of international humanitarian law;

having heard the testimony from various Commissions of Inquiry hearings held
within their own countries and/or elsewhere during the past year and having
received reports from numerous other Commission hearings which recite the
evidence there gathered;

having been provided with documentary evidence, eyewitness statements, photos,
videotapes, special reports, expert analyses and summaries of evidence
available to the Commission; having access to all evidence, knowledge, and
expert opinion in the Commission files or available to the Commission;

having been provided by the Commission, or elsewhere obtained, various books,
articles, and other written materials on various aspects of events and
conditions in the Persian Gulf and military and arms establishments;

having considered newspaper coverage, magazine and periodical reports, special
publications, T.V., radio, and other media coverage and public statements by
the accused, other public officials and other public materials;

having heard the presentations of the Commission of Inquiry in public hearing
on February 29, 1992, the testimony and evidence there presented; and having
met, considered and deliberated with each other and with Commission staff and
having considered all the evidence that is relevant to the nineteen charges of
criminal conduct alleged in the Initial Complaint make the following findings.

Findings
The members of the International War Crimes Tribunal finds each of the named
accused Guilty on the basis of the evidence against them and that each of the
nineteen crimes alleged in the Initial Complaint, attached hereto, has been
established to have been committed beyond a reasonable doubt.

The members believe that it is imperative if there is ever to be peace that
power be accountable for its criminal acts and we condemn in the strongest
possible terms those found guilty of the charges herein. We urge the Commission
of Inquiry and all people to act on recommendations developed by the Commission
to hold power accountable and to secure social justice on which lasting peace
must be based.

Recommendations
The Members urge the immediate revocation of all embargoes, sanctions and
penalties against Iraq because they constitute a continuing crime against
humanity.

The Members urge public action to prevent new aggressions by the United States
threatened against Iraq, Libya, Cuba, Haiti, North Korea, Pakistan and other
countries and the Palestine people; fullest condemnation of any threat or use
of military technology against life, both civilian and military, as was used by
the United States against the people of Iraq.

The Members urge that the power of the United Nations Security Council, which
was blatantly manipulated by the U.S. to authorize illegal military action and
sanctions, be vested in the General Assembly; that all permanent members be
removed and that the right of veto be eliminated as undemocratic and contrary
to the basic principles of the U.N. Charter.

The Members urge the Commission to provide for the permanent preservation of
the reports, evidence, and materials gathered to make them available to others,
and to seek ways to provide the widest possible distribution of the truth about
the U.S. assault on Iraq.

Charges of Other Countries
In accordance with the last paragraph of the Initial Complaint designated Scope
of Inquiry, the Commission has gathered substantial evidence of criminal acts
by governments and individual officials in addition to those formally presented
here. Formal charges have been drafted by some Commissions of Inquiry against
other governments in addition to the United States. Those charges have not been
acted upon here. The Commission of Inquiry or any of its national components
may choose to pursue such other charges at some future time. The Members urge
all involved to exert their utmost effort to prevent recurrences of violations
by other governments that were not considered here.

Done in New York this 29th day of February, 1992.

(signed)
Olga Mejia, Panama
President of the National Human Rights Commission in Panama, a non-governmental
body representing peasants' organizations, urban trade unions, women's groups
and others.
Sheik Mohamed Rashid, Pakistan
Former deputy prime minister. Long-term political prisoner during the struggle
against British colonialism and activist for workers' and peasants' rights.
Dr. Haluk Gerger, Turkey
Founding member of Turkish Human Rights Association and professor of political
science. Dismissed from Ankara University by military government.
Susumu Ozaki, Japan
Former judge and pro-labor attorney imprisoned 1934-1938 for violating Security
Law under militarist government for opposing Japan's invasion of China.
Michael Ratner, USA
Attorney, former director of the Center for Constitutional Rights, past
president of the National Lawyers Guild.
Lord Tony Gifford, Britain
Human rights lawyer practicing in England and Jamaica. Investigated human
rights abuses in British-occupied Ireland.
Rene Dumont, France
Argonomist, ecologist, specialist in agriculture of developing countries,
author. His 45th book, This War Dishonors Us, appears in 1992.
Bassam Haddadin, Jordan
Member of Parliament, Second Secretary for the Jordanian Democratic Peoples
Party. Member of Parliamentary Committee on Palestine.
Dr. Sherif Hetata, Egypt
Medical Doctor, author, member of the Central Committee of the Arab Progressive
Unionist Party. Political prisoner 14 years in 1950s and 1960s.
Deborah Jackson, USA
First vice president of the American Association of Jurists, former director of
National Conference of Black Lawyers.
Opato Matarmah, Menominee Nation of North America
Involved in defense of human rights of indigenous peoples since 1981.
Represented the International Indian Treaty Council at the Commission of Human
Rights at the U.N.
Laura Albizu, Campos Meneses, Puerto Rico
Past President of the Puerto Rican Nationalist Party and current Secretary for
Foreign Relations. Honorary president of Peace Council.
Aisha Nyerere, Tanzania
Resident Magistrate of the High Court in Arusha, Tanzania. Researched the
impact of the Gulf war on East Africa.
Peter Leibovtich, Canada
President of United Steel Workers of America, USWA, Local 8782 and of the
Executive Council of the Ontario Federation of Labor.
John Philpot, Quebec
Attorney, member of Board of Directors of Quebec Movement for Sovereignty.
Organizing Secretary for the American Association of Jurist in Canada.
John Jones, USA
Community leader in the state of New Jersey. Vietnam veteran who became leader
of movement against U.S. attack on Iraq.
Gloria La Riva, USA
Founding member of the Farmworkers Emergency Relief Committee and Emergency
Committee to Stop the U.S. War in the Middle East in San Francisco.
Key Martin, USA
Member
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  WAR CRIMES
  A Report on United States War Crimes Against Iraq to the Commission of Inquiry
  for the International War Crimes Tribunal
  
  by Ramsey Clark and Others
  
  Index of Crimes
  The United States engaged in a pattern of conduct beginning in or before 1989
  intended to lead Iraq into provocations justifying U.S. military action against
  Iraq and permanent U.S. military domination of the Gulf.
  President Bush from August 2, 1990, intended and acted to prevent any
  interference with his plan to destroy Iraq economically and militarily.
  President Bush ordered the destruction of facilities essential to civilian life
  and economic productivity throughout Iraq.
  The United States intentionally bombed and destroyed civilian life, commercial
  and business districts, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, shelters,
  residential areas, historical sites, private vehicles and civilian government
  offices.
  The United States intentionally bombed indiscriminately throughout Iraq.
  The United States intentionally bombed and destroyed Iraqi military personnel,
  used excessive force, killed soldiers seeking to surrender and in disorganized
  individual flight, often unarmed and far from any combat zones and randomly and
  wantonly killed Iraqi soldiers and destroyed materiel after the cease fire.
  The United States used prohibited weapons capable of mass destruction and
  inflicting indiscriminate death and unnecessary suffering against both military
  and civilian targets.
  The United States intentionally attacked installations in Iraq containing
  dangerous substances and forces.
  President Bush ordered U.S. forces to invade Panama, resulting in the deaths of
  1,000 to 4,000 Panamanians and the destruction of thousands of private
  dwellings, public buildings, and commercial structures.
  President Bush obstructed justice and corrupted United Nations functions as a
  means of securing power to commit crimes against peace and war crimes.
  President Bush usurped the Constitutional power of Congress as a means of
  securing power to commit crimes against peace, war crimes, and other high
  crimes.
  The United States waged war on the environment.
  President Bush encouraged and aided Shiite Muslims and Kurds to rebel against
  the government of Iraq causing fratricidal violence, emigration, exposure,
  hunger and sickness and thousands of deaths. After the rebellion failed, the
  U.S. invaded and occupied parts of Iraq without authority in order to increase
  division and hostility within Iraq.
  President Bush intentionally deprived the Iraqi people of essential medicines,
  potable water, food, and other necessities.
  The United States continued its assault on Iraq after the cease fire, invading
  and occupying areas at will.
  The United States has violated and condoned violations of human rights, civil
  liberties and the U.S. Bill of Rights in the United States, in Kuwait, Saudi
  Arabia and elsewhere to achieve its purpose of military domination.
  The United States, having destroyed Iraq's economic base, demands reparations
  which will permanently impoverish Iraq and threaten its people with famine and
  epidemic.
  President Bush systematically manipulated, controlled, directed, misinformed
  and restricted press and media coverage to obtain constant support in the media
  for his military and political goals.
  The United States has by force secured a permanent military presence in the
  Gulf, the control of its oil resources and geopolitical domination of the
  Arabian Peninsula and Gulf region.
  
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  Index
  WWW URL: deoxy.org/wc/wc-crime.htm
  Copyright © 1992 by The Commission of Inquiry for the International War Crimes
  Tribunal
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    International War Crimes Tribunal
    United States War Crimes Against Iraq
    
    Initial Complaint
    Charging
    
    George Bush, J. Danforth Quayle, James Baker,
    Richard Cheney, William Webster, Colin Powell,
    Norman Schwarzkopf and Others to be named
    With
    
    Crimes Against Peace, War Crimes, Crimes Against
    Humanity and Other Criminal Acts and High Crimes in
    Violation of the Charter of the United Nations,
    International Law, the Constitution of the United States
    and Laws made in Pursuance Thereof.
    
