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    • Gość: A.D. Troche to inaczej... IP: *.mco.bellsouth.net 04.08.03, 20:07
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      >> sie tlumaczy. "The sheep turn on Wolfie" - bo taki jest oryginalny tytul
      tego reportazu, sugeruje juz z samego ujecia, ze to owce(a) odwrocila sie
      przeciwko 'Wolfie'. Istotnie, artykol mowi o tym ze na przsluchaniu przez
      komisje w Senacie, senatorzy, raz juz 'wzieci w lewo' przez zyda, o nazwisku
      Wolfovitz, ktory jest glownym instygatorem napadu na bezbronny Irak, wzieli
      sie za niego nieco ostrzej, jak to bylo poprzednio ( dla publicznego picu,
      podejrzewam, bo Senat, jak i Kongres, jest tylko zydowska maszynka do
      glosowania...). Zblizaja sie wybory, wiec ci, ktorzy siedza sobie na
      wygodnych, politycznych stolkach, usiluja nadal oglupiac amerykanskiego,
      zlupionego i calkowicie oglupionego wyborce dla starego dowcipu, ktory ma
      wykazac jak bardzo patriotycznymi sa ci zdrajcy i sprzedawczyki, ktorzy w
      historii Swiata rownych swoim zbrodniom nie maja...

      >> P.S. Wez pod uwage nastepujace: 'the sheep turn into Wolfie", i 'the sheep
      turn on Wolfie'. Pomylic latwo, ale z czasem, no i oczytaniem sie - to sie
      wygladzi... Besides, he is not much of a wolf, as indeed, he is only a lousy
      rat!


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          By Andrew Buncombe in Washington and Raymond Whitaker in London
          03 August 2003


          The British and US governments are drawing up a controversial new strategy to
          convince the public that Saddam was developing weapons of mass destruction - an
          admission that they have so far failed to make a convincing case.

          The "big impact" plan is designed to overwhelm and silence critics who have
          sought to put pressure on Tony Blair and George Bush. At the same time both men
          are working to lower the burden of proof - from finding weapons to finding
          evidence that there were programmes to develop them, even if they lay dormant
          since the 1980s.

          In press conferences on either side of the Atlantic on Wednesday, the Prime
          Minister and the President both conceded that to maintain trust, they would
          have to prove their pre-war claims on WMD. "In order to placate the critics and
          cynics about intentions of the United States, we need to produce evidence," Mr
          Bush said. "And I fully understand that. And I'm confident that our search will
          yield that which I strongly believe: that Saddam had a weapons programme."

          Mr Blair said that "people need to know that what we did in Iraq was right and
          justified. That's a case we have to not just assert, but prove over time, both
          in relation to weapons of mass destruction and in relation to the improvement
          of Iraq. I think a lot of people will make up their minds on the basis of the
          evidence."

          But the Prime Minister gave a clear signal of the strategy by adding: "There
          has always been something bizarre about the notion that Saddam never had any
          weapons of mass destruction." His critics say that is beside the point: the
          question is whether the US and Britain can prove their claims that he still had
          them in sufficient quantities to pose an imminent threat to the world.

          Officials say that WMD information is being collected and collated to create
          a "big impact". Both Downing Street and the White House are said to have learnt
          tough lessons from the experience of February's "dodgy dossier" on Iraq and the
          false claims about Iraqi efforts to buy uranium from Africa.

          "Instead of just putting out pieces of a jigsaw and expecting people to see the
          picture, they are waiting until they have more pieces," said one official
          involved in the project. "They want to get it right." The authorities had
          learnt not to put out piecemeal information without proper verification, he
          added.

          A presentation could be made as soon as September, with the aim of providing a
          boost to Mr Blair ahead of the Labour Party conference at the end of the month,
          and to Mr Bush as the presidential campaign gathers steam. Officials speak
          confidently of the hard evidence they claim has been gathered in Iraq since
          Saddam was ousted three months ago.

          The Bush administration has brought in a former UN weapons inspector, David
          Kay, as civilian chief of the Iraq Survey Group, the military- intelligence
          unit that is heading the hunt for WMD. Last week, having given evidence to
          closed-door sessions of the US Senate's armed services and intelligence
          committees, Mr Kay outlined the strategy. "We do not intend to expose this
          evidence until we have full confidence that it is solid proof," he said. "The
          American people should not be surprised by surprises. We are determined to take
          this apart and every day we're surprised by new advances that we're making."

          It is not clear how the evidence would be unveiled, though some have suggested
          it could be similar in scope to the presentation the Secretary of State, Colin
          Powell, made to the UN Security Council last February. Parts of that seemingly
          convincing exercise were later found to have relied on highly questionable
          evidence, however, and one official predicted the new presentation would be
          a "sober assessment".

          Mr Kay told the committees that progress of the survey group had been slow,
          despite claims by the administration before the war that it had intelligence
          that would lead them to weapons sites. Interrogations of the regime's top
          scientists have not led to dramatic discoveries, although he claimed they were
          giving valuable information.

          "It's going to take time," Mr Kay said after one hearing. "The Iraqis had over
          two decades to develop these weapons. And hiding them was an essential part of
          their programme. We're not close to a conclusion yet."

          John Rockefeller, the senior Democrat on the intelligence committee, said: "I
          remain cautious about whether we're going to find actual WMD. Not just a
          programme, but the very extensive weapons - ready for attack - that we all were
          told existed."

          Scott Ritter, the former chief UN weapons inspector and an outspoken critic of
          the Bush administration's WMD claims, said Mr Kay had nothing of substance to
          tell the committees. "His job is not to tell the truth - it's to provide
          political cover for the President. He was brought back from Iraq not because he
          has anything relevant to say, but because the President needs to buy time.
          There is nothing of substance in anything he has said."
          4 August 2003 14:37






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