    Preliminary Statement
    These charges have been prepared prior to the first hearing of the Commission
    of Inquiry by its staff. They are based on direct and circumstantial evidence
    from public and private documents; official statements and admissions by the
    persons charged and others; eyewitness accounts; Commission investigations and
    witness interviews in Iraq, the Middle East and elsewhere during and after the
    bombing; photographs and video tape; expert analyses; commentary and
    interviews; media coverage, published reports and accounts gathered between
    December 1990 and May l991. Commission of Inquiry hearings will be held in key
    cities where evidence is available supporting, expanding, adding,
    contradicting, disproving or explaining these, or similar charges against the
    accused and others of whatever nationality. When evidence sufficient to sustain
    convictions of the accused or others is obtained and after demanding the
    production of documents from the U.S. government, and others, and requesting
    testimony from the accused, offering them a full opportunity to present any
    defense personally, or by counsel, the evidence will be presented to an
    International War Crimes Tribunal. The Tribunal will consider the evidence
    gathered, seek and examine whatever additional evidence it chooses and render
    its judgment on the charges, the evidence, and the law.
    Background
    Since World War I, the United Kingdom, France, and the United States have
    dominated the Arabian Peninsula and Gulf region and its oil resources. This has
    been accomplished by military conquest and coercion, economic control and
    exploitation, and through surrogate governments and their military forces.
    Thus, from 1953 to 1979 in the post World War II era, control over the region
    was exercised primarily through U.S. influence and control over the Gulf
    sheikdoms of Saudi Arabia and through the Shah of Iran. From 1953 to 1979 the
    Shah of Iran acted as a Pentagon/CIA surrogate to police the region. After the
    fall of the Shah and the seizure of U.S. Embassy hostages in Teheran, the U.S.
    provided military aid and assistance to Iraq, as did the USSR, Saudi Arabia,
    Kuwait and most of the Emirates, in its war with Iran. U.S. policy during that
    tragic eight year war, 1980 - 1988, is probably best summed up by the
    phrase, "we hope they kill each other."
    Throughout the seventy-five year period from Britain's invasion of Iraq early
    in World War I to the destruction of Iraq in 1991 by U.S. air power, the United
    States and the United Kingdom demonstrated no concern for democratic values,
    human rights, social justice, or political and cultural integrity in the
    region, nor for stopping military aggression there. The U.S. supported the Shah
    of Iran for 25 years, selling him more than $20 billion of advanced military
    equipment between 1972 and 1978 alone. Throughout this period the Shah and his
    brutal secret police called SAVAK had one of the worst human rights records in
    the world. Then in the 1980s, the U.S. supported Iraq in its wrongful
    aggression against Iran, ignoring Iraq's own poor human rights record.[l]
    
    When the Iraqi government nationalized the Iraqi Petroleum Company in 1972, the
    Nixon Administration embarked on a campaign to destabilize the Iraqi
    government. It was in the 1970s that the U.S. first armed and then abandoned
    the Kurdish people, costing tens of thousands of Kurdish lives. The U.S.
    manipulated the Kurds through CIA and other agencies to attack Iraq, intending
    to harass Iraq while maintaining Iranian supremacy at the cost of Kurdish lives
    without intending any benefit to the Kurdish people or an autonomous Kurdistan.
    [2]
    
    The U.S. with close oil and other economic ties to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait has
    fully supported both governments despite the total absence of democratic
    institutions, their pervasive human rights violations and the infliction of
    cruel, inhuman and degrading punishments such as stoning to death for adultery
    and amputation of a hand for property offenses.
    
    The U.S., sometimes alone among nations, supported Israel when it defied scores
    of UN resolutions concerning Palestinian rights, when it invaded Lebanon in a
    war which took tens of thousands of lives, and during its continuing occupation
    of southern Lebanon, the Golan Heights, the West Bank and Gaza.
    
    The United States itself engaged in recent aggressions in violation of
    international law by invading Grenada in 1983, bombing Tripoli and Benghazi in
    Libya in 1986, financing the contra in Nicaragua, UNITA in southern Africa and
    supporting military dictatorships in Liberia, Chile, E1 Salvador, Guatemala,
    the Philippines, and many other places.
    
    The U.S. invasion of Panama in December 1989 involved the same and additional
    violations of international law that apply to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. The
    U.S. invasion took between 1,000 and 4,000 Panamanian lives. The United States
    government is still covering up the death toll. U.S. aggression caused massive
    property destruction throughout Panama.[3] According to U.S. and international
    human rights organization estimates, Kuwait's casualties from Iraq's invasion
    and the ensuing months of occupation were in the "hundreds" - between 300 and
    600.[4] Reports from Kuwait list 628 Palestinians killed by Kuwaiti death
    squads since the Sabah royal family regained control over Kuwait.
    
    The United States changed its military plans for protecting its control over
    oil and other interests in the Arabian Peninsula in the late 1980s when it
    became clear that economic problems in the USSR were debilitating its military
    capacity and Soviet forces withdrew from Afghanistan. Thereafter, direct
    military domination within the region became the U.S. strategy.
    
    With the decline in U.S. oil production through 1989, experts predicted U.S.
    oil imports from the Gulf would rise from 10% that year to 25% by the year
    2000. Japanese and European dependency is much greater.[5]
    
    The Charges
    1. The United States engaged in a pattern of conduct beginning in or before
    1989 intended to lead Iraq into provocations justifying U.S. military action
    against Iraq and permanent U.S. military domination of the Gulf.
    In 1989, General Colin Powell, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and
    General Norman Schwarzkopf, Commander in Chief of the Central Command,
    completely revised U.S. military operations and plans for the Persian Gulf to
    prepare to intervene in a regional conflict against Iraq. The CIA assisted and
    directed Kuwait in its actions. At the time, Kuwait was violating OPEC oil
    production agreements, extracting excessive amounts of oil from pools shared
    with Iraq and demanding repayment of loans it made to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq
    war. Kuwait broke off negotiations with Iraq over these disputes. The U.S.
    intended to provoke Iraq into actions against Kuwait that would justify U.S.
    intervention.
    In 1989, CIA Director William Webster testified before the Congress about the
    alarming increase in U.S. importation of Gulf oil, citing U.S. rise in use from
    5% in 1973 to 10% in 1989 and predicting 25% of all U.S. oil consumption would
    come from the region by 2000.[6] In early 1990, General Schwarzkopf informed
    the Senate Armed Services Committee of the new military strategy in the Gulf
    designed to protect U.S. access to and contro
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      In early 1990, General Schwarzkopf informed the Senate Armed Services Committee
      of the new military strategy in the Gulf designed to protect U.S. access to and
      control over Gulf oil in the event of regional conflicts.
      
      In July 1990, General Schwarzkopf and his staff ran elaborate, computerized war
      games pitting about 100,000 U.S. troops against Iraqi armored divisions.
      
      The U.S. showed no opposition to Iraq's increasing threats against Kuwait. U.S.
      companies sought major contracts in Iraq. The Congress approved agricultural
      loan subsidies to Iraq of hundreds of millions of dollars to benefit U.S.
      farmers. However, loans for food deliveries of rice, corn, wheat and other
      essentials bought almost exclusively from the U.S. were cut off in the spring
      of 1990 to cause shortages. Arms were sold to Iraq by U.S. manufacturers. When
      Saddam Hussein requested U.S. Ambassador April Glaspie to explain State
      Department testimony in Congress about lraq's threats against Kuwait, she
      assured him the U.S. considered the dispute a regional concern, and it would
      not intervene. By these acts, the U.S. intended to lead Iraq into a provocation
      justifying war.
      
      On August 2, 1990, Iraq occupied Kuwait without significant resistance.
      
      On August 3, 1990, without any evidence of a threat to Saudi Arabia, and King
      Fahd believed Iraq had no intention of invading his country, President Bush
      vowed to defend Saudi Arabia. He sent Secretary Cheney, General Powell, and
      General Schwarzkopf almost immediately to Saudi Arabia where on August 6,
      General Schwarzkopf told King Fahd the U.S. thought Saddam Hussein could attack
      Saudi Arabia in as little as 48 hours. The efforts toward an Arab solution of
      the crisis were destroyed. Iraq never attacked Saudi Arabia and waited over
      five months while the U.S. slowly built a force of more than 500,000 soldiers
      and began the systematic destruction by aircraft and missiles of Iraq and its
      military, both defenseless against U.S. and coalition technology. In October
      1990, General Powell referred to the new military plan developed in 1989. After
      the war, General Schwarzkopf referred to eighteen months of planning for the
      campaign.
      
      The U.S. retains troops in Iraq as of May 1991 and throughout the region and
      has announced its intention to maintain a permanent military presence.
      
      This course of conduct constitutes a crime against peace.
      
      2. President Bush from August 2, 1990, intended and acted to prevent any
      interference with his plan to destroy Iraq economically and militarily.
      Without consultation or communication with Congress, President Bush ordered
      40,000 U.S. military personnel to advance the U.S. buildup in Saudi Arabia in
      the first week of August 1990. He exacted a request from Saudi Arabia for U.S.
      military assistance and on August 8, 1990, assured the world his acts
      were "wholly defensive." He waited until after the November 1990 elections to
      announce his earlier order sending more than 200,000 additional military
      personnel, clearly an assault force, again without advising Congress. As late
      as January 9, 1991, he insisted he had the constitutional authority to attack
      Iraq without Congressional approval.
      While concealing his intention, President Bush continued the military build up
      of U.S. forces unabated from August into January 1991, intending to attack and
      destroy Iraq. He pressed the military to expedite preparation and to commence
      the assault before military considerations were optimum. When Air Force Chief
      of Staff General Michael J. Dugan mentioned plans to destroy the Iraqi civilian
      economy to the press on September 16, 1990, he was removed from office.[7]
      
      President Bush coerced the United Nations Security Council into an
      unprecedented series of resolutions, finally securing authority for any nation
      in its absolute discretion by all necessary means to enforce the resolutions.
      To secure votes the U.S. paid multi-billion dollar bribes, offered arms for
      regional wars, threatened and carried out economic retaliation, forgave multi-
      billion dollar loans (including a $7 billion loan to Egypt for arms), offered
      diplomatic relations despite human rights violations and in other ways
      corruptly exacted votes, creating the appearance of near universal
      international approval of U.S. policies toward Iraq. A country which opposed
      the U.S., as Yemen did, lost millions of dollars in aid, as promised, the
      costliest vote it ever cast.
      
      President Bush consistently rejected and ridiculed Iraq's efforts to negotiate
      a peaceful resolution, beginning with Iraq's August 12, 1990, proposal, largely
      ignored, and ending with its mid-February 1991 peace offer which he called
      a "cruel hoax." For his part, President Bush consistently insisted there would
      be no negotiation, no compromise, no face saving, no reward for aggression.
      Simultaneously, he accused Saddam Hussein of rejecting diplomatic solutions.
      
      President Bush led a sophisticated campaign to demonize Saddam Hussein, calling
      him a Hitler, repeatedly citing reports - which he knew were false - of the
      murder of hundreds of incubator babies, accusing Iraq of using chemical weapons
      on his own people and on the Iranians knowing U.S intelligence believed the
      reports untrue.
      
      After subverting every effort for peace, President Bush began the destruction
      of Iraq answering his own question, "Why not wait? . . . The world could wait
      no longer." The course of conduct constitutes a crime against peace.
      
      3. President Bush ordered the destruction of facilities essential to civilian
      life and economic productivity throughout Iraq.
      Systematic aerial and missile bombardment of Iraq was ordered to begin at 6:30
      p.m. EST January 16, 1991, eighteen and one-half hours after the deadline set
      on the insistence of President Bush, in order to be reported on television
      evening news in the U.S. The bombing continued for forty-two days. It met no
      resistance from Iraqi aircraft and no effective anti-aircraft or anti-missile
      ground fire. Iraq was defenseless.
      The United States reports it flew 110,000 air sorties against Iraq, dropping
      88,000 tons of bombs, nearly seven times the equivalent of the atomic bomb that
      destroyed Hiroshima. 93% of the bombs were free falling bombs, most dropped
      from higher than 30,000 feet. Of the remaining 7% of the bombs with
      electronically guided systems, more than 25% missed their targets, nearly all
      caused damage primarily beyond any identifiable target. Most of the targets
      were civilian facilities.
      
      The intention and effort of the bombing of civilian life and facilities was to
      systematically destroy Iraq's infrastructure leaving it in a preindustrial
      condition. Iraq's civilian population was dependent on industrial capacities.
      The U.S. assault left Iraq in a near apocalyptic condition as reported by the
      first United Nations observers after the war.[8] Among the facilities targeted
      and destroyed were:
      
      electric power generation, relay and transmission;
      water treatment, pumping and distribution systems and reservoirs;
      telephone and radio exchanges, relay stations, towers and transmission
      facilities;
      food processing, storage and distribution facilities and markets, infant milk
      formula and beverage plants, animal vaccination facilities and irrigation
      sites;
      railroad transportation facilities, bus depots, bridges, highway overpasses,
      highways, highway repair stations, trains, buses and other public
      transportation vehicles, commercial and private vehicles;
      oil wells and pumps, pipelines, refineries, oil storage tanks, gasoline filling
      stations and fuel delivery tank cars and trucks, and kerosene storage tanks;
      sewage treatment and disposal systems;
      factories engaged in civilian production, e.g., textile and automobile
      assembly; and
      historical markers and ancient sites.
      As a direc
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        As a direct, intentional and foreseeable result of this destruction, tens of
        thousands of people have died from dehydration, dysentery and diseases caused
        by impure water, inability to obtain effective medical assistance and
        debilitation from hunger, shock, cold and stress. More will die until potable
        water, sanitary living conditions, adequate food supplies and other necessities
        are provided. There is a high risk of epidemics of cholera, typhoid, hepatitis
        and other diseases as well as starvation and malnutrition through the summer of
        1991 and until food supplies are adequate and essential services are restored.
        Only the United States could have carried out this destruction of Iraq, and the
        war was conducted almost exclusively by the United States. This conduct
        violated the UN Charter, the Hague and Geneva Conventions, the Nuremberg
        Charter, and the laws of armed conflict.
        
        4. The United States intentionally bombed and destroyed civilian life,
        commercial and business districts, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches,
        shelters, residential areas, historical sites, private vehicles and civilian
        government offices.
        The destruction of civilian facilities left the entire civilian population
        without heat, cooking fuel, refrigeration, potable water, telephones, power for
        radio or TV reception, public transportation and fuel for private automobiles.
        It also limited food supplies, closed schools, created massive unemployment,
        severely limited economic activity and caused hospitals and medical services to
        shut down. In addition, residential areas of every major city and most towns
        and villages were targeted and destroyed. Isolated Bedouin camps were attacked
        by U.S. aircraft. In addition to deaths and injuries, the aerial assault
        destroyed 10 - 20,000 homes, apartments and other dwellings. Commercial centers
        with shops, retail stores, offices, hotels, restaurants and other public
        accommodations were targeted and thousands were destroyed. Scores of schools,
        hospitals, mosques and churches were damaged or destroyed. Thousands of
        civilian vehicles on highways, roads and parked on streets and in garages were
        targeted and destroyed. These included public buses, private vans and mini-
        buses, trucks, tractor trailers, lorries, taxi cabs and private cars. The
        purpose of this bombing was to terrorize the entire country, kill people,
        destroy property, prevent movement, demoralize the people and force the
        overthrow of the government.
        As a result of the bombing of facilities essential to civilian life,
        residential and other civilian buildings and areas, at least 125,000 men, women
        and children were killed. The Red Crescent Society of Jordan estimated 113,000
        civilian dead, 60% children, the week before the end of the war.
        
        The conduct violated the UN Charter, the Hague and Geneva Conventions, the
        Nuremberg Charter, and the laws of armed conflict.
        
        5. The United States intentionally bombed indiscriminately throughout Iraq.
        In aerial attacks, including strafing, over cities, towns, the countryside and
        highways, U.S. aircraft bombed and strafed indiscriminately. In every city and
        town bombs fell by chance far from any conceivable target, whether a civilian
        facility, military installation or military target. In the countryside random
        attacks were made on travelers, villagers, even Bedouins. The purpose of the
        attacks was to destroy life, property and terrorize the civilian population. On
        the highways, civilian vehicles including public buses taxicabs and passenger
        cars were bombed and strafed at random to frighten civilians from flight, from
        seeking food or medical care, finding relatives or other uses of highways. The
        effect was summary execution and corporal punishment indiscriminately of men,
        women and children, young and old, rich and poor, all nationalities including
        the large immigrant populations even Americans, all ethnic groups, including
        many Kurds and Assyrians, all religions including Shia and Sunni Moslems,
        Chaldeans and other Christians, and Jews. U.S. deliberate indifference to
        civilian and military casualties in Iraq, or their nature, is exemplified by
        General Colin Powell's response to a press inquiry about the number dead from
        the air and ground campaigns: "It's really not a number I'm terribly interested
        in."[9]
        The conduct violates Protocol I Additional, Article 51.4 to the Geneva
        Conventions of 1977.
        
        6. The United States intentionally bombed and destroyed Iraqi military
        personnel, used excessive force, killed soldiers seeking to surrender and in
        disorganized individual flight, often unarmed and far from any combat zones and
        randomly and wantonly killed Iraqi soldiers and destroyed materiel after the
        cease fire.
        In the first hours of the aerial and missile bombardment, the United States
        destroyed most military communications and began the systematic killing of
        soldiers who were incapable of defense or escape and the destruction of
        military equipment. Over a period of forty-two days, U.S bombing killed tens of
        thousands of defenseless soldiers, cut off most of their food, water and other
        supplies and left them in desperate and helpless disarray. Without significant
        risk to its own personnel, the U.S. led in the killing of at least 100,000
        Iraqi soldiers at a cost of 148 U.S. combat casualties, according to the U.S.
        government. When it was determined that the civilian economy and the military
        were sufficiently destroyed, the U.S. ground forces moved into Kuwait and Iraq
        attacking disoriented disorganized, fleeing Iraqi forces wherever they could be
        found, killing thousands more and destroying any equipment found. The slaughter
        continued after the cease fire. For example, on March 2, 1991, U.S. 24th
        Division Forces engaged in a four-hour assault against Iraqis just west of
        Basra. More than 750 vehicles were destroyed, thousands were killed without
        U.S. casualties. A U.S. commander said, "We really waxed them." It was called
        a "Turkey Shoot." One Apache helicopter crew member yelled "Say hello to Allah"
        as he launched a laser-guided Hellfire missile.[10]
        The intention was not to remove Iraq's presence from Kuwait. It was to destroy
        Iraq. In the process there was great destruction of property in Kuwait. The
        disproportion in death and destruction inflicted on a defenseless enemy
        exceeded 1,000 to one.
        
        General Thomas Kelly commented on February 23, 1991, that by the time the
        ground war begins "there won't be many of them left." General Norman
        Schwarzkopf placed Iraqi military casualties at over 100,000. The intention was
        to destroy all military facilities and equipment wherever located and to so
        decimate the military age male population that Iraq could not raise a
        substantial force for half a generation.
        
        The conduct violated the Charter of the United Nations, the Hague and Geneva
        Conventions, the Nuremberg Charter, and the laws of armed conflict.
        
        7. The United States used prohibited weapons capable of mass destruction and
        inflicting indiscriminate death and unnecessary suffering against both military
        and civilian targets.
        Among the known illegal weapons and illegal uses of weapons employed by the
        United States are the following:
        fuel air explosives capable of widespread incineration and death;
        napalm;
        cluster and anti-personnel fragmentation bombs; and
        "superbombs," 2.5 ton devices, intended for assassination of government
        leaders.
        Fuel air explosives were used against troops-in-place, civilian areas, oil
        fields and fleeing civilians and soldiers on two stretches of highway between
        Kuwait and Iraq. Included in fuel air weapons used was the BLU-82, a 15,000-
        pound device capable of incinerating everything within hundreds of yards.
        One seven mile stretch called the "Highway of Death" was littered with hundreds
        of vehicles and thousands of
        
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        One seven mile stretch called the "Highway of Death" was littered with hundreds
        of vehicles and thousands of dead. All were fleeing to Iraq for their lives.
        Thousands were civilians of all ages, including Kuwaitis, Iraqis, Palestinians,
        Jordanians and other nationalities. Another 60-mile stretch of road to the east
        was strewn with the remnants of tanks, armored cars, trucks, ambulances and
        thousands of bodies following an attack on convoys on the night of February 25,
        1991. The press reported that no survivors are known or likely. One flatbed
        truck contained nine bodies, their hair and clothes were burned off, skin
        incinerated by heat so intense it melted the windshield onto the dashboard.
        
        Napalm was used against civilians, military personnel and to start fires. Oil
        well fires in both Iraq and Kuwait were intentionally started by U.S. aircraft
        dropping napalm and other heat intensive devices.
        
        Cluster and anti-personnel fragmentation bombs were used in Basra and other
        cities, and towns, against the convoys described above and against military
        units. The CBU-75 carries 1,800 bomblets called Sadeyes. One type of Sadeyes
        can explode before hitting the ground, on impact, or be timed to explode at
        different times after impact. Each bomblet contains 600 razor sharp steel
        fragments lethal up to 40 feet. The 1,800 bomblets from one CBU-75 can cover an
        area equal to 157 football fields with deadly shrapnel. "Superbombs" were
        dropped on hardened shelters, at least two in the last days of the assault,
        with the intention of assassinating President Saddam Hussein. One was
        misdirected. It was not the first time the Pentagon targeted a head of state.
        In April 1986, the U.S. attempted to assassinate Col. Muammar Qaddafi by laser
        directed bombs in its attack on Tripoli, Libya.
        
        Illegal weapons killed thousands of civilians and soldiers.
        
        The conduct violated the Hague and Geneva Conventions, the Nuremberg Charter
        and the laws of armed conflict.
        
        8. The United States intentionally attacked installations in Iraq containing
        dangerous substances and forces.
        Despite the fact that Iraq used no nuclear or chemical weapons and in the face
        of UN resolutions limiting the authorized means of removing Iraqi forces from
        Kuwait, the U.S. intentionally bombed alleged nuclear sites, chemical plants,
        dams and other dangerous forces. The U.S. knew such attacks could cause the
        release of dangerous forces from such installations and consequent severe
        losses among the civilian population. While some civilians were killed in such
        attacks, there are no reported cases of consequent severe losses presumably
        because lethal nuclear materials and dangerous chemical and biological warfare
        substances were not present at the sites bombed.
        The conduct violates Protocol I Additional, Article 56, to the Geneva
        Convention, 1977.
        
        9. President Bush ordered U.S. forces to invade Panama, resulting in the deaths
        of 1,000 to 4,000 Panamanians and the destruction of thousands of private
        dwellings, public buildings, and commercial structures.
        On December 20, 1989, President Bush ordered a military assault on Panama using
        aircraft, artillery, helicopter gunships and experimenting with new weapons,
        including the Stealth bomber. The attack was a surprise assault targeting
        civilian and non-combatant government structures. In the E1 Chorillo district
        of Panama City alone, hundreds of civilians were killed and between 15,000 and
        30,000 made homeless. U.S. soldiers buried dead Panamanians in mass graves,
        often without identification. The head of state, Manuel Noriega, who was
        systematically demonized by the U.S. government and press, ultimately
        surrendered to U.S. forces and was brought to Miami, Florida, on extra-
        territorial U.S. criminal charges.
        The U.S. invasion of Panama violated all the international laws Iraq violated
        when it invaded Kuwait and more. Many more Panamanians were killed by U.S.
        forces than Iraq killed Kuwaitis.
        
        President Bush violated the Charter of the United Nations, the Hague and Geneva
        Conventions, committed crimes against peace, war crimes and violated the
        U.S.Constitution and numerous U.S. criminal statutes in ordering and directing
        the assault on Panama.
        
        10. President Bush obstructed justice and corrupted United Nations functions as
        a means of securing power to commit crimes against peace and war crimes.
        President Bush caused the United Nations to completely bypass Chapter VI
        provisions of its Charter for the Pacific Settlement of Disputes. This was done
        in order to obtain Security Council resolutions authorizing the use of all
        necessary means, in the absolute discretion of any nation, to fulfill UN
        resolutions directed against Iraq and which were used to destroy Iraq. To
        obtain Security Council votes, the U.S. corruptly paid member nations billions
        of dollars, provided them arms to conduct regional wars, forgave billions in
        debts, withdrew opposition to a World Bank loan, agreed to diplomatic relations
        despite human rights violations and threatened economic and political
        reprisals. A nation which voted against the United States, Yemen, was
        immediately punished by the loss of millions of dollars in aid. The U.S. paid
        the UN $187 million to reduce the amount of dues it owed to the UN to avoid
        criticism of its coercive activities. The United Nations, created to end the
        scourge of war, became an instrument of war and condoned war crimes.
        The conduct violates the Charter of the United Nations and the Constitution and
        laws of the United States.
        
        11. President Bush usurped the Constitutional power of Congress as a means of
        securing power to commit crimes against peace, war crimes, and other high
        crimes.
        President Bush intentionally usurped Congressional power, ignored its
        authority, and failed and refused to consult with the Congress. He deliberately
        misled, deceived, concealed and made false representations to the Congress to
        prevent its free deliberation and informed exercise of legislature power.
        President Bush individually ordered a naval blockade against Iraq, itself an
        act of war. He switched U.S. forces from a wholly defensive position and
        capability to an offensive capacity for aggression against Iraq without
        consultation with and contrary to assurances given to the Congress. He secured
        legislation approving enforcement of UN resolutions vesting absolute discretion
        in any nation, providing no guidelines and requiring no reporting to the UN,
        knowing he intended to destroy the ammed forces and civilian economy of Iraq.
        Those acts were undertaken to enable him to commit crimes against peace and war
        crimes.
        The conduct violates the Constitution and laws of the United States, all
        committed to engage in the other impeachable offenses set forth in this
        Complaint.
        
        12. The United States waged war on the environment.
        Pollution from the detonation of 88,000 tons of bombs, innumerable missiles,
        rockets, artillery and small arms with the combustion and fires they caused and
        by 110,000 air sorties at a rate of nearly two per minute for six weeks has
        caused enormous injury to life and the ecology. Attacks by U.S. aircraft caused
        much if not all of the worst oil spills in the Gulf. Aircraft and helicopters
        dropping napalm and fuel-air explosives on oil wells, storage tanks and
        refineries caused oil fires throughout Iraq and many, if not most, of the oil
        well fires in Iraq and Kuwait. The intentional destruction of municipal water
        systems, waste material treatment and sewage disposal systems constitutes a
        direct and continuing assault on life and health throughout Iraq.
        The conduct violated the UN Charter, the Hague and Geneva Conventions, the laws
        of ammed conflict and constituted war crimes and crimes against humanity.
        
        13. President Bush encouraged and aided Shiite Musli
        
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        13. President Bush encouraged and aided Shiite Muslims and Kurds to rebel
        against the government of Iraq causing fratricidal violence, emigration,
        exposure, hunger and sickness and thousands of deaths. After the rebellion
        failed, the U.S. invaded and occupied parts of Iraq without authority in order
        to increase division and hostility within Iraq.
        Without authority from the Congress or the UN, President Bush continued his
        imperious military actions after the cease fire. He encouraged and aided
        rebellion against Iraq, failed to protect the warring parties, encouraged
        migration of whole populations, placing them in jeopardy from the elements,
        hunger, and disease. After much suffering and many deaths, President Bush then
        without authority used U.S. military forces to distribute aid at and near the
        Turkish border, ignoring the often greater suffering among refugees in Iran. He
        then arbitrarily set up bantustan-like settlements for Kurds in Iraq and
        demanded Iraq pay for U.S. costs. When Kurds chose to return to their homes in
        Iraq, he moved U.S. troops further into northern Iraq against the will of the
        government and without authority.
        The conduct violated the Charter of the United Nations, international law, the
        Constitution and laws of the United States, and the laws of Iraq.
        
        14. President Bush intentionally deprived the Iraqi people of essential
        medicines, potable water, food, and other necessities.
        A major component of the assault on Iraq was the systematic deprivation of
        essential human needs and services. To break the will of the people, destroy
        their economic capability, reduce their numbers and weaken their health, the
        United States:
        imposed and enforced embargoes preventing the shipment of needed medicines,
        water purifiers, infant milk formula, food and other supplies;
        individually, without congressional authority, ordered a U.S. naval blockade of
        Iraq, an act of war, to deprive the Iraqi people of needed supplies;
        froze funds of Iraq and forced other nations to do so, depriving Iraq of the
        ability to purchase needed medicines, food and other supplies;
        controlled information about the urgent need for such supplies to prevent
        sickness, death and threatened epidemic, endangering the whole society;
        prevented international organizations, governments and relief agencies from
        providing needed supplies and obtaining information concerning needs;
        failed to assist or meet urgent needs of huge refugee populations including
        Egyptians, Indians, Pakistanis, Yemenis, Sudanese, Jordanians, Palestinians,
        Sri Lankans, Filipinos, and interfered with efforts of others to do so;
        consistently diverted attention from health and epidemic threats within Iraq
        caused by the U.S. even after advertising the plight of Kurdish people on the
        Turkish border;
        deliberately bombed the electrical grids causing the closure of hospitals and
        laboratories, loss of medicine and essential fluids and blood; and
        deliberately bombed food storage, fertilizer, and seed storage facilities.
        As a result of these acts, thousands of people died, many more suffered illness
        and permanent injury. As a single illustration, Iraq consumed infant milk
        formula at a rate of 2,500 tons per month during the first seven months of
        1990. From November 1, 1990, to February 7, 1991, Iraq was able to import only
        17 tons. Its own productive capacity was destroyed. Many Iraqis believed that
        President Bush intended that their infants die because he targeted their food
        supply. The Red Crescent Society of Iraq estimated 3,000 infant deaths as of
        February 7, 1991, resulting from infant milk formula and infant medication
        shortages.
        This conduct violates the Hague and Geneva Conventions, the Universal
        Declaration of Human Rights and other covenants and constitutes a crime against
        humanity.
        
        15. The United States continued its assault on Iraq after the cease fire,
        invading and occupying areas at will.
        The United States has acted with dictatorial authority over Iraq and its
        external relations since the end of the military conflict. It has shot and
        killed Iraqi military personnel, destroyed aircraft and materiel at will,
        occupied vast areas of Iraq in the north and south and consistently threatened
        use of force against Iraq.
        This conduct violates the sovereignty of a nation, exceeds authority in UN
        resolutions, is unauthorized by the Constitution and laws of the United States,
        and constitutes war crimes.
        
        16. The United States has violated and condoned violations of human rights,
        civil liberties and the U.S. Bill of Rights in the United States, in Kuwait,
        Saudi Arabia and elsewhere to achieve its purpose of military domination.
        Among the many violations committed or condoned by the U.S. government are the
        following:
        illegal surveillance, arrest, interrogation and harassment of Arab-American,
        Iraqi-American, and U.S. resident Arabs;
        illegal detention, interrogation and treatment of Iraqi prisoners of war;
        aiding and condoning Kuwaiti summary executions, assaults, torture and illegal
        detention of Palestinians and other residents in Kuwait after the U.S.
        occupation; and
        unwarranted, discriminatory, and excessive prosecution and punishment of U.S.
        military personnel who refused to serve in the Gulf, sought conscientious
        objector status or protested U.S. policies.
        Persons were killed, assaulted, tortured, illegally detained and prosecuted,
        harassed and humiliated as a result of these policies.
        The conduct violates the Charter of the United Nations, the Universal
        Declaration of Human Rights , the Hague and Geneva Conventions and the
        Constitution and laws of the United States.
        
        17. The United States, having destroyed Iraq's economic base, demands
        reparations which will permanently impoverish Iraq and threaten its people with
        famine and epidemic.
        Having destroyed lives, property and essential civilian facilities in Iraq
        which the U.S. concedes will require $50 billion to replace (estimated at $200
        billion by Iraq, killed at least 125,000 people by bombing and many thousands
        more by sickness and hunger, the U.S. now seeks to control Iraq economically
        even as its people face famine and epidemic.[l1] Damages, including casualties
        in Iraq, systematically inflicted by the U.S. exceed all damages, casualties
        and costs of all other parties to the conflict combined many times over.
        Reparations under these conditions are an exaction of tribute for the conqueror
        from a desperately needy country. The United States seeks to force Iraq to pay
        for damage to Kuwait largely caused by the U.S. and even to pay U.S. costs for
        its violations of Iraqi sovereignty in occupying northern Iraq to further
        manipulate the Kurdish population there. Such reparations are a neocolonial
        means of expropriating Iraq's oil, natural resources, and human labor.
        The conduct violates the Charter of the United Nations and the Constitution and
        laws of the United States.
        
        18. President Bush systematically manipulated, controlled, directed,
        misinformed and restricted press and media coverage to obtain constant support
        in the media for his military and political goals.
        The Bush Administration achieved a five-month-long commercial for militarism
        and individual weapons systems. The American people were seduced into the
        celebration of a slaughter by controlled propaganda demonizing Iraq, assuring
        the world no harm would come to Iraqi civilians, deliberately spreading false
        stories of atrocities including chemical warfare threats, deaths of incubator
        babies and threats to the entire region by a new Hitler.
        The press received virtually all its information from or by permission of the
        Pentagon. Efforts were made to prevent any adverse information or opposition
        views from being heard. CNN's limited presence in Baghdad was described as
        Iraqi propaganda. Indep
        
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        The press received virtually all its information from or by permission of the
        Pentagon. Efforts were made to prevent any adverse information or opposition
        views from being heard. CNN's limited presence in Baghdad was described as
        Iraqi propaganda. Independent observers, eyewitnesses' photos, and video tapes
        with information about the effects of the U.S. bombing were excluded from the
        media. Television network ownership, advertizers, newspaper ownership, elite
        columnists and commentators intimidated and instructed reporters and selected
        interviewees. They formed a near-single voice of praise for U.S. militarism,
        often exceeding the Pentagon in bellicosity.
        
        The American people and their democratic institutions were deprived of
        information essential to sound judgment and were regimented, despite profound
        concem, to support a major neocolonial intervention and war of aggression. The
        principal purpose of the First Amendment to the United States was to assure the
        press and the people the right to criticize their government with impunity.
        This purpose has been effectively destroyed in relation to U.S. military
        aggression since the press was denied access to assaults on Grenada, Libya,
        Panama and, now on a much greater scale, against Iraq.
        
        This conduct violates the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United
        States and is part of a pattern of conduct intended to create support for
        conduct constituting crimes against peace and war crimes.
        
        19. The United States has by force secured a permanent military presence in the
        Gulf, the control of its oil resources and geopolitical domination of the
        Arabian Peninsula and Gulf region.
        The U.S. has committed the acts described in this complaint to create a
        permanent U.S. military presence in the Persian Gulf, to dominate its oil
        resources until depleted and to maintain geopolitical domination over the
        region.
        The conduct violates the Charter of the United Nations, international law, and
        the Constitution and laws of the United States.
        
        Scope of the Inquiry
        The Commission of Inquiry will focus on U.S. criminal conduct because of its
        destruction of Iraq, killing at least 125,000 persons directly by its bombing
        while proclaiming its own combat losses as 148, because it destroyed the
        economic base of Iraq and because its acts are still inflicting consequential
        deaths that may reach hundreds of thousands. The Commission of Inquiry will
        seek and accept evidence of criminal acts by any person or government, related
        to the Gulf conflict, because it believes international law must be applied
        uniformly. It believes that "victors' justice" is not law, but the extension of
        war by force of the prevailing party. The U.S. Senate, European Community
        foreign ministers, and the western press, even former Nuremberg prosecutors,
        have overwhelmingly called for war crimes trials for Saddam Hussein and the
        Iraqi leadership alone. Even Mrs. Barbara Bush has said she would like to see
        Saddam Hussein hanged, albeit without mentioning a trial. Comprehensive efforts
        to gather and evaluate evidence, objectively judge all the conduct that
        constitutes crimes against peace and war crimes and to present these facts for
        judgment to the court of world opinion requires that at least one major effort
        focus on the United States. The Commission of Inquiry believes its focus on
        U.S. criminal acts is important, proper, and the only way to bring the whole
        truth, a balanced perspective and impartiality in application of legal process
        to this great human tragedy.
        Ramsey Clark
        May 9, 1991
        
        Final Judgement: International War Crimes Tribunal
        
        The Basis in International Law
        Testimony and Evidence
        International Law
        Notes
        Covert Operations: The Persian Gulf and the New World Order (Washington, DC:
        Christic Institute, 1991).
        Rhodri Jeffreys-Jones, The CIA and American Democracy (New Haven: Yale
        University Press, 1989), p. 206.
        Independent Commission of Inquiry on the U.S. Invasion of Panama, The U.S.
        Invasion of Panama: The Truth Behind Operation Just Cause(Boston: South End
        Press, 1990).
        Amnesty International Reports, 1991, pp. 122-124.
        Congressional Record, June 12, 1990, S8605.
        "Saddam's Oil Plot." London Observer, October 21, 1990.
        Rick Atkinson, "U.S. to Rely on Air Strikes if War Erupts," Washington Post,
        September 16, 1990: Al + . Eric Schmitt, "Ousted General Gets A Break," New
        York Times, November 7, 1991: Al9.
        Joint WHO / UNICEF Team Report: A Visit to Iraq (New York: United Nations,
        1991). A report to the Secretary General, dated March 20, 1991 by
        representatives of the U.N. Secretariat, UNICEF, UNDP, UNDRO, UNHCR, FAO and
        WHO.
        Patrick E. Tyler, "Powell Says U.S. Will Stay In Iraq," New York Times, March
        23, 1991: Al + .
        Patrick J. Sloyan, "Massive Battle After Cease Fire," New York Newsday, May 8,
        1991: A4+.
        "U.S. Prepares UN Draft on Claims Against Iraq," New York Times, November 1,
        1990.

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http://www.rabbani29.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/usamuderiniraq.htm
EXTREME BIRTH DEFORMITIES
"Unborn children of the region [are] being asked to pay the highest price, the
integrity of their DNA."

- Ross B. Mirkarimi, The Arms Control Research Centre, from his report: ‘The
Environmental and Human Health Impacts of the Gulf Region with Special
Reference to Iraq.’ May 1992

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I have recently received large numbers of photographs of horrendous birth
deformities that are being experienced in Iraq. I have not, quite frankly, ever
seen anything like them. I urge you to copy this page / these pictures and
circulate them as widely as possible.

In an act of stark cruelty, the US dominated Sanctions Committee refuses to
permit Iraq to import the clean-up equipment that they desperately need to
decontaminate their country of the Depleted Uranium ammunition that the US
fired at them. Approximately 315 tons of DU dust was left by the use of this
ammunition.The Sanctions Committee also refuses to allow the mass importation
of anti-cancer treatments, which contain trace amounts of radio-isotopes, on
the grounds that these constitute '...nuclear materials..'

The majority of the pictures were supplied to me by a source who prefers to
remain anonymous at the current time. I was unable to acquire either original
negatives, or prints from negatives. They arrived in the form of colour A4
copies. I scanned them into Photoshop and attempted to clean and sharpen them
as best I could. There has not, and I repeat not, been any digital alteration
other than the cleaning and sharpening process. No text documentation arrived
with the pictures, so I have described them as accurately as I can. It is my
understanding that the photographs were taken from 1998 onwards. I would be
grateful to anyone who could potentially supply me with further information
about these types of deformities; medical terms for them, etc.

Additional pictures were taken by Dr. Siegwart Horst-Gunther, President of the
International Yellow Cross. Most appeared in his 1996 book "URANIUM
PROJECTILES - SEVERELY MAIMED SOLDIERS, DEFORMED BABIES, DYING CHILDREN"
(Published by AHRIMAN - Verlag, ISBN: 3-89484-805-7). The book is a documentary
record of DU ammunition after-effects, and they were taken between 1993 and
1995. Dr. Gunther also supplied me with additional photographs from his
unpublished collection, some of which feature the birth deformities being
experienced by Western Gulf war veterans' children. I have asked Dr. Gunther's
permission for his pictures to be treated as 'Public Domain' and copyright
free. He has agreed and you may reproduce them as you see fit.

Both the Pentagon and the British Ministry of Defence officially deny that
there is any significant danger from exposure to DU ammunition. And whilst it
is conceivable that the US led attacks on Iraq's nuclear power stations could
be a contributory factor, most reseachers point to DU as the most likely source
of both deformities and cancers. The rising number of cases in Iraq,
particularly in the South where the greatest concentration of DU was fired, is
simply staggering. Iraqi physicians have never encountered anything like it,
and have made the perfectly reasonable point that similar increases in cancer
and deformities were experienced in Japan after the two US atomic bomb attacks.
Cancer has increased between 7 and 10 fold; deformities between 4 and 6 fold.

Yet the US was well aware of the potential effects on civilians and military
personnel of the chemical toxicity and radiological properties of DU ammunition
long before the Gulf war began, as the following excerpts of a US Army document
categorically state:

"Aerosol DU (Depleted Uranium) exposures to soldiers on the battlefield could
be significant with potential radiological and toxicological effects. [...]
Under combat conditions, the most exposed individuals are probably ground
troops that re-enter a battlefield following the exchange of armour-piercing
munitions. [...] We are simply highlighting the potential for levels of DU
exposure to military personnel during combat that would be unacceptable during
peacetime operations. [...DU is..]... a low level alpha radiation emitter which
is linked to cancer when exposures are internal, [and] chemical toxicity
causing kidney damage. [...] Short term effects of high doses can result in
death, while long term effects of low doses have been linked to cancer. [...]
Our conclusion regarding the health and environmental acceptability of DU
penetrators assume both controlled use and the presence of excellent health
physics management practices. Combat conditions will lead to the uncontrolled
release of DU. [...] The conditions of the battlefield, and the long term
health risks to natives and combat veterans may become issues in the
acceptability of the continued use of DU kinetic penetrators for military
applications."

- Excerpts from the July 1990 Science and Applications International
Corporation report: ' Kinetic Energy Penetrator Environment and Health
Considerations', as included in Appenix D - US Army Armaments, Munitions and
Chemical Command report: 'Kinetic Energy Penetrator Long Term Strategy Study,
July 1990'

The US was also well aware of the long-term dangers of DU contamination, and
played it down, as the following memo and document make clear:

"There has been and continues to be a concern regarding the impact of DU on the
environment. Therefore, if no-one makes a case for the effectiveness of DU on
the battlefield, DU rounds may become politically unacceptable and thus be
deleted from the arsenal. I believe we should keep this sensitive issue in mind
when action reports are written."

- Lt. Col. M.V. Ziehmn, Los Alamos National Laboratory memorandum, March 1st
1991

"Soldiers may be incidentally exposed to DU from dust and smoke on the
battlefield. The Army Surgeon General has determined that it is unlikely that
these soldiers will receive a significant internal DU exposure. Medical follow-
up is not warranted for soldiers who experience incidental exposure from dust
or smoke. [...] Since DU weapons are openly available on the world arms market,
DU weapons will be used in future conflicts. The number of DU patients on
future battlefields probably will be significantly higher because other
countries will use systems containing DU. [...] DU is a low-level radioactive
waste, and, therefore, must be disposed of in a licensed repository. [...] No
international law, treaty, regulation, or custom requires the United States to
remediate the Persian Gulf war battlefields."

- Report by the US Army Environmental Policy Institute: 'Health and
Consequences of Depleted Uranium use in the US army', June 1995

DU ammunition is now possessed by more than 12 countries, and was used during
the NATO led bombing of the former Yugoslavia. Western forces stationed in the
region have recently been advised not to drink the local water or eat locally
produced food. Yet the British MoD continues to deny any potential risks,
stating: "We have not seen any peer-reviewed epidemiological research data to
support these claims [that DU is dangerous.] [...] There are no plans to remove
DU-based ammunition from service." (Source: Two letters to me from Simon Wren,
Overseas Secretariat, Ministry of Defence, Whitehall, London - 20th May 1999,
and 22nd March 2000)

On a more personal level, I have heard stories of visitors to Iraq who spoke
with mid-wives there. These mid-wives are purported to have said they no longer
look forward to births as.... "We don't know what's going to come out."

The pictures below, which are extremely disturbing, show exactly what does.

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Another Victim USA using Depleted Uranium bombs
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Not long ago, the U.S administration and British government accused Iraq of
human rights violations in a yet another attempt to undermine Iraq and its
Leadership.

We say to human rights advocate: Look what their bombs have done to the
children of Iraq. Look how they use internationally banned weapons, including
Depleted Uranium ammunition, in their aggression against Iraq.

This young boy, Huthaifa Ghanim Mohammed Sultan, a resident of Mosul City, is
another victim of the U.S-British aggression against Iraq.

Let all fair-minded and honourable people the world over see and realize how
horrendous the crime they have committed against Iraq's children. It is not the
first such case, nor will it be the last for sure. There are hundreds and
hundreds of others.

Shame on all those who claim to be defender of what they call human rights in
Iraq.

In 1989, Iraq has been identified as having the best health system in the
region, with the Government of Iraq drawing up a set of health programmes to
render better services for its people. This was confirmed by report released at
the time by United Nations organizations.

Today, the children of Iraq are experiencing enormous sufferings augmented by
the lack of medicine, especially vaccines, under the embargo.

Let the whole world see how far the criminals in the U.S administration and
British government have gone in their crime. They have turned Iraq's children
into target of their DU weapons.

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Octorber, 2001
www.jca.apc.org/DUCJ/seimei9-11e.html
We Protest against the War waged by the US and Oppose Japan's Participation in
the War.
by Depleted Uranium Center/ JAPAN(DUCJ)

On October 8, 2001, the US Forces started bombing Afghanistan. The pretext is
in revenge of the September 11 incidents in the US (so-called simultaneous
terrorist attacks) to destroy the suspected criminals, Osama bin Laden and
Alcaida by using overwhelming military forces. In Afghanistan, on the other
hand, a million refugees are suffering from hunger due to the economic
sanctions having continued for a long time. The Office of the United Nations
High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) estimates that, with food supply route
cut off due to the war, the survival of 6,500,000 will be in danger this winter.
The US policy of making millions of people suffer on the verge of making
millions of people suffer on the verge of death in the name of international
defense against terrorism is nothing but a large scale terrorism carried out by
a state.

In Iraq, since the Gulf War, 1,500,000 people have been killed by the economic
sanctions that have continued for 10 years. Due to depleted Uranium bombs,
leukemia is very prevalent among children; many of them are dying with little
medication available.

With the bombing started in Afghanistan, quite a few citizens have already been
victimized. According to the US, they only attack military targets and Afghani
citizens are not the enemies, but the reality is different. An NGO office for
removing landmines was bombed, resulting in the casualty among its staff; some
of good-will goods from the US land at land-mined areas, creating another
dangerous situation.
Furthermore, our anxiety heightens to hear that the US Forces have started to
attack Taliban troops including tank corps near the Pakistani border.

What has been repeatedly used by the US Army or US Allies is depleted uranium
bombs. Of depleted uranium bombs, with uranium 238 as its main constituent, 310
tons were estimated to be used in the Gulf War and 11 tons in Bosnia
Heltzgobina and Kosobo, causing serious damage on health and environment, and
producing great many victims among the inhabitants and the soldiers of the
allied forces.

Depleted Uranium bombs are the US Forces' standard weaponry, and often used for
attacking tanks and underground facilities. In the Gulf War, they were used by
ground troops to attack Iraqi tanks. The bombs were effective weapons to
protect the allied forces from attacks, because they were able to destroy tanks
before the bullets from the tanks reached them. In Kosobo they were mainly used
for air strikes. Many were used as highly efficient weapons, as seen in a 30 mm
machine gun bullet that destroyed a tank. In both cases, a destroyed tank
flamed up immediately, and with the inside heat culminated in 3000 degrees
centigrade it was burnt up completely. At this occasion, about 70 % of the
depleted uranium used is supposed to have spread in particles. The depleted
uranium dusts spread not only in the bombed area, but as far as the areas
dozens of kilometers away. Its unexploded shells left untouched at these areas
have also caused serious radioactive damage to the people there even after the
war. From the chemical and radioacive points of view, uranium itself is a very
dangerous toxicant, but without being warned of the fact, some of the
inhabitants tried to earn bread by collecting scraps from the polluted tank
remnants and became exposed to the radioactive stream. Children play with
unexploded shells; some take one home as a memento. These also result in great
many people suffering from the exposure.

In Afghanistan, depleted uranium bombs must have been used for the repeated air
raid, and when the ground battle starts, they must be used by the ground forces.

At the United Nation Subcommittee for Human Rights, the resolution was adapted
to prohibit the use of depleted uranium bombs as inhuman weaponry as well as
nuclear weapons, cluster bombs, and vaporizing bombs. The US Forces have
already used cluster bombs for its military operation. They even takes a
position that the use of nuclear weapons may not be excluded.

Which justice will be done through the use of depleted uranium bombs and
nuclear weapons? Such justice must have been terminated by the end of the 20th
century, the century of war and death. Japan, which promises wholehearted
support (Prime Minister Koizumi) to the U. S., the user of depleted uranium
bombs, is an accomplice of the user of the inhuman weaponry. Japan, which
experienced the misery of nuclear bombs and should firmly oppose whatever
actions that serves to intensify nuclear damage, is going to join the US. in
its nuclear offense.

Japan is preparing to revise laws in order to enable the transport of
ammunition, thus supporting the US Forces. When the transport of ammunition
becomes possible, the transport of depleted uranium bombs by Japan may also be
realized. Therefore, Japan's participation in the warfare is nothing but an act
of accomplice.

We request;

The U. S. Forces make it clear whether or not depleted uranium bombs be used.

From now on the U. S. Forces never use depleted uranium bombs.

The U. S. immediately stop its military invasion, and have all the troops
retreated.

The U. S. restore the original condition of the areas polluted by the use of
depleted uranium bombs.

The U. S. totally compensate for the damage to the environment and people
caused by the use of depleted uranium bombs.

Any nation shall not manufacture, make provision for, or use depleted uranium
bombs.

All the nations shall draw as soon as possible an international agreement to
ban depleted uranium bombs.

When the use of depleted uranium bombs is suspected, all nations shall censure
for the act.

All nations shall declare that a dispute settlement not be made by military
actions.

Finally, we request the government of Japan never join warfare.

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DEPLETED URANIUM IN BUNKER BOMBS
America's big dirty secret
http://mondediplo.com/2002/03/03uranium
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The United States loudly and proudly boasted this month of its new bomb
currently being used against al-Qaida hold-outs in Afghanistan; it sucks the
air from underground installations, suffocating those within. The US has also
admitted that it has used depleted uranium weaponry over the last decade
against bunkers in Iraq, Kosovo, and now Afghanistan.
by ROBERT JAMES PARSONS *
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"The immediate concern for medical professionals and employees of aid
organisations remains the threat of extensive depleted uranium (DU)
contamination in Afghanistan." This is one of the conclusions of a 130-page
report, Mystery Metal Nightmare in Afghanistan? (1), by Dai Williams, an
independent researcher and occupational psychologist. It is the result of more
than a year of research into DU and its effects on those exposed to it.

Using internet sites of both NGOs (2) and arms manufacturers, Williams has come
up with information that he has cross-checked and compared with weapons that
the Pentagon has reported - indeed boasted about - using during the war. What
emerges is a startling and frightening vision of war, both in Afghanistan and
in the future.

Since 1997 the United States has been modifying and upgrading its missiles and
guided (smart) bombs. Prototypes of these bombs were tested in the Kosovo
mountains in 1999, but a far greater range has been tested in Afghanistan. The
upgrade involves replacing a conventional warhead by a heavy, dense metal one
(3). Calculating the volume and the weight of this mystery metal leads to two
possible conclusions: it is either tungsten or depleted uranium.

Tungsten poses problems. Its melting point (3,422°C) makes it very hard to
work; it is expensive; it is produced mostly by China; and it does not burn. DU
is pyrophoric, burning on impact or if it is ignited, with a melting point of
1,132°C; it is much easier to process; and as nuclear waste, it is available
free to arms manufacturers. Further, using it in a range of weapons
significantly reduces the US nuclear waste storage problem.

This type of weapon can penetrate many metres of reinforced concrete or rock in
seconds. It is equipped with a detonator controlled by a computer that measures
the density of the material passed through and, when the warhead reaches the
targeted void or a set depth, detonates the warhead, which then has an
explosive and incendiary effect. The DU burns fiercely and rapidly, carbonising
everything in the void, while the DU itself is transformed into a fine uranium
oxide powder. Although only 30% of the DU of a 30mm penetrator round is
oxidised, the DU charge of a missile oxidises 100%. Most of the dust particles
produced measure less than 1.5 microns, small enough to be breathed in.

For a few researchers in this area, the controversy over the use of DU weapons
during the Kosovo war got side-tracked. Instead of asking what weapons might
have been used against most of the targets (underground mountain bunkers)
acknowledged by Nato, discussion focused on 30mm anti-tank penetrator rounds,
which Nato had admitted using but which would have been ineffective against
superhardened underground installations.

However, as long as the questions focused on such anti-tank penetrators, they
dealt with rounds whose maximum weight was five kilos for a 120mm round. The DU
explosive charges in the guided bomb systems used in Afghanistan can weigh as
much as one and a half metric tons (as in Raytheon's Bunker Buster - GBU-28)
(4).
Who cares?

In Geneva, where most of the aid agencies active in Afghanistan are based,
Williams's report has caused varied reactions. The United Nations Office of the
High Commissioner for Refugees and the Office for the Co-ordination of
Humanitarian Affairs have circulated it. But it does not seem to have worried
agency and programme directors much. Only Médecins sans Frontiéres and the UN
Environment Programme (UNEP) say they fear an environmental and health
catastrophe.

In March and April 2001, UNEP and the World Health Organisation (WHO) published
reports on DU, reports that are frequently cited by those claiming DU is
innocuous. The Pentagon emphasises that the organisations are independent and
neutral. But the UNEP study is, at best, compromised. The WHO study is
unreliable.

The Kosovo assessment mission that provided the basis for the UNEP analysis was
organised using maps supplied by Nato; Nato troops accompanied the researchers
to protect them from unexploded munitions, including cluster bomb sub-
munitions. These sub-munitions, as Williams discovered, were probably equipped
with DU shaped-charges. Nato troops prevented researchers from any contact with
DU sub-munitions, even from discovering their existence.

During the 16 months before the UNEP mission, the Pentagon sent at least 10
study teams into the field and did major clean-up operations (5). Out of 8,112
anti-tank penetrator rounds fired on the sites studied, the UNEP team recovered
only 11, although many more would not have been burned. And, 18 to 20 months
after the firing, the amount of dust found directly on sites hit by these
rounds was particularly small.

The WHO undertook no proper epidemiological study, only an academic desk study.
Under pressure from the International Atomic Energy Agency, the WHO confined
itself to studying DU as a heavy-metal, chemical contaminant. In January 2001,
alerted to the imminent publication by Le Monde diplomatique of an article
attacking its inaction (6), the WHO held a press conference and announced a $2m
fund - eventually $20m - for research into DU. According Dr Michael Repacholi
of the WHO, the report on DU, under way since 1999 and supervised by the
British geologist Barry Smith, would be expanded to include radiation
contamination. The work would include analyses of urine of people exposed to
DU, conducted to determine the exposure level.

But the monograph, published 10 weeks later, was merely a survey of existing
literature on the subject. Out of hundreds of thousands of monographs published
since 1945, which ought to have been explored in depth, the report covered only
monographs on chemical contamination, with a few noteworthy exceptions. The few
articles about dealing with radiation contamination that had been consulted
came from the Pentagon and the Rand Corporation, the Pentagon think- tank. It
is unsurprising that the report was bland.

The recommendations of the two reports were common sense, and repeated advice
already given by the WHO and echoed regularly by the aid organisations working
in Kosovo. This included marking off known target sites, collecting penetrator
rounds wherever possible, keeping children away from contaminated sites, and
the suggested monitoring of some wells later on.
Uranium plus

The problem can be summed up as two key findings:

o Radiation emitted by DU threatens the human body because, once DU dust has
been inhaled, it becomes an internal radiation source; international radiation
protection standards, the basis of expert claims that DU is harmless, deal only
with external radiation sources;

o Dirty DU - the UNEP report, for all its failings, deserves credit for
mentioning this. Uranium from reactors, recycled for use in munitions, contains
additional highly toxic elements, such as plutonium, 1.6 kilogrammes of which
could kill 8bn people. Rather than depleted uranium, it should be called
uranium plus.

In a French TV documentary on Canal+ in January 2001 (7), a team of researchers
presented the results

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In a French TV documentary on Canal+ in January 2001 (7), a team of researchers
presented the results of an investigation into a gaseous diffusion - recycling -
plant in Paducah, Kentucky, US. According to the lawyer for 100,000
plaintiffs, who are past and present plant employees, they were contaminated
because of flagrant non-compliance with basic safety standards; the entire
plant is irrevocably contaminated, as is everything it produces. The
documentary claimed that the DU in the missiles that were dropped on
Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq is likely to be a product of this plant.

These weapons represent more than just a new approach to warfare. The US
rearmament programme launched during Ronald Reagan's presidency was based on
the premise that the victor in future conflicts would be the side that
destroyed the enemy's command and communications centres. Such centres are
increasingly located in superhardened bunkers deep underground.

Hitting such sites with nuclear weapons would do the job well, but also produce
radiation that even the Pentagon would have to acknowledge as fearsome, not to
mention the bad public relations arising from mushroom-shaped clouds in a world
aware of the dangers of nuclear war. DU warheads seem clean: they produce a
fire modest in comparison with a nuclear detonation, though the incendiary
effect can be just as destructive.

The information that Williams has gathered (8) shows that after computer
modelling in 1987, the US conducted the first real operational tests against
Baghdad in 1991. The war in Kosovo provided further opportunity to test, on
impressively hard targets, DU weapon prototypes as well as weapons already in
production. Afghan-istan has seen an extension and amplification of such tests.
But at the Pentagon there is little transparency about this.

Williams cites several press articles (9) in December 2001 mentioning NBC
(nuclear-biological-chemical) teams in the field checking for possible
contamination. Such contamination, according to the US government, would be
attributed to the Taliban. But, last October, Afghan doctors, citing rapid
deaths from internal ailments, were accusing the coalition of using chemical
and radioactive weapons. The symptoms they reported (haemorrhaging, pulmonary
constriction and vomiting) could have resulted from radiation contamination.

On 5 December, when a friendly-fire bomb hit coalition soldiers, media
representatives were all immediately removed from the scene and locked up in a
hangar. According to the Pentagon, the bomb was a GBU-31, carrying a BLU-109
warhead. The Canal+ documentary shows an arms manufacturer's sales
representative at an international fair in Dubai in 1999, just after the Kosovo
war. He is presenting a BLU-109 warhead and describing its penetration
capabilities against superhardened underground targets, explaining that this
model had been tested in a recent war.

Donald Rumsfeld, US Secretary of Defence, on 16 January this year admitted that
the US had found radiation in Afghanistan (10). But this, he reassured, was
merely from DU warheads (supposedly belonging to al-Qaida); he did not explain
how al-Qaida could have launched them without planes. Williams points out that,
even if the coalition has used no DU weapons, those attributed to al-Qaida
might turn out to be an even greater source of contamination, especially if
they came from Russia, in which case the DU could be even dirtier than that
from Paducah.

Following its assessment mission in the Balkans, UNEP set up a post-conflict
assessment unit. Its director, Henrik Slotte, has announced that it is ready to
work in Afghanistan as soon as possible, given proper security, unimpeded
access to hit sites, and financing. The WHO remains silent. When questions
about the current state of the DU research fund were addressed to Jon Lidon,
spokesman for the director general, Dr Gro Harlem Brundtland, the WHO did not
answer. Yet Williams urges that studies begin immediately, as victims of severe
UD exposure may soon all be dead, yet with their deaths attributed to the
rigours of winter.

In Jefferson County, Indiana, the Pentagon has closed the 200-acre (80-hectare)
proving ground where it used to test-fire DU rounds. The lowest estimate for
cleaning up the site comes to $7.8bn, not including permanent storage of the
earth to a depth of six metres and of all the vegetation. Considering the cost
too high, the military finally decided to give the tract to the National Park
Service for a nature preserve - an offer that was promptly refused. Now there
is talk of turning it into a National Sacrifice Zone and closing it forever.
This gives an idea of the fate awaiting those regions of the planet where the
US has used and will use depleted uranium.

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* Journalist, Geneva

(1) See website

(2) The internet sites of Jane's Defense Information, the Federation of
American Scientists, the Centre of Defense Information.

(3) See FAS Website

(4) FAS and USA Today

(5) Chronology of environmental sampling in the Balkans

(6) See Deafening silence on depleted uranium, Le Monde diplomatique English
edition, February 2001.

(7) La Guerre radioactive secrète, by Martin Meissonnier, Roger Trilling,
Guillaume d'Allessandro and Luc Hermann, first broadcast in February 2000;
updated and rebroadcast in January 2001 under the title L'Uranium appauvri,
nous avons retrouvé l'usine contaminée by Roger Trilling and Luc Hermann.

(8) The Use of Modeling and Simulation in the Planning of Attacks on Iraqi
Chemical and Biological Warfare Targets

(9) For example "New Evidence is Adding to US Fears of Al-Qaida Dirty Bomb",
International Herald Tribune, December 5, 2001; "Uranium Reportedly Found in
Tunnel Complex", USA Today, December 24, 2001.

(10) "US Says More Weapons Sites Found in Afghanistan", Reuters, January 16,
2002.

Translated by the author

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